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Re: Aikido as a "martial" art

I think that many of you make great points, especially Gordon's
distinction between Budo and martial art. I agree that Yoshinkan can
be used effectively in violent encounters, whether on 'the street' or
in the ring, but without testing it how does one know they can use it
for self defence or combat? Again, there is no venue to test out your
aikido unless you happen to do this on your own, and we typically
engage in cooperative practice during class. Would 5'1" female sandan
really be able to execute kata mochi nikkajo if a 6'5" 270 lb.
attacker hell-bent on slamming her into ground atempted to do so, if
she has only ever followed the strict Yoshinkan curricula of kihon
waza and jiyu waza? Without ever testing it on a resisting, fighting,
aggressive opponent, could she, or anyone for that matter, hope to
make it work? It's one thing, I think, to practice it in the dojo,
but, as was stated, it has to be adapted for 'the street'. But other
martial arts, like karate, have venues to make their art more
effective(sparring, competitions).

John, does your dojo generally lean more towards 'applied'
or 'realistic' techniques and attacks? And if so, why?

CBB








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I have question that has long since plagued my mind. How do you, as Yoshinkan practitioners, reconcile the fact that you devote so much of your time to a...
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Mar 23, 2006
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I believe Aikido is a budo and not a martial art in the usual way we think of that term. As a budo it is a "way" of life organized around martial principles. ...
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Mar 23, 2006
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Heyas, To add to the thread Aikido is a martial art.Depends on how you train as individuals,and your instructors lesson plans.Just to add fuel to the ...
Brown John
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Mar 23, 2006
9:54 pm

I think that many of you make great points, especially Gordon's distinction between Budo and martial art. I agree that Yoshinkan can be used effectively in...
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Mar 23, 2006
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Hmm....one of the age old questions. I wonder if this point was the very one Danial san was learning from Mr. Miagi (spelling) by painting his fence. ...
Phase of Life
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Mar 23, 2006
11:43 pm

On the contrary, I believe (caveat, only a mudansha) Yoshinkan aikido can be effectively used in a street-fight, even if only in avoiding one (as Mr. Shumaker...
Fred Calef III
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Mar 23, 2006
8:48 pm

One further comment. Media accounts are replete with incidents in which yudansha in various martial arts have been beaten or killed by street fighters. In my...
Shumaker, Gordon
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Mar 24, 2006
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Sounds like good training! Some dojos are less "realistic." But even cops have problems when they try to use their modified Aikido techniques. A good...
Shumaker, Gordon
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Mar 24, 2006
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Mindset. The study of strict 'kihon' over the years gives you great flowing within the syllabus. That is about it. But as some people have said previously you...
Daryl Hartz
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Mar 24, 2006
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There have been some interesting and insightful comments from everybody so far. But I do some further questions/clarifications; Phase: That's a nice theory,...
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Mar 24, 2006
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The testing of Aikido as a "battle worthy" martial art is not even necessary. It has been battle proven for decades has it not? To know that it works without...
Daryl Hartz
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Mar 28, 2006
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Fire extinguishers are absolutely "useless"until they become priceless with the outbreak of a fire......That is the way of Aikido. ...
Brown John
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Mar 28, 2006
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Some people seem offended to think that Aikido might be called a budo rather than a martial art. A budo is a MARTIAL way. The word "bu" in Japanese signifies...
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