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I've posted the latest pictures of the fuselage progress under Wingnut lll in the photos file. http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/wingboats/photos/view/ed8d?b=13...
johhnysrocket2003
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Oct 16, 2007
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... John, Sharp looking hull! Your cabinet building skills shine again. The hull looks pretty long. Are you even going to have a front runner plank? Keep...
foiledagain20
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Oct 16, 2007
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yes i plan on having another 5' out front with a springboard. The runner plank is 18' wide....
johhnysrocket2003
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Oct 17, 2007
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Thanks for the update. I am ready as one of your pushers in the Am Cup in 2008. Meanwhile I am testing a new front end on my Fed 5. Stability and steering...
Mark H
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Oct 17, 2007
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I forgot to mention that the boat will be about 25.5' LOA. It will have about the same foot print as Phils boat pictured in the background on the front page . ...
johhnysrocket2003
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Oct 18, 2007
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John Thanks for the plug. How do the Aluminum front ends look. I don't think they are strong enough. I would like to put some side gussets on them. How much...
FRANK MARSH
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Oct 18, 2007
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I was there for two days of the Bend Boyz stay and although the light air capabilities of Rich's designs were just working, mine and several other Manta twins...
Perry Sims
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Oct 18, 2007
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Frank I have it mounted . Check out the new photo. It looks great thanks!I will need to mount the wheel on the dirtboat front end and see what can be done for...
johhnysrocket2003
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Oct 19, 2007
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John It looks great. Stick an axel in it and see what kind of axial load it can take. Give me some gusset dimensions and I will send you a gusseted one to try...
Frank Marsh
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Oct 19, 2007
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Hi All, I just found this group today and I'm very excited about the wing concept. I also restore and build aircraft, so I like wings. I have a bunch of...
Phil
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Oct 19, 2007
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Welcome Phil , The flap stays angled pretty much all the time. The only time not to use it is to depower. WN1 was the first small sized wing I made . I felt it...
johhnysrocket2003
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Oct 20, 2007
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Thanks for the response! So when you are powered up and cruising what is the average angle of attack of the main wing? And what is a normal flap setting? How...
Phil
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Oct 20, 2007
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The main wing can range from 15 to to 5 degrees at speed. I usually run 20 to 30 degrees of flap .Less if its blowing hard. We have found a chain and sprocket...
smith smith
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Oct 21, 2007
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John Is it possible to put the wing you sent me on the Manta Twin that I have. If so what would it take. Remenber I have a CNC Machine shop and can do...
FRANK MARSH
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Oct 21, 2007
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The wings require a large platform for stability. The previous boat that it went on was about 350lbs and had a footprint of 18.5' long and 16' wide plus the...
smith smith
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Oct 21, 2007
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John What about adding a front spring board and new rear axel to get the 18.8' x 16'? It would be real easy for me to make up the mounting plates for both of...
FRANK MARSH
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Oct 21, 2007
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The problem I could see by extending a twin is that the wing needs to have about 30% of its area behind the rear axle. If the wing is too far forward then you...
smith smith
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Oct 22, 2007
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Hi John, That video and other web site answered just about every question, thank you so much for sharing this great information! I live a a small airport (Twin...
Phil
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Oct 22, 2007
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John Thanks for the info. I was just trying to figure out how to get all of the Manta guys into wings. Frank smith smith <johhnysrocket2003@...> wrote: ...
FRANK MARSH
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Oct 22, 2007
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Tom is right on. The difference between water boats and ice boats or land yachts is drag. To overcome drag takes power. Stability is always the limiting...
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Oct 23, 2007
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Frank, using a wing on a Manta Twin would be too difficult due to the weak structure of the Manta Twin and the fact that the mast struts would prevent hardly...
Mark H
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Oct 23, 2007
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Mark Thanks for the imput. What kind of bikes do you have. I have an 07 GSXR-750 Mark H <landsail@...> wrote: Frank, using a wing on a Manta Twin would...
FRANK MARSH
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Oct 24, 2007
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Hi Frank. I have in my crowded garage with two sea kayaks and three bicycles (mtn bikes and a 40 speed recumbent - Trek R200): 2007 Kawasaki KLR650 2004...
Mark H
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Oct 25, 2007
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Mark I guess my garage isn't as crowded as I thought. All I have is a car, a truck, and two GSXR's. My wife has a 600. Frank Mark H <landsail@...>...
FRANK MARSH
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Oct 25, 2007
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I need some narative John. I'd like to know more on how the spring board plugs into the hull. I'd also like to know more about the front chock and the...
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Oct 25, 2007
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Dave, The spring board goes right down the center of the fuselage.I made a rectangular shaped box to fit the spring board. I cut all the bulkheads to receive...
smith smith
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Oct 25, 2007
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Thanks John. Nifty idea to just slide the spring board into the hull. You won't even have to disconnect the steering cables ... which of course I'm sure...
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Oct 26, 2007
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John What are the thickness, width, & overall length of the spring board. Frank...
Frank Marsh
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Oct 26, 2007
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... Its 2 1/8''x 7'' x 9' from the steering pivot bolt to the fuselage its 4.5' making the wheel base of the boat 20' . Phil Rothrock and Ben Gooch are using 4...
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Oct 26, 2007
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John So you have 4.5' inside the fuselage and 4.5' outside of the fuselage. Is that correct? What are your thoughts of using wood on the aluminum fuselage that...
FRANK MARSH
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