If anyone has any questions about footyballgirls "Accusations" feel
free to email me and I will answer all inquires.

Sharie05@...


  --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "footyballgirl"
<footyballgirl@y...> wrote:
>
> That is nothin compared what was emailed to me by this idiot. It is
> funny how it all came from when i expressed my problem with coach
> travis coaching for the roar not to hard to figure out who is
> sending that stuff and how they owner of the roar slammed coach
> terry and lied about him. I am not making this up i have the emails
> so when u reply to this as i am sure u will i do have proof. I know
> the owner of the roar will post on the site how i'm negative and
all
> but after the emails that were sent to me by her i can't believe
> they let her into the wpfl. If anyone would like to see the emails
> feel free to let me know. In her emails she talks about nikia alot
> so i would love to hear from her because some of the things she
said
> about coach terry were just lies. Am i defending coach terry? Yes
> because i emailed him and he said he was not going to post on this
> board to what the roar owner said about him and hopes that his rep.
> and things he has done to help promote womans football will be
> enough for people even though he understands that some may believe
> the rumors but hopes they won't. Take it from me don't believe a
> word the roar owner says and coach if you read this i know u told
me
> to ignore it but i feel something should be said after all u did'nt
> deserve all of that crap after what you have done to help the team
> and the wpfl. To the former sting players he did say to me to feel
> free and email him or call him and at least talk to him if u
believe
> all of the rumors u should at least talk to him. To the roar owner
u
> slammed him and told lies about him which u can't say u did'nt i
> have the emails but to call another team and do it is way way wrong
> and i wish i could report u to the league cause u would desrve it.
>
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, dani Skow
<dannijae@y...>
> wrote:
> > Didn't yo Momma ever teach not to talk to NO woman like that?
Just
> wanna let you know that it's a good thing the only thing we can see
> of you is your words on my computer screen. Grow up.
> > Richard <richseaver@y...> wrote:
> > Where'd U go? You start trouble then leave......... cum back dyke
> I
> > need some fun :P
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In a message dated 3/31/2005 5:12:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
dannijae@... writes:

"Those  Who Anger You - Control You"


I like that.

Peace everyone.


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I guess I haven't a clue to what you're talking about but it seems to have riled
you up. The only league I have been following is the WPFL. So far I am very
happy with it. I am a "newbie" player this year but the coaches we have are
pretty cool for the most part.

I must say I am sorry about all of the back talk and whatnot that you're dealing
with. I have learned to let things go as I get older. Don't get me wrong..... I
am still a hothead at times. It's just not worth it to be peeved off all of the
time. What kind of life is that, you know? I will find out this upcoming season
if my temper holds true to me.

I wish the best to you and the wrongdoing that has been done. Just try not to
let someone else's anger create a monster within yourself. Let yourself be known
in positive ways. Sometimes justice is never served but you can walk out a
bigger person if you choose.

So just remember to walk with your head high and be happy! Good luck with your
situation. Trust me, I know it's easier said than done.

Just some aspiring words that help me: "Those Who Anger You - Control You" .....
I saw that off a church billboard of all things and I don't even go to church! 
:)

footyballgirl <footyballgirl@...> wrote:

That is nothin compared what was emailed to me by this idiot. It is
funny how it all came from when i expressed my problem with coach
travis coaching for the roar not to hard to figure out who is
sending that stuff and how they owner of the roar slammed coach
terry and lied about him. I am not making this up i have the emails
so when u reply to this as i am sure u will i do have proof. I know
the owner of the roar will post on the site how i'm negative and all
but after the emails that were sent to me by her i can't believe
they let her into the wpfl. If anyone would like to see the emails
feel free to let me know. In her emails she talks about nikia alot
so i would love to hear from her because some of the things she said
about coach terry were just lies. Am i defending coach terry? Yes
because i emailed him and he said he was not going to post on this
board to what the roar owner said about him and hopes that his rep.
and things he has done to help promote womans football will be
enough for people even though he understands that some may believe
the rumors but hopes they won't. Take it from me don't believe a
word the roar owner says and coach if you read this i know u told me
to ignore it but i feel something should be said after all u did'nt
deserve all of that crap after what you have done to help the team
and the wpfl. To the former sting players he did say to me to feel
free and email him or call him and at least talk to him if u believe
all of the rumors u should at least talk to him. To the roar owner u
slammed him and told lies about him which u can't say u did'nt i
have the emails but to call another team and do it is way way wrong
and i wish i could report u to the league cause u would desrve it.


--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, dani Skow <dannijae@y...>
wrote:
> Didn't yo Momma ever teach not to talk to NO woman like that? Just
wanna let you know that it's a good thing the only thing we can see
of you is your words on my computer screen. Grow up.
> Richard <richseaver@y...> wrote:
> Where'd U go? You start trouble then leave......... cum back dyke
I
> need some fun :P
>
>
>
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The iwfl is broken into regions across the U.S., there are women in
charge of these regions.  As far as teams go, yes I am sure they
vote on stuff sometimes.

