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#30 From: "Mario" <newastro2@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: HOWHIT ENGINE MANUFACTURER
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Looks like a that may be the engine manufacturer.

I while back I was looking up taiwan small engines manufactures and I
was dreaming how much something like this would cost.

http://www.ji-ee.com/engine_sg150.htm

And by the way, the sticker on my engine says 15W-40W oil. I guess
Yerf decided to lower the weight to allow for the increased
temparature range in the states than in Taiwan.


Regards

Mario

#29 From: "Mario" <newastro2@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: Re-enforced spindle and rough ride
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Thanks Darrell and Edwards,

I will try your recommendations. I did loosen up all the ends when I
was replacing the spindles, but I guess it was not enough.

Question?

1. What will be the recommended torque for the lock nuts holding
the spindles and the steering tied rod end.

Regards

Mario

#28 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: Bent Spindle
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Hey Steve,

I just moved your Photos folder out to the top level.  No problem.

I think you are right that the front shocks don't have enough
travel... they bottom out way too easily which transmits a shock
load to the spindles.  That's one of the reasons I decided to buy
some better quality, stronger, longer shocks for the front.

Thanks for the info and picture,

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "ticklmielmo"
<ticklmielmo@y...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>   I just discovered that my left front shock has bottomed out
pretty
> hard. The dust cover under the spring, which by the way looks to
be
> plastic, is mushroomed from hitting the adjuster at the bottom of
the
> spring. Pretty hard to spot. I bet this is a contributing factor
to
> the bent spindle problem. The shocks need a higher spring rate or
> more travel or both. I posted a photo but somehow it ended up in
> Edward's album. Sorry Edward. Just thought I'd pass this along to
> maybe help with our spindle problems.
>
>                           Steve

#27 From: "ticklmielmo" <ticklmielmo@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 5:51 pm
Subject: Bent Spindle
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Hi all,
   I just discovered that my left front shock has bottomed out pretty
hard. The dust cover under the spring, which by the way looks to be
plastic, is mushroomed from hitting the adjuster at the bottom of the
spring. Pretty hard to spot. I bet this is a contributing factor to
the bent spindle problem. The shocks need a higher spring rate or
more travel or both. I posted a photo but somehow it ended up in
Edward's album. Sorry Edward. Just thought I'd pass this along to
maybe help with our spindle problems.

                           Steve

#26 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 5:28 pm
Subject: HOWHIT ENGINE MANUFACTURER
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Right now, I don't know anyone that knows 100% for sure who
manufactures the Howhit engine.  However, I now have a new theory
that seems to be the most likely candidate (at least for now - until
more info becomes available).

I now believe that Aeon Motor Company of Taiwan manufactures the
Howhit engine in our 3206 and 3209 karts.

A while back, I suspected this when I found out that the Yerf Dog
Rover Compact Utility Vehicle (CUV) engine was made by Aeon.  It
makes sense for Yerf Dog to source another engine from Aeon through
their existing business relationship.  Check out the note at the
bottom of this Yerf Dog CUV flyer...

http://www.yerf-dog.com/pdf/34800_details.pdf

Another thing that points to Aeon is the engine information in this
BRANDSPLSACE ad on the 3209 says that outright says that Aeon makes
the engine.  Looks like they must have gotten that info from someone
within Yerf that knows...

http://store.yahoo.com/brandsplace/frshgx150fus.html#1

I recently noticed about the Brandsplace ad, and this along with my
past thoughts about the Aeon Roger CUV engine now leads me to
believe that Aeon may manufacture the Howhit engine as well.

I asked a Yerf customer service rep about this today when I called
about my carburetor problem, but they did not know for sure.

Here's the Aeon web site in case any of you are interested... they
mostly show the vehicles they make and there was not many details
(or pictures) on their engines....

http://www.aeonmotor.com.tw

If Aeon does in fact manufacture the Howhit engine, then that would
seem to be a good thing.  Aeon Motor Company is ISO9002 certified
for quality, and they seem to produce a lot of engines so they seem
to know what they are doing.

