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#64 From: "oceanmad23" <richard.lewis@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2004 4:25 pm
Subject: American River Festival 2004 oceanmad23
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The 23rd annual American River Festival promises to be one of the
best yet. The Festival takes place Saturday and Sunday, April 24-25,
2004. Featured events include the Whitewater Rodeo, Wildwater race,
Slalom race, and two new events: Senoritas on the South Fork and a
Boardercross race. read more at WWW.AMERICANRIVERFESTIVAL.ORG

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#63 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: Ripboard Demo Days! hxcsouljah
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Marshall,

You should try to get down some September for the Gauley releases.
Still a good ways from you, but probably the closest of the southern
water to you.  You might also want to check out the cheat river,
which is further north in WV.

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#62 From: marshvet@...
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Ripboard Demo Days! marshall_breite
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Ross, et al,
I live in Poughkeepsie which is about 1 1/2 hour Northeast of NYC. I tend to run the Housatonic in CT when it is running and am searching for other places to go this Spring/Summer. I have 2 Ripboards and all of the accoutrements. I go with my 17 year old son but am always looking for new people to take along.
Quebec? Is that in NY?????/

Marshall

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#61 From: rossolot@...
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:16 pm
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What part of NY Marshall?  What rivers do you play on up there?  I thought i
heard mention of some riverboarding in Quebec, ever hear of that?

Work sucks, rivers rule, need to get another job on a river,

Ross


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> Kevin,
> I have to ditto what Ross said. It is nice to see someone out there spreading
> the good news about riverboarding. I also have to agree that I wish I could
> be there but I don't have nearly as good an excuse as he did. I live in NY and
> have to work - of all things. I have never been on the Southern rivers but
> dream of the day.
> Keep the great news coming.
>
> Marshall

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#60 From: marshvet@...
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:37 pm
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Kevin,
I have to ditto what Ross said. It is nice to see someone out there spreading the good news about riverboarding. I also have to agree that I wish I could be there but I don't have nearly as good an excuse as he did. I live in NY and have to work - of all things. I have never been on the Southern rivers but dream of the day.
Keep the great news coming.

Marshall

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#59 From: rossolot@...
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:52 pm
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Yo Big Kev, wish i could make it to your demo days.  Its always a good time
showing newbies the ropes.  I haven't forgotten your offer to show me those
Appalachian Rivers, i'm just stuck in South Florida sailing and surfing and
fishing and snorkelling and all kinds of other mean and nasty things.  Someday
though, i'll get up there.  I like what you're doing with the sport, really
advertising it and raising awareness for it.  We need that!  Riverboarding
should be the newest X games competition.


Still searching for the perfect wave,

Ross


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#58 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:56 pm
Subject: Re: Ripboard Demo Days! hxcsouljah
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Just wanted to add that experienced boarders are welcome to come and
join in on the fun while I'm running the rivers on demos.  I may also
be doing some other rivers in each area the day before or after
depending on my schedule and water levels, so let me know if anyone
wants to do something.

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#57 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:53 pm
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As of right now, I have finalized three dates for ripboard demos.  If
you would like to try riverboarding out for the first time or if you
have already tried it and want to see what a ripboard is like, then I
hope you can make it out.  They are as follows:
Saturday, April 3rd.  Nantahala Falls. Spring Splash at Nantahala
Outdoor Center.  Come find us somewhere around the front of the store
in the manufacturer's expo.
Saturday, May 1st.  Ocoee River, Middle Section.  9:00 am-4: 00 p.m.
Meet at Goforth Creek parking area.
Saturday, June 5th.  Pigeon River.  Meet at the Put-In.  Noon till
five.

I will be bringing boards, an extra helmet and pfd, neoprene socks,
flippers, and two extra wetsuits for you to borrow while trying it
out.  If you have any items like pfd, helmet, or wetsuit, please
bring them as it may help decrease the time you have to wait for a
demo.  I will guide most of the demos except when I've got an
intermediate boarder doing a few runs to give them some more
experience.  We will be alternating guiding and manning the info
table.    If you would like to do a more personalized demo and get
some longer, less rushed runs in, then give me a call at 828-461-2152
to set something up, because obliviously, some of these will be
short.  The Nanty is so cold at this time of year and I expect a lot
of interested customers, that I will just be doing runs of the falls,
though you can do multiple repeat runs.  I'm only doing the Ocoee
from Goforth Creek to the takeout because in my experience the top
has some shallow, bony sections.  The Pigeon has the longest run of
the three demo days.  If you go to the place where you are supposed
to meet me and don't see anyone hanging around, that probably means
that I couldn't find anyone to help me work the table, so please be
patient and I'll get back to you as soon as I finish on the river
with the current demo.  It could also mean that I am showing my
friend the river real quick so that they can do demos on it,
especially if it is early in the day when the water release starts.
And unless I get a chance to run the Pigeon before that day, I may
have to make a run immediately at noon before I start doing demos,
because I feel better guiding on a river that I have run before.