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, wmnfootballfan
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> What structure do they have? are you saying the teams don't get to
> vote on stuff?
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, babybooadmirer
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >
> > There is a structure, but not followed (only speaking in regards
> to
> > iwfl)at all times. Even if the structure was fair, you can't do
it
> > all.
> >
> > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, wmnfootballfan
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > aren't the wpfl and iwfl run by the teams themselves? I
thought
> > both
> > > those leagues vote on everything they do.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, babybooadmirer
> > > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is one of many problems the LEAGUE OWNERS have.  The
> LEAGUE
> > > > OWNERS needs to hire a staff similar to other league's for
the
> > > > purpose of handling different aspects of the business, along
> > with
> > > an
> > > > owner to take over their team, so they can focus on business
> at
> > > > hand. Instead the LEAGUE OWNERS chooses to be in control of
> > > > everything, which in turn creates the lack of organization
> just
> > to
> > > > name one problem in concurrence with your subject "unlimited
> > > > roster".
> > > >
> > > > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "robgood3"
> > > > <robgood3@b...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "jenna4214"
> > > > > <jenna4214@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > unlimited roster(?), but only 35 can suit a game...
> > > > >
> > > > > > > That's interesting!  I'm afraid that doesn't do much
to
> > > level
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > roster numbers advantage some teams have, while it
will
> > > > diminish
> > > > > > > chances for the scrubs to play.  Look for scores to be
> > more
> > > > > lopsided
> > > > > > > this season than before that rule was adopted.  It
may,
> > > > however,
> > > > > > > help teams that can't afford to have many players
> travel;
> > > they
> > > > > won't
> > > > > > > show up so outnumbered any more.  But I don't think
> that's
> > > > been
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > factor in deciding games or how close they've been.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Do you think the lop-sided scores were the reason?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not unless they're stupid.  Allowing only 35 to suit up
> means
> > > that
> > > > > if a team gets way ahead, they have fewer scrubs to put
in,
> so
> > > > > they'll be running up scores even more.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Shouldn't
> > > > > > they instead fiqure out how to expand the roster of the
> > small
> > > > > teams.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know that there's much the LEAGUE can do about the
> > > > > recruiting deficiencies of TEAMS.  If teams were
> > geographically
> > > > > close enough that players had a reasonable choice of which
> of
> > 2
> > > > (or
> > > > > more) clubs to play with, then a season ROSTER limit (but
> not
> > a
> > > > per-
> > > > > game limit) would make SOME sense; that sort of thing is
> done
> > in
> > > > > local kiddie leagues for team sports, for instance.  But
> > > limiting
> > > > > players per game while not limiting rosters is the worst
> > > > > combination.  It limits the chances inexperienced players
> > might
> > > > have
> > > > > to gain playing experience, which then they might put to
> > future
> > > > use
> > > > > on another team.  Clubs might pick up a certain number
> > > of "social"
> > > > > members who'll never, or almost never, get a chance to
play
> > > under
> > > > > these rules.
> > > > >
> > > > > I doubt they'd've passed this league rule had not the
> Sharks'
> > > > owner
> > > > > Andra Douglas retired from playing at the end of last
> season.
> > > Up
> > > > in
> > > > > years, she was in the "scrub" category on her own team,
and
> I
> > > > doubt
> > > > > that the league would've discouraged occasional playing
> > > > > opportunities she had.
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert

What structure do they have? are you saying the teams don't get to
vote on stuff?

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, babybooadmirer
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> There is a structure, but not followed (only speaking in regards
to
> iwfl)at all times. Even if the structure was fair, you can't do it
> all.
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, wmnfootballfan
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >
> > aren't the wpfl and iwfl run by the teams themselves? I thought
> both
> > those leagues vote on everything they do.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, babybooadmirer
> > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is one of many problems the LEAGUE OWNERS have.  The
LEAGUE
> > > OWNERS needs to hire a staff similar to other league's for the
> > > purpose of handling different aspects of the business, along
> with
> > an
> > > owner to take over their team, so they can focus on business
at
> > > hand. Instead the LEAGUE OWNERS chooses to be in control of
> > > everything, which in turn creates the lack of organization
just
> to
> > > name one problem in concurrence with your subject "unlimited
> > > roster".
> > >
> > > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "robgood3"
> > > <robgood3@b...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "jenna4214"
> > > > <jenna4214@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > unlimited roster(?), but only 35 can suit a game...
> > > >
> > > > > > That's interesting!  I'm afraid that doesn't do much to
> > level
> > > > the
> > > > > > roster numbers advantage some teams have, while it will
> > > diminish
> > > > > > chances for the scrubs to play.  Look for scores to be
> more
> > > > lopsided
> > > > > > this season than before that rule was adopted.  It may,
> > > however,
> > > > > > help teams that can't afford to have many players
travel;
> > they
> > > > won't
> > > > > > show up so outnumbered any more.  But I don't think
that's
> > > been
> > > > a
> > > > > > factor in deciding games or how close they've been.
> > > >
> > > > > Do you think the lop-sided scores were the reason?
> > > >
> > > > Not unless they're stupid.  Allowing only 35 to suit up
means
> > that
> > > > if a team gets way ahead, they have fewer scrubs to put in,
so
> > > > they'll be running up scores even more.
> > > >
> > > > > Shouldn't
> > > > > they instead fiqure out how to expand the roster of the
> small
> > > > teams.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know that there's much the LEAGUE can do about the
> > > > recruiting deficiencies of TEAMS.  If teams were
> geographically
> > > > close enough that players had a reasonable choice of which
of
> 2
> > > (or
> > > > more) clubs to play with, then a season ROSTER limit (but
not
> a
> > > per-
> > > > game limit) would make SOME sense; that sort of thing is
done
> in
> > > > local kiddie leagues for team sports, for instance.  But
> > limiting
> > > > players per game while not limiting rosters is the worst
> > > > combination.  It limits the chances inexperienced players
> might
> > > have
> > > > to gain playing experience, which then they might put to
> future
> > > use
> > > > on another team.  Clubs might pick up a certain number
> > of "social"
> > > > members who'll never, or almost never, get a chance to play
> > under
> > > > these rules.
> > > >
> > > > I doubt they'd've passed this league rule had not the
Sharks'
> > > owner
> > > > Andra Douglas retired from playing at the end of last
season.
> > Up
> > > in
> > > > years, she was in the "scrub" category on her own team, and
I
> > > doubt
> > > > that the league would've discouraged occasional playing
> > > > opportunities she had.
> > > >
> > > > Robert

