What is the difference between a y-foil 66 and a y-foil 77. Thank you.

The cost of raam is very high.   John budgeted something like 4 grand
just for fuel, and I'm sure he was in the 10k range, with hotels, air
flight, etc for the crew.  An 8 person team multiplies that.  John was
using 2 minivans and a crew of 5.  You can probably figure 15-20K to do
the race with an 8 man team, as you'll want an RV, and probably 2
pace/leapfrog vehicles.  The good thing is as an 8 man, the team can
also be the crew when they're off bike.

Mark

James Peeples wrote:
> I'd like that very much, and I will connect with Bob.  If you'd want to check
out ride photos, webcam videos of this year's event, see
www.raceacrossamerica.org.  Strangely, it's hard to find out much about it
anyplace else.
>
>   Ironically, I rode out past where Bob lives on the fabulous W&OD trail
yesterday for a good 30-miler and may do so again today.  We'll connect and
start a dialogue on this & keep you all posted.
>
>   As for RAAM, the devil's in the details and the details involve M-O-N-E-Y! 
Sometimes lots of it.  The larger your team, the greater your cost for
enrollment, a multi-vehicle support team, gasoline or diesel fuel (next year,
we'd be looking to supply ethanol and biodiesel for all support vehicles
coast-to-coast, courtesy of ACORE, I hope).
>
>   One RAAM staff guy told me that a team from Sweden who did RAAM this year
spent north of $40K to participate!
>
>   A domestic team would not need that much, but there will be costs, and that
means we'd need sponsors.
>
>   How about it, Y-Foilers?  Any ideas about potential sponsors?  Don't suggest
bike manufacturers who I was told (off the record by RAAM folks) are a bunch of
cheapskates.  Maybe you've heard.
>
>   Anyway, let's discuss.
>
>   Jim
>

Yup, UCI kills innovation. They started that in 1934, with Francis
Faure.  We're lucky they allowed multiple gears, or we'd all be riding
fixies.  The Y-foil along with a ton of other advanced designs have been
"nixed" by the UCI in the name of safety or an unfair advantage.  Other
than local stuff, you're pretty much screwed at the national level.
UMCA is one of the few venues you can see an upright diamond frame, a
Y-Foil and a recumbent all at the same starting line with the same goal.
I did notice the Y-foil this year.  I was following John Schlitter on
his Bacchetta recumbent, he's one of the founders of the company and
nothing promotes your product more than racing it in something like
RAAM.   Oh, other than the UMCA, you can race a Y-Foil at the
international level in IHPVA events.  :)

Mark



Bob Kenner wrote:
> James,
>
> Strange we haven't met; or have we and I just forgot.  I have 5 Y-foils
> and ride them out of Vienna, VA regularly.  I am quite familiar with
> RAAM including many of the champions in the event and would be
> interested in discussing an 8-person RAAM on Y-Foils with you, or just
> riding out the W & OD...  In fact, I am going to race one of my Y-Foils
> in tomorrow's Virginia State Senior TT championship in Stony Creek.  The
> bike is illegal, of course, for any UCI sanctioned event, but not for
> local or state USA Cycling events --- other than National Championships
> --- where, for the first year,( ever, the Y-Foil is illegal.
>
> Hope to see you on the trail.
>
> Bob Kenner
> (703) 626-2008 mobile

Bob
would it be too much to ask if you can come visit Trek San Diego's
south county store in chula vista that weekend also?  that happens to
be the store i work at.  in fact, i was getting set on presenting a
proposal to the store owner (Mike Olson), on helping out the team
(possible sponsorship?)
i would love to get a gang of us to ride the coast, but i work
weekends for trek.  thanks for the invite though.  a ride on the
strand around coronado sounds cool also as long as its a really early
ride so that i can make it to work on time.
art

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, Bob Kenner <bkenner@...> wrote:
>
> Wakko,
>
> Great work, already.
>
> I'm in San Diego, CA this week (until 3JULY08) and plan to drop
into the
> TREK Super Bike store Kearny Mesa, Saturday to discuss the prospect
of
> RAAM if you are working.  Or, better yet a ride on Y-Foils Sunday.
I
> plan a 60 - 70 miler up and down the coast.  Let me know if you can
make
> it.  I'll be riding Saturday morning in Coronado.
>
> Bob (swiftsurebob) Kenner
> 703 626-2008
>
> wakko warner wrote:
> > okay guys.
> > i contacted Larry Black, owner of Mt Airy Bicycles about the
> > possibility of either a 4- or 8-person mixed team to race next
year's
> > RAAM.  he's in.  along with one other racer.
> > i'm in.  i've got one backer so far, and am going to chase one
other.
> > i've chosen "SPORTS for Exceptional Athletes" (s4ea.com) as my
> > organization to race for.
> > anyone else up for racing across america?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Wakko,

Great work, already.

I'm in San Diego, CA this week (until 3JULY08) and plan to drop into the
TREK Super Bike store Kearny Mesa, Saturday to discuss the prospect of
RAAM if you are working.  Or, better yet a ride on Y-Foils Sunday.  I
plan a 60 - 70 miler up and down the coast.  Let me know if you can make
it.  I'll be riding Saturday morning in Coronado.

Bob (swiftsurebob) Kenner
703 626-2008

wakko warner wrote:
> okay guys.
> i contacted Larry Black, owner of Mt Airy Bicycles about the
> possibility of either a 4- or 8-person mixed team to race next year's
> RAAM.  he's in.  along with one other racer.
> i'm in.  i've got one backer so far, and am going to chase one other.
> i've chosen "SPORTS for Exceptional Athletes" (s4ea.com) as my
> organization to race for.
> anyone else up for racing across america?
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yeah I believe your correct. I think he placed 3rd the year before, then won it.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "johnorear" <johno@...>
Actually, I believe RAAM individual was won by a guy on a gold Foil a
couple of years back.

