I agree for the price they charge there should be an additional bottle holder
option.  This would be a great addition for a size 48 Y-foil since it has no
bottle holder option.  Additionally for the price it better be a sweet thing in
comfort for your bottom.




________________________________
From: art <faboo3@...>
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 2:10:56 PM
Subject: [yfoil] Re: saddle mounted bottle cages


i've seen that saddle, it's cool, but only holds one bottle.

i did find a way to keep the bottles from ejecting.  a tri guy came into the
bike shop i work at to get one of his bikes worked on.  he's using a saddle
mounted cage also (beaker concepts hydrotail), with profile design cages.  what
he's done was use hair ties he "borrowed" from his wife and looped them onto the
cage.  other end gets looped over the bottle nozzle.  i had a similar idea, but
never got around to trying it out. well,i finally did, and i went a whole ride
without dropping a bottle.  it's a little inconvienent to have to reach back and
unloop the bottle, but it's better than having to turn around to fetch a bottle.

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups. com, Nathan Scot Montague <nathanscotsmu@ ...> wrote:
>
> I'm not a fan of the saddle bottle holder, but I might be swayed by the Selle
Italia Optima saddle. Light and high tech enough looking for the Y-Foil.
> Scot
>
>
> --- On Fri, 11/13/09, art <faboo3@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: art <faboo3@...>
> Subject: [yfoil] saddle mounted bottle cages
> To: yfoil@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 8:09 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> anyone here other than me use the saddle mounted bottle cages? i've gone from
the profile design model (which snapped halfway through a ride), to an x-lab
model which is working well for me. the problem i'm having is that i keep
throwing my bottles everytime i hit a good enough bump or dip. this only happens
with a full bottle. is anyone else having this problem? if not, tell me what
you're doing right, that way i can copy you.
>
> thanks!
>
> art mata
> "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> â€"Sophocles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

i've seen that saddle, it's cool, but only holds one bottle.

i did find a way to keep the bottles from ejecting.  a tri guy came into the
bike shop i work at to get one of his bikes worked on.  he's using a saddle
mounted cage also (beaker concepts hydrotail), with profile design cages.  what
he's done was use hair ties he "borrowed" from his wife and looped them onto the
cage.  other end gets looped over the bottle nozzle.  i had a similar idea, but
never got around to trying it out. well,i finally did, and i went a whole ride
without dropping a bottle.  it's a little inconvienent to have to reach back and
unloop the bottle, but it's better than having to turn around to fetch a bottle.

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, Nathan Scot Montague <nathanscotsmu@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not a fan of the saddle bottle holder, but I might be swayed by the Selle
Italia Optima saddle. Light and high tech enough looking for the Y-Foil.
> Scot
>
>
> --- On Fri, 11/13/09, art <faboo3@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: art <faboo3@...>
> Subject: [yfoil] saddle mounted bottle cages
> To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 8:09 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> anyone here other than me use the saddle mounted bottle cages? i've gone from
the profile design model (which snapped halfway through a ride), to an x-lab
model which is working well for me. the problem i'm having is that i keep
throwing my bottles everytime i hit a good enough bump or dip. this only happens
with a full bottle. is anyone else having this problem? if not, tell me what
you're doing right, that way i can copy you.
>
> thanks!
>
> art mata
> "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> â€"Sophocles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'm not a fan of the saddle bottle holder, but I might be swayed by the Selle
Italia Optima saddle. Light and high tech enough looking for the Y-Foil.
Scot


--- On Fri, 11/13/09, art <faboo3@...> wrote:


From: art <faboo3@...>
Subject: [yfoil] saddle mounted bottle cages
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 8:09 PM


 



anyone here other than me use the saddle mounted bottle cages? i've gone from
the profile design model (which snapped halfway through a ride), to an x-lab
model which is working well for me. the problem i'm having is that i keep
throwing my bottles everytime i hit a good enough bump or dip. this only happens
with a full bottle. is anyone else having this problem? if not, tell me what
you're doing right, that way i can copy you.

thanks!

art mata
"I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
–Sophocles











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I use the profile aero bottle between the legs and a polar shoved into my jersey
center pocket, but I want to get a raceback and ditch the polar.