There is a structure, but not followed (only speaking in regards to
iwfl)at all times. Even if the structure was fair, you can't do it
all.

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, wmnfootballfan
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> aren't the wpfl and iwfl run by the teams themselves? I thought
both
> those leagues vote on everything they do.
>
>
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, babybooadmirer
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> >
> > This is one of many problems the LEAGUE OWNERS have.  The LEAGUE
> > OWNERS needs to hire a staff similar to other league's for the
> > purpose of handling different aspects of the business, along
with
> an
> > owner to take over their team, so they can focus on business at
> > hand. Instead the LEAGUE OWNERS chooses to be in control of
> > everything, which in turn creates the lack of organization just
to
> > name one problem in concurrence with your subject "unlimited
> > roster".
> >
> > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "robgood3"
> > <robgood3@b...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "jenna4214"
> > > <jenna4214@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > unlimited roster(?), but only 35 can suit a game...
> > >
> > > > > That's interesting!  I'm afraid that doesn't do much to
> level
> > > the
> > > > > roster numbers advantage some teams have, while it will
> > diminish
> > > > > chances for the scrubs to play.  Look for scores to be
more
> > > lopsided
> > > > > this season than before that rule was adopted.  It may,
> > however,
> > > > > help teams that can't afford to have many players travel;
> they
> > > won't
> > > > > show up so outnumbered any more.  But I don't think that's
> > been
> > > a
> > > > > factor in deciding games or how close they've been.
> > >
> > > > Do you think the lop-sided scores were the reason?
> > >
> > > Not unless they're stupid.  Allowing only 35 to suit up means
> that
> > > if a team gets way ahead, they have fewer scrubs to put in, so
> > > they'll be running up scores even more.
> > >
> > > > Shouldn't
> > > > they instead fiqure out how to expand the roster of the
small
> > > teams.
> > >
> > > I don't know that there's much the LEAGUE can do about the
> > > recruiting deficiencies of TEAMS.  If teams were
geographically
> > > close enough that players had a reasonable choice of which of
2
> > (or
> > > more) clubs to play with, then a season ROSTER limit (but not
a
> > per-
> > > game limit) would make SOME sense; that sort of thing is done
in
> > > local kiddie leagues for team sports, for instance.  But
> limiting
> > > players per game while not limiting rosters is the worst
> > > combination.  It limits the chances inexperienced players
might
> > have
> > > to gain playing experience, which then they might put to
future
> > use
> > > on another team.  Clubs might pick up a certain number
> of "social"
> > > members who'll never, or almost never, get a chance to play
> under
> > > these rules.
> > >
> > > I doubt they'd've passed this league rule had not the Sharks'
> > owner
> > > Andra Douglas retired from playing at the end of last season.
> Up
> > in
> > > years, she was in the "scrub" category on her own team, and I
> > doubt
> > > that the league would've discouraged occasional playing
> > > opportunities she had.
> > >
> > > Robert

aren't the wpfl and iwfl run by the teams themselves? I thought both
those leagues vote on everything they do.



