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Re: [wildwater] Poor attendence in WW racing

What about a viable equipment pool? The Speeder races that Pyranah has
been putting on, have been super popular, and reduce the barrier to
entry as the boats are supplied.

Seems like Wildwater boats are hard to come by, stateside, and most
options involve purchasing abroad and shipping them. I understand that
there may be some inroads being made on importation of one brand.

If folks could show up and race, with a manufacturer offered very low
cost rental boat, you'd probably engage more people, even if it's only
a plastic fun division.

It's the same problem as many other sports - windsurfing comes to
mind. It's hard to get the equipment into people's hands so that they
may try the sport. And, the equipment is expensive and very fragile.

Paul

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Chris N <mhc_antigen@...> wrote:
> So what are your opinions Dan? A complete lack of local domestics races
> that can build participation seems to be an issue.
>
> Chris
>
> ________________________________
> From: lakesurfer52 <dmurn@...>
> To: wildwater@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:14:40 AM
> Subject: [wildwater] Poor attendence in WW racing
>
> Hi
> Why is WW racing fading? Is there a reason(s) we can not draw new
> paddlers to enjoy this sport?
> I have been promoting the sport for 25 years. hosting many regional
> races and the Nationals.
> I have my opinions! Would like to hear from our group why the sport
> does not move forward.
> Dan
>
>
>



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Hi Why is WW racing fading? Is there a reason(s) we can not draw new paddlers to enjoy this sport? I have been promoting the sport for 25 years. hosting many...
lakesurfer52
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Nov 5, 2008
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Conflicts. The Nantahala South Eastern race was held the same day as the World Beer Festival. I know that's no excuse and all... Paul...
Paul Scrutton
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Nov 5, 2008
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Friends, this is something I have been noodling on for 10 years. And at this point, I have some pretty reasons, and some pretty specific possible remedies. ...
Seth Eisner
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Nov 5, 2008
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The response I promised yesterday... Though it was almost 25 years ago, I rather vividly recall my second US Team Trials. It was 1984, Peshtigo River, about...
Seth Eisner
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Nov 6, 2008
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Seth Great reply!!!!! you seemed to ahve it pegged. Now What? Are you being named to the white house staff!!!! Do you remeber was there any amenities at the...
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Nov 6, 2008
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First I apologize for being part of the problem. My wife, Diane, has been dealing with cancer and I have been reluctant to travel when I don't have to. I did...
Bob Horlacher
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Nov 7, 2008
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So what are your opinions Dan? A complete lack of local domestics races that can build participation seems to be an issue. Chris ...
Chris N
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Nov 5, 2008
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What about a viable equipment pool? The Speeder races that Pyranah has been putting on, have been super popular, and reduce the barrier to entry as the boats...
Paul Scrutton
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Nov 5, 2008
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Hi Everyone, (Landis Arnold Here) Wildwater Racing has some of the following problems in my opinion. These absolutely need to be weighed against the wonderful...
Landis Arnold
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Nov 7, 2008
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Landis Your right on about equipment! The older boats Match 2, Lieser King and such were easy to roll and much more versitile. Running rivers in boats like...
lakesurfer52
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Nov 7, 2008
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Landis- I appreciated your take on the boat issue.  I agree that fear of boat damage is a big issue, especially when you are starting out (or at least it...
Edward Gordon
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Nov 7, 2008
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Ed, If time were plentiful I would be popping some '89 Savages and as well as the even more comfortable '87 Isere boats out of the molds I have here. I would...
Landis Arnold
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Nov 7, 2008
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Update on the '79 Model Name Hi Landis, I know that Jean Pierre Burny was world champion in 79. Was it his boat (that has shown up somewhere in Canada)? If...
Landis Arnold
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Nov 7, 2008
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We enjoyed significant growth in USA Wildwater from 2004-07. The bullet point version of what we did right was: - Really promote our sport and our events...
jpinyerd@...
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Nov 5, 2008
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"We enjoyed significant growth in USA Wildwater from 2004-07" John, I don't mean to be an ass, but where do these numbers come from? If you examine numbers of...
Chris N
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Nov 5, 2008
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Certainly, like Slalom, we are facing many challenges.The point is that we can make progress. If we work hard and work together we can get our sport growing...
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Nov 6, 2008
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This is not jsut a problem in the US. In the UK we are struggling with numbers. The high cost of fuel is certainly not helping. Wild Water racing is a very...
Orange
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Nov 6, 2008
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Everyone, yes everyone, that is thinking about the sport's future needs to carefully read this: ...
Mike Baker
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Nov 7, 2008
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In the past I've been against almost all design restrictions, except weight. But perhaps the time has come for desperate measures ... I do hope that when they...
Jamie McEwan
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Nov 7, 2008
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Yep, the Delphin 79 would be the first design I ever broke - snapped the nose off at the Serpent's Tail in Llangollen. ________________________________ From:...
Chris N
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Nov 7, 2008
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Good points.... However, I would say that being "Olympic" is not helping slalom or sprint to grow. Their growth (or lack thereof) comes at the grass roots (and...
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Nov 9, 2008
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At a grass roots level what does it take to get someone to try and also race a wildwater boat? One of the best run races in the new england area is the Scantic...
Mark Wendolowski
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Nov 9, 2008
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Mark makes a great point (and a position that I have long since held) that every step up in a class in river difficulty has the effect of limiting the number...
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Nov 9, 2008
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Are these races advertised on wildwater forums? There aren't many wildwater racers, but even fewer wildwater races. If folks knew about them maybe some would...
Chris N
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Nov 9, 2008
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I found a series of races held in the northeast at: http://www.neckra.org/RaceSchd.htm Unfortunately, I found them this fall after the races were over when I...
Chuck Brabec
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Nov 9, 2008
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I didn't mean in any way to put the emphasis on you to chase these things up Chuck (he, he, I just said upchuck!). Notably, about the only race in the whole...
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