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Re: Aikido as a "martial" art

Mindset. The study of strict 'kihon' over the years gives you great
flowing within the syllabus. That is about it. But as some people
have said previously you will not respond on the battlefield with
a 'kihon' response. I say once you have a solid understanding of
basics why not begin to open your mind to applicable self defense
situations? I don't know how many sensei's out there do this or if
yours does or not, but I think if you are worried about martial
applications you should probably study them. I know a great teacher
in Hamilton who happens to put alot of focus on preparing his
students with something to defend themselves using yoshinkan basic
concepts in real life situations. It's very advanced "outside of
the syllabus" training if you think about it, but I don't see alot
of people practicing it. You could develop the martial response
through years and years AND YEARS of basic training and finally get
there one day, or you could train with someone who knows how to
apply the basics in real situations and get there alot quicker.

If you think about it, why do most people start training in a
martial art? Because they are scared or not confident enough to
deal with a hairy situation. I personally didn't join for that
reason, I just wanted to hang out with some new friends and drink
beer. I haven't been in a fight in 32 years and I don't plan on
getting into one. If I did though I am confident that I could hold
my own in one.

Regards,

Daryl




--- In yoshinkan@yahoogroups.com, "captain_black_belt"
<the_conscience@...> wrote:
>
> I have question that has long since plagued my mind. How do you,
as
> Yoshinkan practitioners, reconcile the fact that you devote so
much of
> your time to a martial art that isn't really 'martial'. I mean, we
> understand that the training curriculum is quite standardized with
a
> strict focus on kihon, but the curriculum does not have any venue
for
> actually testing the effectiveness of aikido in violent
situations. We
> train the kihon, develop the principals, and improve our timing
and
> power through jiyu waza. But how do you reconcile the fact that
this is
> a 'martial' art without any means of testing its martial quality.
This
> certainly isn't a dig at aikido, considering that I practice it
quite
> regularly and have been for over a decade. I'm just curious to see
how
> the wider aikido community reconciles this aspect of the art. Or
is
> this aspect of it even important to many of you?
>
> CBB
>








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I have question that has long since plagued my mind. How do you, as Yoshinkan practitioners, reconcile the fact that you devote so much of your time to a...
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Mar 23, 2006
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I believe Aikido is a budo and not a martial art in the usual way we think of that term. As a budo it is a "way" of life organized around martial principles. ...
Shumaker, Gordon
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Mar 23, 2006
7:51 pm

Heyas, To add to the thread Aikido is a martial art.Depends on how you train as individuals,and your instructors lesson plans.Just to add fuel to the ...
Brown John
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Mar 23, 2006
9:54 pm

I think that many of you make great points, especially Gordon's distinction between Budo and martial art. I agree that Yoshinkan can be used effectively in...
captain_black_belt
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Mar 23, 2006
11:00 pm

Hmm....one of the age old questions. I wonder if this point was the very one Danial san was learning from Mr. Miagi (spelling) by painting his fence. ...
Phase of Life
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Mar 23, 2006
11:43 pm

On the contrary, I believe (caveat, only a mudansha) Yoshinkan aikido can be effectively used in a street-fight, even if only in avoiding one (as Mr. Shumaker...
Fred Calef III
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Mar 23, 2006
8:48 pm

One further comment. Media accounts are replete with incidents in which yudansha in various martial arts have been beaten or killed by street fighters. In my...
Shumaker, Gordon
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Mar 24, 2006
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Sounds like good training! Some dojos are less "realistic." But even cops have problems when they try to use their modified Aikido techniques. A good...
Shumaker, Gordon
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Mar 24, 2006
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Mindset. The study of strict 'kihon' over the years gives you great flowing within the syllabus. That is about it. But as some people have said previously you...
Daryl Hartz
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Mar 24, 2006
2:11 pm

There have been some interesting and insightful comments from everybody so far. But I do some further questions/clarifications; Phase: That's a nice theory,...
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Mar 24, 2006
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The testing of Aikido as a "battle worthy" martial art is not even necessary. It has been battle proven for decades has it not? To know that it works without...
Daryl Hartz
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Mar 28, 2006
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Fire extinguishers are absolutely "useless"until they become priceless with the outbreak of a fire......That is the way of Aikido. ...
Brown John
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Mar 28, 2006
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Some people seem offended to think that Aikido might be called a budo rather than a martial art. A budo is a MARTIAL way. The word "bu" in Japanese signifies...
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