Hey all,

I put 100 miles in a week on my Y-Foil and noticed that the drive
train attracts dirt and grim extremely quickly.  My cassette, chain,
and the inside of the chain rings are all covered in dirt!

I have two brothers that usually tag alongside and ride the same
distance and trail (Kestrel RT700 and Windsor TT, the "trail" is
paved) and their drive trains are spotless.  My hypothesis is that due
to the lack of a seat tube, road dirt and grime gets flung out to the
inside of the chain rings and chain.  The chain brings the dirt all
over the cassette whenever I pedal.  This really seems to be the case
and is to me a major con of the Y-Foil design.  Does anyone notice
that the Y-Foil requires (more) cleaning than other bikes?

Hi Jim
I due not know what you mean with the message below.......I have called and left
a message.
I`m in europe till next week  ......and definitely interested in the 56 frame.
regards
Heinz
---- jim sargent <triman666@...> wrote:
> Ok cool I saw the other post first. when you get this call me and I will send
an email to the group it is sold.
>
>   801-824-9155
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: heinzpeier
>   To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 3:33 PM
>   Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
>
>
>   --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "triman666" <triman666@...> wrote:
>   >
>   > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
>   > $500.00 plus shipping.
>   > Email directly with questions.
>
>   I would like to buy the frame for $ 500.pls respnd directly to
>   hpeier@...
>   thanks
>   Heinz
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Gene
i plan on hooking up a 55t or 56t for the duathlon i'm doing in
july.  more than likely it will be a temp thing just for flat races.
the ride i did yesterday was a 40 miler from pacific beach to
leucadia and back.  it should have taken 2.5 hours if we were
trucking with no stops, but with the uphills and and stop sign and
stop lights and all...plus the 1 hour coffee break at the pannikin in
leucadia, it took us too long. haha!  the average speed was mostly
taken on the flats.  and if you're pretty strong or even averagely
strong on the hills, then you have me cooked.

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, glzl@... wrote:
>
> Art,
>  Have you thought about putting a larger chain ring on your bike.
My brother in law has a 55 or 56tooth on his bike? And seriously you
avg 25mph? If so my friend if I ever ride with you either you'll
leave me in the dust or wait for me. How many miles did you ride with
this 25mph avg? Gene
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "wakko warner" <faboo3@...>
> > SERIOUSLY.
> > next thing you know, someone will sneak in the $15 million bank
> > account from nigeria email.
> > so i took out my refurbished time trial/tri machine for a cruise
> > yesterday.  it was to be the first big test that i put on her
since
> > the rebuild.  let me tell you, 20mph into the cross/headwinds
that
> > was coming off the coast at around 15degrees from my left.  on
the
> > return trip, i was conserving my legs for a farely short but
steep
> > climb along the PCH, so i had my Y on the biggest gears i had
(53/11)
> > and paced myself on a pretty slow cadence count...i averaged
25mph
> > anyways.  my friend was spinning like mad on his 3lb lighter
madone
> > just to keep within sight of me!
> > first real test will be july 27th when i race a duathlon at
solana
> > beach.   gonna see about renting some zipps for that one.
> >
> > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, glzl@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Wakko,
> > >  You'd think the members would take this type of spam else
where. I
> > guess not my apologizes to you and the rest of our y foil
junkies!
> >
>
> >      Happy trails, Gene
> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: "wakko warner" <faboo3@>
> > > > SPAM!!! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM!!!
> > > > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, craig boyle <craig_bikes@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > my dear friend :
> > > > > We are a large trading company from china,an
> > > > > agent of all the well-known digital product
> > > > > factories,and facing to both
> > > > > wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all
> > > > > over the world. We export all kinds of digital
> > > > > products and offer most competitive and reasonable
> > > > > price and high quality goods for our client ,so you
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Art,
  Have you thought about putting a larger chain ring on your bike. My brother in
law has a 55 or 56tooth on his bike? And seriously you avg 25mph? If so my
friend if I ever ride with you either you'll leave me in the dust or wait for
me. How many miles did you ride with this 25mph avg? Gene
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "wakko warner" <faboo3@...>
> SERIOUSLY.
> next thing you know, someone will sneak in the $15 million bank
> account from nigeria email.
> so i took out my refurbished time trial/tri machine for a cruise
> yesterday.  it was to be the first big test that i put on her since
> the rebuild.  let me tell you, 20mph into the cross/headwinds that
> was coming off the coast at around 15degrees from my left.  on the
> return trip, i was conserving my legs for a farely short but steep
> climb along the PCH, so i had my Y on the biggest gears i had (53/11)
> and paced myself on a pretty slow cadence count...i averaged 25mph
> anyways.  my friend was spinning like mad on his 3lb lighter madone
> just to keep within sight of me!
> first real test will be july 27th when i race a duathlon at solana
> beach.   gonna see about renting some zipps for that one.
>
> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, glzl@... wrote:
> >
> > Wakko,
> >  You'd think the members would take this type of spam else where. I
> guess not my apologizes to you and the rest of our y foil junkies!
> >
>      Happy trails, Gene
> >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "wakko warner" <faboo3@...>
> > > SPAM!!! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM!!!
> > > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, craig boyle <craig_bikes@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > my dear friend :
> > > > We are a large trading company from china,an
> > > > agent of all the well-known digital product
> > > > factories,and facing to both
> > > > wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all
> > > > over the world. We export all kinds of digital
> > > > products and offer most competitive and reasonable
> > > > price and high quality goods for our client ,so you
> > > > can make a big profit.Please feel free to contact us
> > > > if you have any questions or you find the articles you
> > > > like.We will offer you best service.
> > > > About us:
> > > > Our Web
> > > > address:http://www.bjceo.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

