Per their website (New Mexico)

Which is why Burn coach Fred Moses is working on a new playbook.

"I'm concerned with the offense," said Moses, who is a majority owner
along with his wife, Christi.

"Our offensive coordinator resigned after the first Dallas game. I
tried his system for the second game, and I didn't like it. It didn't
work. It's too restrictive."

The offense the Burn threw at Dallas on Saturday might have worked if
the Burn were the biggest, fastest, baddest players on the field.

They weren't.

-------------------------------

As for Arizona their Coach is one of the Best in the Business
top 5 in Womens football. Their problem is players level.

Please name players on either side of the ball that had a good
year and tell me why? I list them if I can see something that
points to their efforts. Their website is flashy but does not
provide info on games.

Their fan base will shrink and be reduced to family and friends.
The coach is the husband of the Owner. Oh well maybe a new
head coach is needed.

Sarge












--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "spddfnscoach"
<mrouija3x@h...> wrote:
> Sarge,
>   I apologize but I must disagree here. I must preface this by
> saying that I have zero knowledge of New Mexico's team firsthand. I
> do not know the credentials of the coaching staff, and I have never
> seen them play. They do have 43 players on their roster according
to
> their website but injuries and personal experience with player
> dedication could mean that number is not nearly as high as it
> appears. They do however have a good base if that number is close
to
> the true roster and that is a good start. I joined up with the
Speed
> their first season and their first head coach had very little
> football experience so the management brought in a defensive
> coordinator that was a defensive coordinator (I believe) at a
> division II-A college. When he arrived the ladies were all doing
> basketball drills, he turned the club around and taught the girls
> football both offensively and defensively. Again I don't know the
> experience of the Burn's coaching staff but to imply that they are
> not playing their hearts out I think is either foolish or mean
> spirited. They are playing the best teams this league has to offer,
> the only (possible) exception is Arizona and that's not a good
> comparison because Arizona is in the same position. With the
> exception of the Ice/Riviters every National conference team that
> has played either Houston or Dallas has had the exact same outcome
> and after learning from last year's heartwrenching season
apparently
> So Cal has joined that sorority of southwestern powerhouse
football.
> Perhaps the National Conference should stop playing offense and go
> back to learning how to tackle and block as well. The Burn play
five
> games out of a seven game season against them and they still come
> out every game and fight. Next year maybe they take a tip from So
> Cal and revamp their game. To tell a team to block and tackle,
> create turnovers, and find new players is insulting at best.
> Missouri used to take a pounding every year and normally they
> fielded a team of less than twenty players but they had more heart
> than any other team I played against and I would take that over
some
> of these loud mouthed, conceited, super players any day. New Mexico
> take heart, the first season is always the hardest. Take this kind
> of criticism with you into the offseason and use it as fuel to come
> out and dominate next year. Your schedule will never get any easier
> so the only thing you can do is get better So Cal, Long Beach, LA,
> and Arizona can vouch for that.
> Ex-Speed coach AL
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "footballrascal02535"
> <footballrascal02535@y...> wrote:
> > New Mexico has played a tough schedule period.
> >
> > However 1 suggestion stop playing offense period.
> >
> > 1.Just put your best Defensive players on the field.
> > 2.And put together a good special teams unit and kicking.
> > 3.Create turnovers fumble recoveries.
> > 4.Keep the ball on the ground.
> > 5.Find a good Field Goal Kicker.
> > 6.Get back to the basics Tackle and Block.
> > 7.Start looking at players.
> >   A.Maybe they are not playing well because they are
> >     better playing another position.
> >   B.Get some big runners inside to move the chains.
> >   C. Put your best tacklers in as Linebackers.
> > 8.Start playing good defensive football.
> >   Look at the previous scores..
> >    76-0. 56-0, 38-0 58-6.
> >   You have no offense. You need a defense to lower these
> >   points to 14 points. You do not have a offense to
> >   score alot of points.
> >
> >  Its been a terrible season. But start now about turning it around
> >  make changes and look in the off season for some more players.
> >
> >   Sarge
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ahoogroups.com, "fifty5hits" <anneke_blair@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am just curious how many of these teams did you actually see
> > play?
> > > Why would you discourage any team that goes out every game and
> > leaves
> > > it all on the field down to the last play regardless of the
> score?
> > Is
> > > it that only seasoned teams with tons of talent should play?
You
> > may
> > > want to end our terrible season but we keep getting better with
> > each
> > > game and we don't want to see our season end, nor can we wait
> till
> > > next year!!!
> > > Lastly for an expansion team I am sure you can ask anyone who
> has
> > been
> > > to New Mexico we have a great fan base that keeps getting
> better,
> > not
> > > only do we have alot of fans but they are GREAT!!! They love to
> > watch
> > > the game for the love of the game. We have people asking us how
> > they
> > > can be a sponsor or advertiser and the community interest is
> > getting
> > > bigger and bigger each week.
> > > So again I have to ask why would you want to discourage that??!?

Coach has a point - based on comparative scores, how would the Burn
fare if they were in the National conference? Maybe not .500, but
probably pretty close.

Also, he is correct - last year, our 1-9 season was the hardest I've
been through in 15 seasons. However, it just is making this season
one of the sweetest I've ever had, so it was worth it.

Keep fighting Burn, and we'll see you tomorrow!

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "spddfnscoach"
<mrouija3x@h...> wrote:
> Sarge,
>   I apologize but I must disagree here. I must preface this by
> saying that I have zero knowledge of New Mexico's team firsthand.
I
> do not know the credentials of the coaching staff, and I have
never
> seen them play. They do have 43 players on their roster according
to
> their website but injuries and personal experience with player
> dedication could mean that number is not nearly as high as it
> appears. They do however have a good base if that number is close
to
> the true roster and that is a good start. I joined up with the
Speed
> their first season and their first head coach had very little
> football experience so the management brought in a defensive
> coordinator that was a defensive coordinator (I believe) at a
> division II-A college. When he arrived the ladies were all doing
> basketball drills, he turned the club around and taught the girls
> football both offensively and defensively. Again I don't know the
> experience of the Burn's coaching staff but to imply that they are
> not playing their hearts out I think is either foolish or mean
> spirited. They are playing the best teams this league has to
offer,
> the only (possible) exception is Arizona and that's not a good
> comparison because Arizona is in the same position. With the
> exception of the Ice/Riviters every National conference team that
> has played either Houston or Dallas has had the exact same outcome
> and after learning from last year's heartwrenching season
apparently
> So Cal has joined that sorority of southwestern powerhouse
football.
> Perhaps the National Conference should stop playing offense and go
> back to learning how to tackle and block as well. The Burn play
five
> games out of a seven game season against them and they still come
> out every game and fight. Next year maybe they take a tip from So
> Cal and revamp their game. To tell a team to block and tackle,
> create turnovers, and find new players is insulting at best.
> Missouri used to take a pounding every year and normally they
> fielded a team of less than twenty players but they had more heart
> than any other team I played against and I would take that over
some
> of these loud mouthed, conceited, super players any day. New
Mexico
> take heart, the first season is always the hardest. Take this kind
> of criticism with you into the offseason and use it as fuel to
come
> out and dominate next year. Your schedule will never get any
easier
> so the only thing you can do is get better So Cal, Long Beach, LA,
> and Arizona can vouch for that.
> Ex-Speed coach AL

Sarge,
   I apologize but I must disagree here. I must preface this by
saying that I have zero knowledge of New Mexico's team firsthand. I
do not know the credentials of the coaching staff, and I have never
seen them play. They do have 43 players on their roster according to
their website but injuries and personal experience with player
dedication could mean that number is not nearly as high as it
appears. They do however have a good base if that number is close to
the true roster and that is a good start. I joined up with the Speed
their first season and their first head coach had very little
football experience so the management brought in a defensive
coordinator that was a defensive coordinator (I believe) at a
division II-A college. When he arrived the ladies were all doing
basketball drills, he turned the club around and taught the girls
football both offensively and defensively. Again I don't know the
experience of the Burn's coaching staff but to imply that they are
not playing their hearts out I think is either foolish or mean
spirited. They are playing the best teams this league has to offer,
the only (possible) exception is Arizona and that's not a good
comparison because Arizona is in the same position. With the
exception of the Ice/Riviters every National conference team that
has played either Houston or Dallas has had the exact same outcome
and after learning from last year's heartwrenching season apparently
So Cal has joined that sorority of southwestern powerhouse football.
Perhaps the National Conference should stop playing offense and go
back to learning how to tackle and block as well. The Burn play five
games out of a seven game season against them and they still come
out every game and fight. Next year maybe they take a tip from So
Cal and revamp their game. To tell a team to block and tackle,
create turnovers, and find new players is insulting at best.
Missouri used to take a pounding every year and normally they
fielded a team of less than twenty players but they had more heart
than any other team I played against and I would take that over some
of these loud mouthed, conceited, super players any day. New Mexico
take heart, the first season is always the hardest. Take this kind
of criticism with you into the offseason and use it as fuel to come
out and dominate next year. Your schedule will never get any easier
so the only thing you can do is get better So Cal, Long Beach, LA,
and Arizona can vouch for that.
Ex-Speed coach AL
--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "footballrascal02535"
<footballrascal02535@y...> wrote:
> New Mexico has played a tough schedule period.
>
> However 1 suggestion stop playing offense period.
>
> 1.Just put your best Defensive players on the field.
> 2.And put together a good special teams unit and kicking.
> 3.Create turnovers fumble recoveries.
> 4.Keep the ball on the ground.
> 5.Find a good Field Goal Kicker.
> 6.Get back to the basics Tackle and Block.
> 7.Start looking at players.
>   A.Maybe they are not playing well because they are
>     better playing another position.
>   B.Get some big runners inside to move the chains.
>   C. Put your best tacklers in as Linebackers.
> 8.Start playing good defensive football.
>   Look at the previous scores..
>    76-0. 56-0, 38-0 58-6.
>   You have no offense. You need a defense to lower these
>   points to 14 points. You do not have a offense to
>   score alot of points.
>
>  Its been a terrible season. But start now about turning it around
>  make changes and look in the off season for some more players.
>
>   Sarge
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ahoogroups.com, "fifty5hits" <anneke_blair@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I am just curious how many of these teams did you actually see
> play?
> > Why would you discourage any team that goes out every game and
> leaves
> > it all on the field down to the last play regardless of the
score?
> Is
> > it that only seasoned teams with tons of talent should play? You
> may
> > want to end our terrible season but we keep getting better with
> each
> > game and we don't want to see our season end, nor can we wait
till
> > next year!!!
> > Lastly for an expansion team I am sure you can ask anyone who
has
> been
> > to New Mexico we have a great fan base that keeps getting
better,
> not
> > only do we have alot of fans but they are GREAT!!! They love to
> watch
> > the game for the love of the game. We have people asking us how
> they
> > can be a sponsor or advertiser and the community interest is
> getting
> > bigger and bigger each week.
> > So again I have to ask why would you want to discourage that??!?