--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, babybooadmirer
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> This is one of many problems the LEAGUE OWNERS have.  The LEAGUE
> OWNERS needs to hire a staff similar to other league's for the
> purpose of handling different aspects of the business, along with
an
> owner to take over their team, so they can focus on business at
> hand. Instead the LEAGUE OWNERS chooses to be in control of
> everything, which in turn creates the lack of organization just to
> name one problem in concurrence with your subject "unlimited
> roster".
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "robgood3"
> <robgood3@b...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "jenna4214"
> > <jenna4214@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > > > unlimited roster(?), but only 35 can suit a game...
> >
> > > > That's interesting!  I'm afraid that doesn't do much to
level
> > the
> > > > roster numbers advantage some teams have, while it will
> diminish
> > > > chances for the scrubs to play.  Look for scores to be more
> > lopsided
> > > > this season than before that rule was adopted.  It may,
> however,
> > > > help teams that can't afford to have many players travel;
they
> > won't
> > > > show up so outnumbered any more.  But I don't think that's
> been
> > a
> > > > factor in deciding games or how close they've been.
> >
> > > Do you think the lop-sided scores were the reason?
> >
> > Not unless they're stupid.  Allowing only 35 to suit up means
that
> > if a team gets way ahead, they have fewer scrubs to put in, so
> > they'll be running up scores even more.
> >
> > > Shouldn't
> > > they instead fiqure out how to expand the roster of the small
> > teams.
> >
> > I don't know that there's much the LEAGUE can do about the
> > recruiting deficiencies of TEAMS.  If teams were geographically
> > close enough that players had a reasonable choice of which of 2
> (or
> > more) clubs to play with, then a season ROSTER limit (but not a
> per-
> > game limit) would make SOME sense; that sort of thing is done in
> > local kiddie leagues for team sports, for instance.  But
limiting
> > players per game while not limiting rosters is the worst
> > combination.  It limits the chances inexperienced players might
> have
> > to gain playing experience, which then they might put to future
> use
> > on another team.  Clubs might pick up a certain number
of "social"
> > members who'll never, or almost never, get a chance to play
under
> > these rules.
> >
> > I doubt they'd've passed this league rule had not the Sharks'
> owner
> > Andra Douglas retired from playing at the end of last season.
Up
> in
> > years, she was in the "scrub" category on her own team, and I
> doubt
> > that the league would've discouraged occasional playing
> > opportunities she had.
> >
> > Robert

This is one of many problems the LEAGUE OWNERS have.  The LEAGUE
OWNERS needs to hire a staff similar to other league's for the
purpose of handling different aspects of the business, along with an
owner to take over their team, so they can focus on business at
hand. Instead the LEAGUE OWNERS chooses to be in control of
everything, which in turn creates the lack of organization just to
name one problem in concurrence with your subject "unlimited
roster".

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "robgood3"
<robgood3@b...> wrote:
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "jenna4214"
> <jenna4214@y...> wrote:
>
> > > > unlimited roster(?), but only 35 can suit a game...
>
> > > That's interesting!  I'm afraid that doesn't do much to level
> the
> > > roster numbers advantage some teams have, while it will
diminish
> > > chances for the scrubs to play.  Look for scores to be more
> lopsided
> > > this season than before that rule was adopted.  It may,
however,
> > > help teams that can't afford to have many players travel; they
> won't
> > > show up so outnumbered any more.  But I don't think that's
been
> a
> > > factor in deciding games or how close they've been.
>
> > Do you think the lop-sided scores were the reason?
>
> Not unless they're stupid.  Allowing only 35 to suit up means that
> if a team gets way ahead, they have fewer scrubs to put in, so
> they'll be running up scores even more.
>
> > Shouldn't
> > they instead fiqure out how to expand the roster of the small
> teams.
>
> I don't know that there's much the LEAGUE can do about the
> recruiting deficiencies of TEAMS.  If teams were geographically
> close enough that players had a reasonable choice of which of 2
(or
> more) clubs to play with, then a season ROSTER limit (but not a
per-
> game limit) would make SOME sense; that sort of thing is done in
> local kiddie leagues for team sports, for instance.  But limiting
> players per game while not limiting rosters is the worst
> combination.  It limits the chances inexperienced players might
have
> to gain playing experience, which then they might put to future
use
> on another team.  Clubs might pick up a certain number of "social"
> members who'll never, or almost never, get a chance to play under
> these rules.
>
> I doubt they'd've passed this league rule had not the Sharks'
owner
> Andra Douglas retired from playing at the end of last season.  Up
in
> years, she was in the "scrub" category on her own team, and I
doubt
> that the league would've discouraged occasional playing
> opportunities she had.
>
> Robert

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "jenna4214"
<jenna4214@y...> wrote:

> > > unlimited roster(?), but only 35 can suit a game...

> > That's interesting!  I'm afraid that doesn't do much to level
the
> > roster numbers advantage some teams have, while it will diminish
> > chances for the scrubs to play.  Look for scores to be more
lopsided
> > this season than before that rule was adopted.  It may, however,
> > help teams that can't afford to have many players travel; they
won't
> > show up so outnumbered any more.  But I don't think that's been
a
> > factor in deciding games or how close they've been.

> Do you think the lop-sided scores were the reason?

Not unless they're stupid.  Allowing only 35 to suit up means that
if a team gets way ahead, they have fewer scrubs to put in, so
they'll be running up scores even more.

> Shouldn't
> they instead fiqure out how to expand the roster of the small
teams.