SERIOUSLY.
next thing you know, someone will sneak in the $15 million bank
account from nigeria email.
so i took out my refurbished time trial/tri machine for a cruise
yesterday.  it was to be the first big test that i put on her since
the rebuild.  let me tell you, 20mph into the cross/headwinds that
was coming off the coast at around 15degrees from my left.  on the
return trip, i was conserving my legs for a farely short but steep
climb along the PCH, so i had my Y on the biggest gears i had (53/11)
and paced myself on a pretty slow cadence count...i averaged 25mph
anyways.  my friend was spinning like mad on his 3lb lighter madone
just to keep within sight of me!
first real test will be july 27th when i race a duathlon at solana
beach.   gonna see about renting some zipps for that one.

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, glzl@... wrote:
>
> Wakko,
>  You'd think the members would take this type of spam else where. I
guess not my apologizes to you and the rest of our y foil junkies!
>
      Happy trails, Gene
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "wakko warner" <faboo3@...>
> > SPAM!!! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM!!!
> > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, craig boyle <craig_bikes@> wrote:
> > >
> > > my dear friend :
> > > We are a large trading company from china,an
> > > agent of all the well-known digital product
> > > factories,and facing to both
> > > wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all
> > > over the world. We export all kinds of digital
> > > products and offer most competitive and reasonable
> > > price and high quality goods for our client ,so you
> > > can make a big profit.Please feel free to contact us
> > > if you have any questions or you find the articles you
> > > like.We will offer you best service.
> > > About us:
> > > Our Web
> > > address:http://www.bjceo.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Wakko,
  You'd think the members would take this type of spam else where. I guess not my
apologizes to you and the rest of our y foil junkies!
                                                                          Happy
trails, Gene
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "wakko warner" <faboo3@...>
> SPAM!!! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM!!!
> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, craig boyle <craig_bikes@...> wrote:
> >
> > my dear friend :
> > We are a large trading company from china,an
> > agent of all the well-known digital product
> > factories,and facing to both
> > wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all
> > over the world. We export all kinds of digital
> > products and offer most competitive and reasonable
> > price and high quality goods for our client ,so you
> > can make a big profit.Please feel free to contact us
> > if you have any questions or you find the articles you
> > like.We will offer you best service.
> > About us:
> > Our Web
> > address:http://www.bjceo.com
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

SPAM!!! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM!!!
--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, craig boyle <craig_bikes@...> wrote:
>
> my dear friend :
> We are a large trading company from china,an
> agent of all the well-known digital product
> factories,and facing to both
> wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all
> over the world. We export all kinds of digital
> products and offer most competitive and reasonable
> price and high quality goods for our client ,so you
> can make a big profit.Please feel free to contact us
> if you have any questions or you find the articles you
> like.We will offer you best service.
> About us:
> Our Web
> address:http://www.bjceo.com
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ok cool I saw the other post first. when you get this call me and I will send an
email to the group it is sold.