Anyone remember who that was?

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "wakko warner" <faboo3@...> wrote:
>
>
> so has anyone else put any thought into this?
> art
>
> "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> –Sophocles
>
>
> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, John Ordway <johno281@> wrote:
> >
> > The link below should be helpfull for RAM info
> > John O
> > http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/
> >
> > --- On Sat, 6/21/08, James Peeples james.peeples@ wrote:
> >
> > From: James Peeples james.peeples@
> > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Race Across America (RAAM)
> > To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 10:17 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd like that very much, and I will connect with Bob. If you'd want to
> check out ride photos, webcam videos of this year's event, see
> www.raceacrossameri ca.org. Strangely, it's hard to find out much about
> it anyplace else.
> >
> > Ironically, I rode out past where Bob lives on the fabulous W&OD trail
> yesterday for a good 30-miler and may do so again today. We'll connect
> and start a dialogue on this & keep you all posted.
> >
> > As for RAAM, the devil's in the details and the details involve
> M-O-N-E-Y! Sometimes lots of it. The larger your team, the greater your
> cost for enrollment, a multi-vehicle support team, gasoline or diesel
> fuel (next year, we'd be looking to supply ethanol and biodiesel for all
> support vehicles coast-to-coast, courtesy of ACORE, I hope).
> >
> > One RAAM staff guy told me that a team from Sweden who did RAAM this
> year spent north of $40K to participate!
> >
> > A domestic team would not need that much, but there will be costs, and
> that means we'd need sponsors.
> >
> > How about it, Y-Foilers? Any ideas about potential sponsors? Don't
> suggest bike manufacturers who I was told (off the record by RAAM folks)
> are a bunch of cheapskates. Maybe you've heard.
> >
> > Anyway, let's discuss.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > glzl@comcast. net wrote:
> > Bob&James,
> > If you're able to put this together and ride the raam I most
> defininetly would want pictures of it. I have long wanted a group of
> rides" all " on y foils for our cover page. Sounds like fun if your into
> real long distance riding!
> > Happy trails, Gene
> > ------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
> > From: Bob Kenner bkenner@rdsi. com>
> > > James,
> > >
> > > Strange we haven't met; or have we and I just forgot. I have 5
> Y-foils
> > > and ride them out of Vienna, VA regularly. I am quite familiar with
> > > RAAM including many of the champions in the event and would be
> > > interested in discussing an 8-person RAAM on Y-Foils with you, or
> just
> > > riding out the W & OD... In fact, I am going to race one of my
> Y-Foils
> > > in tomorrow's Virginia State Senior TT championship in Stony Creek.
> The
> > > bike is illegal, of course, for any UCI sanctioned event, but not
> for
> > > local or state USA Cycling events --- other than National
> Championships
> > > --- where, for the first year,( ever, the Y-Foil is illegal.
> > >
> > > Hope to see you on the trail.
> > >
> > > Bob Kenner
> > > (703) 626-2008 mobile
> > >
> > > James Peeples wrote:
> > > > I don't know how familiar you folks are with this event
> > > (www.raceacrossamer ica.org), which concludes today in Annapolis,
> MD, but it is
> > > most impressive, indeed.
> > > >
> > > > It was my honor to represent the American Council on Renewable
> Energy
> > > (ACORE), of which I am a member and they are a sponsor of RAAM this
> year, at a
> > > closing reception last evening. Frankly, it is one of the toughest
> athletic
> > > events around that no one seems to have heard anything about.
> > > >
> > > > That's likely to change. One way that will happen is for cyclcist
> like us
> > > to learn more about it, talk it up, and participate which I plan to
> do next
> > > year.
> > > >
> > > > I had my Y-Foil 66 with me last night which caught the attention
> of a number
> > > of the riders and support team, a bit to my embarrassment since they
> had just
> > > spent 8 - 9 days crossing the country and were pretty road weary. In
> addition I
> > > met a guy whose name I did not get who owns what has been described
> as the most
> > > unique bike shop in the U.S., in Mt. Airy, MD (http://www.bike123.
> com).
> > > >
> > > > Turns out, he's a huge Y fan and has a number of Y frames and
> finished bikes
> > > at his shop, one of which is on display as if in a museum.
> > > >
> > > > Long story short, he's very interested in putting together a 4- or
> 8-person
> > > team of Y-Foilers to do the race next year, from someplace in
> California to
> > > Annapolis, MD. I like the idea, too -- how about you?
> > > >
> > > > It looks like quite a commitment of time and money, but if you
> like
> > > challenges, this looks like it would be lots of fun.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > James Peeples
> > > > 6530 Dearborn Drive
> > > > Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> > > > (703) 256-4475 (home)
> > > > (703) 256-4497 (office)
> > > > (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > James Peeples
> > 6530 Dearborn Drive
> > Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> > (703) 256-4475 (home)
> > (703) 256-4497 (office)
> > (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Actually, I believe RAAM individual was won by a guy on a gold Foil a
couple of years back.

Anyone remember who that was?