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#56 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:37 am
Subject: Looking for Curiousboarder2003 hxcsouljah
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Ken,

Tried to email you to see if you were still interested in
riverboarding and got the email kicked back to me.  If you ever check
the group page here, please reply, email me, or call me at 828-461-
2152.

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#51 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:49 am
Subject: Re: Lower Gauley hxcsouljah
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Shane,
Would love to see some of your Gauley pics posted.  Those ones of
the Ocoee that you showed me of you and Scott a day or so before we
did the Ocoee looked good too.

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#49 From: "RamCharger17" <shanebolling@...>
Date: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: Lower Gauley RamCharger17
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Great trip report as it made me wish I could be riding the Gauley -
will have to post a few pics from my last couple trips on the Gauley.

Here's to lots of snow this winter so the rivers here in Colorado go
off big time this Summer.  Take it easy on the ski slopes.

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> Yeah, I spent some of the day lost in thought dreaming of rivers
yet
> to be run while I'm putting up furniture fabric.  I don't know what
> I'd do in the winter time if it wasn't for skiing.  Now I've got to
> make sure to keep it sane and not break anything before the rivers
> start running again, but the 15 foot tall kicker is too tempting.

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#48 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: Lower Gauley hxcsouljah
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Yeah, I spent some of the day lost in thought dreaming of rivers yet
to be run while I'm putting up furniture fabric.  I don't know what
I'd do in the winter time if it wasn't for skiing.  Now I've got to
make sure to keep it sane and not break anything before the rivers
start running again, but the 15 foot tall kicker is too tempting.

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#47 From: "Ross Mollenhauer" <rossolot@...>
Date: Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Lower Gauley rossmollenhauer
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Nice trip reports Kev.  Keep them coming for those of us stuck in
offices, they help me waste a good portion of the day day-dreaming
about the river...

Ross


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> This was my first trip to West Virginia and I am definitely going
> back.  I got there too late on a friday to catch anyone going on the
> New River Gorge, but Fayette Station rapid looked awesome at the
> takeout.  The New is on my list for this spring.  I did the Lower
> Gauley the next morning after meeting Liz (Gingerwatergirl) for some
> advice of the lines through the rapids and fun at the karoke bar.
> If you can do the put-in for the lower at the buck-lick branch and
> come in above Koontz's Flume, then do it.  I had to hike in from the
> Middle Gauley Campground and pay the campground owner to drive my
> car down to the takeout at Swiss since I didn't think my car could
> make it over one stream going to the put-in.  The owner of the
> campground has his own marked trial to the river, but it is killer.
> Imagine hiking your board and gear down into a gorge with sandles on
> for a 1/4 mile and you get the picture.  The river was cranking bout
> 5,500 cfs that day as the meadow river was adding some flow where it
> runs into the upper gauley.  Starting at the end of the middle
> Gauley gave me a good warm up to Koontz's Flume.  Don't go right
> here as there is an undercut.  Canyone Doors is best scouted from
> the right bank.  Upper and Lower Mash are on the left afterwards,
> and are big fun wave trains with holes.  Diagional Ledges was
> supposed to give me trouble with all their pour-overs, but other
> than going slightly sideways over one of them and by body being off
> of the board for a second of two, no problem unless I missed the
> worst of it.   A lot of good wave trains afterwards and then comes
> Pure Screaming Hell, then last big rapid on the Gauley.  Watch out
> for the hole on the right as it has a sieve that could suck you down
> and keep you.  There is a hole in the middle of the river along the
> left of the line between the holes and if you can skirt this one or
> slightly hit the edge of it, you will stay out of the bad one.  I
> was tired by the time I got to this one and didn't get lined up good
> at the beginning, so I basically had to point towards the left shore
> and kick like crazy and use my arms to to stay left.  I missed the
> waves of this one because I was going over the sideways instead of
> straight on.  Take a breather before this one, so you will be fresh
> and can get your line earlier.  The river is rated class IV with
> Pure Screaming Hell getting close to a V.  The only bad thing about
> this run is very long pools between the rapids and total flatwater
> after the last rapid for about 2 to 3 miles.  It was the most
> technical water I've done as far as having lines you had to hit and
> avoiding undercuts, so I hope it is good preparation for the Upper
> Gauley this year.  If I find out that the New Rivers is just as good
> prep. for the Upper G, then I'll let you know after I've done them
> both, so you won't have to deal with the long swim through flat
> water.

