Re: [Yoshinkan] Important to the future of anyone's training
In fact, I'm not sure that I would read the proposed statute as
forbidding training in a school, including sparring. Nor does it
include jiyu waza and other aiki versions of pro wrestling.
Charles Yeomans
On Aug 1, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Shumaker, Gordon wrote:
> Is jiyu waza "sparring"? The definition of "prize fight" in the
> proposed
> Canadian legislation seems aimed at boxing, where both parties are
> using
> their fists. So, in Aikido, we have uke punching or kicking but sh'te
> applying a pin or a throw. Sometimes we have sh'te delivering atemi
> in the
> form of a distraction punch. But it would seem to be quite a stretch
> to
> suggest that anything in Aikido is reasonably covered by the
> definition of
> prize fight.
>
> Gordon Shumaker
Bottom line: All competitions, contests...even sparring...could be illegal. Well, since Yoshinkan Aikido does none of this, I suppose you're okay? Daryl Hartz...
Good question, I have no idea. I don't agree with it though, and as a practitioner of an art that I don't want restricted or potentially outlawed I am going...
If sparring, which is somewhat controlled, is banned or made illegal, what does that do to jiyu waza training? ... From: Steven Miranda Sent: Friday, July 22,...
Is jiyu waza "sparring"? The definition of "prize fight" in the proposed Canadian legislation seems aimed at boxing, where both parties are using their fists....
Shumaker, Gordon
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Aug 1, 2005 3:22 pm
In fact, I'm not sure that I would read the proposed statute as forbidding training in a school, including sparring. Nor does it include jiyu waza and other...
Charles Yeomans
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Aug 1, 2005 3:39 pm
The legislation is pretty insane,it seems open to precedents and interpretations. What if someone gets hurt and decides to sue that it was illegal activity...
All legislation is subject to interpretation; it helps keep Gordon employed. Worrying about whether someone might sue is a concern in any case. In this case,...
Charles Yeomans
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Aug 6, 2005 4:35 pm
Does it seem odd to anyone else that nowhere in the defintion of "prize fight" is receiving a prize mentioned??? It seems to me that according to their...
Donal Duncan
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Aug 6, 2005 4:58 pm
I agree, this is just a way for the no holds barred guys to gain support. I think if I were a fan of that cage style fighting I would support the protest of...
It is very interesting to see what some people's responces for this issue of rewriting Section 83 of Canada's Crimianl Code. There seems to be some who are not...
A typical law enforcement restraint is to put a person on his stomach and handcuff both hands behind his back. This position significantly restricts the...
Shumaker, Gordon
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Aug 1, 2005 3:52 pm
I agree if you feel that these sort of events are actually martial arts then you should support the fight against this new law. I already support NHB fighting...
Many years ago, Lou Nanne, coach of the former Minnesota North Stars (Mick, you know who they are now) recommended that the NHL ban fighting altogether. They...
Shumaker, Gordon
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Aug 3, 2005 1:30 pm
oh you mean Dallas stars.. ... From: yoshinkan@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yoshinkan@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ext Shumaker, Gordon Sent: Wednesday, August 03,...
I guess that's what they are called now. They dropped the "north" eh? ... From: mick.chambers@... [mailto:mick.chambers@...] Sent: Wednesday,...
Shumaker, Gordon
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Aug 3, 2005 1:37 pm
You are so correct, Charles. ... From: Charles Yeomans [mailto:yeomans@...] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 11:36 AM To: yoshinkan@yahoogroups.com ...
Shumaker, Gordon
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Aug 6, 2005 5:20 pm
Well, I have to ask (even though I am maybe not supposed to) if this member is Steven Seagal, the actor and famous Aikidoka? Likely this has been covered in...
thats funny because i thought old rich ladies that "enjoy" Gord's "company" is what kept him employed... did i miss something or is Gordie not in the "escort"...
Unfortunately they are not rich, just old. ... From: mick.chambers@... [mailto:mick.chambers@...] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 6:34 PM To:...
Shumaker, Gordon
gordon.shumaker@...
Aug 7, 2005 5:04 pm
I wondered the same thing. ... From: w.danosky [mailto:w.danosky@...] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 6:00 PM To: yoshinkan@yahoogroups.com Subject:...
Shumaker, Gordon
gordon.shumaker@...
Aug 7, 2005 5:04 pm
I also wondered the same thing but naaah,odds are its just a wanttabe. ... training ... member...