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Re: [world_cricket] this is shameful by aussies and the umpires

Hi Ho All,

Firstly, congrats to Australia. 16 tests in a row and some wonderful batting
by Hayden, Hussey and Hogg. I also enjoyed Stuart Clark's bowling; for me he
is Australia's best by far. Lee is getting better it would seem and I still
can't believe they consider Johnson, let alone pick him (and this is coming
from a Queenslander).

And congrats to India, who in the face of some diabolical situations have at
least held their head up high (although Harbijhan may have lost the plot,
time will tell) and given a sterling performance that the history books
won't show. Not a far superior effort to the poor showing in Melbourne, but
if things had gone the right way (and there were a few things that went
India's way) then we could have had a very different game. Most enjoyable
was LAxman and Tendulka's efforts, but I also enjoyed Dravid's batting. As
slow as it was, it was great to see him fight through his poor form posting
two good scores ... it reminded me of Greg Chappel regaining form after tha
string of ducks. Great to watch a champion fight back.

And India may very well do the same. Ignoring the unfair aspects, India lost
it in their bowling, just. But they are clearly on the improve and very
close to catching them. The scorecard may read Australia by 122 runs, but
the truth is, and the Australian team knows it (just look at the rather
excitable celebarations ... and they say football players are over the top),
that they only won the game with 7 balls to spare and an awful lot of good
luck going their way. Reverse the luck and they know they are in deep doo
doo.

As for the comments below, well they make sense from someone who is a fan of
the losing team, so for that I say fair enough. As I look at neither winning
or losing from a fan's point of view I'm not going to go there. It is
disappointing that so many poor decisions can happen in one game, with more
of them favouring one team over another.

I'm far more disappointed with Symmonds and the damage he has done with his
comments after not walking; not walking is a 50/50 issue that will never go
away, fine. But the way he put it ... cheat and good luck to you if you get
away with it. Very disappointing indeed. I'd rather lose than win by
cheating is the simple way to look at it.

Anyway, bring on the next one ... when and where is the next one?

Cheers
Christopher

> Not only have the umpires continued at work of giving bad decisions
> against
> India but even the aussies have lost the last bit of sportsmanship in the
> game left. They appealed when everyone in their heart knew dravid was no
> way
> near the ball and now clarke has claimed a catch which clearly bounced. I
> am
> afraid this is not cricket for me. This is a very very poor example and
> very
> bad ad for the game.
>
> This is disgraceful..all 5 days we have been screwed again and again by
> both
> umpires on field and even the 3rd umpire..a game we deserved to win has
> been
> converted to a probable defeat by the 3 great gentlemen in white and some
> unsporting cricket.





Sun Jan 6, 2008 8:08 am

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Not only have the umpires continued at work of giving bad decisions against India but even the aussies have lost the last bit of sportsmanship in the game...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 6, 2008
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Hi Ho All, Firstly, congrats to Australia. 16 tests in a row and some wonderful batting by Hayden, Hussey and Hogg. I also enjoyed Stuart Clark's bowling; for...
Oldfathertime
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Jan 6, 2008
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Cricket lost the gentlemen spirit way back ... so i no longer agree with it ... its a competitive world now and players too are human like us .. and will try...
Bilal Ahmed
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Jan 6, 2008
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Technology has to be used as much as possible in these times...yes even that is now 100% perfect but atleast the percentage of bad decisions would reduce a...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 6, 2008
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sorry Saurabh i posted my original 2 u by mistake.... anyway try and remember what i posted... now i wasn't gunna reply due to another issue.. but i thought i...
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Jan 6, 2008
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I can't comment too heavily on this match because I watched it remotely, but it does seem extraordinary that an Umpire should ask a player whether a ball is...
Riff
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Jan 6, 2008
9:57 pm