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm

#25 From: Darrell Way <tkat13_racing@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 5:03 pm
Subject: Re: Re-enforced spindle and rough ride
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After replacing the spindle, you may have to also
replace the locking nuts. The nylon locking piece
wears out the more screw/unscrew the nuts. these are
very cheap, bought a varitey of sizes from Tractor
Supply for 6.00, comes with about 100 nuts.

Also try putting lock-tight on the threads of the
bolts before putting on the nuts. This worked for the
bolts that were loosening up on my causing my rattles
at low RPM. The largest ratteler was the cage around
the chain. I lost a bolt and it was horrible. the bolt
is not structural, but without it, it is very
annoying.


--- Mario <newastro2@...> wrote:
> My kids and I went over to our regular ridding place
> yesterday and we
> put our 3206 thru some ditches, small elevations and
> high speed
> cornering and turning.
>
> The reinforced spindles held their ground, but the
> main problem now
> is that the lock nut holding the bottom of the
> spindle to the swing
> arms is coming loose every half and hour to 45
> minutes.  I also have
> he same problem with the tied rod ends for the
> steering.
>
> There were additional rattle noises in low speed,
> but after checking
> almost every bolt and nut in the frame, I think it
> is just the way
> the frame resonates at low speed.
>
> I believe part of the problem with the rough ride is
> the rear swing
> frame, where the engine is mounted. It just does not
> seems to move
> that much when driving over uneven terrain. The
> front suspension on
> the other hand since to be moving and dampening very
> effectible.
>
> I may have to adjust the rear shocks to see if
> softening the shocks
> produces any noticeable improvement. (Are the rear
> shocks supposed to
> be hydraulic too?).
>
> That's the last ride for this week, since we will
> have to wait until
> next weekend to ride again.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Mario
>
>
>


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#24 From: Darrell Way <tkat13_racing@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Glamis dunes kills 3rd design spindles
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that is great info, for my new design. I am still
waiting on Yerf to send my new spindles for the
purpose of measurements, but I have wasted too many
good weekends waiting so I think I will try without.

However, since you gave this great info, it allows me
to rethink the upper design. Thanks again....



--- keyturbocars <keyturbocars@...> wrote:
> Welcome Azraptoraz,
>
> Sounds like you had a fun weekend duning.  There are
> also supposed
> to be some fun dunes around here in Colorado.  I've
> just got to find
> out exactly where they are and then get my trailier.
>  I've had a
> trailer on back order for several weeks now.
> Hopefully it shows up
> some time soon!
>
> Good to know about the new spindle design weakness.
> Sounds like
> Yerf is heading in the right direction, but they
> need to keep
> working on the spindle design.  Be sure to contact
> Yerf Dog and let
> them know what happened.  Offer to send them some
> digital pictures
> of the bent spindles so they can see first hand
> where they are
> failing.  I've already sent them a few different
> pictures on stuff
> after talking with customer service to help them
> pass the info along
> to those in Yerf Dog that can make things better.
>
> If you have some, please post some pictures from
> your duning this
> weekend.  Also, could you also re-post your picture
> of the 3rd
> spindle design here so we have it as reference?
> Thanks.
>
> Edward
> Yerf Dog 3206
> http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm
>
>
> --- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "azraptoraz"
> <vanceracing@c...>
> wrote:
> > Well guys after some great duning this weekend, my
> 3206's only
> > casualties are the new 3rd design spindles. I bent
> one the first
> > day. Which I straightened. And then my wife bent
> both, badly, on a
> > good G-Out on the third day. The new spindles bend
> on the top now
> > instead of the bottom. They bend up, sending the
> tie rod over into
> > the tire. After some gussetting on these, I think
> bent spindles
> will
> > be a thing of the past. On a better note, my 3206
> went through the
> > dunes great. I put 20-11-10 8 paddle Sand Sharks
> on it and dropped
> > the front tires down to 2 psi. It went pretty much
> anywhere my
> wife
> > wanted to take it. My extra 100 pounds limited its
> hill shooting
> > ability though. Also, my buddies new Dazon 150R1
> wasn't as
> > fortunate. Without paddles, it couldn't keep up
> with my Yerf. Even
> > though mine was stock and his Dazon had a pipe and
> filter. It also
> > broke the reverse stay bolt causing it to get hung
> up between
> > reverse and forward, which basically left it in
> neutral. Good
> thing
> > we brought a tow strap. He also broke the steering
> shaft bolt.
> Which
> > caused the steering shaft to pull out and have a
> toal loss of
> > steering. So overall my Yerf had a great weekend.
>
>


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#23 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 4:32 pm
Subject: Beware of Brake Return in Cold Weather
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Not sure if anyone else has noticed this.... when the weather is
cold, the brake pedal will not completely return on my 3206.

