Moving day to a new host for YAMBA.org is on Nov 5th.  The move will start at
approximately 10:00 PM.  Yamba.org will be down for anywhere from 2 hours to
more likely 12-24 hours as the new server information propagates.  The site name
will be the same but the layout be new.

You can visit the new site at it's temporary domain here 
http://yorkareamountainbikers.org.  The new site offers many features that were
not available using Yahoo.  The biggest of which, for the club, is online
memberships and renewals.  The calendar is now using Google Calendar so members
are able to sync events to there own computers.  There is a new photo album page
and also check out the new discussion forum and sign up ahead of time.

We hope to see everybody over on the new site in a few days.

Kevin

If the Ridge is open, I'm hoping for an early Halloween ride this afternoon.


-----Original Message-----
From: litlfeese <travis@...>
To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: YAMBA Re: Looking for Travis Feeser






Damn Ken... that's a little rough don't ya think... So .. when ya want to go
riding so I can show ya how.

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, liquorbeans@... wrote:
>
>
> I'm sure you'll suck at golf and shuffleboard, too. Stick with skiing!!!
>
> Ken M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: litlfeese <travis@...>
> To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 10:27 am
> Subject: YAMBA Re: Looking for Travis Feeser
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I sold all my bikes. I'm not riding anymore. Took up golf and shuffleboard.
I'll send ya an email Ray..
>
> Travis
>
> --- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <rjmiche@> wrote:
> >
> > Travis, are you still on this group? I tried to email but the address I have
does not work.
> >
> > Anyone know if Travis is still in the area? I'd like to send him his renewal
reminder for Yamba membership.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ray
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> =
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Damn Ken... that's a little rough don't ya think...  So .. when ya want to go
riding so I can show ya how.

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, liquorbeans@... wrote:
>
>
> I'm sure you'll suck at golf and shuffleboard, too.  Stick with skiing!!!
>
> Ken M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: litlfeese <travis@...>
> To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 10:27 am
> Subject: YAMBA Re: Looking for Travis Feeser
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I sold all my bikes. I'm not riding anymore. Took up golf and shuffleboard.
I'll send ya an email Ray..
>
> Travis
>
> --- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <rjmiche@> wrote:
> >
> > Travis, are you still on this group? I tried to email but the address I have
does not work.
> >
> > Anyone know if Travis is still in the area? I'd like to send him his renewal
reminder for Yamba membership.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ray
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> =
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'm sure you'll suck at golf and shuffleboard, too.  Stick with skiing!!!

Ken M.


-----Original Message-----
From: litlfeese <travis@...>
To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 10:27 am
Subject: YAMBA Re: Looking for Travis Feeser






I sold all my bikes. I'm not riding anymore. Took up golf and shuffleboard. I'll
send ya an email Ray..

Travis

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <rjmiche@...> wrote:
>
> Travis, are you still on this group? I tried to email but the address I have
does not work.
>
> Anyone know if Travis is still in the area? I'd like to send him his renewal
reminder for Yamba membership.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ray
>





=


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I sold all my bikes.  I'm not riding anymore.  Took up golf and shuffleboard. 
I'll send ya an email Ray..

Travis

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <rjmiche@...> wrote:
>
> Travis, are you still on this group?  I tried to email but the address I have
does not work.
>
> Anyone know if Travis is still in the area?  I'd like to send him his renewal
reminder for Yamba membership.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ray
>

Ray,
Hey, I went to school with Travis. I have his phone number if you want to
contact me off group. My email is edwardheiland@....

--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Ray <rjmiche@...> wrote:

From: Ray <rjmiche@...>
Subject: YAMBA Looking for Travis Feeser
To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 5:45 PM






 





                   Travis, are you still on this group?  I tried to email but the
address I have does not work.



Anyone know if Travis is still in the area?  I'd like to send him his renewal
reminder for Yamba membership.



Thanks



Ray































[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Travis, are you still on this group?  I tried to email but the address I have
does not work.

Anyone know if Travis is still in the area?  I'd like to send him his renewal
reminder for Yamba membership.

Thanks

Ray

(sorry for the duplicate, needed to send as a special notice)

Hi All

This has gone out from Skip already, but just wanted to post again with just a
bit more information!