New Mexico has played a tough schedule period.

However 1 suggestion stop playing offense period.

1.Just put your best Defensive players on the field.
2.And put together a good special teams unit and kicking.
3.Create turnovers fumble recoveries.
4.Keep the ball on the ground.
5.Find a good Field Goal Kicker.
6.Get back to the basics Tackle and Block.
7.Start looking at players.
   A.Maybe they are not playing well because they are
     better playing another position.
   B.Get some big runners inside to move the chains.
   C. Put your best tacklers in as Linebackers.
8.Start playing good defensive football.
   Look at the previous scores..
    76-0. 56-0, 38-0 58-6.
   You have no offense. You need a defense to lower these
   points to 14 points. You do not have a offense to
   score alot of points.

  Its been a terrible season. But start now about turning it around
  make changes and look in the off season for some more players.

   Sarge



















ahoogroups.com, "fifty5hits" <anneke_blair@y...> wrote:
>
> I am just curious how many of these teams did you actually see
play?
> Why would you discourage any team that goes out every game and
leaves
> it all on the field down to the last play regardless of the score?
Is
> it that only seasoned teams with tons of talent should play? You
may
> want to end our terrible season but we keep getting better with
each
> game and we don't want to see our season end, nor can we wait till
> next year!!!
> Lastly for an expansion team I am sure you can ask anyone who has
been
> to New Mexico we have a great fan base that keeps getting better,
not
> only do we have alot of fans but they are GREAT!!! They love to
watch
> the game for the love of the game. We have people asking us how
they
> can be a sponsor or advertiser and the community interest is
getting
> bigger and bigger each week.
> So again I have to ask why would you want to discourage that??!?

I've turned and presented plenty of WPFL players who were carring the ball
wrong. It is kinda nice.

ftballgrl36 <ftballgrl36@...> wrote:True, while the tackled player SHOULD
protect the ball, I have run
into several opponents(in the WPFL) who leave the ball wide open,
making it easy for the 2nd or 3rd tackler to strip. As a safety, I
thoroughly enjoy teaching them that lesson!

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "robgood3" <robgood3@b...>
wrote:
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <kmring@y...>
> wrote:
>
> > In football, the first player should almost never be the one to
> > consciously try to strip the ball - that's not his/her job! Their
> job
> > is to stop the ballcarrier, so that the worst that happens is
that
> the
> > ballcarrier gains no more ground. Any additional tacklers that
> come in
> > are the ones who try to strip the ball.
>
> And that's why it usually doesn't work -- usually the tackled
player
> protects the ball after the initial hit.  More often, the hit that
> produces the fumble (or even a stolen ball) is the initial hit that
> comes from an unexpected direction, and in such a case the player
> stripping the ball is usually taking a chance by going for the ball
> rather than the tackle.
>
> So while it's true that the first player in should almost never be
> the one trying to strip the ball, that's because most of the time
> the risk isn't worth it.
>
> Meanwhile in rugby it doesn't usually pay for the first opposing
> player to go for the "strip" for two ADDITIONAL reasons (i.e.
> besides taking the chance on missing the tackle entirely):
>
> 1. Usually you're approaching from the front, moving forward, and a
> hit on the ball would usually just produce a knock-on anyway.
>
> 2. A good tackle gives your side a chance to get the ball after
it's
> released, so peeling the ball away isn't that much of a relative
> advantage.
>
> Robert




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Because Sarge has no idea what he's talking about. He's the boards
biggest idiot.--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "fifty5hits"
<anneke_blair@y...> wrote:
>
> I am just curious how many of these teams did you actually see play?
> Why would you discourage any team that goes out every game and leaves
> it all on the field down to the last play regardless of the score? Is
> it that only seasoned teams with tons of talent should play? You may
> want to end our terrible season but we keep getting better with each
> game and we don't want to see our season end, nor can we wait till
> next year!!!
> Lastly for an expansion team I am sure you can ask anyone who has
been
> to New Mexico we have a great fan base that keeps getting better, not
> only do we have alot of fans but they are GREAT!!! They love to watch
> the game for the love of the game. We have people asking us how they
> can be a sponsor or advertiser and the community interest is getting
> bigger and bigger each week.
> So again I have to ask why would you want to discourage that??!?

... how are they stacking up this far into the season?

Goto: http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/WPFL-BSFREE-INFO

and checkout the "MORE NUGGETS" post. The link for the calculator is
in the body of the message.

-GIG

P.S. SOMEBODY'S GOTTA START PAYING ME FOR GOOD STUFF LIKE THIS!

I just wanted to past this along to the group....I bought these
great pralines off line.
They were really good. And they gave me a chance to remember the
GOOD things about
New Orleans. Get yours and pass this along..

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                                   What is a New Orleans Praline?

The New Orleans Praline is a candy unique to New Orleans,it reflects
the rich gumbo of cultures that creates of the life of New
Orleans.....

Indeed, the praline - like New Orleans itself - started out with
aristocratic French roots but grew into something quite its own here
in the South.
Sweet treat immigrated from France to the banks of the Mississippi
River

There are many variations on the story of how the praline came to
be, but most of them revolve around the manor house of the 17th-
century French diplomat Cesar du Plessis Praslin - a name that later
morphed into the term for the candy. A chef in the kitchen here
developed a technique for coating almonds in cooked sugar which,
competing stories hold, were used by his courtly employer either as
a digestive aid or as gifts to the ladies he visited. In France and
elsewhere, the word praline is still used as a generic term for any
sort of candy made with nuts.



These early confections traveled with Frenchmen to their new colony
on the banks of the Mississippi, a land where both sugar cane and
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added, giving the candy more body, and a Southern tradition was
born.

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such things go, varying pronunciations and hybrid recipes. For the
record, the local and proper pronunciation is "prah-lean," while the
nut most commonly used in it is pronounced "peck-on." Just remember
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black women, who sold pralines "about the streets of the Old French
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and Royal streets and around Jackson Square in the shade of the
alleys flanking St. Louis Cathedral. And in the 1930s, the Louisiana
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True, while the tackled player SHOULD protect the ball, I have run
into several opponents(in the WPFL) who leave the ball wide open,
making it easy for the 2nd or 3rd tackler to strip. As a safety, I
thoroughly enjoy teaching them that lesson!

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "robgood3" <robgood3@b...>
wrote:
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <kmring@y...>
> wrote:
>
> > In football, the first player should almost never be the one to
> > consciously try to strip the ball - that's not his/her job! Their
> job
> > is to stop the ballcarrier, so that the worst that happens is
that
> the
> > ballcarrier gains no more ground. Any additional tacklers that
> come in
> > are the ones who try to strip the ball.
>
> And that's why it usually doesn't work -- usually the tackled
player
> protects the ball after the initial hit.  More often, the hit that
> produces the fumble (or even a stolen ball) is the initial hit that
> comes from an unexpected direction, and in such a case the player
> stripping the ball is usually taking a chance by going for the ball
> rather than the tackle.
>
> So while it's true that the first player in should almost never be
> the one trying to strip the ball, that's because most of the time
> the risk isn't worth it.
>
> Meanwhile in rugby it doesn't usually pay for the first opposing
> player to go for the "strip" for two ADDITIONAL reasons (i.e.
> besides taking the chance on missing the tackle entirely):
>
> 1. Usually you're approaching from the front, moving forward, and a
> hit on the ball would usually just produce a knock-on anyway.
>
> 2. A good tackle gives your side a chance to get the ball after
it's
> released, so peeling the ball away isn't that much of a relative
> advantage.
>
> Robert

SORRY Everyone!!!  I did type that backwards---teaches me to try and
work and daydream about grabbing two others to clear a maul
out!!!  :)

In rugby, at least the way I was taught, was that first man in wraps
the person and tries to "present" that person to his team-mates
(hopefully the support is there).  The difference in rugby and
football is that typically the next 2-3 people in "clear" the way
and try to initially strip the ball, so that a proper muck can be
set up, but stripping the ball is NOT their main purpose.  By this,
for those of you not familiar, the 2-3 people that come in, after
the hit, are responsible for solidifying the first person's position
and isolating the ball carrier (and hopefully the ball).  The next
person in either finishes stipping the ball and then present it to
the next person coming in for support, or take it to the ground for
a maul.

So, even in Rugby, it isn't the first persons job to strip---it is
to contain, isolate, and present...It is the responsability of the
second, third and fourth men (or women)in to primarily secure
the "line of scrimmage" and strip the ball if the opportunity
presents itself, and the fifth persons job to strip the ball and get
the offense rolling...

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "robgood3"
<robgood3@b...> wrote:
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <kmring@y...>
> wrote:
>
> > In football, the first player should almost never be the one to
> > consciously try to strip the ball - that's not his/her job!
Their
> job
> > is to stop the ballcarrier, so that the worst that happens is
that
> the
> > ballcarrier gains no more ground. Any additional tacklers that
> come in
> > are the ones who try to strip the ball.
>
> And that's why it usually doesn't work -- usually the tackled
player
> protects the ball after the initial hit.  More often, the hit that
> produces the fumble (or even a stolen ball) is the initial hit
that
> comes from an unexpected direction, and in such a case the player
> stripping the ball is usually taking a chance by going for the
ball
> rather than the tackle.
>
> So while it's true that the first player in should almost never be
> the one trying to strip the ball, that's because most of the time
> the risk isn't worth it.
>
> Meanwhile in rugby it doesn't usually pay for the first opposing
> player to go for the "strip" for two ADDITIONAL reasons (i.e.
> besides taking the chance on missing the tackle entirely):
>
> 1. Usually you're approaching from the front, moving forward, and
a
> hit on the ball would usually just produce a knock-on anyway.
>
> 2. A good tackle gives your side a chance to get the ball after
it's
> released, so peeling the ball away isn't that much of a relative
> advantage.
>
> Robert

Chances are, the ballcarrier is going to have a blocker in front. So I am gonna
say that your first priority would be to take out the blocker and expose the
ballcarrier unless you are 100% certain that you can make the tackle. That just
seems to be the most logical reasoning.

robgood3 <robgood3@...> wrote:--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com,
"Mark" <kmring@y...>
wrote:

> In football, the first player should almost never be the one to
> consciously try to strip the ball - that's not his/her job! Their
job
> is to stop the ballcarrier, so that the worst that happens is that
the
> ballcarrier gains no more ground. Any additional tacklers that
come in
> are the ones who try to strip the ball.