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "wakko warner" <faboo3@...> wrote:
>
>
> so has anyone else put any thought into this?
> art
>
> "I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
> –Sophocles
>
>
> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, John Ordway <johno281@> wrote:
> >
> > The link below should be helpfull for RAM info
> > John O
> > http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/
> >
> > --- On Sat, 6/21/08, James Peeples james.peeples@ wrote:
> >
> > From: James Peeples james.peeples@
> > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Race Across America (RAAM)
> > To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 10:17 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd like that very much, and I will connect with Bob. If you'd want to
> check out ride photos, webcam videos of this year's event, see
> www.raceacrossameri ca.org. Strangely, it's hard to find out much about
> it anyplace else.
> >
> > Ironically, I rode out past where Bob lives on the fabulous W&OD trail
> yesterday for a good 30-miler and may do so again today. We'll connect
> and start a dialogue on this & keep you all posted.
> >
> > As for RAAM, the devil's in the details and the details involve
> M-O-N-E-Y! Sometimes lots of it. The larger your team, the greater your
> cost for enrollment, a multi-vehicle support team, gasoline or diesel
> fuel (next year, we'd be looking to supply ethanol and biodiesel for all
> support vehicles coast-to-coast, courtesy of ACORE, I hope).
> >
> > One RAAM staff guy told me that a team from Sweden who did RAAM this
> year spent north of $40K to participate!
> >
> > A domestic team would not need that much, but there will be costs, and
> that means we'd need sponsors.
> >
> > How about it, Y-Foilers? Any ideas about potential sponsors? Don't
> suggest bike manufacturers who I was told (off the record by RAAM folks)
> are a bunch of cheapskates. Maybe you've heard.
> >
> > Anyway, let's discuss.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > glzl@comcast. net wrote:
> > Bob&James,
> > If you're able to put this together and ride the raam I most
> defininetly would want pictures of it. I have long wanted a group of
> rides" all " on y foils for our cover page. Sounds like fun if your into
> real long distance riding!
> > Happy trails, Gene
> > ------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
> > From: Bob Kenner bkenner@rdsi. com>
> > > James,
> > >
> > > Strange we haven't met; or have we and I just forgot. I have 5
> Y-foils
> > > and ride them out of Vienna, VA regularly. I am quite familiar with
> > > RAAM including many of the champions in the event and would be
> > > interested in discussing an 8-person RAAM on Y-Foils with you, or
> just
> > > riding out the W & OD... In fact, I am going to race one of my
> Y-Foils
> > > in tomorrow's Virginia State Senior TT championship in Stony Creek.
> The
> > > bike is illegal, of course, for any UCI sanctioned event, but not
> for
> > > local or state USA Cycling events --- other than National
> Championships
> > > --- where, for the first year,( ever, the Y-Foil is illegal.
> > >
> > > Hope to see you on the trail.
> > >
> > > Bob Kenner
> > > (703) 626-2008 mobile
> > >
> > > James Peeples wrote:
> > > > I don't know how familiar you folks are with this event
> > > (www.raceacrossamer ica.org), which concludes today in Annapolis,
> MD, but it is
> > > most impressive, indeed.
> > > >
> > > > It was my honor to represent the American Council on Renewable
> Energy
> > > (ACORE), of which I am a member and they are a sponsor of RAAM this
> year, at a
> > > closing reception last evening. Frankly, it is one of the toughest
> athletic
> > > events around that no one seems to have heard anything about.
> > > >
> > > > That's likely to change. One way that will happen is for cyclcist
> like us
> > > to learn more about it, talk it up, and participate which I plan to
> do next
> > > year.
> > > >
> > > > I had my Y-Foil 66 with me last night which caught the attention
> of a number
> > > of the riders and support team, a bit to my embarrassment since they
> had just
> > > spent 8 - 9 days crossing the country and were pretty road weary. In
> addition I
> > > met a guy whose name I did not get who owns what has been described
> as the most
> > > unique bike shop in the U.S., in Mt. Airy, MD (http://www.bike123.
> com).
> > > >
> > > > Turns out, he's a huge Y fan and has a number of Y frames and
> finished bikes
> > > at his shop, one of which is on display as if in a museum.
> > > >
> > > > Long story short, he's very interested in putting together a 4- or
> 8-person
> > > team of Y-Foilers to do the race next year, from someplace in
> California to
> > > Annapolis, MD. I like the idea, too -- how about you?
> > > >
> > > > It looks like quite a commitment of time and money, but if you
> like
> > > challenges, this looks like it would be lots of fun.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > James Peeples
> > > > 6530 Dearborn Drive
> > > > Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> > > > (703) 256-4475 (home)
> > > > (703) 256-4497 (office)
> > > > (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > James Peeples
> > 6530 Dearborn Drive
> > Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> > (703) 256-4475 (home)
> > (703) 256-4497 (office)
> > (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

okay guys.
i contacted Larry Black, owner of Mt Airy Bicycles about the
possibility of either a 4- or 8-person mixed team to race next year's
RAAM.  he's in.  along with one other racer.
i'm in.  i've got one backer so far, and am going to chase one other.
i've chosen "SPORTS for Exceptional Athletes" (s4ea.com) as my
organization to race for.
anyone else up for racing across america?

Chris,
  Thanks I'll pass it on.
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Hatter Chris <hmhhhdirtbag@...>
> Since he is running with an 8 speed stack all he has to do is change out the
> cassette and shifters. The deraileur will work with the 9 speed stack, he may
> have to change out the pulleys on the deraileur for the 9 speed chain.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Gene Richardson <glzl@...>
> To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:26:36 PM
> Subject: [yfoil] A ? about shifters and derailleurs.
>
>
> Group,
> Hey I have a question for you. My father in law is in the process of
> changing over a tri bike to a road bike(a soft ride) The bike is
> currently set up as a 8spd, with shimano 600 rear derailleur. He is
> getting ready to change over to STI shifting and has 9 spd ultegra
> shifters. Is this possible? Calling on all you experts. Thanks, Gene
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Since he is running with an 8 speed stack all he has to do is change out the
cassette and shifters. The deraileur will work with the 9 speed stack, he may
have to change out the pulleys on the deraileur for the 9 speed chain.


----- Original Message ----
From: Gene Richardson <glzl@...>
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:26:36 PM
Subject: [yfoil] A ? about shifters and derailleurs.