You can now renew your YAMBA membership online.

http://www.yorkareamountainbikers.org/membership/membership.php

When you renew, please enter an email address that you monitor (not a junk one)
as membership materials will be emailed to the address you enter.

Also, you must complete the Paypal process for your membership to be considered
complete.

At some point I will be transitioning the renewal reminders to be via email and
not snail mail. In the mean time I will mostly likely switch the renewal
reminder to be a post card with no renewal forms mailed.


Thanks

Ray

Hi All

This has gone out from Skip already, but just wanted to post again with just a
bit more information!

You can now renew your YAMBA membership online.

http://www.yorkareamountainbikers.org/membership/membership.php

When you renew, please enter an email address that you monitor (not a junk one)
as membership materials will be emailed to the address you enter.

Also, you must complete the Paypal process for your membership to be considered
complete.

At some point I will be transitioning the renewal reminders to be via email and
not snail mail.  In the mean time I will mostly likely switch the renewal
reminder to be a post card with no renewal forms mailed.


Thanks

Ray

Hey All,

The message below is from Terri Major who is a YAMBA member along with her
husband Mike. Please get in touch with her if you are interested-Thanks!

Hey Skip! Just wanted to give you the info on the personal training. You can
post that I am certified through the National Academy of Sports Medicine (NASM)
and that I will give a special rate to YAMBA members and their spouses. They can
contact me at (717)880-2538 or mtmajor@... for more information. Thanks
so much!


                                                                                                                           
Terri Major

who wants to ride both lake loops this week?  i am going to go either wednesday
or thursday afternoon.  probably try to get at the marina around 2 or 3.  just
an intermediate pace.  trying to enjoy some of the last fall weather that we
will be privileged to have this week.  i also plan on hittin' the ridge
tommorrow around the same time. i really don't like riding the darkside alone, i
think it's haunted.

ken

dirty maroon '99 cougar

Good points.

I'm for the email updates.

I'll personally visit the YAMBA Facebook page before the new website because of
the ease of access through my mobile device. Just my 2 cents.

Keep up the great work!

w.

Thanks, Kevin, for taking so much of your personal time to create the new
site at http://www.yorkareamountainbikers.org/. I have one small change
request: "Mountainbike" in the header of the new site should be "Mountain
Bike." Otherwise we're all members of YAMA.



Ken Stadden

     _____   __o

-------  _ -\<,

  ------ ( )/ ( )

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

              Better ideas since 1951



From: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of snsdurgin
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 3:18 PM
To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!





And the Winner is Tim Kramer!!! Tim, I'll mail out your gift certificate and
YAMBA t-shirt just let me know what size you need. Thanks for everyone that
signed up so far!

It's a dreary and wet weekend so take a few minutes to sign-up or renew your
YAMBA contributing membership online. The next 5 people to sign up will
receive YAMBA t-shirts so what ate you waiting for!

For those of you who are already members, take sometime to check out our new
website at www.yorkareamountainbikers.org and let us what you think by
signing up for the new message forum.

Thanks for everyone's Support!

See ya on the trails,

Skip

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:yorkareamountainbikers%40yahoogroups.com> , snsdurgin <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our
new website at www.yorkareamountainbikers.org
>
> I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have
been wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your
membership, now is the perfect time! The online registration will only take
you a few minutes and it's secure through Paypal.
>
> Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate
for 1 Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA
T-shirt!!!
>
> Get Ready....
>
>
> Get set....
>
>
> Go, Go, Go....
> www.yorkareamountainbikers.org
>
> See ya on the trails,
>
> Skip
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Skip...don't have your email addy.  Shirt size is L.  Thanks!

Tim
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: snsdurgin <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:17:51
To: <yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!

And the Winner is Tim Kramer!!! Tim, I'll mail out your gift certificate and
YAMBA t-shirt just let me know what size you need. Thanks for everyone that
signed up so far!

It's a dreary and wet weekend so take a few minutes to sign-up or renew your
YAMBA contributing membership online. The next 5 people to sign up will receive
YAMBA t-shirts so what ate you waiting for!

For those of you who are already members, take sometime to check out our new
website at www.yorkareamountainbikers.org and let us what you think by signing
up for the new message forum.

Thanks for everyone's Support!