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#46 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:58 pm
Subject: Lower Gauley hxcsouljah
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This was my first trip to West Virginia and I am definitely going
back.  I got there too late on a friday to catch anyone going on the
New River Gorge, but Fayette Station rapid looked awesome at the
takeout.  The New is on my list for this spring.  I did the Lower
Gauley the next morning after meeting Liz (Gingerwatergirl) for some
advice of the lines through the rapids and fun at the karoke bar.
If you can do the put-in for the lower at the buck-lick branch and
come in above Koontz's Flume, then do it.  I had to hike in from the
Middle Gauley Campground and pay the campground owner to drive my
car down to the takeout at Swiss since I didn't think my car could
make it over one stream going to the put-in.  The owner of the
campground has his own marked trial to the river, but it is killer.
Imagine hiking your board and gear down into a gorge with sandles on
for a 1/4 mile and you get the picture.  The river was cranking bout
5,500 cfs that day as the meadow river was adding some flow where it
runs into the upper gauley.  Starting at the end of the middle
Gauley gave me a good warm up to Koontz's Flume.  Don't go right
here as there is an undercut.  Canyone Doors is best scouted from
the right bank.  Upper and Lower Mash are on the left afterwards,
and are big fun wave trains with holes.  Diagional Ledges was
supposed to give me trouble with all their pour-overs, but other
than going slightly sideways over one of them and by body being off
of the board for a second of two, no problem unless I missed the
worst of it.   A lot of good wave trains afterwards and then comes
Pure Screaming Hell, then last big rapid on the Gauley.  Watch out
for the hole on the right as it has a sieve that could suck you down
and keep you.  There is a hole in the middle of the river along the
left of the line between the holes and if you can skirt this one or
slightly hit the edge of it, you will stay out of the bad one.  I
was tired by the time I got to this one and didn't get lined up good
at the beginning, so I basically had to point towards the left shore
and kick like crazy and use my arms to to stay left.  I missed the
waves of this one because I was going over the sideways instead of
straight on.  Take a breather before this one, so you will be fresh
and can get your line earlier.  The river is rated class IV with
Pure Screaming Hell getting close to a V.  The only bad thing about
this run is very long pools between the rapids and total flatwater
after the last rapid for about 2 to 3 miles.  It was the most
technical water I've done as far as having lines you had to hit and
avoiding undercuts, so I hope it is good preparation for the Upper
Gauley this year.  If I find out that the New Rivers is just as good
prep. for the Upper G, then I'll let you know after I've done them
both, so you won't have to deal with the long swim through flat
water.

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#45 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:34 pm
Subject: Trip Report: Wilson Creek. hxcsouljah
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This probably the closest run to me.  It is located between
Morganton and Lenoir, NC.  This was the first drop and pool type run
that I had done and I love it.  It is a class IV or V depending on
the water level.  0 on the painted gauge is kind of the borderline
between class IV and V.  It is said to be boatable down to -6 inches
on the gauge, but I don't know if that would be two low for us or
not.  Above 0, the holes are supposed to get rougher and most people
look elsewhere if it is above 1 foot.  It has been boated through
the gorge at 1.5 and attempted with some portages and aborted trips
above that.  I'd run it up to a foot, but I'm glad I ran it at 0 for
the first time.  This is not a place to take a beginner as some of
the drops are a little intimidating.  After the first rapid, there
is a good slide into a surfing hole, but beware this hole seems fun
while you're surfing, but even though it looks harmless, it is a
pain to get out of (See pictures and description in the photos
section).  Set up someone on shore with a safety line and camera.
The best way out is to head back across towards the center on the
river instead of downstream.  After that you work through a rock
jumble and here comes ten foot falls.  There is a class three wave
at the top that helps you get some speed and sends you flying around
a curve for a ten foot slide.  Run the wave on the right and the
head center or left of center for the drop.  Scouting is advised.
You can break the drop into two short back, to back drops by staying
more to the right, but if you get too right there is a rock jutting
out.  Mark managed to turn sideways on a bodyboard and skirt the
rock, but he was cutting it close.  Two other drops are next -
Thunderhole and Boatbuster.  Nothing that challenging if you made it
through Ten Foot Falls.  Just more big 6 to 8 foot slides.  There
are two or three more slides that aren't named in guidebooks that
are just as big.  I remember one of them because I went through a
slot just wide enough to fit the board through and realized that  a
rock just barely above the surface was waiting for me.  I call those
tombstone rocks as that is what they look like.  When I hit it I
felt like the old crash test dummy-wear your seatbelt commericals
where they hit the wall and go flying out of the car.  The board hit
it and I went flying foward off of the board, but managed to keep
one hand on it and it pulled over the rock.  Definitely scout if you
are unsure on this section before you are committed to the drop.
Next is Triple Drop.  Basically 3 slides one after another for a
total drop of 15 to 20 feet.  Don't get too left or you will hit the
rock wall.  The bottom hole is good for surfing at 0 on the gauge.
It will hold you, but you can kick out when you are ready to.  After
a long pool, look out for the one undercut.  It is a five foot slide
with a hole that backwashes into an undercut, so it isn't worth the
risk since it isn't that fun compared to the other drops.  Another
one of those features that looks harmless at first, but could be
dangerous.  We walked around, by floating up to the right shore and
then just sliding on our butts for a few feet around it.  There is
another good slide, then some flat then a great rapid called S-turn
that lives up to it's namesake.  S-turn is also called Huntley's
Retreat in honor of a pioneer in boating in the area, Dennis
Huntley.  Legend in the guidebook has it that he attempted this one
at 3 foot on the gauge, got into trouble, and thank God he was also
a climber as he had to climb up a fifty foot rock wall to get out.
After that, you can take out at a pulloff on the road about half a
mile above Brown Mtn. Beach, or you can park at Brown Mtn. Beach as
well.