Group,
Hey I have a question for you. My father in law is in the process of
changing over a tri bike to a road bike(a soft ride) The bike is
currently set up as a 8spd, with shimano 600 rear derailleur. He is
getting ready to change over to STI shifting and has 9 spd ultegra
shifters. Is this possible? Calling on all you experts. Thanks, Gene






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Group,
  Hey I have a question for you. My father in law is in the process of
changing over a tri bike to a road bike(a soft ride) The bike is
currently set up as a 8spd, with shimano 600 rear derailleur. He is
getting ready to change over to STI shifting and has 9 spd ultegra
shifters. Is this possible? Calling on all you experts. Thanks, Gene

so has anyone else put any thought into this?
art

"I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating"
–Sophocles


--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, John Ordway <johno281@...> wrote:
>
> The link below should be helpfull for RAM info
> John O
> http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/
>
> --- On Sat, 6/21/08, James Peeples james.peeples@... wrote:
>
> From: James Peeples james.peeples@...
> Subject: Re: [yfoil] Race Across America (RAAM)
> To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 10:17 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'd like that very much, and I will connect with Bob. If you'd want to
check out ride photos, webcam videos of this year's event, see
www.raceacrossameri ca.org. Strangely, it's hard to find out much about
it anyplace else.
>
> Ironically, I rode out past where Bob lives on the fabulous W&OD trail
yesterday for a good 30-miler and may do so again today. We'll connect
and start a dialogue on this & keep you all posted.
>
> As for RAAM, the devil's in the details and the details involve
M-O-N-E-Y! Sometimes lots of it. The larger your team, the greater your
cost for enrollment, a multi-vehicle support team, gasoline or diesel
fuel (next year, we'd be looking to supply ethanol and biodiesel for all
support vehicles coast-to-coast, courtesy of ACORE, I hope).
>
> One RAAM staff guy told me that a team from Sweden who did RAAM this
year spent north of $40K to participate!
>
> A domestic team would not need that much, but there will be costs, and
that means we'd need sponsors.
>
> How about it, Y-Foilers? Any ideas about potential sponsors? Don't
suggest bike manufacturers who I was told (off the record by RAAM folks)
are a bunch of cheapskates. Maybe you've heard.
>
> Anyway, let's discuss.
>
> Jim
>
>
> glzl@comcast. net wrote:
> Bob&James,
> If you're able to put this together and ride the raam I most
defininetly would want pictures of it. I have long wanted a group of
rides" all " on y foils for our cover page. Sounds like fun if your into
real long distance riding!
> Happy trails, Gene
> ------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
> From: Bob Kenner bkenner@rdsi. com>
> > James,
> >
> > Strange we haven't met; or have we and I just forgot. I have 5
Y-foils
> > and ride them out of Vienna, VA regularly. I am quite familiar with
> > RAAM including many of the champions in the event and would be
> > interested in discussing an 8-person RAAM on Y-Foils with you, or
just
> > riding out the W & OD... In fact, I am going to race one of my
Y-Foils
> > in tomorrow's Virginia State Senior TT championship in Stony Creek.
The
> > bike is illegal, of course, for any UCI sanctioned event, but not
for
> > local or state USA Cycling events --- other than National
Championships
> > --- where, for the first year,( ever, the Y-Foil is illegal.
> >
> > Hope to see you on the trail.
> >
> > Bob Kenner
> > (703) 626-2008 mobile
> >
> > James Peeples wrote:
> > > I don't know how familiar you folks are with this event
> > (www.raceacrossamer ica.org), which concludes today in Annapolis,
MD, but it is
> > most impressive, indeed.
> > >
> > > It was my honor to represent the American Council on Renewable
Energy
> > (ACORE), of which I am a member and they are a sponsor of RAAM this
year, at a
> > closing reception last evening. Frankly, it is one of the toughest
athletic
> > events around that no one seems to have heard anything about.
> > >
> > > That's likely to change. One way that will happen is for cyclcist
like us
> > to learn more about it, talk it up, and participate which I plan to
do next
> > year.
> > >
> > > I had my Y-Foil 66 with me last night which caught the attention
of a number
> > of the riders and support team, a bit to my embarrassment since they
had just
> > spent 8 - 9 days crossing the country and were pretty road weary. In
addition I
> > met a guy whose name I did not get who owns what has been described
as the most
> > unique bike shop in the U.S., in Mt. Airy, MD (http://www.bike123.
com).
> > >
> > > Turns out, he's a huge Y fan and has a number of Y frames and
finished bikes
> > at his shop, one of which is on display as if in a museum.
> > >
> > > Long story short, he's very interested in putting together a 4- or
8-person
> > team of Y-Foilers to do the race next year, from someplace in
California to
> > Annapolis, MD. I like the idea, too -- how about you?
> > >
> > > It looks like quite a commitment of time and money, but if you
like
> > challenges, this looks like it would be lots of fun.
> > >
> > >
> > > James Peeples
> > > 6530 Dearborn Drive
> > > Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> > > (703) 256-4475 (home)
> > > (703) 256-4497 (office)
> > > (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> James Peeples
> 6530 Dearborn Drive
> Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> (703) 256-4475 (home)
> (703) 256-4497 (office)
> (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hey group,
  You'd think these new members would read the over page and realize
this forum doesn't want these types of emails posted. I removed this
new member.
                                 Happy trails,
                                    Gene

I was sent another excellent link by my friend. This is a link to a
NEW FREEBIE PAGE for this week so I thought I would,  share it with
the group...enjoy!

The link goes to a web page where you can collect TONS of items for
FREE! There is so much on offer that its definately worth the visit.
Keep your eyes open for new freebie pages, they post them each week!

http://freebiesweekly.blogspot.com/2008_06_22_archive.html

When you have had your freebies, be nice to your family and friends
and pass on the link above, like I did!

Take care and have a great week!