See ya on the trails,

Skip

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, snsdurgin <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our new
website at www.yorkareamountainbikers.org
>
> I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have
been wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your membership,
now is the perfect time! The online registration will only take you a few
minutes and it's secure through Paypal.
>
> Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate for 1
Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA T-shirt!!!
>
> Get Ready....
>
>
> Get set....
>
>
> Go, Go, Go....
> www.yorkareamountainbikers.org
>
> See ya on the trails,
>
> Skip
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Trailwork is CANCELLED!!  There was a delay in insurance renewal due to having
to switch companies and underwriters.  Oh and in case you missed it, it's still
raining.  :-(

kevin

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com,
yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Reminder from: yorkareamountainbikers Yahoo! Group
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkareamountainbikers/cal
>
> Trail Work - 1:30pm - TBD
> Sunday October 18, 2009
> 1:30 pm - 4:00 pm
>
> All Rights Reserved
>  Copyright © 2009
>  Yahoo! Inc.
>  http://www.yahoo.com
>
> Privacy Policy:
>  http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us
>
> Terms of Service:
>  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

Woo hoo!  The advantages of having a blackberry!  Skip...i'll email ya with my
info

Tim
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: snsdurgin <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:43:20
To: <yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!

You were a close second Matt! How about a YAMBA t-shirt for a runners-up prize?

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Houseknecht
<matthewhouseknecht@...> wrote:
>
> What???  Aw man, I thought for sure I had it...  Oh well.
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: snsdurgin <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 3:17:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!
>
>
> And the Winner is Tim Kramer!!! Tim, I'll mail out your gift certificate and
YAMBA t-shirt just let me know what size you need. Thanks for everyone that
signed up so far!
>
> It's a dreary and wet weekend so take a few minutes to sign-up or renew your
YAMBA contributing membership online. The next 5 people to sign up will receive
YAMBA t-shirts so what ate you waiting for!
>
> For those of you who are already members, take sometime to check out our new
website at www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org and let us what you think by signing
up for the new message forum.
>
> Thanks for everyone's Support!
>
> See ya on the trails,
>
> Skip
>
> --- In yorkareamountainbik ers@yahoogroups. com, snsdurgin <no_reply@ .>
wrote:
> >
> > You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our
new website at www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org
> >
> > I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have
been wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your membership,
now is the perfect time! The online registration will only take you a few
minutes and it's secure through Paypal.
> >
> > Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate for
1 Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA T-shirt!!!
> >
> > Get Ready....
> >
> >
> > Get set....
> >
> >
> > Go, Go, Go....
> > www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org
> >
> > See ya on the trails,
> >
> > Skip
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Woooo hooooo! Don't have one Skip. Size large if ya please. Thanks!!!

Matthew

Have a great day!

On Oct 17, 2009, at 3:43 PM, snsdurgin <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

You were a close second Matt! How about a YAMBA t-shirt for a runners-up prize?

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Houseknecht
<matthewhouseknecht@...> wrote:
>
> What??? Aw man, I thought for sure I had it... Oh well.
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: snsdurgin <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 3:17:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!
>
>
> And the Winner is Tim Kramer!!! Tim, I'll mail out your gift certificate and
YAMBA t-shirt just let me know what size you need. Thanks for everyone that
signed up so far!
>
> It's a dreary and wet weekend so take a few minutes to sign-up or renew your
YAMBA contributing membership online. The next 5 people to sign up will receive
YAMBA t-shirts so what ate you waiting for!
>
> For those of you who are already members, take sometime to check out our new
website at www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org and let us what you think by signing
up for the new message forum.
>
> Thanks for everyone's Support!
>
> See ya on the trails,
>
> Skip
>
> --- In yorkareamountainbik ers@yahoogroups. com, snsdurgin <no_reply@ .>
wrote:
> >
> > You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our
new website at www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org
> >
> > I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have
been wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your membership,
now is the perfect time! The online registration will only take you a few
minutes and it's secure through Paypal.
> >
> > Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate for
1 Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA T-shirt!!!
> >
> > Get Ready....
> >
> >
> > Get set....
> >
> >
> > Go, Go, Go....
> > www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org
> >
> > See ya on the trails,
> >
> > Skip
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

You were a close second Matt! How about a YAMBA t-shirt for a runners-up prize?