And that's why it usually doesn't work -- usually the tackled player
protects the ball after the initial hit.  More often, the hit that
produces the fumble (or even a stolen ball) is the initial hit that
comes from an unexpected direction, and in such a case the player
stripping the ball is usually taking a chance by going for the ball
rather than the tackle.

So while it's true that the first player in should almost never be
the one trying to strip the ball, that's because most of the time
the risk isn't worth it.

Meanwhile in rugby it doesn't usually pay for the first opposing
player to go for the "strip" for two ADDITIONAL reasons (i.e.
besides taking the chance on missing the tackle entirely):

1. Usually you're approaching from the front, moving forward, and a
hit on the ball would usually just produce a knock-on anyway.

2. A good tackle gives your side a chance to get the ball after it's
released, so peeling the ball away isn't that much of a relative
advantage.

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--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp <rottpuppie@y...>
wrote:

> We are not taught to FIRST strip the ball That is for the second
person. The first person's job is to Tackle and the ideal position is
Head to Hip WRAP with ARMS. More and more I see HS, Collage and NFL
player tuck in their arms and lunch them selves at the ball carrier.
Whose STUPID IDEA WAS THAT?

The rules committees, both college & pro, about 50 years ago.  They
changed the requirements for a tackle, no longer requiring that the
runner be held to be down.

Robert

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <kmring@y...>
wrote:

> In football, the first player should almost never be the one to
> consciously try to strip the ball - that's not his/her job! Their
job
> is to stop the ballcarrier, so that the worst that happens is that
the
> ballcarrier gains no more ground. Any additional tacklers that
come in
> are the ones who try to strip the ball.

And that's why it usually doesn't work -- usually the tackled player
protects the ball after the initial hit.  More often, the hit that
produces the fumble (or even a stolen ball) is the initial hit that
comes from an unexpected direction, and in such a case the player
stripping the ball is usually taking a chance by going for the ball
rather than the tackle.

So while it's true that the first player in should almost never be
the one trying to strip the ball, that's because most of the time
the risk isn't worth it.

Meanwhile in rugby it doesn't usually pay for the first opposing
player to go for the "strip" for two ADDITIONAL reasons (i.e.
besides taking the chance on missing the tackle entirely):

1. Usually you're approaching from the front, moving forward, and a
hit on the ball would usually just produce a knock-on anyway.

2. A good tackle gives your side a chance to get the ball after it's
released, so peeling the ball away isn't that much of a relative
advantage.

Robert

He got it Backwards. The First person tries to Tackle or prositon the person so
the ball can be striped. Hance why I put it in the second responce.

Mark <kmring@...> wrote:Pupp - did you even read what I posted before you
responded? Your
buddy Vic is the one who said the first person strips the ball, not
me.

Also, you will note that I agreed that not wrapping is fundamentally
poor tackling.

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
<rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
>
> We are not taught to FIRST strip the ball That is for the second
person. The first person's job is to Tackle and the ideal position
is Head to Hip WRAP with ARMS. More and more I see HS, Collage and
NFL player tuck in their arms and lunch them selves at the ball
carrier. Whose STUPID IDEA WAS THAT? There are VERY few open field
Tackles LAGITMET Tackles as in Arms wrapped around the body. And
like I said before Rugby Tackling is similar to Football the IDEA is
there and technically is there. Just that there are Pads involved.
>
>
>
> Guess you need to play it to understand it.
>
>
> Mark <kmring@y...> wrote:
> Nope - never played myself. My brother-in-law plays first side for
San
> Diego's OMBAC team. I know that the Dallas team is also in the
Super
> League.
>
> In football, the first player should almost never be the one to
> consciously try to strip the ball - that's not his/her job! Their
job
> is to stop the ballcarrier, so that the worst that happens is that
the
> ballcarrier gains no more ground. Any additional tacklers that
come in
> are the ones who try to strip the ball.
>
> In football, you are taught to "keep your eyes on the target"
(note
> that this does NOT mean spearing, at all). In rugby, that is a
recipe
> for a broken nose, since a scrum cap isn't quite the same as a
> football helmet. Because of that, you get alot of what I referred
to
> as the reaching and grabbing. Ruggers very seldom stick their
faces
> into a tackle on purpose, and I don't blame them.
>
> Look, I'm not saying that ruggers aren't tough by any means. All
I'm
> saying is that their tackling technique is better suited for the
pitch
> and not the gridiron.
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "vsimon28"
<vsimon28@y...>
> wrote:
>   First man
> > (woman) in tries to strip the ball or position the player in
such a
> > manner that the support coming in has a chance to either strip
the
> > ball again, or clean the pile up...
> >
> > Additionally, what other organized team sport do women have a
chance
> > to play where they get to hit and be hit?
> >
> > -Vic
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Pupp - did you even read what I posted before you responded? Your
buddy Vic is the one who said the first person strips the ball, not
me.

Also, you will note that I agreed that not wrapping is fundamentally
poor tackling.

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
<rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
>
> We are not taught to FIRST strip the ball That is for the second
person. The first person's job is to Tackle and the ideal position
is Head to Hip WRAP with ARMS. More and more I see HS, Collage and
NFL player tuck in their arms and lunch them selves at the ball
carrier. Whose STUPID IDEA WAS THAT? There are VERY few open field
Tackles LAGITMET Tackles as in Arms wrapped around the body. And
like I said before Rugby Tackling is similar to Football the IDEA is
there and technically is there. Just that there are Pads involved.
>
>
>
> Guess you need to play it to understand it.
>
>
> Mark <kmring@y...> wrote:
> Nope - never played myself. My brother-in-law plays first side for
San
> Diego's OMBAC team. I know that the Dallas team is also in the
Super
> League.
>
> In football, the first player should almost never be the one to
> consciously try to strip the ball - that's not his/her job! Their
job
> is to stop the ballcarrier, so that the worst that happens is that
the
> ballcarrier gains no more ground. Any additional tacklers that
come in
> are the ones who try to strip the ball.
>
> In football, you are taught to "keep your eyes on the target"
(note
> that this does NOT mean spearing, at all). In rugby, that is a
recipe
> for a broken nose, since a scrum cap isn't quite the same as a
> football helmet. Because of that, you get alot of what I referred
to
> as the reaching and grabbing. Ruggers very seldom stick their
faces
> into a tackle on purpose, and I don't blame them.
>
> Look, I'm not saying that ruggers aren't tough by any means. All
I'm
> saying is that their tackling technique is better suited for the
pitch
> and not the gridiron.
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "vsimon28"
<vsimon28@y...>
> wrote:
>   First man
> > (woman) in tries to strip the ball or position the player in
such a
> > manner that the support coming in has a chance to either strip
the
> > ball again, or clean the pile up...
> >
> > Additionally, what other organized team sport do women have a
chance
> > to play where they get to hit and be hit?
> >
> > -Vic
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We are not taught to FIRST strip the ball That is for the second person. The
first person's job is to Tackle and the ideal position is Head to Hip WRAP with
ARMS. More and more I see HS, Collage and NFL player tuck in their arms and
lunch them selves at the ball carrier. Whose STUPID IDEA WAS THAT? There are
VERY few open field Tackles LAGITMET Tackles as in Arms wrapped around the body.
And like I said before Rugby Tackling is similar to Football the IDEA is there
and technically is there. Just that there are Pads involved.



Guess you need to play it to understand it.


Mark <kmring@...> wrote:
Nope - never played myself. My brother-in-law plays first side for San
Diego's OMBAC team. I know that the Dallas team is also in the Super
League.

In football, the first player should almost never be the one to
consciously try to strip the ball - that's not his/her job! Their job
is to stop the ballcarrier, so that the worst that happens is that the
ballcarrier gains no more ground. Any additional tacklers that come in
are the ones who try to strip the ball.

In football, you are taught to "keep your eyes on the target" (note
that this does NOT mean spearing, at all). In rugby, that is a recipe
for a broken nose, since a scrum cap isn't quite the same as a
football helmet. Because of that, you get alot of what I referred to
as the reaching and grabbing. Ruggers very seldom stick their faces
into a tackle on purpose, and I don't blame them.

Look, I'm not saying that ruggers aren't tough by any means. All I'm
saying is that their tackling technique is better suited for the pitch
and not the gridiron.

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "vsimon28" <vsimon28@y...>
wrote:
   First man
> (woman) in tries to strip the ball or position the player in such a
> manner that the support coming in has a chance to either strip the
> ball again, or clean the pile up...
>
> Additionally, what other organized team sport do women have a chance
> to play where they get to hit and be hit?
>
> -Vic





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Thank you Vic. You said it very well. I could not of said it better.

Pads or not the basics are the same and THOUGT the same.

vsimon28 <vsimon28@...> wrote:
Thought of another point....you state "The tackling in rugby is good
for rugby. It would result in touchdowns in football."  I can't count
the number of times that I have seen touchdowns scored due to what I
believe you would refer to as a "football" hit.  Where as if it were a
ruggers tackle, the person making that tackle would have made an
attempt to wrap the person and contain, not just blow into them like a
missle, thus potentially saving a touchdown....

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <kmring@y...> wrote:
> You've GOT to be kidding! Even at the highest national levels (Super
> League) there's an awful lot of reaching and grabbing going on in
> rugby that would make a football coach go nuts.
>
> The tackling in rugby is good for rugby. It would result in
touchdowns
> in football.
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
<rottpuppie@y...>
> wrote:
> > RUGGERS make the best Tacklers in my book! And best ball handlers.
> They already have good field sence. Can run though a pack of 29
other
> people and are able to read for holes before they are not even
there.
> They may not be blocking allowed in Rugby but holes happen without
> them.