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, art <faboo3@...> wrote:

From: art <faboo3@...>
Subject: [yfoil] Re: saddle mounted bottle cages
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 10:00 PM







 









       George

the profile design system i had was the one that clamps onto the rear of the
saddle rails.  mine snapped with two full 24oz bottles attached at the thinnest
part of the system (not the bottle cage themselves)between the clamping device
and the angle joint.

i'm looking to try and save me some serious mula by not having to resort to
purchasing the x-lab gorilla cages (guaranteed to not throw bottles-$50each) .

i've seen the bontrager version, even though it's carbon, the clamping mechanism
on the thing makes it one of the heaviest saddle mounts on the market.  very
utilitarian though, that you can hook up all sorts of stuff to it.



art mata

"I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"

–Sophocles



--- In yfoil@yahoogroups. com, George Awai <gawai2007@. ..> wrote:

>

> Hey Art,

>

> I used a Profile Design on my bike and it works well.   I'm not sure about the
tab or snapped issue you mention.  I'm assuming that

> you are referring to the large O-ring that goes around the whole cage.  I
noticed that some people mention that their leg hits the cage but I set mine all
the way to the top or the base of the seat post and don't have a problem with
that setting. After about two years the O-ring did snap.  This piece is
important to keep tension on the water bottle or your bottles will fly out if
you hit a hard bump. I called Profile and they sent me an O-ring set that should
last for some time.

>

> I'm wondering if anyone has used the Bontrager saddle mounted cage?  Like to
know how that one is.

>

> Hope that helps.

>

> G

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: art <faboo3@...>

> To: yfoil@yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 6:14:31 PM

> Subject: [yfoil] Re: saddle mounted bottle cages

>

>

> whoops...

> forgot to add, i'm using the old bottle cages that were with the profile
design model.  they don't have the usual tabs that most cages have at the top of
the cage.

>

> art mata

> "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"

> â€"Sophocles

>

> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. com, "art" <faboo3@> wrote:

> >

> > anyone here other than me use the saddle mounted bottle cages?  i've gone
from the profile design model (which snapped halfway through a ride), to an
x-lab model which is working well for me.  the problem i'm having is that i keep
throwing my bottles everytime i hit a good enough bump or dip.  this only
happens with a full bottle. is anyone else having this problem?  if not, tell me
what you're doing right, that way i can copy you.

> >

> > thanks!

> >

> > art mata

> > "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"

> > â€"Sophocles

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Art,

I now understand which version you have.  Did you contact Profile Design and
express your situation?  They are pretty good about trying to make things right
if they find that it's a design problem.  They might have a replacement price or
repair price that might work out for you as well.

G




________________________________
From: art <faboo3@...>
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 7:00:47 PM
Subject: [yfoil] Re: saddle mounted bottle cages


George
the profile design system i had was the one that clamps onto the rear of the
saddle rails.  mine snapped with two full 24oz bottles attached at the thinnest
part of the system (not the bottle cage themselves)between the clamping device
and the angle joint.
i'm looking to try and save me some serious mula by not having to resort to
purchasing the x-lab gorilla cages (guaranteed to not throw bottles-$50each) .
i've seen the bontrager version, even though it's carbon, the clamping mechanism
on the thing makes it one of the heaviest saddle mounts on the market.  very
utilitarian though, that you can hook up all sorts of stuff to it.

art mata
"I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
–Sophocles

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups. com, George Awai <gawai2007@. ..> wrote:
>
> Hey Art,
>
> I used a Profile Design on my bike and it works well.   I'm not sure about the
tab or snapped issue you mention.  I'm assuming that
> you are referring to the large O-ring that goes around the whole cage.  I
noticed that some people mention that their leg hits the cage but I set mine all
the way to the top or the base of the seat post and don't have a problem with
that setting. After about two years the O-ring did snap.  This piece is
important to keep tension on the water bottle or your bottles will fly out if
you hit a hard bump. I called Profile and they sent me an O-ring set that should
last for some time.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone has used the Bontrager saddle mounted cage?  Like to
know how that one is.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> G
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: art <faboo3@...>
> To: yfoil@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 6:14:31 PM
> Subject: [yfoil] Re: saddle mounted bottle cages
>
>
> whoops...
> forgot to add, i'm using the old bottle cages that were with the profile
design model.  they don't have the usual tabs that most cages have at the top of
the cage.
>
> art mata
> "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> â€"Sophocles
>
> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. com, "art" <faboo3@> wrote:
> >
> > anyone here other than me use the saddle mounted bottle cages?  i've gone
from the profile design model (which snapped halfway through a ride), to an
x-lab model which is working well for me.  the problem i'm having is that i keep
throwing my bottles everytime i hit a good enough bump or dip.  this only
happens with a full bottle. is anyone else having this problem?  if not, tell me
what you're doing right, that way i can copy you.
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > art mata
> > "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> > â€"Sophocles
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