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Houseknecht
<matthewhouseknecht@...> wrote:
>
> What???  Aw man, I thought for sure I had it...  Oh well.
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: snsdurgin <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 3:17:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!
>
>
> And the Winner is Tim Kramer!!! Tim, I'll mail out your gift certificate and
YAMBA t-shirt just let me know what size you need. Thanks for everyone that
signed up so far!
>
> It's a dreary and wet weekend so take a few minutes to sign-up or renew your
YAMBA contributing membership online. The next 5 people to sign up will receive
YAMBA t-shirts so what ate you waiting for!
>
> For those of you who are already members, take sometime to check out our new
website at www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org and let us what you think by signing
up for the new message forum.
>
> Thanks for everyone's Support!
>
> See ya on the trails,
>
> Skip
>
> --- In yorkareamountainbik ers@yahoogroups. com, snsdurgin <no_reply@ .>
wrote:
> >
> > You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our
new website at www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org
> >
> > I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have
been wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your membership,
now is the perfect time! The online registration will only take you a few
minutes and it's secure through Paypal.
> >
> > Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate for
1 Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA T-shirt!!!
> >
> > Get Ready....
> >
> >
> > Get set....
> >
> >
> > Go, Go, Go....
> > www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org
> >
> > See ya on the trails,
> >
> > Skip
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

What???  Aw man, I thought for sure I had it...  Oh well.

Matthew



________________________________
From: snsdurgin <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 3:17:51 PM
Subject: Re: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!


And the Winner is Tim Kramer!!! Tim, I'll mail out your gift certificate and
YAMBA t-shirt just let me know what size you need. Thanks for everyone that
signed up so far!

It's a dreary and wet weekend so take a few minutes to sign-up or renew your
YAMBA contributing membership online. The next 5 people to sign up will receive
YAMBA t-shirts so what ate you waiting for!

For those of you who are already members, take sometime to check out our new
website at www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org and let us what you think by signing
up for the new message forum.

Thanks for everyone's Support!

See ya on the trails,

Skip

--- In yorkareamountainbik ers@yahoogroups. com, snsdurgin <no_reply@.. .>
wrote:
>
> You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our new
website at www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org
>
> I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have
been wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your membership,
now is the perfect time! The online registration will only take you a few
minutes and it's secure through Paypal.
>
> Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate for 1
Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA T-shirt!!!
>
> Get Ready....
>
>
> Get set....
>
>
> Go, Go, Go....
> www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org
>
> See ya on the trails,
>
> Skip
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

And the Winner is Tim Kramer!!! Tim, I'll mail out your gift certificate and
YAMBA t-shirt just let me know what size you need. Thanks for everyone that
signed up so far!

It's a dreary and wet weekend so take a few minutes to sign-up or renew your
YAMBA contributing membership online. The next 5 people to sign up will receive
YAMBA t-shirts so what ate you waiting for!

For those of you who are already members, take sometime to check out our new
website at www.yorkareamountainbikers.org and let us what you think by signing
up for the new message forum.

Thanks for everyone's Support!

See ya on the trails,

Skip

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com, snsdurgin <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our new
website at www.yorkareamountainbikers.org
>
> I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have
been wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your membership,
now is the perfect time! The online registration will only take you a few
minutes and it's secure through Paypal.
>
> Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate for 1
Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA T-shirt!!!
>
> Get Ready....
>
>
> Get set....
>
>
> Go, Go, Go....
> www.yorkareamountainbikers.org
>
> See ya on the trails,
>
> Skip
>

I was able to complete it....


Matthew



________________________________
From: Shawn Gold <shawn.gold@...>
To: "yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com"
<yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 8:30:07 PM
Subject: RE: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!


Skip,
Great idea for the online membership.  The club is doing a great job and I have
wanted to contribute $ for awhile but I never seem to find time to drop a check
in the mail.

I just tried to go on the website and signup for a membership but the form goes
blank after the page loads.

Shawn Gold
Aker Wade Power Technologies
NE Regional Sales Manager
Mobile: 717-668-0338
[cid:image001.jpg@ 01CA4E9F. 026F36D0]
www.akerwade. com

From: yorkareamountainbik ers@yahoogroups. com [mailto:yorkareamountainbik
ers@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of snsdurgin
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:35 PM
To: yorkareamountainbik ers@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!

You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our new
website at www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org

I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have been
wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your membership, now
is the perfect time! The online registration will only take you a few minutes
and it's secure through Paypal.

Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate for 1
Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA T-shirt!!!

Get Ready....

Get set....

Go, Go, Go....
www.yorkareamountai nbikers.org

See ya on the trails,

Skip

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Skip,
Great idea for the online membership.  The club is doing a great job and I have
wanted to contribute $ for awhile but I never seem to find time to drop a check
in the mail.

I just tried to go on the website and signup for a membership but the form goes
blank after the page loads.


Shawn Gold
Aker Wade Power Technologies
NE Regional Sales Manager
Mobile: 717-668-0338
[cid:image001.jpg@...]
www.akerwade.com

From: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of snsdurgin
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:35 PM
To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Renew your YAMBA membership online now!



You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our new
website at www.yorkareamountainbikers.org

I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have been
wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your membership, now
is the perfect time! The online registration will only take you a few minutes
and it's secure through Paypal.

Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate for 1
Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA T-shirt!!!

Get Ready....

Get set....

Go, Go, Go....
www.yorkareamountainbikers.org

See ya on the trails,

Skip



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You can now sign-up or renew your YAMBA membership online by visiting our new
website at www.yorkareamountainbikers.org

I'm looking for someone to be our first-ever online member, so if you have been
wanting to officially join YAMBA or you just need to re-up your membership, now
is the perfect time! The online registration will only take you a few minutes
and it's secure through Paypal.

Whoever is our first ever online member will receive a gift certificate for 1
Hour of Free boating at Lake Redman (Good through 2010) and a YAMBA T-shirt!!!

Get Ready....


Get set....


Go, Go, Go....
www.yorkareamountainbikers.org

See ya on the trails,

Skip

Thanks, Kevin

I agree on not wanting things to be complex, which is why mailing
lists are a good thing.

Some things from my own experience with YBR that may be useful as you
hone the forum, web site, and calendar:

1) I started with just a mailing list.  This is when YBR was growing,
and it was an easy way for all members to 'post' and see what was
going on.  But eventually we needed a way to organize things, as a
mailing list is not good at that, so...

2) I wrote the YBR event database.  This worked out really well, and
gave us all kinds of granularity.  I even had it set so that when
someone posted an event, others could 'join' that event, so we'd have
an idea of who was coming.  I also had the ability to track race times
and training through the events.

3) What happened was that nobody used the event sign ups (because that
requires active site partition).  Nobody used the training either.
Originally , I had 3 main mailing lists (cycling, running, and
multisport).  People complained and wanted a single list, so I made it
that way again.  Of course, years later, they again wanted a bunch of
different lists.  Can't please anybody :-)  The point, however, was
that while cool, many features weren't being used by anybody, so were
effectively useless.

So, without going into too much detail, we ended up with a simpler
database to track events, and a single team-wide mailing list.  The
key was that it was user-driven, so always up to date.  Every member
of the team had the ability to schedule events, and locations, along
with publishing any info about themselves they would like (phone,
email, goals, etc).  Each member could also comment on other people's
event and location submissions, but not alter the original.  This was
a good compromise between integrity, security, and availability.  Of
course, you got the benefit of being able to search and list.  Need a
list of mountain bikers?  road bikers?  Skiiers?  it was 2 clicks to
do that, for example.  Same for getting lists of places to mountain
bike, road bike, or ski.
The result was that we had a lot of good information in a consistent
format, and many people contributed vs. all of the effort falling on a
couple of people due to either access control for security or the site
simply being a pain to navigate for people who didn't use it often.

So, what I learned from managing a large and diverse team's data (keep
in mind, nice tools like phpbb and google calendar didn't exist when I
started all of this):

1) mailing lists, being passive, are your best communications device.
Don't get rid of them or try to replace them with web toys.  It's best
to have at least one list that will go to all members (who want it, of
course ... always give the option to opt-out, or better yet, opt-in).
Mail is easy for end users to archive, search, etc.  With web stuff,
you are forced to actively seek it out, and are stuck using whatever
UI you are given.

2) for an online database/forum/bulletin board/whatever to be
effective, it has to be user-driven, and the interface has to be honed
to be efficient for what it is trying to accomplish.  In YBR's case,
that was a reliable calendar of events, people, and places to do
things, and the ability to intuitively filter on the information that
you wanted at any given time.  The bonus here was that those
responsible for membership already had a real database to deal with it
in (I just added a 'renewal date' field, and only gave certain users
access to the membership screens).