I don't know that there's much the LEAGUE can do about the
recruiting deficiencies of TEAMS.  If teams were geographically
close enough that players had a reasonable choice of which of 2 (or
more) clubs to play with, then a season ROSTER limit (but not a per-
game limit) would make SOME sense; that sort of thing is done in
local kiddie leagues for team sports, for instance.  But limiting
players per game while not limiting rosters is the worst
combination.  It limits the chances inexperienced players might have
to gain playing experience, which then they might put to future use
on another team.  Clubs might pick up a certain number of "social"
members who'll never, or almost never, get a chance to play under
these rules.

I doubt they'd've passed this league rule had not the Sharks' owner
Andra Douglas retired from playing at the end of last season.  Up in
years, she was in the "scrub" category on her own team, and I doubt
that the league would've discouraged occasional playing
opportunities she had.

Robert

Do you think the loop-sided scores were the reason?  That just seems stupid...
Shouldn't
they instead fiqure out how to expand the roster of the small teams.  Maybe if
coaches
didn't quick every year teams might be stronger. There could be many reasons for
small
roster size. The culture of the team for one.  This small game day roster could
cause the
larger teams to lose players next year.  I mean never suiting for a game, but
still putting in
the time and money.   How frustrating.  Why would you want to come back?

I'm glad the IWFL website has the games that are supposed to be played this
weekend, but
where are the times?
jenna

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "robgood3" <robgood3@b...> wrote:
>
> --- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "jenna4214"
> <jenna4214@y...> wrote:
>
> > Wow you are the first person to say anything about the iwfl with
> so many interesting
> > changes.  Sharks have a new coaching staff again.  IWFL requires a
> $20 fee from all player
> > to play.  Random steriod testing.
>
> Just had a thought connected to something discussed here a few
> months back.  What if it turned out that anabolics strengthened
> women's  ligaments?  (The literature does say their vulnerability is
> hormone-related.)  Could such drugs then go from prohibited to
> mandatory?  (From what's known now, I'd suspect anabolics would have
> a net effect of increasing knee injuries, but new info could prove
> otherwise.)
>
> In cx with that, does the IWFL allow blocking below the waist under
> the same circumstances as, say, the NCAA or the Nat'l Federation of
> State HS Ass'ns?  Or are they one of the leagues that prohibits all
> BBW?  I posted a query on the Sharks' message board months ago, but
> have never gotten an answer.
>
> > unlimited roster(?), but only 35 can suit a game...
>
> That's interesting!  I'm afraid that doesn't do much to level the
> roster numbers advantage some teams have, while it will diminish
> chances for the scrubs to play.  Look for scores to be more lopsided
> this season than before that rule was adopted.  It may, however,
> help teams that can't afford to have many players travel; they won't
> show up so outnumbered any more.  But I don't think that's been a
> factor in deciding games or how close they've been.
>
> Heh.  I remember 2000, when the Sharks used to sub in a whole
> offensive squad just to play double wing series.
>
> > Were
> > there changes to Jacksonville, cuz there web site changed.
> Montreal is back. Seacatz are
> > playing arena 6 man?
>
> I'd like to know more about that one.  Of the men's indoor leagues,
> are any of them 6 a side?  I told Jim Foster almost 20 years ago
> that 8 a side was too many for the small playing area of Arena
> Football; the only thing that makes the offense work there is very
> artificial seeming rules limiting how defenses can play, and those
> rules work TOO "well"!
>
> IIRC the Iron Man League was to start play this spring.  That's the
> men's outdoor one with no helmets & no stiff pads.
>
> Robert in the Bronx

the ball is for sale on the IWFL site. None of those places have sold those
balls for years.


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Which league the Roar will play for next season? The NWFA, IWFL or WPFL?

Have anyone checked the Nike website? They are no longer making the red-
white-blue football that the IWFL uses as their official game ball.
Eastbay.com and ChampsSports.com do not have the football for sale on
their sites. What happened?

That is nothin compared what was emailed to me by this idiot. It is
funny how it all came from when i expressed my problem with coach
travis coaching for the roar not to hard to figure out who is
sending that stuff and how they owner of the roar slammed coach
terry and lied about him. I am not making this up i have the emails
so when u reply to this as i am sure u will i do have proof. I know
the owner of the roar will post on the site how i'm negative and all
but after the emails that were sent to me by her i can't believe
they let her into the wpfl. If anyone would like to see the emails
feel free to let me know. In her emails she talks about nikia alot
so i would love to hear from her because some of the things she said
about coach terry were just lies. Am i defending coach terry? Yes
because i emailed him and he said he was not going to post on this
board to what the roar owner said about him and hopes that his rep.
and things he has done to help promote womans football will be
enough for people even though he understands that some may believe
the rumors but hopes they won't. Take it from me don't believe a
word the roar owner says and coach if you read this i know u told me
to ignore it but i feel something should be said after all u did'nt
deserve all of that crap after what you have done to help the team
and the wpfl. To the former sting players he did say to me to feel
free and email him or call him and at least talk to him if u believe
all of the rumors u should at least talk to him. To the roar owner u
slammed him and told lies about him which u can't say u did'nt i
have the emails but to call another team and do it is way way wrong
and i wish i could report u to the league cause u would desrve it.