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True - and football players who tackle without wrapping have a poor
grasp of the fundamentals as well.

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "vsimon28" <vsimon28@y...>
wrote:
> Thought of another point....you state "The tackling in rugby is good
> for rugby. It would result in touchdowns in football."  I can't
count
> the number of times that I have seen touchdowns scored due to what I
> believe you would refer to as a "football" hit.  Where as if it were
a
> ruggers tackle, the person making that tackle would have made an
> attempt to wrap the person and contain, not just blow into them like
a
> missle, thus potentially saving a touchdown....
>

Nope - never played myself. My brother-in-law plays first side for San
Diego's OMBAC team. I know that the Dallas team is also in the Super
League.

In football, the first player should almost never be the one to
consciously try to strip the ball - that's not his/her job! Their job
is to stop the ballcarrier, so that the worst that happens is that the
ballcarrier gains no more ground. Any additional tacklers that come in
are the ones who try to strip the ball.

In football, you are taught to "keep your eyes on the target" (note
that this does NOT mean spearing, at all). In rugby, that is a recipe
for a broken nose, since a scrum cap isn't quite the same as a
football helmet. Because of that, you get alot of what I referred to
as the reaching and grabbing. Ruggers very seldom stick their faces
into a tackle on purpose, and I don't blame them.

Look, I'm not saying that ruggers aren't tough by any means. All I'm
saying is that their tackling technique is better suited for the pitch
and not the gridiron.

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "vsimon28" <vsimon28@y...>
wrote:
   First man
> (woman) in tries to strip the ball or position the player in such a
> manner that the support coming in has a chance to either strip the
> ball again, or clean the pile up...
>
> Additionally, what other organized team sport do women have a chance
> to play where they get to hit and be hit?
>
> -Vic

Thought of another point....you state "The tackling in rugby is good
for rugby. It would result in touchdowns in football."  I can't count
the number of times that I have seen touchdowns scored due to what I
believe you would refer to as a "football" hit.  Where as if it were a
ruggers tackle, the person making that tackle would have made an
attempt to wrap the person and contain, not just blow into them like a
missle, thus potentially saving a touchdown....

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <kmring@y...> wrote:
> You've GOT to be kidding! Even at the highest national levels (Super
> League) there's an awful lot of reaching and grabbing going on in
> rugby that would make a football coach go nuts.
>
> The tackling in rugby is good for rugby. It would result in
touchdowns
> in football.
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
<rottpuppie@y...>
> wrote:
> > RUGGERS make the best Tacklers in my book! And best ball handlers.
> They already have good field sence. Can run though a pack of 29
other
> people and are able to read for holes before they are not even
there.
> They may not be blocking allowed in Rugby but holes happen without
> them.

Mark, have you ever played?  If so, what team and position?  I played
consistantly for 4 years (mostly prop and inside center), and I try
and play a pick up game every now and then (not as much as I would
like).  While the tackling styles are somewhat different, they are
very similar to each other when considering "first hit".  First man
(woman) in tries to strip the ball or position the player in such a
manner that the support coming in has a chance to either strip the
ball again, or clean the pile up...

Additionally, what other organized team sport do women have a chance
to play where they get to hit and be hit?

-Vic

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <kmring@y...> wrote:
> You've GOT to be kidding! Even at the highest national levels (Super
> League) there's an awful lot of reaching and grabbing going on in
> rugby that would make a football coach go nuts.
>
> The tackling in rugby is good for rugby. It would result in
touchdowns
> in football.
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
<rottpuppie@y...>
> wrote:
> > RUGGERS make the best Tacklers in my book! And best ball handlers.
> They already have good field sence. Can run though a pack of 29
other
> people and are able to read for holes before they are not even
there.
> They may not be blocking allowed in Rugby but holes happen without
> them.

I am just curious how many of these teams did you actually see play?
Why would you discourage any team that goes out every game and leaves
it all on the field down to the last play regardless of the score? Is
it that only seasoned teams with tons of talent should play? You may
want to end our terrible season but we keep getting better with each
game and we don't want to see our season end, nor can we wait till
next year!!!
Lastly for an expansion team I am sure you can ask anyone who has been
to New Mexico we have a great fan base that keeps getting better, not
only do we have alot of fans but they are GREAT!!! They love to watch
the game for the love of the game. We have people asking us how they
can be a sponsor or advertiser and the community interest is getting
bigger and bigger each week.
So again I have to ask why would you want to discourage that??!?

You've GOT to be kidding! Even at the highest national levels (Super
League) there's an awful lot of reaching and grabbing going on in
rugby that would make a football coach go nuts.

The tackling in rugby is good for rugby. It would result in touchdowns
in football.

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp <rottpuppie@y...>
wrote:
> RUGGERS make the best Tacklers in my book! And best ball handlers.
They already have good field sence. Can run though a pack of 29 other
people and are able to read for holes before they are not even there.
They may not be blocking allowed in Rugby but holes happen without
them.

I even voted for myself. but it's not about the dead horse. it about opinion
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COFFEEE


I do agree with you Gig. Like I said I never disagreed with you. There are
factors and yes a Coach can do a lot more A HELL of a lot more with a
conditioned player. And Yes Dallas is a bigger city then on let’s say PODUNK
Wisconsin AKA Kenosha. Which was I feel the undoing of the Ice ALONG with other
factors. (but we're not going to go there). The Vixen are in a BIG City like
DALLAS but yet barely make a roster yet are competitive it personally comes down
to getting the word out and getting people to believe in you. They are well
trained and dedicated but they need more talent. AGAIN they are an example.
Another example is the Indy Saberkats of the NWFA. NO Talent and no people and
from what I hear no dedication on some of the players. But then again this is a
city with the Speed in it and here comes the talent pool theory. I will not
disagree with you about the program going on in Dallas, Dawn has it going on,
great program and from what I hear she treats her girls well. KEY IN
  RETENTION of players is treatment. There are tons of reasons as to why teams
are the way they are. But You are right. If you have the numbers, Talent,
Training and conditioning. There is no excuse as to why you get blown out. And
as people say if you don’t like the Game then don’t play. Also there is Don’t
hate the Playa hate the game.





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gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Holy schmokes... no more coffee! In fact, I may need not leave
anything laying around to be found after the trip to the perk-o-
lator!

"Lost time" reclamation is a part of preparation. It starts early in
the season or pre-season, rather. Many may call it "Fundamentals".
As the season progresses, programs tend to fall away from
teaching/maintaining/refreshing fundamentals. I could go on about
this but, I was trying to change the focus of the subject from
pissing about blowouts to doing something about them. If you were to
ask any coach (worth his salt) on this board he would tell you that
he could do alot more with a well conditioned athlete than a player
that you must sub out after 3 plays. Speed & Conditioning mixed in
with solid fundamentals make up years (okay, maybe months in some
cases) in player lost time.(especially at this particular time in
womens football).

As for Location, yes Women playing football is rare. But Texas women
haven't any considerably greater experience at the sport than other
women around the country. You will see that by browsing the rosters
& player info. Just like the other 16 teams in the W.P.F.L., HOUSTON
& DALLAS are made up of Basketball, Volleyball, Softball & Soccer
players. The only Legitimate advantage that I can visualize right
now.... athlete's per capita.

So, if you find yourself on the receiving end of a blowout and you
are fed up with that. You have three options:

1)dwell in self pity and come on the BS board and piss. Then take an
incredible amount of ridicule from the people that prefer to punk a
person that is attempting to water down this sport.

2)do #1 and then ask the team that handed you your ass to play down
to your level <---trust me, this one won't work. You may find the
result quite the opposite!

3)take an initiative and lead some of your other like minded
teammates in your finely tuned customized "your mascot name here"
off season program. Just like Christmas/Chanhukah shopping, now is
the time to start a list!

If you are serious about your craft, #1 & #2 make you violently ill
and furious...

I think julie_aggie said once, "take your ass whoopin like a woman
and use it as tackling fuel....beotch!"

If you have difficulty swallowing this, revisit my "DEFEATIST"
posts!

xoxoxo

-GIG
P.S. I have no clue if I spelled chanhukah correct or not.
No offense intended!