Just some of the stuff I learned from doing this over the years.  Keep
up the great work, it's looking good so far.

-- Greg


--
Greg Spath,  CISSP, RHCT, Security+
   AIM/Yahoo: fr33f411
   Google Talk: gkspath
   Blackberry PIN:  24613097
   :(){ :|:& };:

I also agree on the email notifications. We've used them to announce many
things, but people still come on the site to ask for details after the
announcement. So people just aren't reading their mail or just not receiving it
at all.

I like the idea of being able to subscribe to specific areas. (I'm assuming one
can do that, have not specifically done that yet) I think one of the reasons
people don't get instant email for the Yahoo! site is that there can be at times
a lot of chatter on the group. That's great if you are interested in the topic,
but not if don't want to weed through message to find exactly what you want.

Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "fsrwesty" <myfakeemail2@...>
To: yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:04:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: YAMBA Re: New site observations






Greg, I appreciate the feedback. However I do disagree w/ you a bit, but also
agree somewhat too. I have been making modifications to the notification system
on the forums, and will be adding an RSS feed later today. Personally I disagree
on the mailing list and most other members on the board do as well. That is one
reason for changing sites. Between the way that I have the notifications set up,
and the RSS feed, the forums will act like a mailing list if you so wish. You
may be surprised that a lot of members here don't actually have mailing enabled,
or only have daily digest enabled.

You have to understand that the new site will be changing over the next three
weeks as we get it to where we "want" it to be. That is the reason we went live,
but didn't transfer the Yamba.org domain yet. Same goes for the google calendar,
it will be updated, but right now other aspects are taking a front seat. Also
right now, until the transfer is fully complete the moderators of this page and
of the new site are splitting time, with most of them here, and me on the new
site.

The night rides are posted on both the homepage of this site and on the new
site, as well as Will making announcements on both sites. He is just starting to
take this responsibility on so you have to give him time to get everything in
place.

I have heard a couple complaints about the floating boxes and will probably
disable them. I thought about the number of sub-forums when starting the forum
up and thought the same thing as you, that things would get lost. But also the
way it is setup it allows better organization. I'm not sure, I may combine some
in the future. Although on the lack of contributors, people have already started
posting. We'll see how it works out.

Again thanks for the feedback. One thing to keep in mind too, is that not
everybody is as much as a computer geek as you and I, and we have to be careful
not to project our usage habits on to others, or take for granted how they come
to the site/get information. That is why feedback is important, and it will all
be taken in and debated. Changes will be made based on feedback

Last thing, it would be helpful if feedback would be left on the new site in the
feedback forum. I am there doing maintenance and don't have the time to check
this site as often as before.

Kevin

--- In yorkareamountainbikers@yahoogroups.com , Greg Spath <gspath@...> wrote:
>
> I, and I'm sure many others, use mobile devices much more than
> computers. That said, having to visit a web site to get messages
> isn't going to work well for most people, IMHO. We need a real mail
> list, I think.
>
> Also, use of the google calendar is a splendid idea. But it needs to
> be consistently populated. There is an announcement on the web pages
> about night rides that I would have been oblivious to had I not gone
> to the web sites. Why aren't these in the calendar?
>
> Again,
> I, and many others, don't have time to be constantly checking a web
> site to see what is going on. It's a great resource, and definitely
> necessary, but you also need a real mailing list, which is passive,
> not requiring people to constantly go to a web site to see what is
> going on. For events, the use of google means ical, which already
> takes care of population into user's scheduling software of choice.
> Can a mailing list be re-implemented? If not, I can certainly set up
> lists on my own server for YAMBA, at least temporarily.
>
> Forums are an ok idea (an NNTP server does this a lot better, but I
> digress), but there are far too many sub-topics for a single group.
> Important stuff is going to get lost in the shuffle, and you're going
> to end up with only a few contributors.
>
> Just MHO, as always.
>
> Oh yeah.... and those floating menu bubbles are annoying.
>
> -- Greg
>
>
> --
> Greg Spath, CISSP, RHCT, Security+
> AIM/Yahoo: fr33f411
> Google Talk: gkspath
> Blackberry PIN: 24613097
> :(){ :|:& };:
>




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