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> Didn't yo Momma ever teach not to talk to NO woman like that? Just
wanna let you know that it's a good thing the only thing we can see
of you is your words on my computer screen. Grow up.
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I
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South Atlantic
Jacksonville (10-0)
Tampa Bay (7-3)
Miami * (5-3)
Orlando (0-10)


Interesting, prediction for Tampa since J-ville is 10-0 I assume 1 of
our losses is to them who are the other two too?

Unless the rule changed this year (and I doubt it), there is No blocking below
the waist in the IWFL, ever, anywhere.  Not even on the initial block at the
line of scrimmage as in high school.

>>> robgood3<robgood3@...> 3/30/2005 9:32:41 AM >>>

In cx with that, does the IWFL allow blocking below the waist under
the same circumstances as, say, the NCAA or the Nat'l Federation of
State HS Ass'ns?  Or are they one of the leagues that prohibits all
BBW?  I posted a query on the Sharks' message board months ago, but
have never gotten an answer.

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "jenna4214"
<jenna4214@y...> wrote:

> Wow you are the first person to say anything about the iwfl with
so many interesting
> changes.  Sharks have a new coaching staff again.  IWFL requires a
$20 fee from all player
> to play.  Random steriod testing.

Just had a thought connected to something discussed here a few
months back.  What if it turned out that anabolics strengthened
women's  ligaments?  (The literature does say their vulnerability is
hormone-related.)  Could such drugs then go from prohibited to
mandatory?  (From what's known now, I'd suspect anabolics would have
a net effect of increasing knee injuries, but new info could prove
otherwise.)

In cx with that, does the IWFL allow blocking below the waist under
the same circumstances as, say, the NCAA or the Nat'l Federation of
State HS Ass'ns?  Or are they one of the leagues that prohibits all
BBW?  I posted a query on the Sharks' message board months ago, but
have never gotten an answer.

> unlimited roster(?), but only 35 can suit a game...

That's interesting!  I'm afraid that doesn't do much to level the
roster numbers advantage some teams have, while it will diminish
chances for the scrubs to play.  Look for scores to be more lopsided
this season than before that rule was adopted.  It may, however,
help teams that can't afford to have many players travel; they won't
show up so outnumbered any more.  But I don't think that's been a
factor in deciding games or how close they've been.

Heh.  I remember 2000, when the Sharks used to sub in a whole
offensive squad just to play double wing series.

> Were
> there changes to Jacksonville, cuz there web site changed.
Montreal is back. Seacatz are
> playing arena 6 man?

I'd like to know more about that one.  Of the men's indoor leagues,
are any of them 6 a side?  I told Jim Foster almost 20 years ago
that 8 a side was too many for the small playing area of Arena
Football; the only thing that makes the offense work there is very
artificial seeming rules limiting how defenses can play, and those
rules work TOO "well"!

IIRC the Iron Man League was to start play this spring.  That's the
men's outdoor one with no helmets & no stiff pads.

Robert in the Bronx

Once again, the leage has lost another strong woman. To the Dallas
Diamonds, my prayers are with your team and A.J.s family.


--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, julie_aggie_1994
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> We have a former player who is having brain surgery to remove a
> tumor as you are reading this please say a quick prayer, or send
> good vibes her way please.
>
> If you have a prayer list her name is A.J. Russell.
>
> Thanks,
> Julie

i heard about ny, but have not heard anything about jacksonville.  ny
does not have anyone up in the NE that can slow them down no matter
what.  IMO, they will not see much until the playoffs.   i wonder if
this will be the same montreal team from before.  then again, i guess
it does not matter because i think they only play 2 games and are a
Xteam.

a 35 max game roster???  that is way too damn small.  i know some
teams do not have that many but why does everyone have to suffer.
35???

--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "jenna4214"
<jenna4214@y...> wrote:
>
> Wow you are the first person to say anything about the iwfl with so
many interesting
> changes.  Sharks have a new coaching staff again.  IWFL requires a
$20 fee from all player
> to play.  Random steriod testing.  unlimited roster(?), but only 35
can suit a game... Were
> there changes to Jacksonville, cuz there web site changed.
Montreal is back. Seacatz are
> playing arena 6 man?  Geez what else is going to happen?
> J

Hi.  It's great to be back.  I was preoccupied for quite a while,
but here are my predictions for this IWFL season:

Pacific Southwest
Sacramento (10-0)
Oakland (8-2)
Santa Rosa (6-4)
Redding (5-5)--I am always optimistic about them
California (3-7)
Tucson * (2-6)
SoCal (1-9)

Pacific Northwest
Tacoma (10-0)
Corvallis (7-3)
Portland (3-7)
Eugene (2-8)
Boise (1-9)

Midwest
Chicago (8-2)
Detroit (4-6)
Kansas City (3-7)
Des Moines * (3-7)

North Atlantic
New York (10-0)
Southern Maine (8-2)
Rhode Island (6-4)
Manchester (3-7)
Connecticut * (1-7)
Bay State (1-9)
Montreal * (0-2)