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<rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> I got the point. Guess I needed more Coffee before responding to
you. but it's not the whole story. It's more then preparing. You
know that. There are several factors in how a team is Prepared or
not. It's everything from Coaching to who the players are to
Location location location. We can't draft like the NFL can, We
can't go get High Schoolers from other parts of the country and
intise them with a sclorship (sp) program, and there are few players
who start out as young pupps and go on through H.S.. So it's not
just Prep work prior to the game or season. It's part of the problem
but not all of it. Remember MOST of the women who play full tackle
football never had a helmet on not have they gotten hit. There are a
few girls out there who played HS football and even a few more who
played Rugby (the closest thing to football) who understand the
TOTAL concept of getting hit or handling a ball while getting hit.
So again there is more to the blowouts then just being prepared.
AGAIN not
>  an excuse. Owners should be actively recruting all year round and
should set aside a protion of the funds (if there are any) to
recurtment. I personaly don't think that the leagues should limit
teams from recruting during the season. NOW they should limit new
players from joining the team durning the season but a game is a
good recrutment tool. Invite new prospect onto the field for free
and let them see first hand what it's like. Tryouts should be going
all year long or at least a good portion of the year. OK off
subject.. Back on Subject. Gig I get your point I understand it. I
just think there is more to it. Thats all.
>
>
>
> gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Pupp,
>
> You have completely missed the point! In almost every level except
> peewee and some obscure high school programs....
>
> "fans in other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
> trouncer's job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly
> prepare."
>
> focus baby!
>
> -GIG
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
> <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > Gig. You know Collage is completly diffrent then women's
football.
> You of all people should know that. Collage may have power house
> teams but they are somewhat diffrent. THEY DO LOOSE in the WPFL,
> NWFA and IWFL when there is a power house team they rairly loose
in
> a season You know that. You also know that if a collage team
looses
> it is because of being unprepared. In Women's football it most
> likely becuase of being undersized (Case in point.. Vix and Dal.)
> Undertrained due to coaches who know little but some teams have no
> choice but to hire them or lack of coaches. There is also lack of
> leadership in the ownership, Lack of proper training and knowlage
> and so on and so one... The only excuse I make for the Vixen is
that
> you could put 2 vixens together to make one Dallas line person.
The
> Vixen were out sized, out numbered and out talented. Remember Tx
is
> THE FOOTBALL STATE. The Vixen and Dallas will meet again and
Dallas
> will take home Number 2. Thats a given.
> >
> > gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:for DanniSkow,
> > Thanks for the plug! But, remember... this ISN'T the BSFREE
Board.
> > The bullshit should never stop flowing freely on this board...as
> it
> > hasn't!
> >
> > for rottpuppie & lunatic,
> > For a team in the W.P.F.L. (or the IWFL, I assume...but not
that
> > nwfa) to have a webmaster that isn't a player or fan, would
likely
> > be a rarity. So, in line with that thinking... the motivation to
> > post "My Team Had It's Ass Handed To Them" on the front page of
> the
> > team website may be low on the priority list. No, it's not a
> > professional way of operating and it would be better to spin a
> > positive and post something like "Our girls put up the good
fight,
> > but came up short". But,... it is, what it is!
> >
> > (launtic:) To use a low budget lack of professionalism as a
> > launching point to call an organizaton classless is reckless and
> > incredibly ig-nant.
> >
> > (pupp:) Why didn't anyone whine when Wisconsin beat Temple 65-0?
> Or
> > when Texas beat La-Lafayette 60-3? I'll tell you why,... fans in
> > other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
trouncer's
> > job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly prepare.
> >
> >
> > To exclude an aggresive off-season program is also a part of
poor
> > preparation (<---that statement is to shorten the finger pointed
> at
> > the coaching staff) A player that has a proud 'Hard Work' ethic
> and
> > the determination to execute  an 'above and beyond' program will
> > positively affect the team in ways that will boggle your mind.
> > Houston players do it, I'll bet Dallas & SoCal have aggresive
> > programs.
> >
> > You two are both wrong....all the readers on this board are
dumber
> > for having read your crap!
> >
> > To all reading this:
> > If you want to see the blowouts go away... take November &
> December
> > off, put the beer can down, shut the fuck up and GET TO WORK (in
> > January, that is)!!! <--your coaches will LOVE you for it!
> > (I can use the 'f' word here, this ain't BSFREE!!!!)
> >
> > BTW, GO TO:
> >
> > http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/WPFL-BSFREE-INFO/
> >
> > I promise to watch my language there!
> >
> > The W.P.F.L. POOL continues on, I will resume the NFL Pool as
well!
> > Thank to all those who DIDN'T complain about it not being up
this
> > week....H-town was ghost town this past weekend...tv shopping
was
> a
> > breeze!
> >
> > -GIG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, Dani Skow
> <dannijae@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks Pupp. I didn't think there was any Diamond bashing from
> > anyone affiliated with the Vixen but I didn't want to say
anything
> > just in case. You know, the whole BSFREE thing going on.....
> > >
> > > Have a good one! And thanks for the positive feedback on the
> > Vixen. They're a great bunch of girls..... in my opinion
> anyways.  :)
> > >
> > > The Pupp <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > > Hmmmmmmmmmmm I seem to remember a team who did not update
their
> > Website reguarlarly when they were a loosing team. I seem to
> > remember people griping about other teams in past years because
of
> > CLASSLESSNESS. I seem to remember people whining about how their
> > team didn't get the respect they deserved. And I remember the
> > classless act of player and fans busting on other teams for
> > BLOWOUTS. We I'm going to bust on the Dimonds for their BLOWOUT
> this
> > past weekend. We it nessassary to go that far with starters? Is
it
> > nessassary for for you lunatic tin to go as far as you are in
this
> > classless act of busting on the Vixen. Something I think your
> > missing here is that the Vixen are finaly doing well as a team
and
> > ever since the 2003 they have been a class act and have worked
> hard
> > not only on the field but off it to maintain that quality of
> > sportmenship. UNLIKE other teams I have played in my past years.
> yes
> > the Dallas team is a class act. But I don't think pummeling
teams
> > from begining to end is
> > > showing anyone anything other then bully bullshit. IN MY
> OPINION!
> > The team I played on did it to. And all of the other teams I've
> > played do it as well. ALL teams in all the leagues do it but
that
> > mute. Just because there are more Vixen fans on this site then
> there
> > are Dallas Fans does not give you the right to bash the Vixen.
The
> > Vixen players and Fans have not Bashed the Dallas. You should be
> > giving the Vixen their due for scoring on Dallas something not
> many
> > teams have done. Just remember DALLAS will have their Day just
> like
> > Houston did. Just like the Ice did and just like the Storm did.
> > Sooner or later the their time will end.
> > >
> > > lunatic_tin <lunatic_tin@y...> wrote:Well, your right they
dont
> > have to be told that they're classy, i sure
> > > they know that. However, all im saying is that when your
winning
> > your
> > > vixen are quick to change their website. But after Dallas
> > dismantled
> > > them as of yesterday still no update of the a@# whipping they
> > took. If
> > > your going to bragg about your team then your team should have
> > enough
> > > guts to update and post their losses as well. But it okay
> though,
> > im
> > > sure the Diamonds are okay with being the silent assassins
they
> > are.
> > > Hope they get the opportunity to see you in the championship
> game
> > for
> > > another "A.W"!!!!!!!!!!!
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A .
Dallas........... A very easy schedule..will make playoffs.
                   They slip alittle playing better teams.

So.California.... Playing well tighter games against B Teams..

N.Y.Dazzles...... Schedule did make it look easy. Played well
                   against similar teams.
B Rating...
Los Angeles...... Tough schedule played well..

Indiana.......... Played well against similar level teams.
Minnesota........ Tough schedule Slightly improved.

C Rating..
Houston.......... Dropped off slightly aganst a tough schedle.
Albany........... Coaching changes in season tough yr.
Toledo........... Played well against equal matched teams.
Empire State..... New kid The dazzles were their toughest challenge.


D New Mexico..... Someone end this terrible season please.
   Carolina....... Should be better next year.
   Long Beach..... FEMA Made this Schedule OUCH The Worst.
   Delaware....... Do not blame the schedule What happen to this team ?
   Arizona........ Playing at level that I thought I would never see.
   Cape Fear...... Needs help...

RUGGERS make the best Tacklers in my book! And best ball handlers. They already
have good field sence. Can run though a pack of 29 other people and are able to
read for holes before they are not even there. They may not be blocking allowed
in Rugby but holes happen without them.

vsimon28 <vsimon28@...> wrote:Funny you should mention that....My fiance
played 4 years of "A"
side rugby for Boston College (was actually asked to go out for the
under 23 Nationals), and we were watching game film today, and on
one of her hits (she plays defense...that whole liking to hit rather
than be hit, most of the time), she had a text-book rugby tackle
where it looks like she tried to turn the running back to set up the
ruck, even though she was just trying to strip the ball....Classic!!!