It appears that the current resturn spring is not strong enough to
retract the piston fully out of the master cylinder.  I've taken my
kart out on some cold days (probably in the 20's), and the brakes
will drag unless I put my toe behind the brake pedal and pull it
back.  It appears that the cold weather makes the master cylinder
piston seal more stiff and harder to retract the piston.

This should be relatively simple to fix with a stronger return
spring.  For now, it's a simple matter of pulling the brake pedal
back with my toe.

Just wanted to mention this to others because it's not real obvious
when this happens.  The brake dragging is light so it may go
unnoticed.  If they do drag all the time, then the pads will get
worn prematurely - as well as a little engine power will be wasted
with the extra friction.

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://wwww.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm

#22 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Re-enforced spindle and rough ride
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--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "Mario" <newastro2@y...> wrote:
> The reinforced spindles held their ground, but the main problem
now
> is that the lock nut holding the bottom of the spindle to the
swing
> arms is coming loose every half and hour to 45 minutes.  I also
have
> he same problem with the tied rod ends for the steering.

I noticed this as well on some of the A-arm ball joint studs on my
3206.  I believe this is happening because the ball joints might be
too stiff on some karts.  I removed the rubber boots on all my A-
arm/spindle ball joints and cleaned them up with brake cleaner
spray.  Then I sprayed them with some lube and worked the joints
around over and over to try and loosen them up.  At first, some of
the joints were so stiff that they would not even move by hand.
They felt seized and were really stuck good.  I put on some thick
leather gloves and began banging on the ball joint studs with my
hands to get them to move.  I didn't want to use a hammer and mess
up the threads.  Using a piece of wood to hammer on the ball joint
studs to get them to move around might also work.  Eventually, they
seemed to loosen up.  It took quite a bit of moving the joints
around to loosen them up.  If the ball joints are loosened up and
working properly, then the ball joints should rotate when the wheels
are turned - and the locknuts should be much less likely to be
turned loose.

> There were additional rattle noises in low speed, but after
checking
> almost every bolt and nut in the frame, I think it is just the way
> the frame resonates at low speed.

I agree.  There is a definite resonace/rattling that occurs at under
3000RPM.  Seems to really buzz around 2500RPM or so.  If I get that
resonance/rattling sounds, I just hit the gas and bring the engine
RPM's up a little and it goes away instantly.

> I believe part of the problem with the rough ride is the rear
swing
> frame, where the engine is mounted. It just does not seems to move
> that much when driving over uneven terrain. The front suspension
on
> the other hand since to be moving and dampening very effectible.
>
> I may have to adjust the rear shocks to see if softening the
shocks
> produces any noticeable improvement. (Are the rear shocks supposed
to
> be hydraulic too?).

They are supposed to be hydraulic shocks all around on the 3206 &
3209.  They don't seem like very good shocks to be which is why I
ordered the new shocks.  My 3206 came with the rear shocks set to
their lightest/softest setting from the factory.  If yours did too,
then you won't be able to make it any softer.  One thing I found
that helps soften the ride over rough terrain is to drop tire
pressure a little.  I tried 10PSI FRONT, and 8PSI REAR and it seemed
to help quite a bit.

> That's the last ride for this week, since we will have to wait
until
> next weekend to ride again.

My new carb is supposed to arrive here this week, and I look forward
to driving my 3206 again - when it's running properly again!

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://wwww.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm

#21 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: Selling Fast
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Thanks George.  I just added BJ's to the Links section.