South Atlantic
Jacksonville (10-0)
Tampa Bay (7-3)
Miami * (5-3)
Orlando (0-10)

Southern Central
Texas (9-1)
Atlanta (5-5)
Baton Rouge (1-9)

Wow you are the first person to say anything about the iwfl with so many
interesting
changes.  Sharks have a new coaching staff again.  IWFL requires a $20 fee from
all player
to play.  Random steriod testing.  unlimited roster(?), but only 35 can suit a
game... Were
there changes to Jacksonville, cuz there web site changed.   Montreal is back.
Seacatz are
playing arena 6 man?  Geez what else is going to happen?
J

well, i guess since i am working with an iwfl team now, i should try
to make some iwfl predictions.  i need to figure out who half these
teams are by their nicknames:

Intensity @ Sharks     - sharks by a ton
Banshees @ Sirens      - sirens. can anybody stay with the sirens?
hmm.  best game out west
Dixie Blues @ Xplosion  - jax. best game on the east
Edge @ Rage             - edge.
Pride @ Xtreme         - pride.
Rebels @ Freedom       - no game -
Scorchers @ Quake      - scorchers.
Shockwave @ Majestics  - majestics
Storm @ Courage        - storm. i think they have some nwfa players
Terminators @ Mayhem   - no pick.  am part of this one
Warriors @ Force       - force by a ton
Wildcats @ Revolution  - revolution.  any wpfl dallas players here?
Bandits @ Wildfire     - bandits

well, there is my first iwfl attempt at picking regular season games.


--- In womensfootballclub@yahoogroups.com, "smrebels"
<smrebels@y...> wrote:
>
> The season is about to start and not much chatter on the board.
Anyone
> have predictions for this weekend?  FYI the Freedom vs. Rebels
game has
> been rescheduled.

The season is about to start and not much chatter on the board.  Anyone
have predictions for this weekend?  FYI the Freedom vs. Rebels game has
been rescheduled.

What you are about to read might sound unusual but it could be very enlightened.


Special Features of the Islamic Belief System

The First Feature: Clarity

The beliefs of Islam are clear, without any ambiguity or complications. In
brief, all of Creation has one divinity – Allah – Who is alone worthy of
worship, Who created the marvelous and orderly universe and determined
everything within it. He has no partner, peer, wife, or child.

This clarity is consistent with sound reason, because the intellect always seeks
out a sense of unity and interrelationship whenever there is variety and
multiplicity. It wants various things to be traceable to a single cause.

The Islamic belief system, being so clear, does not call to blind faith. On the
contrary, it calls to reflection and reason. Allah says:

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘This is my way, I call to Allah with clear knowledge, I and
those who follow me. Glory be to Allah; I am not one of the polytheists.”

At the same time, issues of belief are beyond the scope of reason alone and can
only be acquired by way of revelation from the Wise Lawgiver. Many of the Muslim
philosophers and theologians returned from their purely rational methods to the
methodology of the Qur’ân and Sunnah. One of them was Fakhr al-Dîn al-Râzî –
among the greatest philosophers in Islam – who, after spending a lifetime in
rational investigations, said in verse:

The outcome of rational undertakings is incapacity
Those so engaged mostly chase after error.

Our souls are in bewilderment of our bodies,
And the consequence of all our droning is injury and harm.

We have gained nothing from our lifetimes spent in research
Except a collection of idle talk.

Thereafter he said: “I have investigated the methods of the theologians and
philosophers and found that they neither remedy any problems nor fulfill any
needs. I found that the best method is that of the Qur’ân. On the one hand, I
read that it makes assertions by saying: ‘The Beneficent is mounted on the
throne’ and: ‘Unto Him rises the good word.’ Then, on the other hand, I read
that it negates matters by saying: ‘There is nothing like unto Him’ and:
‘Knowledge does not comprehend Him.’ Whoever has had the experience that I have
had will have come to know what I know.”

The Second Feature: Conformity with Human Nature

The Islamic belief system is not foreign to the uncorrupted, innate nature of
man, nor does it contradict that nature in any way. On the contrary, the two are
in complete agreement and harmony with each other. This should not come as a
surprise, because the Creator of man – who best knows his nature and disposition
– is the One who prescribed for him a religion that is suitable for the nature
that He created within him. Allah describes Islam as:

“…the way of Allah upon which He created mankind. There can be no change in
Allah’s creation. This is the true faith.”

He also says:

“Does the one who creates not know what He created, and He is the Kind, the
Wise.”

What occurs in the world around us testifies to the fact that human nature is in
complete agreement with the Islamic belief system that is based on sincerity in
faith to Allah alone. Whenever any person is faced with difficulties that are
beyond the scope of his physical powers, he takes recourse to Allah Almighty in
absolute humility and submission, irrespective of whether he is a believer or a
disbeliever. This is true even for a small child, because if he is left to his
own devices without being influenced by his parents or his environment, he will
grow up believing that Allah is his Lord and God, and he will worship no one
else.

For this reason, Allah’s Messenger (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon
him) said: “Every child is born on the natural path, then his parents turn him
into a Jew, Christian, or Magian."

