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Re: [wingboats] Winged Manta

The wings require a large platform for stability. The previous boat that it went on was about 350lbs and had a footprint of 18.5' long and 16' wide plus the wheels.
I'm afraid to get that wing to work right you are going to have to start from scratch  on a new fuselage .
John

FRANK MARSH <frank.marsh@...> wrote:
John
Is it possible to put the wing you sent me on the Manta Twin that I have. If so what would it take. Remenber I have a CNC Machine shop and can do anything.
 


Frank Marsh
M & W Engineering, Inc.
3880 Dividend Drive Suite 100
Shingle Springs, Ca. 95682
530.676.7185 Fax 530.676.7188
frank.marsh@sbcglobal.net

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I've posted the latest pictures of the fuselage progress under Wingnut lll in the photos file. http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/wingboats/photos/view/ed8d?b=13... 		johhnysrocket2003
johhnysrocke...
Offline Send Email 		Oct 16, 2007
1:43 pm

... John, Sharp looking hull! Your cabinet building skills shine again. The hull looks pretty long. Are you even going to have a front runner plank? Keep...
foiledagain20
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2:02 pm

yes i plan on having another 5' out front with a springboard. The runner plank is 18' wide....
johhnysrocket2003
johhnysrocke...
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2:17 pm

Thanks for the update. I am ready as one of your pushers in the Am Cup in 2008. Meanwhile I am testing a new front end on my Fed 5. Stability and steering...
Mark H
landsail
Offline Send Email 		Oct 17, 2007
11:35 pm

I forgot to mention that the boat will be about 25.5' LOA. It will have about the same foot print as Phils boat pictured in the background on the front page . ...
johhnysrocket2003
johhnysrocke...
Offline Send Email 		Oct 18, 2007
4:21 am

John Thanks for the plug. How do the Aluminum front ends look. I don't think they are strong enough. I would like to put some side gussets on them. How much...
FRANK MARSH
frankus40
Offline Send Email 		Oct 18, 2007
5:01 am

Frank I have it mounted . Check out the new photo. It looks great thanks!I will need to mount the wheel on the dirtboat front end and see what can be done for...
johhnysrocket2003
johhnysrocke...
Offline Send Email 		Oct 19, 2007
2:00 am

John It looks great. Stick an axel in it and see what kind of axial load it can take. Give me some gusset dimensions and I will send you a gusseted one to try...
Frank Marsh
frankus40
Offline Send Email 		Oct 19, 2007
5:20 am

John Is it possible to put the wing you sent me on the Manta Twin that I have. If so what would it take. Remenber I have a CNC Machine shop and can do...
FRANK MARSH
frankus40
Offline Send Email 		Oct 21, 2007
5:36 am

The wings require a large platform for stability. The previous boat that it went on was about 350lbs and had a footprint of 18.5' long and 16' wide plus the...
smith smith
johhnysrocke...
Offline Send Email 		Oct 21, 2007
2:16 pm

John What about adding a front spring board and new rear axel to get the 18.8' x 16'? It would be real easy for me to make up the mounting plates for both of...
FRANK MARSH
frankus40
Offline Send Email 		Oct 21, 2007
11:11 pm

The problem I could see by extending a twin is that the wing needs to have about 30% of its area behind the rear axle. If the wing is too far forward then you...
smith smith
johhnysrocke...
Offline Send Email 		Oct 22, 2007
2:14 pm

John Thanks for the info. I was just trying to figure out how to get all of the Manta guys into wings. Frank smith smith <johhnysrocket2003@...> wrote: ...
FRANK MARSH
frankus40
Offline Send Email 		Oct 22, 2007
3:33 pm

Frank, using a wing on a Manta Twin would be too difficult due to the weak structure of the Manta Twin and the fact that the mast struts would prevent hardly...
Mark H
landsail
Offline Send Email 		Oct 23, 2007
7:20 pm

Mark Thanks for the imput. What kind of bikes do you have. I have an 07 GSXR-750 Mark H <landsail@...> wrote: Frank, using a wing on a Manta Twin would...
FRANK MARSH
frankus40
Offline Send Email 		Oct 24, 2007
9:01 pm

Hi Frank. I have in my crowded garage with two sea kayaks and three bicycles (mtn bikes and a 40 speed recumbent - Trek R200): 2007 Kawasaki KLR650 2004...
Mark H
landsail
Offline Send Email 		Oct 25, 2007
6:50 pm

Mark I guess my garage isn't as crowded as I thought. All I have is a car, a truck, and two GSXR's. My wife has a 600. Frank Mark H <landsail@...>...
FRANK MARSH
frankus40
Offline Send Email 		Oct 25, 2007
7:07 pm

I need some narative John. I'd like to know more on how the spring board plugs into the hull. I'd also like to know more about the front chock and the...
foiledagain20
Offline Send Email 		Oct 25, 2007
8:37 pm

Dave, The spring board goes right down the center of the fuselage.I made a rectangular shaped box to fit the spring board. I cut all the bulkheads to receive...
smith smith
johhnysrocke...
Offline Send Email 		Oct 25, 2007
11:27 pm

Thanks John. Nifty idea to just slide the spring board into the hull. You won't even have to disconnect the steering cables ... which of course I'm sure...
foiledagain20
Offline Send Email 		Oct 26, 2007
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