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
<rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> I got the point. Guess I needed more Coffee before responding to
you. but it's not the whole story. It's more then preparing. You
know that. There are several factors in how a team is Prepared or
not. It's everything from Coaching to who the players are to
Location location location. We can't draft like the NFL can, We
can't go get High Schoolers from other parts of the country and
intise them with a sclorship (sp) program, and there are few players
who start out as young pupps and go on through H.S.. So it's not
just Prep work prior to the game or season. It's part of the problem
but not all of it. Remember MOST of the women who play full tackle
football never had a helmet on not have they gotten hit. There are a
few girls out there who played HS football and even a few more who
played Rugby (the closest thing to football) who understand the
TOTAL concept of getting hit or handling a ball while getting hit.
So again there is more to the blowouts then just being prepared.
AGAIN not
>  an excuse. Owners should be actively recruting all year round and
should set aside a protion of the funds (if there are any) to
recurtment. I personaly don't think that the leagues should limit
teams from recruting during the season. NOW they should limit new
players from joining the team durning the season but a game is a
good recrutment tool. Invite new prospect onto the field for free
and let them see first hand what it's like. Tryouts should be going
all year long or at least a good portion of the year. OK off
subject.. Back on Subject. Gig I get your point I understand it. I
just think there is more to it. Thats all.
>
>
>
> gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Pupp,
>
> You have completely missed the point! In almost every level except
> peewee and some obscure high school programs....
>
> "fans in other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
> trouncer's job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly
> prepare."
>
> focus baby!
>
> -GIG
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
> <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > Gig. You know Collage is completly diffrent then women's
football.
> You of all people should know that. Collage may have power house
> teams but they are somewhat diffrent. THEY DO LOOSE in the WPFL,
> NWFA and IWFL when there is a power house team they rairly loose
in
> a season You know that. You also know that if a collage team
looses
> it is because of being unprepared. In Women's football it most
> likely becuase of being undersized (Case in point.. Vix and Dal.)
> Undertrained due to coaches who know little but some teams have no
> choice but to hire them or lack of coaches. There is also lack of
> leadership in the ownership, Lack of proper training and knowlage
> and so on and so one... The only excuse I make for the Vixen is
that
> you could put 2 vixens together to make one Dallas line person.
The
> Vixen were out sized, out numbered and out talented. Remember Tx
is
> THE FOOTBALL STATE. The Vixen and Dallas will meet again and
Dallas
> will take home Number 2. Thats a given.
> >
> > gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:for DanniSkow,
> > Thanks for the plug! But, remember... this ISN'T the BSFREE
Board.
> > The bullshit should never stop flowing freely on this board...as
> it
> > hasn't!
> >
> > for rottpuppie & lunatic,
> > For a team in the W.P.F.L. (or the IWFL, I assume...but not
that
> > nwfa) to have a webmaster that isn't a player or fan, would
likely
> > be a rarity. So, in line with that thinking... the motivation to
> > post "My Team Had It's Ass Handed To Them" on the front page of
> the
> > team website may be low on the priority list. No, it's not a
> > professional way of operating and it would be better to spin a
> > positive and post something like "Our girls put up the good
fight,
> > but came up short". But,... it is, what it is!
> >
> > (launtic:) To use a low budget lack of professionalism as a
> > launching point to call an organizaton classless is reckless and
> > incredibly ig-nant.
> >
> > (pupp:) Why didn't anyone whine when Wisconsin beat Temple 65-0?
> Or
> > when Texas beat La-Lafayette 60-3? I'll tell you why,... fans in
> > other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
trouncer's
> > job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly prepare.
> >
> >
> > To exclude an aggresive off-season program is also a part of
poor
> > preparation (<---that statement is to shorten the finger pointed
> at
> > the coaching staff) A player that has a proud 'Hard Work' ethic
> and
> > the determination to execute  an 'above and beyond' program will
> > positively affect the team in ways that will boggle your mind.
> > Houston players do it, I'll bet Dallas & SoCal have aggresive
> > programs.
> >
> > You two are both wrong....all the readers on this board are
dumber
> > for having read your crap!
> >
> > To all reading this:
> > If you want to see the blowouts go away... take November &
> December
> > off, put the beer can down, shut the fuck up and GET TO WORK (in
> > January, that is)!!! <--your coaches will LOVE you for it!
> > (I can use the 'f' word here, this ain't BSFREE!!!!)
> >
> > BTW, GO TO:
> >
> > http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/WPFL-BSFREE-INFO/
> >
> > I promise to watch my language there!
> >
> > The W.P.F.L. POOL continues on, I will resume the NFL Pool as
well!
> > Thank to all those who DIDN'T complain about it not being up
this
> > week....H-town was ghost town this past weekend...tv shopping
was
> a
> > breeze!
> >
> > -GIG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, Dani Skow
> <dannijae@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks Pupp. I didn't think there was any Diamond bashing from
> > anyone affiliated with the Vixen but I didn't want to say
anything
> > just in case. You know, the whole BSFREE thing going on.....
> > >
> > > Have a good one! And thanks for the positive feedback on the
> > Vixen. They're a great bunch of girls..... in my opinion
> anyways.  :)
> > >
> > > The Pupp <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > > Hmmmmmmmmmmm I seem to remember a team who did not update
their
> > Website reguarlarly when they were a loosing team. I seem to
> > remember people griping about other teams in past years because
of
> > CLASSLESSNESS. I seem to remember people whining about how their
> > team didn't get the respect they deserved. And I remember the
> > classless act of player and fans busting on other teams for
> > BLOWOUTS. We I'm going to bust on the Dimonds for their BLOWOUT
> this
> > past weekend. We it nessassary to go that far with starters? Is
it
> > nessassary for for you lunatic tin to go as far as you are in
this
> > classless act of busting on the Vixen. Something I think your
> > missing here is that the Vixen are finaly doing well as a team
and
> > ever since the 2003 they have been a class act and have worked
> hard
> > not only on the field but off it to maintain that quality of
> > sportmenship. UNLIKE other teams I have played in my past years.
> yes
> > the Dallas team is a class act. But I don't think pummeling
teams
> > from begining to end is
> > > showing anyone anything other then bully bullshit. IN MY
> OPINION!
> > The team I played on did it to. And all of the other teams I've
> > played do it as well. ALL teams in all the leagues do it but
that
> > mute. Just because there are more Vixen fans on this site then
> there
> > are Dallas Fans does not give you the right to bash the Vixen.
The
> > Vixen players and Fans have not Bashed the Dallas. You should be
> > giving the Vixen their due for scoring on Dallas something not
> many
> > teams have done. Just remember DALLAS will have their Day just
> like
> > Houston did. Just like the Ice did and just like the Storm did.
> > Sooner or later the their time will end.
> > >
> > > lunatic_tin <lunatic_tin@y...> wrote:Well, your right they
dont
> > have to be told that they're classy, i sure
> > > they know that. However, all im saying is that when your
winning
> > your
> > > vixen are quick to change their website. But after Dallas
> > dismantled
> > > them as of yesterday still no update of the a@# whipping they
> > took. If
> > > your going to bragg about your team then your team should have
> > enough
> > > guts to update and post their losses as well. But it okay
> though,
> > im
> > > sure the Diamonds are okay with being the silent assassins
they
> > are.
> > > Hope they get the opportunity to see you in the championship
> game
> > for
> > > another "A.W"!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
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Even when you are losing (um like us last year) you are still out
there playing football :O)

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, gig023 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
> Holy schmokes... no more coffee! In fact, I may need not leave
> anything laying around to be found after the trip to the perk-o-
> lator!
>
> "Lost time" reclamation is a part of preparation. It starts early
in
> the season or pre-season, rather. Many may call it "Fundamentals".
> As the season progresses, programs tend to fall away from
> teaching/maintaining/refreshing fundamentals. I could go on about
> this but, I was trying to change the focus of the subject from
> pissing about blowouts to doing something about them. If you were
to
> ask any coach (worth his salt) on this board he would tell you
that
> he could do alot more with a well conditioned athlete than a
player
> that you must sub out after 3 plays. Speed & Conditioning mixed in
> with solid fundamentals make up years (okay, maybe months in some
> cases) in player lost time.(especially at this particular time in
> womens football).
>
> As for Location, yes Women playing football is rare. But Texas
women
> haven't any considerably greater experience at the sport than
other
> women around the country. You will see that by browsing the
rosters
> & player info. Just like the other 16 teams in the W.P.F.L.,
HOUSTON
> & DALLAS are made up of Basketball, Volleyball, Softball & Soccer
> players. The only Legitimate advantage that I can visualize right
> now.... athlete's per capita.
>
> So, if you find yourself on the receiving end of a blowout and you
> are fed up with that. You have three options:
>
> 1)dwell in self pity and come on the BS board and piss. Then take
an
> incredible amount of ridicule from the people that prefer to punk
a
> person that is attempting to water down this sport.
>
> 2)do #1 and then ask the team that handed you your ass to play
down
> to your level <---trust me, this one won't work. You may find the
> result quite the opposite!
>
> 3)take an initiative and lead some of your other like minded
> teammates in your finely tuned customized "your mascot name here"
> off season program. Just like Christmas/Chanhukah shopping, now is
> the time to start a list!
>
> If you are serious about your craft, #1 & #2 make you violently
ill
> and furious...
>
> I think julie_aggie said once, "take your ass whoopin like a woman
> and use it as tackling fuel....beotch!"
>
>  If you have difficulty swallowing this, revisit my "DEFEATIST"
> posts!
>
> xoxoxo
>
> -GIG
> P.S. I have no clue if I spelled chanhukah correct or not.
> No offense intended!
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
> <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > I got the point. Guess I needed more Coffee before responding to
> you. but it's not the whole story. It's more then preparing. You
> know that. There are several factors in how a team is Prepared or
> not. It's everything from Coaching to who the players are to
> Location location location. We can't draft like the NFL can, We
> can't go get High Schoolers from other parts of the country and
> intise them with a sclorship (sp) program, and there are few
players
> who start out as young pupps and go on through H.S.. So it's not
> just Prep work prior to the game or season. It's part of the
problem
> but not all of it. Remember MOST of the women who play full tackle
> football never had a helmet on not have they gotten hit. There are
a
> few girls out there who played HS football and even a few more who
> played Rugby (the closest thing to football) who understand the
> TOTAL concept of getting hit or handling a ball while getting hit.
> So again there is more to the blowouts then just being prepared.
> AGAIN not
> >  an excuse. Owners should be actively recruting all year round
and
> should set aside a protion of the funds (if there are any) to
> recurtment. I personaly don't think that the leagues should limit
> teams from recruting during the season. NOW they should limit new
> players from joining the team durning the season but a game is a
> good recrutment tool. Invite new prospect onto the field for free
> and let them see first hand what it's like. Tryouts should be
going
> all year long or at least a good portion of the year. OK off
> subject.. Back on Subject. Gig I get your point I understand it. I
> just think there is more to it. Thats all.
> >
> >
> >
> > gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > Pupp,
> >
> > You have completely missed the point! In almost every level
except
> > peewee and some obscure high school programs....
> >
> > "fans in other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
> > trouncer's job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly
> > prepare."
> >
> > focus baby!
> >
> > -GIG
> >
> > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
> > <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > > Gig. You know Collage is completly diffrent then women's
> football.
> > You of all people should know that. Collage may have power house
> > teams but they are somewhat diffrent. THEY DO LOOSE in the WPFL,
> > NWFA and IWFL when there is a power house team they rairly loose
> in
> > a season You know that. You also know that if a collage team
> looses
> > it is because of being unprepared. In Women's football it most
> > likely becuase of being undersized (Case in point.. Vix and
Dal.)
> > Undertrained due to coaches who know little but some teams have
no
> > choice but to hire them or lack of coaches. There is also lack
of
> > leadership in the ownership, Lack of proper training and
knowlage
> > and so on and so one... The only excuse I make for the Vixen is
> that
> > you could put 2 vixens together to make one Dallas line person.
> The
> > Vixen were out sized, out numbered and out talented. Remember Tx
> is
> > THE FOOTBALL STATE. The Vixen and Dallas will meet again and
> Dallas
> > will take home Number 2. Thats a given.
> > >
> > > gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:for DanniSkow,
> > > Thanks for the plug! But, remember... this ISN'T the BSFREE
> Board.
> > > The bullshit should never stop flowing freely on this
board...as
> > it
> > > hasn't!
> > >
> > > for rottpuppie & lunatic,
> > > For a team in the W.P.F.L. (or the IWFL, I assume...but not
> that
> > > nwfa) to have a webmaster that isn't a player or fan, would
> likely
> > > be a rarity. So, in line with that thinking... the motivation
to
> > > post "My Team Had It's Ass Handed To Them" on the front page
of
> > the
> > > team website may be low on the priority list. No, it's not a
> > > professional way of operating and it would be better to spin a
> > > positive and post something like "Our girls put up the good
> fight,
> > > but came up short". But,... it is, what it is!
> > >
> > > (launtic:) To use a low budget lack of professionalism as a
> > > launching point to call an organizaton classless is reckless
and
> > > incredibly ig-nant.
> > >
> > > (pupp:) Why didn't anyone whine when Wisconsin beat Temple 65-
0?
> > Or
> > > when Texas beat La-Lafayette 60-3? I'll tell you why,... fans
in
> > > other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
> trouncer's
> > > job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly prepare.
> > >
> > >
> > > To exclude an aggresive off-season program is also a part of
> poor
> > > preparation (<---that statement is to shorten the finger
pointed
> > at
> > > the coaching staff) A player that has a proud 'Hard Work'
ethic
> > and
> > > the determination to execute  an 'above and beyond' program
will
> > > positively affect the team in ways that will boggle your mind.
> > > Houston players do it, I'll bet Dallas & SoCal have aggresive
> > > programs.
> > >
> > > You two are both wrong....all the readers on this board are
> dumber
> > > for having read your crap!
> > >
> > > To all reading this:
> > > If you want to see the blowouts go away... take November &
> > December
> > > off, put the beer can down, shut the fuck up and GET TO WORK
(in
> > > January, that is)!!! <--your coaches will LOVE you for it!
> > > (I can use the 'f' word here, this ain't BSFREE!!!!)
> > >
> > > BTW, GO TO:
> > >
> > > http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/WPFL-BSFREE-INFO/
> > >
> > > I promise to watch my language there!
> > >
> > > The W.P.F.L. POOL continues on, I will resume the NFL Pool as
> well!
> > > Thank to all those who DIDN'T complain about it not being up
> this
> > > week....H-town was ghost town this past weekend...tv shopping
> was
> > a
> > > breeze!
> > >
> > > -GIG
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, Dani Skow
> > <dannijae@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Thanks Pupp. I didn't think there was any Diamond bashing
from
> > > anyone affiliated with the Vixen but I didn't want to say
> anything
> > > just in case. You know, the whole BSFREE thing going on.....
> > > >
> > > > Have a good one! And thanks for the positive feedback on the
> > > Vixen. They're a great bunch of girls..... in my opinion
> > anyways.  :)
> > > >
> > > > The Pupp <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmm I seem to remember a team who did not update
> their
> > > Website reguarlarly when they were a loosing team. I seem to
> > > remember people griping about other teams in past years
because
> of
> > > CLASSLESSNESS. I seem to remember people whining about how
their
> > > team didn't get the respect they deserved. And I remember the
> > > classless act of player and fans busting on other teams for
> > > BLOWOUTS. We I'm going to bust on the Dimonds for their
BLOWOUT
> > this
> > > past weekend. We it nessassary to go that far with starters?
Is
> it
> > > nessassary for for you lunatic tin to go as far as you are in
> this
> > > classless act of busting on the Vixen. Something I think your
> > > missing here is that the Vixen are finaly doing well as a team
> and
> > > ever since the 2003 they have been a class act and have worked
> > hard
> > > not only on the field but off it to maintain that quality of
> > > sportmenship. UNLIKE other teams I have played in my past
years.
> > yes
> > > the Dallas team is a class act. But I don't think pummeling
> teams
> > > from begining to end is
> > > > showing anyone anything other then bully bullshit. IN MY
> > OPINION!
> > > The team I played on did it to. And all of the other teams
I've
> > > played do it as well. ALL teams in all the leagues do it but
> that
> > > mute. Just because there are more Vixen fans on this site then
> > there
> > > are Dallas Fans does not give you the right to bash the Vixen.
> The
> > > Vixen players and Fans have not Bashed the Dallas. You should
be
> > > giving the Vixen their due for scoring on Dallas something not
> > many
> > > teams have done. Just remember DALLAS will have their Day just
> > like
> > > Houston did. Just like the Ice did and just like the Storm
did.
> > > Sooner or later the their time will end.
> > > >
> > > > lunatic_tin <lunatic_tin@y...> wrote:Well, your right they
> dont
> > > have to be told that they're classy, i sure
> > > > they know that. However, all im saying is that when your
> winning
> > > your
> > > > vixen are quick to change their website. But after Dallas
> > > dismantled
> > > > them as of yesterday still no update of the a@# whipping
they
> > > took. If
> > > > your going to bragg about your team then your team should
have
> > > enough
> > > > guts to update and post their losses as well. But it okay
> > though,
> > > im
> > > > sure the Diamonds are okay with being the silent assassins
> they
> > > are.
> > > > Hope they get the opportunity to see you in the championship
> > game
> > > for
> > > > another "A.W"!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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Holy schmokes... no more coffee! In fact, I may need not leave
anything laying around to be found after the trip to the perk-o-
lator!