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "George" <itobma@y...> wrote:
> Edward,
> Here is another site for your links...
> http://www.bjs.com/products/toys/
> BJs wholesale also sells the 3209.
> Thanks for the new site,
> George
>
>
> --- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "keyturbocars"
> <keyturbocars@y...> wrote:
> > It appears that these new karts are selling fast.  I was surfing
> > around looking for places that sell these new karts online, and
it
> > looks like the 3209 is already sold out and won't be available
> again
> > until mid Janurary.  I'd suspect that the 3206 will also be
> > departing local Sam's Club stores quickly too - especially as it
> > gets closer to Christmas.
> >
> > These places show the 3209 as sold out right now...
> >
> > http://store.yahoo.com/brandsplace/frshgx150fus.html
> >
> > http://joslincorp.com
> >
> > Edward
> > Yerf Dog 3206
> > http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm

#20 From: "Mario" <newastro2@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:49 pm
Subject: Re-enforced spindle and rough ride
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My kids and I went over to our regular ridding place yesterday and we
put our 3206 thru some ditches, small elevations and high speed
cornering and turning.

The reinforced spindles held their ground, but the main problem now
is that the lock nut holding the bottom of the spindle to the swing
arms is coming loose every half and hour to 45 minutes.  I also have
he same problem with the tied rod ends for the steering.

There were additional rattle noises in low speed, but after checking
almost every bolt and nut in the frame, I think it is just the way
the frame resonates at low speed.

I believe part of the problem with the rough ride is the rear swing
frame, where the engine is mounted. It just does not seems to move
that much when driving over uneven terrain. The front suspension on
the other hand since to be moving and dampening very effectible.

I may have to adjust the rear shocks to see if softening the shocks
produces any noticeable improvement. (Are the rear shocks supposed to
be hydraulic too?).

That's the last ride for this week, since we will have to wait until
next weekend to ride again.


Regards

Mario

#19 From: "George" <itobma@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Selling Fast
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Edward,
Here is another site for your links...
http://www.bjs.com/products/toys/
BJs wholesale also sells the 3209.
Thanks for the new site,
George


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "keyturbocars"
<keyturbocars@y...> wrote:
> It appears that these new karts are selling fast.  I was surfing
> around looking for places that sell these new karts online, and it
> looks like the 3209 is already sold out and won't be available
again
> until mid Janurary.  I'd suspect that the 3206 will also be
> departing local Sam's Club stores quickly too - especially as it
> gets closer to Christmas.
>
> These places show the 3209 as sold out right now...
>
> http://store.yahoo.com/brandsplace/frshgx150fus.html
>
> http://joslincorp.com
>
> Edward
> Yerf Dog 3206
> http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm

#18 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:35 pm
Subject: Selling Fast
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It appears that these new karts are selling fast.  I was surfing
around looking for places that sell these new karts online, and it
looks like the 3209 is already sold out and won't be available again
until mid Janurary.  I'd suspect that the 3206 will also be
departing local Sam's Club stores quickly too - especially as it
gets closer to Christmas.

These places show the 3209 as sold out right now...

http://store.yahoo.com/brandsplace/frshgx150fus.html

http://joslincorp.com

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm

#17 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:28 pm
Subject: THE ANSWER Re: 3206 3209 Howhit Engine Hesitation
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I contacted Yerf Dog customer service this morning and talked with
them about the damaged diaphragm in my Dekni carburetor.  Once
again, they were very helpful and they are sending me out a brand
new carb.

They really only should send out the diaphragm, but they do not have
these in stock yet so they are sending the new carb.  Great
service!

I also sent them some digital pictures showing the problem, and they
are going to try to get some individual replacement parts for the
Dekni carburetor so they have them on hand.  That way they won't
have to send out a whole carb (expensive) to fix a relatively minor
problem!

I've been very impressed with the great service I've received from
Yerf on this kart!

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "keyturbocars"
<keyturbocars@y...> wrote:
> I forwarded this information over so that it will be in the
archives
> here...
>
> I think I have FINALLY found the answer to my Howhit engine
> hesitation!  Of course, I won't be totally settled on all this
until
> I get a replacement part, install
> it, and begin tearing up the dirt again!  It appears to all be
> caused by a defective diaphgram in the carb.
>
> I've taken the time to document this on my web site with pictures
so
> that others here in the group can refer to it - as well as the
many
> people that visit my web pages through internet searches.
>
> Hopefully, this will save some other people time and trouble in
the
> future if they encouter the same problem....
>
> http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-Troubleshooting.htm
>
> Edward
> Yerf Dog 3206
> http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm

#16 From: "Mario" <newastro2@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: new group
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Hi fellows!