riff so was i.... it goes back 2 a decision that i had 2 make the guy was trustworthy he said he caught it i didn't c it at square leg and the main umpires was...
nrkb1976
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Jan 6, 2008
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To be fair to Hair .. i think ICC needs to ban Bucknor as well ... I think ICC needs to come strict on umpires as well now .. ... -- Bilal Ahmed Systems...
Bilal Ahmed
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Jan 7, 2008
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Ponting never walks apart from the times he gets bowled and yet the umpire benson thought its right to take his word and give ganguly out when he had bucknor...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 7, 2008
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You know, you have no idea at all what Mark Benson thought was the correct dection before he put his finger up. In his mind, as an umpire, he might have...
David Murrin
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Jan 7, 2008
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The decision should have gone to the third umpire because Benson was in doubt and in anycase was in no position to judge if the ball carried to clarke or if...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 7, 2008
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Beleive me, without "AUSSIE" glasses on, I've seen COUNTLESS catches taken like that - claimed - and given. And I don't have a problem with it. I've seen many...
David Murrin
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Jan 7, 2008
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RICKY PONTING also happily claimed a catch yesterday of Dhoni when he clearly grounded the ball after catching the ball :o) ... -- Saurabh Malhotra I`m on...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 7, 2008
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Man, the number of catches I've seen like that.. Tha number I've seen "claimed" when they didn't even hit the bat... (which, at least TH?IS one hit the glove) ...
David Murrin
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Jan 7, 2008
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I dont think the real issue is of them claiming the catch...its the umpire believing the fielders word and not confirming it first. Players appeal for ...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 7, 2008
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I watched it live... I thought it was a catch (and have seen OTHER nations claim the same and I've thought the same) Mark Benson, thought it was out. Simple....
David Murrin
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Jan 7, 2008
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So Mark Benson then has to get back to his basics and spare the trouble to everyone next time. ... -- Saurabh Malhotra I`m on Facebook :...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 7, 2008
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You're probable right... he does But regardless, t'was a catch, he was out, and it was given....
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Jan 7, 2008
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Agree to disagree :) ... -- Saurabh Malhotra I`m on Facebook : saurabhmalhotra@... I`m on MSN Messenger : malhotra_saurabh@... I`m on Yahoo!...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 7, 2008
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after watching inside cricket and the information i now have got that both captains agreed that if a player thought he caught it then he was to be given out.....
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Jan 7, 2008
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Its already in history for the wrong reasons mate...suddenly cricket actually is looking a very minor thing in all this. Its disappointing but due to the...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 7, 2008
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both captains had agreed before the series that any contencious catch would be up to the players and captain to make a call on. that is what happened. ponting...
Jesse Papargiris
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Jan 9, 2008
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if it wasnt for the technology we would notice how 'bad' the umpiring is. The fact is we see everything that goes on now and the umpires are under the pump - i...
Jesse Papargiris
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Jan 9, 2008
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You could be right here... They have become to lazy and they rely on the replays to much........
Nathan Bricknell
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Jan 9, 2008
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I am against use of technology .. its making the game a lot robotic .. i don't care if my team lose due to bad human decisions ... let the humans stay there...
Bilal Ahmed
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Jan 9, 2008
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Yer I like the human aspect but I think they did change it due 2 the bad and I mean real bad mistake they were making... Ie the runouts.... But I dunno there...
Nathan Bricknell
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Jan 9, 2008
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I dont see what is the problem in 3rd umpire over-ruling the on field umpire`s decision when clearly the replays suggest if the fielder is claiming a catch...
Saurabh Malhotra
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Jan 9, 2008
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I think 3 referrals is being tested form Champions Trophy in Pakistan this year ... however i doubt if a lot of sides will be travelling to Pakistan though...
Bilal Ahmed
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Jan 9, 2008
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I'm open to correction here but I believe that they tried this in a competition in England for last summer season and dropped it because every referral upheld...
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Jan 9, 2008
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With you all the way on this one Bilal ... From: world_cricket@yahoogroups.com [mailto:world_cricket@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bilal Ahmed Sent: 09 January...
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