I think that sounds like a good idea... It would probabley work out well
because it wouldn't take up any more time and if it did, not much.  The
only reason it would take up more time is if more people entered since
it was split... but I think that sounds good.. definitley only at
International and Classics though.  *Heidi*








--- In youthpoa@yahoogroups.com, "Shane" <oatiepoa@...> wrote:
>
> An excerpt from the notes of the 2006 International YAB Meeting:
>
> "We discussed having an 8&U or 12&U Costume class for the larger shows
> since some younger kids have a hard time competing with older kids
when
> presenting stories. This could pertain only to the International and
> Classics, where Costume classes are larger and more competitive."
>
> What do you guys think about this issue? Should the national POAC
offer
> more breakdown of costume classes at the International and perhaps the
> Classics? Currently they are divided into 6&U and 18&U divisions, and
> by gender. The only option, going by regulations on acceptable class
> age divisions- would be to have a 12&U and 13-18 class for each
gender,
> or a class for each age group.
>
> Opinions?
>

That sounds good to me... *Heidi*




--- In youthpoa@yahoogroups.com, "Shane" <oatiepoa@...> wrote:
>
> Here is my rough draft for the 8&U W/T class proposal that we
> discussed at the International. I'm asking everyone to look over it
> and tell me what they think about both the concept of the class and
> the wording of the proposal. I will submit this and the Team
> Competition Proposal (posted on this forum somewhere already) to the
> BoD agenda for the meeting in October, and I will hopefully send them
> in by the end of this month.
>
> Shane
>
> -----------
>
> Proposal for Nationally Pointed 8&U Walk/Trot Pleasure Class
>
> Submitted by the Youth Advisory Board to the Board of Directors,
> October 2006
>
> There has been a lot of talk recently about an 8&U Walk/Trot Pleasure
> Class. The Youth Advisory Board discussed this issue at the
> International meeting and came up with the following plan.
>
> A new nationally pointed class would be created, called 8&U Walk/Trot
> Pleasure, for both English and Western divisions. Conditions would be
> placed on these classes such that any one exhibitor would not be
> allowed to participate in both the traditional 3-gait 8&U Pleasure
> and the new W/T Pleasure during the same show. However, it would be
> possible for an exhibitor to show 3-gait Western Pleasure and
> Walk/Trot English or vice-versa.
>
> This class would benefit novice and young riders by providing an
> additional pointed class for them to gain show experience before they
> are ready to begin loping.
>
> Concerns were raised in the course of the discussion that an 8&U
> child could technically graduate to 9-12 without any experience with
> loping in the show arena. To ease these concerns, the following
> options could were considered and are presented as alternatives or
> supplements to this proposal:
>
> 1) A warning or notice that 8&U riders should have experience
> with loping in the show arena by the time they age out of 8&U
> inserted in the rule book with the rule for this class.
> 2) Instead of a nationally pointed 8&U class, a state-points
> only (not submitted to national office) 7&U Walk/Trot Pleasure class
> meeting the same specifications as the 8&U class described in this
> proposal could be defined in the rule book as an option for
> individual state clubs to add to their show programs.
>

Here is my rough draft for the 8&U W/T class proposal that we
discussed at the International. I'm asking everyone to look over it
and tell me what they think about both the concept of the class and
the wording of the proposal. I will submit this and the Team
Competition Proposal (posted on this forum somewhere already) to the
BoD agenda for the meeting in October, and I will hopefully send them
in by the end of this month.

Shane

-----------

Proposal for Nationally Pointed 8&U Walk/Trot Pleasure Class

Submitted by the Youth Advisory Board to the Board of Directors,
October 2006

There has been a lot of talk recently about an 8&U Walk/Trot Pleasure
Class. The Youth Advisory Board discussed this issue at the
International meeting and came up with the following plan.