   801-824-9155





   ----- Original Message -----
   From: heinzpeier
   To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 3:33 PM
   Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale


   --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "triman666" <triman666@...> wrote:
   >
   > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
   > $500.00 plus shipping.
   > Email directly with questions.

   I would like to buy the frame for $ 500.pls respnd directly to
   hpeier@...
   thanks
   Heinz
   >





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

my dear friend :
      We are a large trading company from china,an
agent of all the well-known digital product
factories,and facing to both
wholesalers,retailsalers,and personal customer all
over the world. We export all kinds of digital
products and offer most competitive and reasonable
price and high quality goods for our client ,so you
can make a big profit.Please feel free to contact us
if you have any questions or you find the articles you
like.We will offer you best service.
About us:
                    Our Web
  address:http://www.bjceo.com

noted.
 
Garfield

--- On Mon, 5/26/08, glzl@... <glzl@...> wrote:

From: glzl@... <glzl@...>
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 3:09 AM






Garfield,
Hey it's Gene I hope you don't mind I am going ahead and buying the y foil from
Jim Sargent. If for any reason it falls through I will let you know, as I'm sure
Jim would also. Thanks, Gene
------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- -
From: Garfield Norris <garfield.norris@ yahoo.com>
> OK i am waiting
>
> Garfield
>
>
> --- On Sun, 5/25/08, jim sargent <triman666@msn. com> wrote:
>
> > From: jim sargent <triman666@msn. com>
> > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
> > To: yfoil@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 4:11 AM
> > Dark Blue
> > I will send a picture tomorrow
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <garfield.norris@ yahoo.com>
> > To: <yfoil@yahoogroups. com>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for
> > sale
> >
> >
> > > Is it the light postal blue or the Dark inkwell blue?
> > >
> > > Garfield
> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "jim sargent"
> > <triman666@msn. com>
> > >
> > > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 11:17:14
> > > To:<yfoil@yahoogroups. com>
> > > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame
> > for sale
> > >
> > >
> > > I will leave the cabling, Brakes, bottom bracket
> > cranks and 53/39
> > > sprockets. I will also leave the shimano ultegra
> > derailler. I will put the
> > > original handlebars in the box but I have a set of
> > profile design T wing
> > > aero bars and have moved the shifter to a bar end, The
> > old handle bars has
> > > the STI still on them.
> > >
> > > I will have to post a picture later as my wife has the
> > digital camera and
> > > is out for the day. It is the original Trek Blue Y66
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gene Richardson
> > > To: yfoil@yahoogroups.
> > <mailto:yfoil% 40yahoogroups. com> com
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:15 AM
> > > Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for
> > sale
> > >
> > > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.
> > <mailto:yfoil% 40yahoogroups. com> com,
> > > "triman666" <triman666@. ..> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size
> > 56 CM.
> > > > $500.00 plus shipping.
> > > > Email directly with questions.
> > > >
> > > Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How
> > about you post a
> > > picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> > >
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> > >
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>
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Garfield,
  Hey it's Gene I hope you don't mind I am going ahead and buying the y foil from
Jim Sargent. If for any reason it falls through I will let you know, as I'm sure
Jim would also. Thanks, Gene
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Garfield Norris <garfield.norris@...>
> OK i am waiting
>
> Garfield
>
>
> --- On Sun, 5/25/08, jim sargent <triman666@...> wrote:
>
> > From: jim sargent <triman666@...>
> > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
> > To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 4:11 AM
> > Dark Blue
> > I will send a picture tomorrow
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <garfield.norris@...>
> > To: <yfoil@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for
> > sale
> >
> >
> > > Is it the light postal blue or the Dark inkwell blue?
> > >
> > > Garfield
> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "jim sargent"
> > <triman666@...>
> > >
> > > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 11:17:14
> > > To:<yfoil@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame
> > for sale
> > >
> > >
> > > I will leave the cabling, Brakes, bottom bracket
> > cranks and 53/39
> > > sprockets. I will also leave the shimano ultegra
> > derailler. I will put the
> > > original handlebars in the box but I have a set of
> > profile design T wing
> > > aero bars and have moved the shifter to a bar end, The
> > old handle bars has
> > > the STI still on them.
> > >
> > > I will have to post a picture later as my wife has the
> > digital camera and
> > > is out for the day. It is the original Trek Blue Y66
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gene Richardson
> > > To: yfoil@yahoogroups.
> > <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:15 AM
> > > Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for
> > sale
> > >
> > > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.
> > <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> > > "triman666" <triman666@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size
> > 56 CM.
> > > > $500.00 plus shipping.
> > > > Email directly with questions.
> > > >
> > > Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How
> > about you post a
> > > picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