The link below should be helpfull for RAM info
John O
http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/

--- On Sat, 6/21/08, James Peeples <james.peeples@...> wrote:

From: James Peeples <james.peeples@...>
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Race Across America (RAAM)
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 10:17 AM






I'd like that very much, and I will connect with Bob. If you'd want to check out
ride photos, webcam videos of this year's event, see www.raceacrossameri ca.org.
Strangely, it's hard to find out much about it anyplace else.

Ironically, I rode out past where Bob lives on the fabulous W&OD trail yesterday
for a good 30-miler and may do so again today. We'll connect and start a
dialogue on this & keep you all posted.

As for RAAM, the devil's in the details and the details involve M-O-N-E-Y!
Sometimes lots of it. The larger your team, the greater your cost for
enrollment, a multi-vehicle support team, gasoline or diesel fuel (next year,
we'd be looking to supply ethanol and biodiesel for all support vehicles
coast-to-coast, courtesy of ACORE, I hope).

One RAAM staff guy told me that a team from Sweden who did RAAM this year spent
north of $40K to participate!

A domestic team would not need that much, but there will be costs, and that
means we'd need sponsors.

How about it, Y-Foilers? Any ideas about potential sponsors? Don't suggest bike
manufacturers who I was told (off the record by RAAM folks) are a bunch of
cheapskates. Maybe you've heard.

Anyway, let's discuss.

Jim


glzl@comcast. net wrote:
Bob&James,
If you're able to put this together and ride the raam I most defininetly would
want pictures of it. I have long wanted a group of rides" all " on y foils for
our cover page. Sounds like fun if your into real long distance riding!
Happy trails, Gene
------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
From: Bob Kenner <bkenner@rdsi. com>
> James,
>
> Strange we haven't met; or have we and I just forgot. I have 5 Y-foils
> and ride them out of Vienna, VA regularly. I am quite familiar with
> RAAM including many of the champions in the event and would be
> interested in discussing an 8-person RAAM on Y-Foils with you, or just
> riding out the W & OD... In fact, I am going to race one of my Y-Foils
> in tomorrow's Virginia State Senior TT championship in Stony Creek. The
> bike is illegal, of course, for any UCI sanctioned event, but not for
> local or state USA Cycling events --- other than National Championships
> --- where, for the first year,( ever, the Y-Foil is illegal.
>
> Hope to see you on the trail.
>
> Bob Kenner
> (703) 626-2008 mobile
>
> James Peeples wrote:
> > I don't know how familiar you folks are with this event
> (www.raceacrossamer ica.org), which concludes today in Annapolis, MD, but it
is
> most impressive, indeed.
> >
> > It was my honor to represent the American Council on Renewable Energy
> (ACORE), of which I am a member and they are a sponsor of RAAM this year, at a
> closing reception last evening. Frankly, it is one of the toughest athletic
> events around that no one seems to have heard anything about.
> >
> > That's likely to change. One way that will happen is for cyclcist like us
> to learn more about it, talk it up, and participate which I plan to do next
> year.
> >
> > I had my Y-Foil 66 with me last night which caught the attention of a number
> of the riders and support team, a bit to my embarrassment since they had just
> spent 8 - 9 days crossing the country and were pretty road weary. In addition
I
> met a guy whose name I did not get who owns what has been described as the
most
> unique bike shop in the U.S., in Mt. Airy, MD (http://www.bike123. com).
> >
> > Turns out, he's a huge Y fan and has a number of Y frames and finished bikes
> at his shop, one of which is on display as if in a museum.
> >
> > Long story short, he's very interested in putting together a 4- or 8-person
> team of Y-Foilers to do the race next year, from someplace in California to
> Annapolis, MD. I like the idea, too -- how about you?
> >
> > It looks like quite a commitment of time and money, but if you like
> challenges, this looks like it would be lots of fun.
> >
> >
> > James Peeples
> > 6530 Dearborn Drive
> > Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> > (703) 256-4475 (home)
> > (703) 256-4497 (office)
> > (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

James Peeples
6530 Dearborn Drive
Falls Church, Virginia 22044
(703) 256-4475 (home)
(703) 256-4497 (office)
(703) 628-1503 (mobile)


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'd like that very much, and I will connect with Bob.  If you'd want to check
out ride photos, webcam videos of this year's event, see
www.raceacrossamerica.org.  Strangely, it's hard to find out much about it
anyplace else.

   Ironically, I rode out past where Bob lives on the fabulous W&OD trail
yesterday for a good 30-miler and may do so again today.  We'll connect and
start a dialogue on this & keep you all posted.

   As for RAAM, the devil's in the details and the details involve M-O-N-E-Y! 
Sometimes lots of it.  The larger your team, the greater your cost for
enrollment, a multi-vehicle support team, gasoline or diesel fuel (next year,
we'd be looking to supply ethanol and biodiesel for all support vehicles
coast-to-coast, courtesy of ACORE, I hope).

   One RAAM staff guy told me that a team from Sweden who did RAAM this year
spent north of $40K to participate!

   A domestic team would not need that much, but there will be costs, and that
means we'd need sponsors.

   How about it, Y-Foilers?  Any ideas about potential sponsors?  Don't suggest
bike manufacturers who I was told (off the record by RAAM folks) are a bunch of
cheapskates.  Maybe you've heard.

   Anyway, let's discuss.