The new group seems to be like a natural extension to the new line, I
am a subscriber to some of the telescope and astronomy groups and
normally they have general groups and specific manufacturer/model
groups.

I will be dropping regularly in both groups since I think the info in
both may be helpful for all.

Regards

Mario

#15 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: Glamis dunes kills 3rd design spindles
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Welcome Azraptoraz,

Sounds like you had a fun weekend duning.  There are also supposed
to be some fun dunes around here in Colorado.  I've just got to find
out exactly where they are and then get my trailier.  I've had a
trailer on back order for several weeks now.  Hopefully it shows up
some time soon!

Good to know about the new spindle design weakness.  Sounds like
Yerf is heading in the right direction, but they need to keep
working on the spindle design.  Be sure to contact Yerf Dog and let
them know what happened.  Offer to send them some digital pictures
of the bent spindles so they can see first hand where they are
failing.  I've already sent them a few different pictures on stuff
after talking with customer service to help them pass the info along
to those in Yerf Dog that can make things better.

If you have some, please post some pictures from your duning this
weekend.  Also, could you also re-post your picture of the 3rd
spindle design here so we have it as reference?  Thanks.

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "azraptoraz" <vanceracing@c...>
wrote:
> Well guys after some great duning this weekend, my 3206's only
> casualties are the new 3rd design spindles. I bent one the first
> day. Which I straightened. And then my wife bent both, badly, on a
> good G-Out on the third day. The new spindles bend on the top now
> instead of the bottom. They bend up, sending the tie rod over into
> the tire. After some gussetting on these, I think bent spindles
will
> be a thing of the past. On a better note, my 3206 went through the
> dunes great. I put 20-11-10 8 paddle Sand Sharks on it and dropped
> the front tires down to 2 psi. It went pretty much anywhere my
wife
> wanted to take it. My extra 100 pounds limited its hill shooting
> ability though. Also, my buddies new Dazon 150R1 wasn't as
> fortunate. Without paddles, it couldn't keep up with my Yerf. Even
> though mine was stock and his Dazon had a pipe and filter. It also
> broke the reverse stay bolt causing it to get hung up between
> reverse and forward, which basically left it in neutral. Good
thing
> we brought a tow strap. He also broke the steering shaft bolt.
Which
> caused the steering shaft to pull out and have a toal loss of
> steering. So overall my Yerf had a great weekend.

#14 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: New Group
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Welcome Ed.  Great to see you here.

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Randle" <emrand@c...> wrote:
> Edward.
>
> This seems to be the natural progression of things.
> I'm not surprised. Glad that you started it.
> Some of the new comers, like me, would have probably never done
this.
> I would like to thank you for all the valuable information
> you personally have provided.
> I enjoy viewing you web site, very nicely done.
> I don't mean to take anything away from the original group, after
all
> they were the reason I got into off road carts to begin with and
> decided to purchase a 3205.
>
>
> Thanks to all.
>
> Ed

#13 From: "azraptoraz" <vanceracing@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:04 pm
Subject: Glamis dunes kills 3rd design spindles
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Well guys after some great duning this weekend, my 3206's only
casualties are the new 3rd design spindles. I bent one the first
day. Which I straightened. And then my wife bent both, badly, on a
good G-Out on the third day. The new spindles bend on the top now
instead of the bottom. They bend up, sending the tie rod over into
the tire. After some gussetting on these, I think bent spindles will
be a thing of the past. On a better note, my 3206 went through the
dunes great. I put 20-11-10 8 paddle Sand Sharks on it and dropped
the front tires down to 2 psi. It went pretty much anywhere my wife
wanted to take it. My extra 100 pounds limited its hill shooting
ability though. Also, my buddies new Dazon 150R1 wasn't as
fortunate. Without paddles, it couldn't keep up with my Yerf. Even
though mine was stock and his Dazon had a pipe and filter. It also
broke the reverse stay bolt causing it to get hung up between
reverse and forward, which basically left it in neutral. Good thing
we brought a tow strap. He also broke the steering shaft bolt. Which
caused the steering shaft to pull out and have a toal loss of
steering. So overall my Yerf had a great weekend.