George
the profile design system i had was the one that clamps onto the rear of the
saddle rails.  mine snapped with two full 24oz bottles attached at the thinnest
part of the system (not the bottle cage themselves)between the clamping device
and the angle joint.
i'm looking to try and save me some serious mula by not having to resort to
purchasing the x-lab gorilla cages (guaranteed to not throw bottles-$50each).
i've seen the bontrager version, even though it's carbon, the clamping mechanism
on the thing makes it one of the heaviest saddle mounts on the market.  very
utilitarian though, that you can hook up all sorts of stuff to it.

art mata
"I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
–Sophocles

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, George Awai <gawai2007@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Art,
>
> I used a Profile Design on my bike and it works well.   I'm not sure about the
tab or snapped issue you mention.  I'm assuming that
> you are referring to the large O-ring that goes around the whole cage.  I
noticed that some people mention that their leg hits the cage but I set mine all
the way to the top or the base of the seat post and don't have a problem with
that setting. After about two years the O-ring did snap.  This piece is
important to keep tension on the water bottle or your bottles will fly out if
you hit a hard bump. I called Profile and they sent me an O-ring set that should
last for some time.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone has used the Bontrager saddle mounted cage?  Like to
know how that one is.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> G
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: art <faboo3@...>
> To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 6:14:31 PM
> Subject: [yfoil] Re: saddle mounted bottle cages
>
>
> whoops...
> forgot to add, i'm using the old bottle cages that were with the profile
design model.  they don't have the usual tabs that most cages have at the top of
the cage.
>
> art mata
> "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> â€"Sophocles
>
> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. com, "art" <faboo3@> wrote:
> >
> > anyone here other than me use the saddle mounted bottle cages?  i've gone
from the profile design model (which snapped halfway through a ride), to an
x-lab model which is working well for me.  the problem i'm having is that i keep
throwing my bottles everytime i hit a good enough bump or dip.  this only
happens with a full bottle. is anyone else having this problem?  if not, tell me
what you're doing right, that way i can copy you.
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > art mata
> > "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> > â€"Sophocles
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hey Art,

I used a Profile Design on my bike and it works well.   I'm not sure about the
tab or snapped issue you mention.  I'm assuming that
you are referring to the large O-ring that goes around the whole cage.  I
noticed that some people mention that their leg hits the cage but I set mine all
the way to the top or the base of the seat post and don't have a problem with
that setting. After about two years the O-ring did snap.  This piece is
important to keep tension on the water bottle or your bottles will fly out if
you hit a hard bump. I called Profile and they sent me an O-ring set that should
last for some time.

I'm wondering if anyone has used the Bontrager saddle mounted cage?  Like to
know how that one is.

Hope that helps.

G


________________________________
From: art <faboo3@...>
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 6:14:31 PM
Subject: [yfoil] Re: saddle mounted bottle cages


whoops...
forgot to add, i'm using the old bottle cages that were with the profile design
model.  they don't have the usual tabs that most cages have at the top of the
cage.

art mata
"I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
–Sophocles

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups. com, "art" <faboo3@...> wrote:
>
> anyone here other than me use the saddle mounted bottle cages?  i've gone from
the profile design model (which snapped halfway through a ride), to an x-lab
model which is working well for me.  the problem i'm having is that i keep
throwing my bottles everytime i hit a good enough bump or dip.  this only
happens with a full bottle. is anyone else having this problem?  if not, tell me
what you're doing right, that way i can copy you.
>
> thanks!
>
> art mata
> "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> –Sophocles
>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

whoops...
forgot to add, i'm using the old bottle cages that were with the profile design
model.  they don't have the usual tabs that most cages have at the top of the
cage.

art mata
"I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
–Sophocles

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "art" <faboo3@...> wrote:
>
> anyone here other than me use the saddle mounted bottle cages?  i've gone from
the profile design model (which snapped halfway through a ride), to an x-lab
model which is working well for me.  the problem i'm having is that i keep
throwing my bottles everytime i hit a good enough bump or dip.  this only
happens with a full bottle. is anyone else having this problem?  if not, tell me
what you're doing right, that way i can copy you.
>
> thanks!
>
> art mata
> "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> –Sophocles
>

anyone here other than me use the saddle mounted bottle cages?  i've gone from
the profile design model (which snapped halfway through a ride), to an x-lab
model which is working well for me.  the problem i'm having is that i keep
throwing my bottles everytime i hit a good enough bump or dip.  this only
happens with a full bottle. is anyone else having this problem?  if not, tell me
what you're doing right, that way i can copy you.

thanks!

art mata
"I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
–Sophocles

I am looking for a 51cm.  Please drop me a line if you can point me to one.  It
will be repainted, so paint condition is not important, just no cracks.

