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Re: [Yoshinkan] Important to the future of anyone's training

In fact, I'm not sure that I would read the proposed statute as
forbidding training in a school, including sparring. Nor does it
include jiyu waza and other aiki versions of pro wrestling.

Charles Yeomans

On Aug 1, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Shumaker, Gordon wrote:

> Is jiyu waza "sparring"? The definition of "prize fight" in the
> proposed
> Canadian legislation seems aimed at boxing, where both parties are
> using
> their fists. So, in Aikido, we have uke punching or kicking but sh'te
> applying a pin or a throw. Sometimes we have sh'te delivering atemi
> in the
> form of a distraction punch. But it would seem to be quite a stretch
> to
> suggest that anything in Aikido is reasonably covered by the
> definition of
> prize fight.
>
> Gordon Shumaker




Mon Aug 1, 2005 3:39 pm

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I thought that everybody who has any interest whatsoever in any discipline of martial arts should be aware of this. It was taken from ...
Daryl Hartz
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Jul 22, 2005
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Bottom line: All competitions, contests...even sparring...could be illegal. Well, since Yoshinkan Aikido does none of this, I suppose you're okay? Daryl Hartz...
Steven Miranda
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Jul 22, 2005
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This definitely applies to all martial arts. Read the petition at the following URL: ...
Daryl Hartz
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Jul 22, 2005
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why is Canada pursuing this?...
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Jul 23, 2005
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Good question, I have no idea. I don't agree with it though, and as a practitioner of an art that I don't want restricted or potentially outlawed I am going...
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If sparring, which is somewhat controlled, is banned or made illegal, what does that do to jiyu waza training? ... From: Steven Miranda Sent: Friday, July 22,...
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Aug 1, 2005
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Is jiyu waza "sparring"? The definition of "prize fight" in the proposed Canadian legislation seems aimed at boxing, where both parties are using their fists....
Shumaker, Gordon
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Aug 1, 2005
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In fact, I'm not sure that I would read the proposed statute as forbidding training in a school, including sparring. Nor does it include jiyu waza and other...
Charles Yeomans
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Aug 1, 2005
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The legislation is pretty insane,it seems open to precedents and interpretations. What if someone gets hurt and decides to sue that it was illegal activity...
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Aug 6, 2005
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All legislation is subject to interpretation; it helps keep Gordon employed. Worrying about whether someone might sue is a concern in any case. In this case,...
Charles Yeomans
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Aug 6, 2005
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Does it seem odd to anyone else that nowhere in the defintion of "prize fight" is receiving a prize mentioned??? It seems to me that according to their...
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I agree, this is just a way for the no holds barred guys to gain support. I think if I were a fan of that cage style fighting I would support the protest of...
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It is very interesting to see what some people's responces for this issue of rewriting Section 83 of Canada's Crimianl Code. There seems to be some who are not...
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... Can any tell me (authoritatively) what a "sporting legislature" ? Rob...
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A typical law enforcement restraint is to put a person on his stomach and handcuff both hands behind his back. This position significantly restricts the...
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I agree if you feel that these sort of events are actually martial arts then you should support the fight against this new law. I already support NHB fighting...
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Many years ago, Lou Nanne, coach of the former Minnesota North Stars (Mick, you know who they are now) recommended that the NHL ban fighting altogether. They...
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oh you mean Dallas stars.. ... From: yoshinkan@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yoshinkan@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ext Shumaker, Gordon Sent: Wednesday, August 03,...
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I guess that's what they are called now. They dropped the "north" eh? ... From: mick.chambers@... [mailto:mick.chambers@...] Sent: Wednesday,...
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You are so correct, Charles. ... From: Charles Yeomans [mailto:yeomans@...] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 11:36 AM To: yoshinkan@yahoogroups.com ...
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Aug 6, 2005
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Well, I have to ask (even though I am maybe not supposed to) if this member is Steven Seagal, the actor and famous Aikidoka? Likely this has been covered in...
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Aug 6, 2005
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thats funny because i thought old rich ladies that "enjoy" Gord's "company" is what kept him employed... did i miss something or is Gordie not in the "escort"...
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Unfortunately they are not rich, just old. ... From: mick.chambers@... [mailto:mick.chambers@...] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 6:34 PM To:...
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I wondered the same thing. ... From: w.danosky [mailto:w.danosky@...] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 6:00 PM To: yoshinkan@yahoogroups.com Subject:...
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I also wondered the same thing but naaah,odds are its just a wanttabe. ... training ... member...
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