#12 From: "Ed Randle" <emrand@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 2:42 pm
Subject: New Group
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Edward.

This seems to be the natural progression of things.
I'm not surprised. Glad that you started it.
Some of the new comers, like me, would have probably never done this.
I would like to thank you for all the valuable information
you personally have provided.
I enjoy viewing you web site, very nicely done.
I don't mean to take anything away from the original group, after all
they were the reason I got into off road carts to begin with and
decided to purchase a 3205.


Thanks to all.

Ed

#11 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: Seat cushions for 3206
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Welcome to the world of 3206 ownership!  Fun kart!

I haven't tried the Summit covers yet, but my rear end may lead me
to do so in the near future!

Just for the archives, I'll post that link to the Summit seat covers
here again...

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SUM%2DG1110B

Also, it looks like KartAccessories.com is coming out with seat
covers.  Not sure how much padding or how good they will be.

http://www.kartaccessories.com/HTML/red/spider/red_spider.htm

Not sure about the Carter XTV seat covers.  The seats look very
similar.  Wonder if OREST could comment on this since he owns both
karts.

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, timter2000 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
>  New owner of 3206 as of yesterday! Great machine. I was wondering
if
> anyone tried the summitracing covers Edward mentioned? What about
the
> carterXTV (3351000) cushions ? Will they workand how much foam do
> they have? Bye the way thanks Edward for all the help!Your the
king
> of the track.                           Great club Thanks

#10 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: Howhit Dekni Carburetor
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Hello OREST,

Excellent... glad to know someone that also has the Carer XTV kart.
My impression is that the XTV is a very well designed kart, and I
think that we can benefit from it's strengths to help improve the
3206 & 3209 karts.

If you carefully study the XTV and 3206 engine, do you see strong
evidence that they are made by the same company?

I know that they seem to be very similar, but I am curious who
manufactures this engine.  I know that the XTV engine is made by
Standard Motor in Taiwan.  I contacted Standard Motor in Taiwan to
try and see if they might be manufacturing the Howhit engine, but
they did not reply in a way that would disclose anything.  Either
they are not making it, or they don't want to openly brag about
this.

I will also be very curious to hear how your XTV compares to your
3206 in terms of performance once you get the 3206 up and running!

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, orestoo7@a... wrote:
>         Edward!  I purchsed the 3206 about 1.5 months ago, but
have not had
>    a chance to assemble it yet!  I store it up at our cottage in
the
> northwest
>    part of the lower Michigan.  I purchased a Carter XTV 2150 as
soon as it
>    came out earlier in the season.  The Carter is a great machine,
but at a
>    $3400.00 price tag!  I bought the 3206 as an impulse buy so
that we would
>    have 2 machines that adults could ride in!
>        The 3206 looked so similar in  construction that I thought
that I
> could
>    not go wrong!  Waiting to put it  together and give it a test
spin.....but
> will
>    have Yerf Dog replace the front spindles before the test run!
The engines
>    are very similar..  that and the suspension is what actually
sold me, and
>    the $1500.00 price tag also!. looks like the 3206  is a lesser
expensive
>    design of the Carter, but with a pretty nice engine!
>
>       If You need to get info on the Carter, I have it all......
>     thanks......OREST
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#9 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: Thanks Edward
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Welcome Todd.  Thanks for your message.  I suspect that this group
will be growing in the near future as more and more people become
part of the 3206 and 3209 gang.

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "kartsahd" <kartsahd@y...>
wrote:
> I just wanted to thank you for the new sight and all the
information
> about the 3206, it was kinda over running the other one and needed
> its own home. I still have not bought a 3206 but I will and all
the
> information will just make it go that much smoother and I realy
like
> having another sight to read! Todd

#8 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: new group
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Welcome Riddle!  Glad to see you here.