A new nationally pointed class would be created, called 8&U Walk/Trot
Pleasure, for both English and Western divisions. Conditions would be
placed on these classes such that any one exhibitor would not be
allowed to participate in both the traditional 3-gait 8&U Pleasure
and the new W/T Pleasure during the same show. However, it would be
possible for an exhibitor to show 3-gait Western Pleasure and
Walk/Trot English or vice-versa.

This class would benefit novice and young riders by providing an
additional pointed class for them to gain show experience before they
are ready to begin loping.

Concerns were raised in the course of the discussion that an 8&U
child could technically graduate to 9-12 without any experience with
loping in the show arena. To ease these concerns, the following
options could were considered and are presented as alternatives or
supplements to this proposal:

1) A warning or notice that 8&U riders should have experience
with loping in the show arena by the time they age out of 8&U
inserted in the rule book with the rule for this class.
2) Instead of a nationally pointed 8&U class, a state-points
only (not submitted to national office) 7&U Walk/Trot Pleasure class
meeting the same specifications as the 8&U class described in this
proposal could be defined in the rule book as an option for
individual state clubs to add to their show programs.

An excerpt from the notes of the 2006 International YAB Meeting:

"We discussed having an 8&U or 12&U Costume class for the larger shows
since some younger kids have a hard time competing with older kids when
presenting stories. This could pertain only to the International and
Classics, where Costume classes are larger and more competitive."

What do you guys think about this issue? Should the national POAC offer
more breakdown of costume classes at the International and perhaps the
Classics? Currently they are divided into 6&U and 18&U divisions, and
by gender. The only option, going by regulations on acceptable class
age divisions- would be to have a 12&U and 13-18 class for each gender,
or a class for each age group.

Opinions?

At the International youth meeting, Midwest Region director Joel
Farrington suggested an Art Contest for the International show. The
idea was well-received, and we decided to go ahead and try it. The
contest would be open to ALL youth attending the show, including
siblings of exhibitors who don't show themselves. There would be no
entry fee, and all types of art from photography to coloring to
sketching or even sculpture would be accepted. The winner in each of
two age divisions (8&U and 9-18) would get a prize.

The contest was not announced at the show (I was afraid of bothering
the announcer!) but we posted the information and rules at the Youth
Booth. No entries were received.

Next year, we'll be better prepared for the event, with a notice in
the magazine's International section and announcements periodically
throughout the week, plus signage at our YouthBooth. I'd like to see
this become an International tradition- and a way for non-showing
kids to participate in something, too.

One thing that we didn't really discuss specifically- how should this
contest be judged? Any ideas?

Sounds like fun... I can't wait until I can leave school early!

lol... Yes, it would help if there was more discussion on here... go
ahead and post anything new stuff anyway, and I'll start getting on here
more.

*Heidi*

Hey there hasn't been much discussion on here... so I thought I'd post
something... lol.

So how has school been going for everyone?? Hopefully well... this is my
first year in high school and I love it!  We have homecoming up in a
less than two weeks too..... and I can't wait for the ridiculous "I need
a date" drama to be over! AGH!  I'm not playing any sports but my sister
is on the volleyball team and my brother is playing football.

I haven't done any riding either... I think I'm going to in the next
half hour or so though lol.   Is anyone going to the sale?? We aren't
but I kind of want to just to see everyone... but oh well.   Well gotta
go ride... *Heidi*

Hey everyone... sorry I haven't been on in awhile-- our internet has
been down.  I was looking over some of the most recent messages and
since there hasn't been much discussion, I thought I'd comment on the
main issues that Shane has brought up.

The Team Contest sounds like a lot of fun and it sounds like a really
good idea!  Is that what they used to have at the World Show or
something?

Equitation classes: Do you mean rail-work only for like state,
regional/classic shows?  Because I thought that was how International
was but I could be wrong.  It might not be neccesary at state level
(because Ohio shows are small enough that it wouldn't save a lot of
time) but I think that at the Classics and Regionals it would be
nice.  I think they only had rail-work for the finalists at the
Eastern Classic-- at least in some classes.  But at bigger shows it
would probabley save some time.