The Third Feature: Having its Basis in Revelation While Being Furnished with
Proofs

A distinction of the Islamic belief system is that even though it is based
exclusively upon revelation, never exceeding the bounds of the divinely revealed
texts that establish it, it is at the same time a belief system that provides
proofs for its beliefs, all of its tenets resting on sound arguments and
evidence. It does not merely present its tenets by way of confirmed revelation
and then require belief in them through stern compulsion. On the contrary, it
respects man’s faculty of reason as well as the principles upon which the
religion rests.

None of its beliefs, from the most general to the most particular, are
established by any proof other than that of the Qur’ân and Sunnah. Moreover,
those that follow it are prohibited from delving into issues of belief except
with knowledge and proof of this kind. Allah says:

“Do not follow that of which you have no knowledge. Verily the hearing, the
sight, and the heart, all of those will be held accountable.”

He also says:

“Allah will never mislead a people after giving them guidance until he makes
clear to them what they must avoid.”

At the same time, the Qur’ân, when it calls people to believe in the tenets of
faith, provides clear proofs from the signs that exist both within the person
and all around him. In this way, it does not call to blind faith or to following
anything aimlessly. On the contrary, it orders people to ask for the arguments
and proofs for any belief or claim. Allah says:

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘Bring your proof if you be truthful.’ ”

This combination of reliance upon revelation and the presentation of proofs
require the following:

1. It limits the sources of Islamic beliefs to the Qur’ân and Sunnah.

2. It necessitates relying upon the words of the Qur’ân and Sunnah that express
the tenets of faith.

3. It also requires understanding these words according to their intended
meanings.

4. It is prohibits understanding meanings from these words that they do not
convey.

5. It requires silence on all matters pertaining to faith that the Qur’ân and
Sunnah do not address by leaving the knowledge of these matters to Almighty
Allah.

The Qur’ân and Sunnah point to other means of acquiring knowledge, such as
reason, the senses, good taste, etc. The following are some examples of the
proofs provided by Allah in the Qur’ân that are built upon clear demonstrations:

1. The rational proof: Allah says:

“Were they created without a cause or were they themselves the creators?”

2. The proof within the self: Allah says:

“…and in themselves, do they not see?”

3. The proof in the surrounding environment: Allah says:

“He has let loose the two sees meeting together. Between them is a barrier that
neither of them can transgress.”

For more information about Islam:
http://omar.3nv.com/


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It was just brought to my attention that there was a 'buzz' about the
Sting on the Yahoo board. I actually didn't have a membership
anymore, so I'm just loggin on to set a couple things right.

I, Cabrina Gilbert, owner and former player for the Syracuse Sting,
decided that the debt and work had gotten WAY too much for one ol
lineman to handle, so I went looking for someone to take over the
team. Someone with a passion and fever, like myself, that would be
willing to morgatage the house to pay for plane tickets for the team.

I had thought that we had found that person. Unfortunatly, that
person backed out at a point where I had not done any offseason fund
raising or recruiting, as I had done in the past. So the chance to
kickstart the team on my own, while already in debt, was a lost cause.

It became clear that it was a much smarter option to close the team
and save the reputation and respect it had gained, than to let some
hack come in and bring it down. So I closed it down.

The main point I want to get across is that the WPFL was great in
understanding my decision. They tried to work with interested parties
in maintaining the Sting name and keeping it in the league, but it
was just not meant to be.

I still believe that the WPFL will be the league that remains when
the dust settles. They continue to grow each year, not by leaps and
bounds, but my slow and cautious means that make each year a stronger
league. We all know the drama involved in this sport, quick and money
minded is not the key to building the best league. Quality is the
only way to go and the WPFL is nothing but quality.

While I will miss football and the struggles that it brought, I'm
very proud to say I was part of an organization that has respect in
the women's football relm. We have been honored locally by being
asked to donate items to our local historical society. So all those
speeches about 'being part of history' are coming true!

So I guess I will sign off from this site as well. Good luck to
everyone and just remember that we as women must learn to overcome
societies insistance that we leap at each other throats. Men figured
out a long time ago how to form 'the ol boys network' to assist each
other up the corporate ladder. Football should be our ladder to help
one another in a sport where men don't want us and women think we
don't belong. It should be the purest form of sisterhood.

Good luck and you'll always have my support for continuing to break
the grass celing!

Cabrina Gilbert
Owner, Syracuse Sting
Retired

Didn't yo Momma ever teach not to talk to NO woman like that? Just wanna let you
know that it's a good thing the only thing we can see of you is your words on my
computer screen. Grow up.
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Where'd U go? You start trouble then leave......... cum back dyke I
need some fun :P

sorry


Hello Football  Fans,
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up at the media will call at STAPLES  Center (not the box office will call).
It is located at the  11th Street entrance.  The media will call will be from
9am  until 3pm.  For anyone interested in attending the minor league football
tournament it will begin at 10am.
For everyone attending the  California Quake vs. San Diego SeaCatz game
please be there by 2:00pm as the  game may begin earlier than expected.
If you have any questions please  feel free to contact me on my cell phone at
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