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm


--- In yerfdoggx150@yahoogroups.com, "riddleosteel"
<riddleofsteel@t...> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I wondered how long it would take for a new group on the new Yerf
Dog
> series. I thought about starting one myself but since I do not own
> one of this series and have no immediate plans to own one it
seemed
> better to let one of you guys handle that. The traffic over at
Yerf
> Dog Off Road Carts certainly has picked up since the introduction
of
> the new series and it has been a long time since I have seen this
> much excitement over a new cart.
> I will follow you new group's progress with interest as well as
the
> progress of the new Yerf Dogs. Remember you are always welcome at
the
> old home place; YERF DOG OFF ROAD CARTS.
>
> See Ya on the Trail
>
> Riddle of Steel

#7 From: timter2000
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 4:56 am
Subject: Seat cushions for 3206
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New owner of 3206 as of yesterday! Great machine. I was wondering if
anyone tried the summitracing covers Edward mentioned? What about the
carterXTV (3351000) cushions ? Will they workand how much foam do
they have? Bye the way thanks Edward for all the help!Your the king
of the track.                           Great club Thanks

#6 From: orestoo7@...
Date: Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: Howhit Dekni Carburetor
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Edward!  I purchsed the 3206 about 1.5 months ago, but have not had
    a chance to assemble it yet!  I store it up at our cottage in the
northwest
    part of the lower Michigan.  I purchased a Carter XTV 2150 as soon as it
    came out earlier in the season.  The Carter is a great machine, but at a
    $3400.00 price tag!  I bought the 3206 as an impulse buy so that we would
    have 2 machines that adults could ride in!
        The 3206 looked so similar in  construction that I thought that I
could
    not go wrong!  Waiting to put it  together and give it a test spin.....but
will
    have Yerf Dog replace the front spindles before the test run!  The engines
    are very similar..  that and the suspension is what actually sold me, and
    the $1500.00 price tag also!. looks like the 3206  is a lesser expensive
    design of the Carter, but with a pretty nice engine!

       If You need to get info on the Carter, I have it all......
     thanks......OREST


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#5 From: "kartsahd" <kartsahd@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:04 am
Subject: Thanks Edward
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I just wanted to thank you for the new sight and all the information
about the 3206, it was kinda over running the other one and needed
its own home. I still have not bought a 3206 but I will and all the
information will just make it go that much smoother and I realy like
having another sight to read! Todd

#4 From: "riddleosteel" <riddleofsteel@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 2:08 am
Subject: new group
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Greetings,

I wondered how long it would take for a new group on the new Yerf Dog
series. I thought about starting one myself but since I do not own
one of this series and have no immediate plans to own one it seemed
better to let one of you guys handle that. The traffic over at Yerf
Dog Off Road Carts certainly has picked up since the introduction of
the new series and it has been a long time since I have seen this
much excitement over a new cart.
I will follow you new group's progress with interest as well as the
progress of the new Yerf Dogs. Remember you are always welcome at the
old home place; YERF DOG OFF ROAD CARTS.

See Ya on the Trail

Riddle of Steel

#3 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:23 pm
Subject: Howhit Dekni Carburetor
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When I was troubleshooting the sputtering/coughing/hesitation of the
Howhit engine in my 3206, I found this web site from the Dekni
carburetor that is used on the Howhit engine on our karts.

The Howhit engine has a Dekni (or "Deni" - looks like it's stated
either way) model PD24J carburetor.

Here's the site....

http://www.dekni.com/ENGLISH/newproduction.htm

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm

#2 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:43 pm
Subject: THE ANSWER Re: 3206 3209 Howhit Engine Hesitation
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I forwarded this information over so that it will be in the archives
here...

I think I have FINALLY found the answer to my Howhit engine
hesitation!  Of course, I won't be totally settled on all this until
I get a replacement part, install
it, and begin tearing up the dirt again!  It appears to all be
caused by a defective diaphgram in the carb.

I've taken the time to document this on my web site with pictures so
that others here in the group can refer to it - as well as the many
people that visit my web pages through internet searches.

Hopefully, this will save some other people time and trouble in the
future if they encouter the same problem....

http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-Troubleshooting.htm

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206-3209.htm

#1 From: "keyturbocars" <keyturbocars@...>
Date: Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:05 pm
Subject: Welcome to the Group
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Welcome to this new group dedicated to the Yerf Dog 3206 and 3209
karts.  It is my hope that because these new karts are so different
than any other Yerf Dog kart, that this dedicated group can better
focus more on the unique features of these great new karts!

Edward
Yerf Dog 3206
http://www.key-ideas.com/Yerf-Dog-3206.htm

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