Adding days to International: I was wondering when we'd have to
lengthen the International because I've heard that it went pretty
late in 2005 (haven't heard anything about this year) and if POA is
growing then I'm guessing it will eventually be neccesary.  I don't
really want it to, since you're already away from home for so long
though.

Well I guess that's about it.... talk to everyone later! *Heidi*




--- In youthpoa@yahoogroups.com, oatiepoa@... wrote:
>
> This is what I have so far to talk about at the International. Add
things  if
> you can think of anything else we should talk about.
>
> ----------
>
> Agenda for International 2006 Youth Advisory Board Meeting
>
> I. Convention meeting review, bylaws
>
> II. Nominations and elections explanation
>
> III. Team Contest Proposal- refine and prepare for submission to
national
> board
>
> IV. Sponsorships
>
> V. Should equitation classes be patterns-only? Rail work for  tie-
breaking?
>
> VI. Adding days to International?
>
> VII. Walk/Trot Pleasure Classes
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Shane

To: youthpoa@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:17 PM

Subject: [youthpoa] Southeast Regional

Had a great time at the SE regional. My mom and grandma were unable to
go, so my pony Nick and I hitched a ride with the Schoppas. I lived in
the Dykstra's nice bus, enjoying healthy meals and satellite TV every
night. Since I was unable to show Nick (he was sore), I shared the pony
that I rode last year, Avitars Peppy Perfection, with Ashton Boettcher.
So it turned out that the only thing I used that was actually mine all
weekend was the tack and show clothes. I was a real bum.

The regional was fun though, saw lots of friends and scored some sweet
Brooks and Dunn prizes. I won Hi-pt boys equitation (only 13-18 boy who
competed in equitation classes), so I got a little cooler/radio.

The Oklahoma kids did really well at the show- Both 8&U high points
were Okies (Alaina Mckenzie and Allison Bizone), Parris Schoppa won the
High Point Multiple Pony with Tippy and Jaxon as well as Hi Point
Equitation 13-18 Girls, and I got Res 13-18 boy and Hi pt Eq 13-18 boy
(again, just cuz I was the only boy!).

shane

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From: Shane

To: youthpoa@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 12:56 PM

Subject: [youthpoa] Cool Method for Club News

Sometimes the Club News in the Magazine is designated as one person's
job for the whole year. Sometimes that's great- some of the newswriters
are really good at collecting all of the news and reporting it every
single month. But a lot of the time it's hard for one person to find
news every single month to write about.

This year in Oklahoma, our president Doug Schoppa had the great idea to
make a signup sheet to pass around at our banquet- there we filled it
out for both adult and youth news, so that a different person would do
it every month- he calls the people when it's their turn to remind them
to turn it in by the fifteenth two months ahead of time.

It works really well because not only do you meet a new person every
month when you read the Oklahoma news, you get a new perspective on the
people and events in the state.

Shane

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From: Shane

To: youthpoa@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:14 PM

Subject: [youthpoa] Team Competition Proposal

The Youth Board has been working on a way to bring the Team
Competition to the International, since the World show that
traditionally holds this event doesn't exist anymore. Take a look at
this proposal- it will probably be on the agenda for the
International Youth Meeting and hopefully be ready to present to the
Board of Directors at the Sale in October.

Comments and suggestions and opinions are very welcome.

----------

Proposal for Team competition at the International

Purpose: To have youth teams from various states compete for the
number one team in the nation position

Process: Each state youth club will enter a team from each state
(the possibility of more than one team from a state can be addressed
later). The Team will consist of 2 youth from each age division (13-
18, 9-12, and 8 and under). They may be either boys or girls.
They will compete in their respective divisions at the international
as usual, and their class placing (the event they are nominated for)
will be added up to give a team total. The team with the highest
total will win the competition. The teams could be placed to 3 or 4
placing.