   Jim


glzl@... wrote:
           Bob&James,
If you're able to put this together and ride the raam I most defininetly would
want pictures of it. I have long wanted a group of rides" all " on y foils for
our cover page. Sounds like fun if your into real long distance riding!
Happy trails, Gene
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Bob Kenner <bkenner@...>
> James,
>
> Strange we haven't met; or have we and I just forgot. I have 5 Y-foils
> and ride them out of Vienna, VA regularly. I am quite familiar with
> RAAM including many of the champions in the event and would be
> interested in discussing an 8-person RAAM on Y-Foils with you, or just
> riding out the W & OD... In fact, I am going to race one of my Y-Foils
> in tomorrow's Virginia State Senior TT championship in Stony Creek. The
> bike is illegal, of course, for any UCI sanctioned event, but not for
> local or state USA Cycling events --- other than National Championships
> --- where, for the first year,( ever, the Y-Foil is illegal.
>
> Hope to see you on the trail.
>
> Bob Kenner
> (703) 626-2008 mobile
>
> James Peeples wrote:
> > I don't know how familiar you folks are with this event
> (www.raceacrossamerica.org), which concludes today in Annapolis, MD, but it is
> most impressive, indeed.
> >
> > It was my honor to represent the American Council on Renewable Energy
> (ACORE), of which I am a member and they are a sponsor of RAAM this year, at a
> closing reception last evening. Frankly, it is one of the toughest athletic
> events around that no one seems to have heard anything about.
> >
> > That's likely to change. One way that will happen is for cyclcist like us
> to learn more about it, talk it up, and participate which I plan to do next
> year.
> >
> > I had my Y-Foil 66 with me last night which caught the attention of a number
> of the riders and support team, a bit to my embarrassment since they had just
> spent 8 - 9 days crossing the country and were pretty road weary. In addition
I
> met a guy whose name I did not get who owns what has been described as the
most
> unique bike shop in the U.S., in Mt. Airy, MD (http://www.bike123.com).
> >
> > Turns out, he's a huge Y fan and has a number of Y frames and finished bikes
> at his shop, one of which is on display as if in a museum.
> >
> > Long story short, he's very interested in putting together a 4- or 8-person
> team of Y-Foilers to do the race next year, from someplace in California to
> Annapolis, MD. I like the idea, too -- how about you?
> >
> > It looks like quite a commitment of time and money, but if you like
> challenges, this looks like it would be lots of fun.
> >
> >
> > James Peeples
> > 6530 Dearborn Drive
> > Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> > (703) 256-4475 (home)
> > (703) 256-4497 (office)
> > (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






James Peeples
6530 Dearborn Drive
Falls Church, Virginia 22044
(703) 256-4475 (home)
(703) 256-4497 (office)
(703) 628-1503 (mobile)


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Bob&James,
  If you're able to put this together and ride the raam I most defininetly would
want pictures of it. I have long wanted a group of rides" all " on y foils for
our cover page. Sounds like fun if your into real long distance riding!
                                                                                           
Happy trails, Gene
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Bob Kenner <bkenner@...>
> James,
>
> Strange we haven't met; or have we and I just forgot.  I have 5 Y-foils
> and ride them out of Vienna, VA regularly.  I am quite familiar with
> RAAM including many of the champions in the event and would be
> interested in discussing an 8-person RAAM on Y-Foils with you, or just
> riding out the W & OD...  In fact, I am going to race one of my Y-Foils
> in tomorrow's Virginia State Senior TT championship in Stony Creek.  The
> bike is illegal, of course, for any UCI sanctioned event, but not for
> local or state USA Cycling events --- other than National Championships
> --- where, for the first year,( ever, the Y-Foil is illegal.
>
> Hope to see you on the trail.
>
> Bob Kenner
> (703) 626-2008 mobile
>
> James Peeples wrote:
> > I don't know how familiar you folks are with this event
> (www.raceacrossamerica.org), which concludes today in Annapolis, MD, but it is
> most impressive, indeed.
> >
> >   It was my honor to represent the American Council on Renewable Energy
> (ACORE), of which I am a member and they are a sponsor of RAAM this year, at a
> closing reception last evening.  Frankly, it is one of the toughest athletic
> events around that no one seems to have heard anything about.
> >
> >   That's likely to change.  One way that will happen is for cyclcist like us
> to learn more about it, talk it up, and participate which I plan to do next
> year.
> >
> >   I had my Y-Foil 66 with me last night which caught the attention of a
number
> of the riders and support team, a bit to my embarrassment since they had just
> spent 8 - 9 days crossing the country and were pretty road weary.  In addition
I
> met a guy whose name I did not get who owns what has been described as the
most
> unique bike shop in the U.S., in Mt. Airy, MD (http://www.bike123.com).
> >
> >   Turns out, he's a huge Y fan and has a number of Y frames and finished
bikes
> at his shop, one of which is on display as if in a museum.
> >
> >   Long story short, he's very interested in putting together a 4- or
8-person
> team of Y-Foilers to do the race next year, from someplace in California to
> Annapolis, MD.  I like the idea, too -- how about you?
> >
> >   It looks like quite a commitment of time and money, but if you like
> challenges, this looks like it would be lots of fun.
> >
> >
> > James Peeples
> > 6530 Dearborn Drive
> > Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> > (703) 256-4475 (home)
> > (703) 256-4497 (office)
> > (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

James,

Strange we haven't met; or have we and I just forgot.  I have 5 Y-foils
and ride them out of Vienna, VA regularly.  I am quite familiar with
RAAM including many of the champions in the event and would be
interested in discussing an 8-person RAAM on Y-Foils with you, or just
riding out the W & OD...  In fact, I am going to race one of my Y-Foils
in tomorrow's Virginia State Senior TT championship in Stony Creek.  The
bike is illegal, of course, for any UCI sanctioned event, but not for
local or state USA Cycling events --- other than National Championships
--- where, for the first year,( ever, the Y-Foil is illegal.

Hope to see you on the trail.