"Lost time" reclamation is a part of preparation. It starts early in
the season or pre-season, rather. Many may call it "Fundamentals".
As the season progresses, programs tend to fall away from
teaching/maintaining/refreshing fundamentals. I could go on about
this but, I was trying to change the focus of the subject from
pissing about blowouts to doing something about them. If you were to
ask any coach (worth his salt) on this board he would tell you that
he could do alot more with a well conditioned athlete than a player
that you must sub out after 3 plays. Speed & Conditioning mixed in
with solid fundamentals make up years (okay, maybe months in some
cases) in player lost time.(especially at this particular time in
womens football).

As for Location, yes Women playing football is rare. But Texas women
haven't any considerably greater experience at the sport than other
women around the country. You will see that by browsing the rosters
& player info. Just like the other 16 teams in the W.P.F.L., HOUSTON
& DALLAS are made up of Basketball, Volleyball, Softball & Soccer
players. The only Legitimate advantage that I can visualize right
now.... athlete's per capita.

So, if you find yourself on the receiving end of a blowout and you
are fed up with that. You have three options:

1)dwell in self pity and come on the BS board and piss. Then take an
incredible amount of ridicule from the people that prefer to punk a
person that is attempting to water down this sport.

2)do #1 and then ask the team that handed you your ass to play down
to your level <---trust me, this one won't work. You may find the
result quite the opposite!

3)take an initiative and lead some of your other like minded
teammates in your finely tuned customized "your mascot name here"
off season program. Just like Christmas/Chanhukah shopping, now is
the time to start a list!

If you are serious about your craft, #1 & #2 make you violently ill
and furious...

I think julie_aggie said once, "take your ass whoopin like a woman
and use it as tackling fuel....beotch!"

  If you have difficulty swallowing this, revisit my "DEFEATIST"
posts!

xoxoxo

-GIG
P.S. I have no clue if I spelled chanhukah correct or not.
No offense intended!





--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
<rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> I got the point. Guess I needed more Coffee before responding to
you. but it's not the whole story. It's more then preparing. You
know that. There are several factors in how a team is Prepared or
not. It's everything from Coaching to who the players are to
Location location location. We can't draft like the NFL can, We
can't go get High Schoolers from other parts of the country and
intise them with a sclorship (sp) program, and there are few players
who start out as young pupps and go on through H.S.. So it's not
just Prep work prior to the game or season. It's part of the problem
but not all of it. Remember MOST of the women who play full tackle
football never had a helmet on not have they gotten hit. There are a
few girls out there who played HS football and even a few more who
played Rugby (the closest thing to football) who understand the
TOTAL concept of getting hit or handling a ball while getting hit.
So again there is more to the blowouts then just being prepared.
AGAIN not
>  an excuse. Owners should be actively recruting all year round and
should set aside a protion of the funds (if there are any) to
recurtment. I personaly don't think that the leagues should limit
teams from recruting during the season. NOW they should limit new
players from joining the team durning the season but a game is a
good recrutment tool. Invite new prospect onto the field for free
and let them see first hand what it's like. Tryouts should be going
all year long or at least a good portion of the year. OK off
subject.. Back on Subject. Gig I get your point I understand it. I
just think there is more to it. Thats all.
>
>
>
> gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Pupp,
>
> You have completely missed the point! In almost every level except
> peewee and some obscure high school programs....
>
> "fans in other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
> trouncer's job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly
> prepare."
>
> focus baby!
>
> -GIG
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
> <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > Gig. You know Collage is completly diffrent then women's
football.
> You of all people should know that. Collage may have power house
> teams but they are somewhat diffrent. THEY DO LOOSE in the WPFL,
> NWFA and IWFL when there is a power house team they rairly loose
in
> a season You know that. You also know that if a collage team
looses
> it is because of being unprepared. In Women's football it most
> likely becuase of being undersized (Case in point.. Vix and Dal.)
> Undertrained due to coaches who know little but some teams have no
> choice but to hire them or lack of coaches. There is also lack of
> leadership in the ownership, Lack of proper training and knowlage
> and so on and so one... The only excuse I make for the Vixen is
that
> you could put 2 vixens together to make one Dallas line person.
The
> Vixen were out sized, out numbered and out talented. Remember Tx
is
> THE FOOTBALL STATE. The Vixen and Dallas will meet again and
Dallas
> will take home Number 2. Thats a given.
> >
> > gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:for DanniSkow,
> > Thanks for the plug! But, remember... this ISN'T the BSFREE
Board.
> > The bullshit should never stop flowing freely on this board...as
> it
> > hasn't!
> >
> > for rottpuppie & lunatic,
> > For a team in the W.P.F.L. (or the IWFL, I assume...but not
that
> > nwfa) to have a webmaster that isn't a player or fan, would
likely
> > be a rarity. So, in line with that thinking... the motivation to
> > post "My Team Had It's Ass Handed To Them" on the front page of
> the
> > team website may be low on the priority list. No, it's not a
> > professional way of operating and it would be better to spin a
> > positive and post something like "Our girls put up the good
fight,
> > but came up short". But,... it is, what it is!
> >
> > (launtic:) To use a low budget lack of professionalism as a
> > launching point to call an organizaton classless is reckless and
> > incredibly ig-nant.
> >
> > (pupp:) Why didn't anyone whine when Wisconsin beat Temple 65-0?
> Or
> > when Texas beat La-Lafayette 60-3? I'll tell you why,... fans in
> > other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
trouncer's
> > job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly prepare.
> >
> >
> > To exclude an aggresive off-season program is also a part of
poor
> > preparation (<---that statement is to shorten the finger pointed
> at
> > the coaching staff) A player that has a proud 'Hard Work' ethic
> and
> > the determination to execute  an 'above and beyond' program will
> > positively affect the team in ways that will boggle your mind.
> > Houston players do it, I'll bet Dallas & SoCal have aggresive
> > programs.
> >
> > You two are both wrong....all the readers on this board are
dumber
> > for having read your crap!
> >
> > To all reading this:
> > If you want to see the blowouts go away... take November &
> December
> > off, put the beer can down, shut the fuck up and GET TO WORK (in
> > January, that is)!!! <--your coaches will LOVE you for it!
> > (I can use the 'f' word here, this ain't BSFREE!!!!)
> >
> > BTW, GO TO:
> >
> > http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/WPFL-BSFREE-INFO/
> >
> > I promise to watch my language there!
> >
> > The W.P.F.L. POOL continues on, I will resume the NFL Pool as
well!
> > Thank to all those who DIDN'T complain about it not being up
this
> > week....H-town was ghost town this past weekend...tv shopping
was
> a
> > breeze!
> >
> > -GIG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, Dani Skow
> <dannijae@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks Pupp. I didn't think there was any Diamond bashing from
> > anyone affiliated with the Vixen but I didn't want to say
anything
> > just in case. You know, the whole BSFREE thing going on.....
> > >
> > > Have a good one! And thanks for the positive feedback on the
> > Vixen. They're a great bunch of girls..... in my opinion
> anyways.  :)
> > >
> > > The Pupp <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > > Hmmmmmmmmmmm I seem to remember a team who did not update
their
> > Website reguarlarly when they were a loosing team. I seem to
> > remember people griping about other teams in past years because
of
> > CLASSLESSNESS. I seem to remember people whining about how their
> > team didn't get the respect they deserved. And I remember the
> > classless act of player and fans busting on other teams for
> > BLOWOUTS. We I'm going to bust on the Dimonds for their BLOWOUT
> this
> > past weekend. We it nessassary to go that far with starters? Is
it
> > nessassary for for you lunatic tin to go as far as you are in
this
> > classless act of busting on the Vixen. Something I think your
> > missing here is that the Vixen are finaly doing well as a team
and
> > ever since the 2003 they have been a class act and have worked
> hard
> > not only on the field but off it to maintain that quality of
> > sportmenship. UNLIKE other teams I have played in my past years.
> yes
> > the Dallas team is a class act. But I don't think pummeling
teams
> > from begining to end is
> > > showing anyone anything other then bully bullshit. IN MY
> OPINION!
> > The team I played on did it to. And all of the other teams I've
> > played do it as well. ALL teams in all the leagues do it but
that
> > mute. Just because there are more Vixen fans on this site then
> there
> > are Dallas Fans does not give you the right to bash the Vixen.
The
> > Vixen players and Fans have not Bashed the Dallas. You should be
> > giving the Vixen their due for scoring on Dallas something not
> many
> > teams have done. Just remember DALLAS will have their Day just
> like
> > Houston did. Just like the Ice did and just like the Storm did.
> > Sooner or later the their time will end.
> > >
> > > lunatic_tin <lunatic_tin@y...> wrote:Well, your right they
dont
> > have to be told that they're classy, i sure
> > > they know that. However, all im saying is that when your
winning
> > your
> > > vixen are quick to change their website. But after Dallas
> > dismantled
> > > them as of yesterday still no update of the a@# whipping they
> > took. If
> > > your going to bragg about your team then your team should have
> > enough
> > > guts to update and post their losses as well. But it okay
> though,
> > im
> > > sure the Diamonds are okay with being the silent assassins
they
> > are.
> > > Hope they get the opportunity to see you in the championship
> game
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Funny you should mention that....My fiance played 4 years of "A"
side rugby for Boston College (was actually asked to go out for the
under 23 Nationals), and we were watching game film today, and on
one of her hits (she plays defense...that whole liking to hit rather
than be hit, most of the time), she had a text-book rugby tackle
where it looks like she tried to turn the running back to set up the
ruck, even though she was just trying to strip the ball....Classic!!!