The divisions will consist of Showmanship, Western Equitation,
English Equitation, and Huntseat Equitation over Fences, Reining, and
one of any Game Class (to be determined by the state club).

Each member of the team will be chosen for a specific division, and
may have an alternate in case of illness or other issues that may
cause the team member not to show.

Each team member is not allowed to participate in their division
consecutive years.
(For example if Suzie rode in the western equitation division in
2005, then she would be unable to be nominated for the western
equitation division for 2006. However she could participate in any
of the other 5 divisions in 2006.

The Fee for the team entry would be paid for by the state. Awards
will be purchased with the entry fee money.

The Youth Team members must be members in the respective states they
are competing with.

The benefits are many:
1) Gives the youth another competitive outlet
2) Does not add any classes to the already long International
Schedule
3) Promotes a team atmosphere
4) Allows more chances for more kids to win awards
5) Allows the opportunity for more sponsorship monies

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This is what I have so far to talk about at the International. Add things if you can think of anything else we should talk about.

 

----------

 

Agenda for International 2006 Youth Advisory Board Meeting

 

I. Convention meeting review, bylaws

 

II. Nominations and elections explanation

III. Team Contest Proposal- refine and prepare for submission to national board

 

IV. Sponsorships

 

V. Should equitation classes be patterns-only? Rail work for tie-breaking?

 

VI. Adding days to International?

 

VII. Walk/Trot Pleasure Classes

 

Sometimes the Club News in the Magazine is designated as one person's
job for the whole year. Sometimes that's great- some of the newswriters
are really good at collecting all of the news and reporting it every
single month. But a lot of the time it's hard for one person to find
news every single month to write about.

This year in Oklahoma, our president Doug Schoppa had the great idea to
make a signup sheet to pass around at our banquet- there we filled it
out for both adult and youth news, so that a different person would do
it every month- he calls the people when it's their turn to remind them
to turn it in by the fifteenth two months ahead of time.

It works really well because not only do you meet a new person every
month when you read the Oklahoma news, you get a new perspective on the
people and events in the state.

Shane

The Youth Board has been working on a way to bring the Team
Competition to the International, since the World show that
traditionally holds this event doesn't exist anymore. Take a look at
this proposal- it will probably be on the agenda for the
International Youth Meeting and hopefully be ready to present to the
Board of Directors at the Sale in October.

Comments and suggestions and opinions are very welcome.

----------


Proposal for Team competition at the International

Purpose:  To have youth teams from various states compete for the
number one team in the nation position

Process:  Each state youth club will enter a team from each state
(the possibility of more than one team from a state can be addressed
later).  The Team will consist of 2 youth from each age division (13-
18, 9-12, and 8 and under).  They may be either boys or girls.
They will compete in their respective divisions at the international
as usual, and their class placing (the event they are nominated for)
will be added up to give a team total.  The team with the highest
total will win the competition.  The teams could be placed to 3 or 4
placing.

The divisions will consist of Showmanship, Western Equitation,
English Equitation, and Huntseat Equitation over Fences, Reining, and
one of any Game Class (to be determined by the state club).

Each member of the team will be chosen for a specific division, and
may have an alternate in case of illness or other issues that may
cause the team member not to show.

Each team member is not allowed to participate in their division
consecutive years.
(For example if Suzie rode in the western equitation division in
2005, then she would be unable to be nominated for the western
equitation division for 2006.  However she could participate in any
of the other 5 divisions in 2006.

The Fee for the team entry would be paid for by the state. Awards
will be purchased with the entry fee money.

The Youth Team members must be members in the respective states they
are competing with.

The benefits are many:
	 1) Gives the youth another competitive outlet
	 2) Does not add any classes to the already long International
Schedule
	 3)  Promotes a team atmosphere
	 4)  Allows more chances for more kids to win awards
	 5)  Allows the opportunity for more sponsorship monies

.