OK i am waiting

Garfield


--- On Sun, 5/25/08, jim sargent <triman666@...> wrote:

> From: jim sargent <triman666@...>
> Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
> To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 4:11 AM
> Dark Blue
> I will send a picture tomorrow
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <garfield.norris@...>
> To: <yfoil@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for
> sale
>
>
> > Is it the light postal blue or the Dark inkwell blue?
> >
> > Garfield
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "jim sargent"
> <triman666@...>
> >
> > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 11:17:14
> > To:<yfoil@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame
> for sale
> >
> >
> > I will leave the cabling, Brakes, bottom bracket
> cranks and 53/39
> > sprockets. I will also leave the shimano ultegra
> derailler. I will put the
> > original handlebars in the box but I have a set of
> profile design T wing
> > aero bars and have moved the shifter to a bar end, The
> old handle bars has
> > the STI still on them.
> >
> > I will have to post a picture later as my wife has the
> digital camera and
> > is out for the day. It is the original Trek Blue Y66
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gene Richardson
> > To: yfoil@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:15 AM
> > Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for
> sale
> >
> > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> > "triman666" <triman666@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size
> 56 CM.
> > > $500.00 plus shipping.
> > > Email directly with questions.
> > >
> > Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How
> about you post a
> > picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I have seen some tri bikes built with a 650 front wheel and a 700 in the rear.
Same with some women specific frames. The logic as I understand it is to tighten
up the geometry - shorter wheel base and/or shorter top tube (steeper seat tube
= think tri) and shorten the reach (for smaller riders/women with shorter
torso's)

   Scott

jim sargent <triman666@...> wrote:
           The 650 is an old triathlon theory that is faster for handling and
acceleration. but the 700cc wheel is faster over just about any distance over a
sprint. If the 650 was a better wheel then the tour riders would be on them. I
don't know anyone riding a 650 wheel and I am an active trialthlete / rider.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Richardson
To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: [yfoil] 650c wheels versus 700c wheels

Hi group,
I have a friend thats wanting to buy a softride that has 650c wheels.
Does anyone have the pros and cons to using a smaller wheel? I know he
should be wanting a Y Foil! Please let me know if this wouldn't be a
good move for long distance riding ? Thanks, Gene

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The 650 is an old triathlon theory that is faster for handling and acceleration.
but the 700cc wheel is faster over just about any distance over a sprint. If the
650 was a better wheel then the tour riders would be on them. I don't know
anyone riding a 650 wheel and I am an active trialthlete / rider.



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Gene Richardson
   To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:50 AM
   Subject: [yfoil] 650c wheels versus 700c wheels


   Hi group,
   I have a friend thats wanting to buy a softride that has 650c wheels.
   Does anyone have the pros and cons to using a smaller wheel? I know he
   should be wanting a Y Foil! Please let me know if this wouldn't be a
   good move for long distance riding ? Thanks, Gene





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

650 wheels are lighter and stiffer, hence their popularity with triathletes
(they tend to be big chain pushers instead of cyclist. However, the trade off is
with road resistance and availablity of brands. obiviously, there is a reason
why the pros use 700 instead of 650. If 650 were that great, why is it that
trime trialists use 700 instead?

Local399@... wrote:          Con: Not a great selection of tires or tubes
Con: If you flat a couple of times on the road and run out of tubes, the
chance of borrowing one from another rider is pretty scarce
Pros:?


In a message dated 5/24/2008 10:54:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
garfield.norris@... writes:

Gene my understanding is the 650 wheels that makes TRI bikes unstable, but
they are fast.

