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For those of you that are new . A few years back I was curious about wind tunnels. I made one similar to the Wright brothers . Its just a litle more modern in...
johhnysrocket2003
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Mar 2, 2007
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I've decided to start building the lower 12' of the WD-40 wing. The construction will be FG over foam w/ plywood hinge-points mixed into the layup. The...
Kevin Brooker
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Mar 2, 2007
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I wanted to do what you are doing for a long time. I've backed off and I'll be doing "John wing". :-) No shear web? I know that compilcates matters....
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John, What was the scale of your model wings to the real ones? (1/3 ? 1/4?) I am always afraid Reynolds number effects will screw up the results in a small...
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Deane , From researching windtunnels I know what you are talking about in the scale aspect. I have an rc airplane design book that described how war bird...
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I was talking with Chauncey Griggs a few years back. The conversation was about testing sections. He had a funny idea. Make 2 different sections with...
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Kevin, I'm glad you are plunging into the wing project. Please post your progress. I have a feeling wings will start catching on as a few more start to...
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Don't laugh too hard! :-) In the early years of windsurfing, I recall seeing a picture of windsurfer rig on a truck/car or something doing some sort of...
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Hey, don't laugh. This is standard practice in the hang gliding industry. Wind tunnels are WAY too expensive to test full size gliders so years ago...
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That's actually a pretty good method. I've heard of people doing the same with faired tubing sections on a pivot to see which one has the least drag. Of course...
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The shear web does make the build a bit more difficult. I was thinking of cutting out 1/2" of the chord at the max. thickness and replacing it w/ plywood. The...
Kevin Brooker
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Kevin, How will you cut the foam core? In one 12' piece? I recently completed a 15' by 17 inch chord wing mast for my DN. I cut 30 half airfoil pieces having a...
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Ben Gooch connects his sections like you are thinking. He uses aluminium pipe that sleeves into each other. He also builds foam wings and uses the aluminium...
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Did you say you were familiar with the Quickie experimental aircraft? Why not do it like they do it but just scaled back a bit (a trough for the spar and the...
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re: aluminum pipe ... I recall you saying that he uses irrigation pipe ... right? re: 1/2" ply ... on second thought it's probably doing double duty (spar and...
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I'm not sure about what is irrigation pipe and whats not....
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I am familiar w/ the Quickie design and I thought of making up a FG spar for the wing. The reason I want to use the plywood is not shear so much as crush ...
Kevin Brooker
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Yes, the Quickie layup DOES look like a lot of work. Alternately you could also make a box spar similar to john's wing in place of the plyood. The only...
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I've made some crazy wheels . I also started the wheel fairings . See photo section. John...
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John, I was just doing some Reynolds number calculations. Rn goes down with decreasing chord and airspeed. Below Rn of about 300,000 is where turbulent flow...
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Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the wingboats group. File : /REYNOLDS.XLS...
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I knew I was taking a chance when I made the high aspect short chorded wing . When I shaped the nose I left a small hard edge on the tip for the same reasons...
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John, It was 1/8" wide. It doesn't take much, just enough to "trip" the boundry layer and cause little micro-swirls behind it that stick to the curved portion...
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I was lurking on some other iceboat web sites and found a link to sailing theory ect. http://www.sailingusa.info/true_wind_calculator.htm There seems to be...
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I am on that same Yahoo group and saw that calculator too. A great tool. From playing with it you can see how important it is to reduce drag of the wing so...
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I found this on the web recently. It is an excerpt of the most interesting aerodynamic parts of a thesis on a winged catamaran. One of the differing parts is...
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It would be interesting to duplicate what he has theorized and test it against my section in the wind tunnel. I can't open the other links in the article . Are...
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John, I didn't see any links in that PDF but it looks like most of the thesis is here in this PDF: ...
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Found some pictures of his wing at the bottom of this page: http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/%7Eelkaim/elkaim/Photos.html...
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