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RE: [zenhorsemanship] RE: Ups and Downs. . mostly downs

Laurel,
Guess what I was doing with her..... I had her trotting round me at liberty, I was feeling like Klaus Hempfling and Alexander Nevzorov all rolled into one, Jedda was feeling something else quite different!. Up the energy and you up the emotion, especially if it's an activity they could see as pointless and disrespectful.  This was 18 months ago.
This totally has me laughing.   What in the world was I thinking????  Yup, I could see Grace and I dancing in the moonlight. . . .  Tells you how much I can *read* her. 
 
Thankfully, Grace didn't hurt me this time and hasn't in the past, but she sure can get awfully doggone close!!!!  YIKES!!!  Safety is always my concern. . . I dunno, she hasn't done that sort of stuff in over a year.  
Thank you again, Laurel, for being there for us.  Good Golly, this is a tough business emotionally.  I don't have much of an ego left after Grace has basically torn it to shreds and stomped on it. 
Yesterday I thought "Oh, I'll try and run about like Imke Spilker does", guess what again, Jedda was not impressed, it wasn't "play" for her, why did I think she could handle it? she doesn't know how to play even with the other horses, so she went right on the defensive. Not kicking or anything, just the expression on her face was enough!
You really make me laugh. . .I wanna run about like Imke Spilker too and Alexander Nevzorov. . . maybe if I ever get the urge again, I'll go play with Katie.  She loves to dance. . . I just always feel like Grace doesn't get to do the good stuff with me and it makes me very sad.  
 
But, we're working on it and we'll get there and it's all in the journey.. . sigh. . . .
With much love,
Julie & Grace
 


Mon Jul 6, 2009 10:56 pm

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Hi all, We had our 14th Cat session with Jedda yesterday, it was slightly less than satisfying as she went back to pinned ears and nose stuck out when Kate got...
Laurel Gordon
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Jun 29, 2009
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Hi Laura, Just like in clicker training, we can get extinction bursts in CAT. I would say that no, you did not need to increase the distance. What you need to...
Dolores Arste
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Jun 30, 2009
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We had our 14th Cat session with Jedda yesterday, it was slightly less than satisfying as she went back to pinned ears and nose stuck out when Kate got closer...
Julie Lannen
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Jun 30, 2009
7:03 pm

Hi Dolores, Thanks for that considered reply, I spent a lot of yesterday "thinking" about how to look at our 14th session in strictly CAT terms, and the ...
Laurel Gordon
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Jun 30, 2009
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Laurel, Whoa girl :) ""Don't click the hand touch" when during the CAT process she comes to touch me, but then you are saying I can now offer my hand to her as...
Dolores Arste
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Jun 30, 2009
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Hi Julie, ... days or a grumpy mood etc- it does not matter the reason but the fact that she is giving the actions then you take care of them ala CAT (even...
Laurel Gordon
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Jun 30, 2009
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Hi Laurel, It hurts us to the core when our fragile flowers turn their rumps on us!!! Particularly when we think we've got the keys to the kingdom!! You've...
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Jul 6, 2009
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I'd like to rephrase a portion of my e-mail: "came after me rearing and striking" I'm not quite sure what was happening, because my back was turned, but out...
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Jul 6, 2009
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Julie!! Keep yourself safe!! As one who has experienced all the downs as well as the soaring ups these girls send our way, I too have sat and cried, I must ...
Laurel Gordon
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Jul 6, 2009
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Laurel, Guess what I was doing with her..... I had her trotting round me at liberty, I was feeling like Klaus Hempfling and Alexander Nevzorov all rolled into...
Conway, Julie E
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Jul 6, 2009
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I know it's hard. But, try to remember that C/T is pressure too. The pressure to succeed sometimes that the horse puts on itself until the steam vent blows. ...
Dolores Arste
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Hi Dolores, "In retrospect which is usually where we find the 20/20, do you thing she had begun to bottle up at the point of headlowering? That's a yes on...
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... Two things stand out. One she did not offer head lowering during CAT and second that she threw her head down. It's almost a panic response. I'll put human...
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