G

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Gene Richardson" <glzl@...>

Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:50:45
To:yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yfoil] 650c wheels versus 700c wheels

Hi group,
I have a friend thats wanting to buy a softride that has 650c wheels.
Does anyone have the pros and cons to using a smaller wheel? I know he
should be wanting a Y Foil! Please let me know if this wouldn't be a
good move for long distance riding ? Thanks, Gene

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Dark Blue
I will send a picture tomorrow




----- Original Message -----
From: <garfield.norris@...>
To: <yfoil@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale


> Is it the light postal blue or the Dark inkwell blue?
>
> Garfield
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "jim sargent" <triman666@...>
>
> Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 11:17:14
> To:<yfoil@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
>
>
> I will leave the cabling, Brakes, bottom bracket cranks and 53/39
> sprockets. I will also leave the shimano ultegra derailler. I will put the
> original handlebars in the box but I have a set of profile design T wing
> aero bars and have moved the shifter to a bar end, The old handle bars has
> the STI still on them.
>
> I will have to post a picture later as my wife has the digital camera and
> is out for the day. It is the original Trek Blue Y66
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene Richardson
> To: yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:15 AM
> Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
>
> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> "triman666" <triman666@...> wrote:
> >
> > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
> > $500.00 plus shipping.
> > Email directly with questions.
> >
> Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How about you post a
> picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

--- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "triman666" <triman666@...> wrote:
>
> Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
> $500.00 plus shipping.
> Email directly with questions.

I would like to buy the frame for $ 500.pls respnd directly to
hpeier@...
thanks
Heinz
>

I'm interested in the 56cm and would need just the
frame......................quick buyer
please respond directly to hpeier@...
regards
Heinz
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: triman666
   To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:09 AM
   Subject: [yfoil] Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale


   Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
   $500.00 plus shipping.
   Email directly with questions.





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Con: Not a great selection of tires or tubes
Con: If you flat a couple of times on the road and run out of tubes,  the
chance of borrowing one from another rider is pretty scarce
Pros:?


In a message dated 5/24/2008 10:54:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
garfield.norris@... writes:

Gene my  understanding is the 650 wheels that makes TRI bikes unstable, but
they are  fast.

G



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-----Original Message-----
From: "Gene Richardson"  <glzl@...>

Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:50:45
To:yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yfoil] 650c wheels versus 700c  wheels


Hi group,
I have a friend thats wanting to buy a softride  that has 650c wheels.
Does anyone have the pros and cons to using a smaller  wheel? I know he
should be wanting a Y Foil! Please let me know if this  wouldn't be a
good move for long distance riding ? Thanks,  Gene


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If it's a light weight rider who uses standard bars like ours, not tt bars do
you think it may-be an issue?
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: garfield.norris@...
> Gene my understanding is the 650 wheels that makes TRI bikes unstable, but
they
> are fast.
>
> G
>
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Gene Richardson" <glzl@...>
>
> Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:50:45
> To:yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [yfoil] 650c wheels versus 700c wheels
>
>
> Hi group,
>  I have a friend thats wanting to buy a softride that has 650c wheels.
>  Does anyone have the pros and cons to using a smaller wheel? I know he
>  should be wanting a Y Foil! Please let me know if this wouldn't be a
>  good move for long distance riding ? Thanks, Gene
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Gene my understanding is the 650 wheels that makes TRI bikes unstable, but they
are fast.

G



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-----Original Message-----
From: "Gene Richardson" <glzl@...>

Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:50:45
To:yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yfoil] 650c wheels versus 700c wheels


Hi group,
  I have a friend thats wanting to buy a softride that has 650c wheels.
  Does anyone have the pros and cons to using a smaller wheel? I know he
  should be wanting a Y Foil! Please let me know if this wouldn't be a
  good move for long distance riding ? Thanks, Gene

Hi group,
  I have a friend thats wanting to buy a softride that has 650c wheels.
Does anyone have the pros and cons to using a smaller wheel? I know he
should be wanting a Y Foil! Please let me know if this wouldn't be a
good move for long distance riding ? Thanks, Gene

Garfield,
  The bike thats being offered is a inkwell blue. The 66 model came in inkwell
and red, the 77 models came in postal and gold. I actually am thinking seriously
of buying the inkwell.
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: garfield.norris@...
> Is it the light postal blue or the Dark inkwell blue?
>
> Garfield
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "jim sargent" <triman666@...>
>
> Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 11:17:14
> To:<yfoil@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
>
>
> I will leave the cabling, Brakes, bottom bracket cranks and 53/39 sprockets. I
> will also leave the shimano ultegra derailler. I will put the original
> handlebars in the box but I have a set of profile design T wing aero bars and
> have moved the shifter to a bar end, The old handle bars has the STI still on
> them.
>
>  I will have to post a picture later as my wife has the digital camera and is
> out for the day. It is the original Trek Blue Y66
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Gene Richardson
>  To: yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com
>  Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:15 AM
>  Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
>
>  --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com, "triman666"
> <triman666@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
>  > $500.00 plus shipping.
>  > Email directly with questions.
>  >
>  Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How about you post a
>  picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Is it the light postal blue or the Dark inkwell blue?