Bob Kenner
(703) 626-2008 mobile

James Peeples wrote:
> I don't know how familiar you folks are with this event
(www.raceacrossamerica.org), which concludes today in Annapolis, MD, but it is
most impressive, indeed.
>
>   It was my honor to represent the American Council on Renewable Energy
(ACORE), of which I am a member and they are a sponsor of RAAM this year, at a
closing reception last evening.  Frankly, it is one of the toughest athletic
events around that no one seems to have heard anything about.
>
>   That's likely to change.  One way that will happen is for cyclcist like us
to learn more about it, talk it up, and participate which I plan to do next
year.
>
>   I had my Y-Foil 66 with me last night which caught the attention of a number
of the riders and support team, a bit to my embarrassment since they had just
spent 8 - 9 days crossing the country and were pretty road weary.  In addition I
met a guy whose name I did not get who owns what has been described as the most
unique bike shop in the U.S., in Mt. Airy, MD (http://www.bike123.com).
>
>   Turns out, he's a huge Y fan and has a number of Y frames and finished bikes
at his shop, one of which is on display as if in a museum.
>
>   Long story short, he's very interested in putting together a 4- or 8-person
team of Y-Foilers to do the race next year, from someplace in California to
Annapolis, MD.  I like the idea, too -- how about you?
>
>   It looks like quite a commitment of time and money, but if you like
challenges, this looks like it would be lots of fun.
>
>
> James Peeples
> 6530 Dearborn Drive
> Falls Church, Virginia 22044
> (703) 256-4475 (home)
> (703) 256-4497 (office)
> (703) 628-1503 (mobile)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Gene  call me Garfield

------Original Message------
From: <glzl@...>
To: <yfoil@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2008 09:16 PM
Subject: Re: [yfoil] 2 y's for sale.

Nicholas,
  Are you saying $1000 for both? Or each? Thanks, Gene
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "onlypossibilities" <nicholas_snider@...>
> Hi all-
>
> I have 2 y foil frames for sale,
>
> 1) 54 cm 99, y77 NEVER BUILT, US postal color scheme - light blue with
> red and white accents. This was a display put away in backstock at a
> shop in chicago. I have hung on to it thinking I would build it for a
> friend, but I haven't yet. prestine. it looks brand new...because it is!
> it has a 105 threaded headset that still has factory grease coming out
> of it!
>
> 2) 56 cm 98, y66 inkwell blue - great shape. This was one I have had
> for about 5 years also on the ready to build for myself, but never
> have. This one has a silver chris king threaded headset.
>
> Both frames I will sell for $1000.00
>
>
>
>




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Hey group,
  I got a fork from our good friend Heinz after he replaced his fork
with a fancy Easton fork. I had hoped to use it for a project
forgetting that it's threaded. I'm guessing it would work for a 59cm,
may-be a 56cm. It's paint is rough but still a very usable fork. If
you're in need get back to me . Thanks, Gene

Nothing to building it up. I built my gold Foil up from a new/never
built frame back in 2002. Still going strong. Installing the BB is a
bit tricky, it's easy to cross the threads. You do need the long nuts
in order to fit the brakes. The Foil frame should come with a set, or
if they're missing (as they were with mine), SRP makes a set in titanium.

Otherwise, the toughest part is deciding how to equip it. I'm a
traditionalist, went with a Chorus 10 group, and it has held up very
well. Upgraded a few pieces over the years, but the Foil I have today
is still pretty much the bike I put together in the fall of 2002.

I still remember that first ride. Crankset was creaking, chain was
clacking from misadjustment, brakes were iffy, but when I hit that
first downhill, the Foil took off like a rocket. Once everything was
adjusted and retightened, it became a very trouble free ride. Six
years later, it's still going strong, and I just don't feel motivated
to replace it.


--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "cro2112" <cro2112@...> wrote:
>
> I just got done unpacking my new toy.  A virgin 1999 y-foil 77 in
> firemist blue.  This thing came in the origanal shipping carton. Not a
> mark on it,,,,,dam man I'm afraid to touch it let alone build it!!  And
> after I build it up will I have the balls to ride it?!  I've ridden my
> 66 through rain snow and sleet with out a thought. But this one has not
> even had a wheel mounted on it, it still has the bar code sticker on
> the bottom of it and plastic covering the Trek badge on the neck.  So
> dont be surprised if you hear me begging for advice in the future cause
> I aint never built a bike from the frame up,  and I want to do this one
> right.     Dave
>

Would love a pic oaf these, would be most appreciated.

   Rich



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I don't know how familiar you folks are with this event
(www.raceacrossamerica.org), which concludes today in Annapolis, MD, but it is
most impressive, indeed.

   It was my honor to represent the American Council on Renewable Energy (ACORE),
of which I am a member and they are a sponsor of RAAM this year, at a closing
reception last evening.  Frankly, it is one of the toughest athletic events
around that no one seems to have heard anything about.

   That's likely to change.  One way that will happen is for cyclcist like us to
learn more about it, talk it up, and participate which I plan to do next year.

   I had my Y-Foil 66 with me last night which caught the attention of a number
of the riders and support team, a bit to my embarrassment since they had just
spent 8 - 9 days crossing the country and were pretty road weary.  In addition I
met a guy whose name I did not get who owns what has been described as the most
unique bike shop in the U.S., in Mt. Airy, MD (http://www.bike123.com).

   Turns out, he's a huge Y fan and has a number of Y frames and finished bikes
at his shop, one of which is on display as if in a museum.

   Long story short, he's very interested in putting together a 4- or 8-person
team of Y-Foilers to do the race next year, from someplace in California to
Annapolis, MD.  I like the idea, too -- how about you?

   It looks like quite a commitment of time and money, but if you like
challenges, this looks like it would be lots of fun.


James Peeples
6530 Dearborn Drive
Falls Church, Virginia 22044
(703) 256-4475 (home)
(703) 256-4497 (office)
(703) 628-1503 (mobile)


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "onlypossibilities" <nicholas_snider@...>
wrote:
>
>
Hi,

I would be interested.  Can you send photos of wheels to
fsvoboda@...?