Shane,
The Reichert Celebration and I think the NSBA Breeders Championship
used to be held there so it must be some facility if large events like
those where recently there. From the pictures I've seen, the main
arena is huge. Three of the barns are attached to the main arena.
Here is the website for the facility -
http://www.thenationalequestriancenter.com/
I've never been there, but I heard it's pretty nice.

Congratulations on your SE Regional accomplishments!

Courtney



--- In youthpoa@yahoogroups.com, "Shane" <oatiepoa@...> wrote:
>
> I haven't been to it yet- what's it like? I heard that it was all
under
> one roof and the arena was a little small. Did anyone here go to the
> Missouri show there last year?
>
> Shane
>

I haven't been to it yet- what's it like? I heard that it was all under
one roof and the arena was a little small. Did anyone here go to the
Missouri show there last year?

Shane

Did you know that there are POA clubs in other countries?

The Australian Palouse Pony organization is the most successful of
the foreign clubs, and there has even been an exchange program with
that club and our POA club. My uncle Tom and several other POA kids
travelled to Australia and competed using Palouses, and a group of
Aussies came over and competed at the International using American
POAs. The website for it is http://www.palousepony.org.au

POAC-Germany just held its annual meeting, and there are pictures and
an article about it in the June 2006 POA Magazine. POACG seems to be
growing rather quickly and they are planning to advertise the POA
breed at a few upcoming European Horse Fairs.

Finally, a Swedish chapter of the POAC submitted bylaws to the POAC
Board of Directors at this year's convention. They submitted both
Swedish and English versions, of course! The Swedish club has very
few members and ponies, but they're brand new.

Thought it was interesting...

Shane

Had a great time at the SE regional. My mom and grandma were unable to
go, so my pony Nick and I hitched a ride with the Schoppas. I lived in
the Dykstra's nice bus, enjoying healthy meals and satellite TV every
night. Since I was unable to show Nick (he was sore), I shared the pony
that I rode last year, Avitars Peppy Perfection, with Ashton Boettcher.
So it turned out that the only thing I used that was actually mine all
weekend was the tack and show clothes. I was a real bum.

The regional was fun though, saw lots of friends and scored some sweet
Brooks and Dunn prizes. I won Hi-pt boys equitation (only 13-18 boy who
competed in equitation classes), so I got a little cooler/radio.

The Oklahoma kids did really well at the show- Both 8&U high points
were Okies (Alaina Mckenzie and Allison Bizone), Parris Schoppa won the
High Point Multiple Pony with Tippy and Jaxon as well as Hi Point
Equitation 13-18 Girls, and I got Res 13-18 boy and Hi pt Eq 13-18 boy
(again, just cuz I was the only boy!).

shane

Where have all the messages gone?

On the front page of YouthPOA group, there is a table that shows
monthly message history throughout the existence of the group. Our
highest monthly message count was one and a half years ago, with 151
messages in January of 2005. We have had four months with 100 or more
posts, and three months in a row with over 100 posts (that's only about
3 posts a day). But we haven't had a single month with more than 20
posts in an entire year.

This message is being sent to all 90 members of YouthPOA. Encourage
your POA friends who haven't heard of YouthPOA and yourselves to come
and talk about the exciting Youth Advisory Board, the unique POA breed,
maybe even how your state's last show went. Let's make this a fun,
active place again.

Shane

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LOL! Congrats on Both your sister and your new foal. No we arent traveling
at all this year. Not even to the international. I have too much going on
this year. Next year we will probably hit it pretty hard. We are only
showing locally. Unfortunately, this means i have to miss another meeting
  >:( . Hopefully, Shane will keep me informed on the youth talk :D. Anywho.
Congrats!
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From: "mlkeva" <mlkeva@...>
To: <youthpoa@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: [youthpoa] Re: Suggestion to everyone, save on ur place


> Lol morgan, I know!!! Honestly, I'm not into debating things with
> people if they aren't going to be open minded enough to even consider
> changing their minds. But.....I do like a good laugh now and then
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> with TONS of color is born to her!
>
> Are you coming to the SE regional?
>
> Eva
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