Garfield
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-----Original Message-----
From: "jim sargent" <triman666@...>

Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 11:17:14
To:<yfoil@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale


I will leave the cabling, Brakes, bottom bracket cranks and 53/39 sprockets. I
will also leave the shimano ultegra derailler. I will put the original
handlebars in the box but I have a set of profile design T wing aero bars and
have moved the shifter to a bar end, The old handle bars has the STI still on
them.

  I will have to post a picture later as my wife has the digital camera and is
out for the day. It is the original Trek Blue Y66

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Gene Richardson
  To: yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com
  Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:15 AM
  Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale

  --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com, "triman666"
<triman666@...> wrote:
  >
  > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
  > $500.00 plus shipping.
  > Email directly with questions.
  >
  Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How about you post a
  picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

No I'm far far from Amarillo that's up in the panhandle I'm near the coast in
Houston. Jobs can be had here depending on the industry.

Garfield
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-----Original Message-----
From: glzl@...

Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:45:13
To:yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale


Garfield,
  I'm sure one day we'll meet and ride. My wife has family in Texas a little town
call Pampa about 100 miles from Amarillo. Are you even remotely close to that
area?
  And good job those are respectable speeds.
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
  From: garfield.norris@ <mailto:garfield.norris%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com
  > I just did 48 with a group I just joined and they are monsters. If anyone
passes
  > them its on I got there late and rode with the second group we averaged 23 to
  > catch the first group. One of the riders fell so they cut the route from 80.
I
  > hit the wall on the way back and had to drag myself back to the car.
  >
  > I'm riding again with them tomorrow another 50 or so I have to get in shape
if
  > I'm gonna hang with there guys. I hope to meet and ride with you some day.
  >
  > Garfield
  > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: glzl@comcast. <mailto:glzl%40comcast.net> net
  >
  > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:24:13
  > To:yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com
  > Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
  >
  >
  > Hey Garfield,
  > I don't know the gent who has this frame. if it's in good condition it's not
  > over priced. I see y foil frames sell on ebay anywhere from $395- $650
depending
  > on the condition. I would like to see some pictures of it. Have a great 3 day
  > week end and go out a get a ride or 2 in. I hope to put in 40-70 mi over this
  > week end myself.
  > -------------- Original message ----------------------
  > From: garfield.norris@ <mailto:garfield.norris%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com
  > > Thanks do U know this guy ? I think this is high what do U think?
  > >
  > > Garfield
  > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: "Gene Richardson" <glzl@comcast. <mailto:glzl%40comcast.net> net>
  > >
  > > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:15:25
  > > To:yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com
  > > Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
  > >
  > >
  > > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com, "triman666"
  > > <triman666@...> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
  > > > $500.00 plus shipping.
  > > > Email directly with questions.
  > > >
  > > Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How about you post a
  > > picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene
  > >
  > >
  > > ------------------------------------
  > >
  > > Yahoo! Groups Links
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
  > ------------------------------------
  >
  > Yahoo! Groups Links
  >
  >
  >

I will leave the cabling, Brakes, bottom bracket cranks and 53/39 sprockets. I
will also leave the shimano ultegra derailler. I will put the original
handlebars in the box but I have a set of profile design T wing aero bars and
have moved the shifter to a bar end, The old handle bars has the STI still on
them.