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
<rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> I got the point. Guess I needed more Coffee before responding to
you. but it's not the whole story. It's more then preparing. You
know that. There are several factors in how a team is Prepared or
not. It's everything from Coaching to who the players are to
Location location location. We can't draft like the NFL can, We
can't go get High Schoolers from other parts of the country and
intise them with a sclorship (sp) program, and there are few players
who start out as young pupps and go on through H.S.. So it's not
just Prep work prior to the game or season. It's part of the problem
but not all of it. Remember MOST of the women who play full tackle
football never had a helmet on not have they gotten hit. There are a
few girls out there who played HS football and even a few more who
played Rugby (the closest thing to football) who understand the
TOTAL concept of getting hit or handling a ball while getting hit.
So again there is more to the blowouts then just being prepared.
AGAIN not
>  an excuse. Owners should be actively recruting all year round and
should set aside a protion of the funds (if there are any) to
recurtment. I personaly don't think that the leagues should limit
teams from recruting during the season. NOW they should limit new
players from joining the team durning the season but a game is a
good recrutment tool. Invite new prospect onto the field for free
and let them see first hand what it's like. Tryouts should be going
all year long or at least a good portion of the year. OK off
subject.. Back on Subject. Gig I get your point I understand it. I
just think there is more to it. Thats all.
>
>
>
> gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Pupp,
>
> You have completely missed the point! In almost every level except
> peewee and some obscure high school programs....
>
> "fans in other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
> trouncer's job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly
> prepare."
>
> focus baby!
>
> -GIG
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, The Pupp
> <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > Gig. You know Collage is completly diffrent then women's
football.
> You of all people should know that. Collage may have power house
> teams but they are somewhat diffrent. THEY DO LOOSE in the WPFL,
> NWFA and IWFL when there is a power house team they rairly loose
in
> a season You know that. You also know that if a collage team
looses
> it is because of being unprepared. In Women's football it most
> likely becuase of being undersized (Case in point.. Vix and Dal.)
> Undertrained due to coaches who know little but some teams have no
> choice but to hire them or lack of coaches. There is also lack of
> leadership in the ownership, Lack of proper training and knowlage
> and so on and so one... The only excuse I make for the Vixen is
that
> you could put 2 vixens together to make one Dallas line person.
The
> Vixen were out sized, out numbered and out talented. Remember Tx
is
> THE FOOTBALL STATE. The Vixen and Dallas will meet again and
Dallas
> will take home Number 2. Thats a given.
> >
> > gig023 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:for DanniSkow,
> > Thanks for the plug! But, remember... this ISN'T the BSFREE
Board.
> > The bullshit should never stop flowing freely on this board...as
> it
> > hasn't!
> >
> > for rottpuppie & lunatic,
> > For a team in the W.P.F.L. (or the IWFL, I assume...but not
that
> > nwfa) to have a webmaster that isn't a player or fan, would
likely
> > be a rarity. So, in line with that thinking... the motivation to
> > post "My Team Had It's Ass Handed To Them" on the front page of
> the
> > team website may be low on the priority list. No, it's not a
> > professional way of operating and it would be better to spin a
> > positive and post something like "Our girls put up the good
fight,
> > but came up short". But,... it is, what it is!
> >
> > (launtic:) To use a low budget lack of professionalism as a
> > launching point to call an organizaton classless is reckless and
> > incredibly ig-nant.
> >
> > (pupp:) Why didn't anyone whine when Wisconsin beat Temple 65-0?
> Or
> > when Texas beat La-Lafayette 60-3? I'll tell you why,... fans in
> > other levels of football UNDERSTAND that it is NOT the
trouncer's
> > job to take it easy on the team that didn't properly prepare.
> >
> >
> > To exclude an aggresive off-season program is also a part of
poor
> > preparation (<---that statement is to shorten the finger pointed
> at
> > the coaching staff) A player that has a proud 'Hard Work' ethic
> and
> > the determination to execute  an 'above and beyond' program will
> > positively affect the team in ways that will boggle your mind.
> > Houston players do it, I'll bet Dallas & SoCal have aggresive
> > programs.
> >
> > You two are both wrong....all the readers on this board are
dumber
> > for having read your crap!
> >
> > To all reading this:
> > If you want to see the blowouts go away... take November &
> December
> > off, put the beer can down, shut the fuck up and GET TO WORK (in
> > January, that is)!!! <--your coaches will LOVE you for it!
> > (I can use the 'f' word here, this ain't BSFREE!!!!)
> >
> > BTW, GO TO:
> >
> > http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/WPFL-BSFREE-INFO/
> >
> > I promise to watch my language there!
> >
> > The W.P.F.L. POOL continues on, I will resume the NFL Pool as
well!
> > Thank to all those who DIDN'T complain about it not being up
this
> > week....H-town was ghost town this past weekend...tv shopping
was
> a
> > breeze!
> >
> > -GIG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, Dani Skow
> <dannijae@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks Pupp. I didn't think there was any Diamond bashing from
> > anyone affiliated with the Vixen but I didn't want to say
anything
> > just in case. You know, the whole BSFREE thing going on.....
> > >
> > > Have a good one! And thanks for the positive feedback on the
> > Vixen. They're a great bunch of girls..... in my opinion
> anyways.  :)
> > >
> > > The Pupp <rottpuppie@y...> wrote:
> > > Hmmmmmmmmmmm I seem to remember a team who did not update
their
> > Website reguarlarly when they were a loosing team. I seem to
> > remember people griping about other teams in past years because
of
> > CLASSLESSNESS. I seem to remember people whining about how their
> > team didn't get the respect they deserved. And I remember the
> > classless act of player and fans busting on other teams for
> > BLOWOUTS. We I'm going to bust on the Dimonds for their BLOWOUT
> this
> > past weekend. We it nessassary to go that far with starters? Is
it
> > nessassary for for you lunatic tin to go as far as you are in
this
> > classless act of busting on the Vixen. Something I think your
> > missing here is that the Vixen are finaly doing well as a team
and
> > ever since the 2003 they have been a class act and have worked
> hard
> > not only on the field but off it to maintain that quality of
> > sportmenship. UNLIKE other teams I have played in my past years.
> yes
> > the Dallas team is a class act. But I don't think pummeling
teams
> > from begining to end is
> > > showing anyone anything other then bully bullshit. IN MY
> OPINION!
> > The team I played on did it to. And all of the other teams I've
> > played do it as well. ALL teams in all the leagues do it but
that
> > mute. Just because there are more Vixen fans on this site then
> there
> > are Dallas Fans does not give you the right to bash the Vixen.
The
> > Vixen players and Fans have not Bashed the Dallas. You should be
> > giving the Vixen their due for scoring on Dallas something not
> many
> > teams have done. Just remember DALLAS will have their Day just
> like
> > Houston did. Just like the Ice did and just like the Storm did.
> > Sooner or later the their time will end.
> > >
> > > lunatic_tin <lunatic_tin@y...> wrote:Well, your right they
dont
> > have to be told that they're classy, i sure
> > > they know that. However, all im saying is that when your
winning
> > your
> > > vixen are quick to change their website. But after Dallas
> > dismantled
> > > them as of yesterday still no update of the a@# whipping they
> > took. If
> > > your going to bragg about your team then your team should have
> > enough
> > > guts to update and post their losses as well. But it okay
> though,
> > im
> > > sure the Diamonds are okay with being the silent assassins
they
> > are.
> > > Hope they get the opportunity to see you in the championship
> game
> > for
> > > another "A.W"!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >
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