Scott Buchanan
PDQ Technology Solutions
voice 941.235.7371 | 7 fax 866.521.0869
Microsoft  Small Business  Specialist
a Suncoast Business Technologies Partner
We manage IT

From: yfoil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yfoil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:30 AM
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yfoil] Looking for a 56cm Y-foil



If anyone knows where I can find a 56 frameset in OK condition, please let
me know. Two of us ride for the Army Tri Club. He has a Y-Foil painted in
Army colors and I would like to do the same.

Thanks.

Rob

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Can you send me some pix.  I would like to paint a Y foil in some sort of Army
theme.

Scott Buchanan
PDQ Technology Solutions
voice 941.235.7371 | 7 fax 866.521.0869
Microsoft  Small Business  Specialist
a Suncoast Business Technologies Partner
We manage IT

From: yfoil@yahoogroups.com [mailto:yfoil@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:30 AM
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yfoil] Looking for a 56cm Y-foil



If anyone knows where I can find a 56 frameset in OK condition, please let
me know. Two of us ride for the Army Tri Club. He has a Y-Foil painted in
Army colors and I would like to do the same.

Thanks.

Rob

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If anyone knows where I can find a 56 frameset in OK condition, please let
me know.  Two of us ride for the Army Tri Club.  He has a Y-Foil painted in
Army colors and I would like to do the same.



Thanks.



Rob



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On the INSIDE potion of the rear dropouts. You have to take the rear wheel off
to see it.




________________________________
From: Scott Donnelly <rsdonnelly04@...>
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 5:14:38 PM
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Serial Number


on the rear aluminum drop out as I recall.... not sure which side....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, drdan976 <DrDan976@aol. com> wrote:

From: drdan976 <DrDan976@aol. com>
Subject: [yfoil] Serial Number
To: yfoil@yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 5:41 PM



Can anyone point me to where I can locate the serial number on my Trek Y66? I am
trying to get Trek to warranty a crack in the frame, but they are asking for the
serial number. I look up and down and couldn't find it.

-dan

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on the rear aluminum drop out as I recall.... not sure which side....

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, drdan976 <DrDan976@...> wrote:


From: drdan976 <DrDan976@...>
Subject: [yfoil] Serial Number
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 5:41 PM


 



Can anyone point me to where I can locate the serial number on my Trek Y66? I am
trying to get Trek to warranty a crack in the frame, but they are asking for the
serial number. I look up and down and couldn't find it.

-dan











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Can anyone point me to where I can locate the serial number on my Trek Y66?  I
am trying to get Trek to warranty a crack in the frame, but they are asking for
the serial number.  I look up and down and couldn't find it.

-dan

sorry to hear of your loss. I wasn't aware that owners actually leave these
beauties locked up on a side walk.
Good luck and hope you find it!!

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "solstice.system" <lyle@...> wrote:
>
> Aaargh!
>
> After riding support for my friend Bruce and other friends who were running
the NYC marathon to raise charity money yesterday, my son and I locked our bikes
up just outside the picture window of the restaurant we were eating at.
>
> I guess we got too engrossed in the great Indian food - I looked around and my
beloved Y-foil had disappeared!  My son's Cannondale was still there, unlocked
but unmolested.
>
> The cable had been cut.  Must have been done very fast.  Note to self - when I
can afford to buy a bike again, use location-appropriate theft countermeasures.
>
> If anyone sees this bike on ebay or Craig's list soon, please give me a
heads-up:
>
> Y66 Inkwell blue
> Thompson seat post
> EA50 stem
> original Ultegra components
> Bontrager tires
> Sigma computer with heart rate (I JUST installed that, dammit!)
>
> I loved that bike.
>
> Damn.
>

Hey Tony,
Enjoy the coffee:)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Bucher" <anthonybucher@...>
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2009 11:45:18 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: [yfoil] Re: Oh dear, what a way to start.......


*tony is misunderstood again*



"...for THE ever..."



Coffee time Gene :)



To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
From: glzl@...
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:37:48 +0000
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Oh dear, what a way to start.......





Hey Anthony,
What do you mean a search goes on forever?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Bucher" <anthonybucher@...>
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2009 9:42:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: [yfoil] Re: Oh dear, what a way to start.......

Hopefully to a good rider.

That's why I gave a future heads up.

But Gene will now know that a search goes on for the ever elusive bike :)

To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
From: peterofdevon@...
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:03:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Oh dear, what a way to start.......

The front cover beauty sold within 24 hours.

I buy vintage audio gear and I've learned that if you hesitate, even by a
couple hours, you'll miss it.

Peter

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