I will have to post a picture later as my wife has the digital camera and is out
for the day. It is the original Trek Blue Y66


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Gene Richardson
   To: yfoil@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:15 AM
   Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale


   --- In yfoil@yahoogroups.com, "triman666" <triman666@...> wrote:
   >
   > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
   > $500.00 plus shipping.
   > Email directly with questions.
   >
   Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How about you post a
   picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene





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Garfield,
  I'm sure one day we'll meet and ride. My wife has family in Texas a little town
call Pampa about 100 miles from Amarillo. Are you even remotely close to that
area?
  And good job those are respectable speeds.
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: garfield.norris@...
> I just did 48 with a group I just joined and they are monsters. If anyone
passes
> them its on I got there late and rode with the second group we averaged 23 to
> catch the first group. One of the riders fell so they cut the route from 80. I
> hit the wall on the way back and had to drag myself back to the car.
>
> I'm riding again with them tomorrow another 50 or so I have to get in shape if
> I'm gonna hang with there guys. I hope to meet and ride with you some day.
>
> Garfield
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: glzl@...
>
> Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:24:13
> To:yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
>
>
> Hey Garfield,
>  I don't know the gent who has this frame. if it's in good condition it's not
> over priced. I see y foil frames sell on ebay anywhere from $395- $650
depending
> on the condition. I would like to see some pictures of it. Have a great 3 day
> week end and go out a get a ride or 2 in. I hope to put in 40-70 mi over this
> week end myself.
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>  From: garfield.norris@ <mailto:garfield.norris%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com
>  > Thanks do U know this guy ? I think this is high what do U think?
>  >
>  > Garfield
>  > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: "Gene Richardson" <glzl@comcast. <mailto:glzl%40comcast.net> net>
>  >
>  > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:15:25
>  > To:yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com
>  > Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
>  >
>  >
>  > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com, "triman666"
>  > <triman666@...> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
>  > > $500.00 plus shipping.
>  > > Email directly with questions.
>  > >
>  > Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How about you post a
>  > picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene
>  >
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------
>  >
>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I just did 48 with a group I just joined and they are monsters. If anyone passes
them its on I got there late and rode with the second group we averaged 23 to
catch the first group. One of the riders fell so they cut the route from 80. I
hit the wall on the way back and had to drag myself back to the car.

I'm riding again with them tomorrow another 50 or so I have to get in shape if
I'm gonna hang with there guys. I hope to meet and ride with you some day.

Garfield
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-----Original Message-----
From: glzl@...

Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:24:13
To:yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale


Hey Garfield,
  I don't know the gent who has this frame. if it's in good condition it's not
over priced. I see y foil frames sell on ebay anywhere from $395- $650 depending
on the condition. I would like to see some pictures of it. Have a great 3 day
week end and go out a get a ride or 2 in. I hope to put in 40-70 mi over this
week end myself.
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
  From: garfield.norris@ <mailto:garfield.norris%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com
  > Thanks do U know this guy ? I think this is high what do U think?
  >
  > Garfield
  > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: "Gene Richardson" <glzl@comcast. <mailto:glzl%40comcast.net> net>
  >
  > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:15:25
  > To:yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com
  > Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
  >
  >
  > --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com, "triman666"
  > <triman666@...> wrote:
  > >
  > > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
  > > $500.00 plus shipping.
  > > Email directly with questions.
  > >
  > Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How about you post a
  > picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene
  >
  >
  > ------------------------------------
  >
  > Yahoo! Groups Links
  >
  >
  >

Hey Garfield,
  I don't know the gent who has this frame. if it's in good condition it's not
over priced. I see y foil frames sell on ebay anywhere from $395- $650 depending
on the condition. I would like to see some pictures of it. Have a great 3 day
week end and go out a get a ride or 2 in. I hope to put in 40-70 mi over this
week end myself.
  -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: garfield.norris@...
> Thanks do U know this guy ? I think this is high what do U think?
>
> Garfield
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Gene Richardson" <glzl@...>
>
> Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:15:25
> To:yfoil@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale
>
>
> --- In yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com, "triman666"
> <triman666@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
>  > $500.00 plus shipping.
>  > Email directly with questions.
>  >
>  Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How about you post a
>  picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Thanks do U know this guy ? I think this is high what do U think?

Garfield
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Gene Richardson" <glzl@...>

Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:15:25
To:yfoil@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [yfoil] Re: Y Foil 66 Blue 56 cm frame for sale


--- In yfoil@yahoogroups. <mailto:yfoil%40yahoogroups.com> com, "triman666"
<triman666@...> wrote:
  >
  > Good / Excellent condition Bought in 2000, Size 56 CM.
  > $500.00 plus shipping.
  > Email directly with questions.
  >
  Are you offering just the frame/fork for $500? How about you post a
  picture of what your offering? Thanks, Gene