Thanks.

Fil

You are right sir!  And I cant remember being so stoked about getting a new
bike!

--- On Thu, 6/19/08, glzl@... <glzl@...> wrote:

From: glzl@... <glzl@...>
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Christmas in June
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 4:34 PM






Dave,
I'm betting you bought it off ebay huh? I suggest you email scienceman6000 he
built up a brand new gold y foil last year. He probably will be real helpful.
Congrats on your new frame. Gene

------------ -- Original message ------------ --
From: "cro2112" <cro2112@yahoo. com>
I just got done unpacking my new toy. A virgin 1999 y-foil 77 in
firemist blue. This thing came in the origanal shipping carton. Not a
mark on it,,,,,dam man I'm afraid to touch it let alone build it!! And
after I build it up will I have the balls to ride it?! I've ridden my
66 through rain snow and sleet with out a thought. But this one has not
even had a wheel mounted on it, it still has the bar code sticker on
the bottom of it and plastic covering the Trek badge on the neck. So
dont be surprised if you hear me begging for advice in the future cause
I aint never built a bike from the frame up, and I want to do this one
right. Dave

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dave,
  I'm betting you bought it off ebay huh? I suggest you email scienceman6000 he
built up a brand new gold y foil last year. He probably will be real helpful.
Congrats on your new frame. Gene

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "cro2112" <cro2112@...>
I just got done unpacking my new toy. A virgin 1999 y-foil 77 in
firemist blue. This thing came in the origanal shipping carton. Not a
mark on it,,,,,dam man I'm afraid to touch it let alone build it!! And
after I build it up will I have the balls to ride it?! I've ridden my
66 through rain snow and sleet with out a thought. But this one has not
even had a wheel mounted on it, it still has the bar code sticker on
the bottom of it and plastic covering the Trek badge on the neck. So
dont be surprised if you hear me begging for advice in the future cause
I aint never built a bike from the frame up, and I want to do this one
right. Dave




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

$1K per frame does seem incredibly high for those frames.
considering built-up bikes are going for the same.  i was hoping on
hearing around $500/frame myself.  i was actually counting the change
in my dresser to see if i had that kinda cash on hand.

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, glzl@... wrote:
>
> Nicholas,
>  Thanks for getting back to me, thats a bit too high for me for
just a frame. I wish you luck may-be someone is looking to build up a
NOS bike and your frame would be a nice compliment to the build. Gene
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "onlypossibilities" <nicholas_snider@...>
> Hi guys!
>
> I am selling the frames for $1000 each.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, glzl@ wrote:
> >
> > Nicholas,
> > Are you saying $1000 for both? Or each? Thanks, Gene
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "onlypossibilities" <nicholas_snider@>
> > > Hi all-
> > >
> > > I have 2 y foil frames for sale,
> > >
> > > 1) 54 cm 99, y77 NEVER BUILT, US postal color scheme - light
blue
> with
> > > red and white accents. This was a display put away in backstock
> at a
> > > shop in chicago. I have hung on to it thinking I would build it
> for a
> > > friend, but I haven't yet. prestine. it looks brand
new...because
> it is!
> > > it has a 105 threaded headset that still has factory grease
> coming out
> > > of it!
> > >
> > > 2) 56 cm 98, y66 inkwell blue - great shape. This was one I
have
> had
> > > for about 5 years also on the ready to build for myself, but
> never
> > > have. This one has a silver chris king threaded headset.
> > >
> > > Both frames I will sell for $1000.00
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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>

I just got done unpacking my new toy.  A virgin 1999 y-foil 77 in
firemist blue.  This thing came in the origanal shipping carton. Not a
mark on it,,,,,dam man I'm afraid to touch it let alone build it!!  And
after I build it up will I have the balls to ride it?!  I've ridden my
66 through rain snow and sleet with out a thought. But this one has not
even had a wheel mounted on it, it still has the bar code sticker on
the bottom of it and plastic covering the Trek badge on the neck.  So
dont be surprised if you hear me begging for advice in the future cause
I aint never built a bike from the frame up,  and I want to do this one
right.     Dave

Nicholas,
  Thanks for getting back to me, thats a bit too high for me for just a frame. I
wish you luck may-be someone is looking to build up a NOS bike and your frame
would be a nice compliment to the build. Gene
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "onlypossibilities" <nicholas_snider@...>
Hi guys!

I am selling the frames for $1000 each.

Thanks!

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, glzl@... wrote:
>
> Nicholas,
> Are you saying $1000 for both? Or each? Thanks, Gene
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "onlypossibilities" <nicholas_snider@...>
> > Hi all-
> >
> > I have 2 y foil frames for sale,
> >
> > 1) 54 cm 99, y77 NEVER BUILT, US postal color scheme - light blue
with
> > red and white accents. This was a display put away in backstock
at a
> > shop in chicago. I have hung on to it thinking I would build it
for a
> > friend, but I haven't yet. prestine. it looks brand new...because
it is!
> > it has a 105 threaded headset that still has factory grease
coming out
> > of it!
> >
> > 2) 56 cm 98, y66 inkwell blue - great shape. This was one I have
had
> > for about 5 years also on the ready to build for myself, but
never
> > have. This one has a silver chris king threaded headset.
> >
> > Both frames I will sell for $1000.00
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>




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Hi All-
These are Shimano hub Clinchers - 700c
I suspect they have about 1500 or so miles on them, they were my race
wheels back around 98-2000.

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "onlypossibilities" <nicholas_snider@...>
wrote:
>
> I have a set of Spinergy Rev-x wheels that I am selling as well, $400.
> They are the Super-Stiff red hub version, difficult to find. These
are
> a great compliment to any Y build! 8-9-10 speed compatable.
>