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#44 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:02 pm
Subject: Overdue Trip Reports. Ocoee River. hxcsouljah
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These will be a lot more helpful to everyone in the southeast US
than to everyone else, but I hope you will all enjoy some of my trip
reports.  I won't give a complete blow by blow of each rapid, use
the internet and guidebooks for that, but I will give my general
opinion on the river and a little on what to expect.
Back in August I ran the Ocoee river in southeast TN.  It is a good
class III and IV roadside road along Hwy. 64/74.  We didn't do the
upper ocoee because you have to pay a small fee to park there and
the releases aren't as often.  There will be more releases on the
upper in the spring and it is supposed to be more difficult with
some bigger ledges.  It is the part of the river that was
articifially altered for the 96 olympics.
We did the middle Ocoee.  You can park along side the road on the
shoulder or pay the parking fee.  The put in is just below the dam.
My general impression was that the first mile or two was very
boney.  I don't know what the release was that day, but I could've
used a little more water.  There were a lot of times where you
almost got stuck on a shelf of rock and a lot of short two foot
ledges without a lot of water to land on.  This first part was bump
and scrap.  I got through here with a bloody nose and also cracked
by bodyboard from side to side on one of the ledges.  After we got
to the confluence with Goforth Creek, things picked up and it became
a big wave type of river.  I was now enjoying things even though I
was keeping the bodyboard together by pressing down on it in the big
stuff.  Some of the highlights were double trouble and also this
steep five or six foot slide into deep water to the right of a giant
boulder.  When you see the powerhouse, the two biggest waves are
coming up.  The approach to them gets shallow again, but then you
get the fun of hell wave and hole, and powerhouse back to back.  The
waves are big and fun, but gentle.  They are rolling waves without a
lot of curl to them, so it's just up and over.  On the second run we
parked at the Goforth Creek confluence in a small lot and walked
under the bridge of the main highway.  This made a short run and
elimated all the scrapy stuff.  I'd recommend starting from here if
the water is low.  If you run it on a bodyboard, especially the
entire run , make sure it is a good quality one and wear gloves or
your knuckles will pay the price from holding onto the underside of
the board.  It is a good run to take beginners if you know the river
or also someone who is looking to move up from the Nanty or a
similar river.

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#41 From: rossolot@...
Date: Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:57 am
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Wow, more crazy people!  Damn, can't get over how cool this board is.  Kevin,
nice pictures man.  I'd be there in a flash if i could get some time off from
work.  Next chance i get though, i'm gonna check out those carolina rivers and
i'll call ya when i do.  I'd never heard of a boardercross before but it sounds
like a helluva lot of fun.



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welcome to the group and to southeast riverboarding.&nbsp; There are some <BR>
good rivers here in North Carolina and in Eastern TN, probably the <BR>
closest to FL and also West Virginia is amazing.&nbsp; I am behind on trip <BR>
reports from the summer and late fall, but I'll have reports and my <BR>
opinions on some of the rivers around here like the Ocoee, Wilson <BR>
Creek, and the lower Gualey.&nbsp; <BR>
I started out on a bodyboard and I guess I'd still be on one if I <BR>
hadn't found a deal on a ripboard after trying one out.&nbsp; I guess I'm <BR>
a little partial since later I became a sales rep for ripboard in the <BR>
carolinas.&nbsp; I still have the board for when a few people want to go <BR>
with me (let them have the ripboards, no need to beat the newbies up <BR>
on the first time-though I think everyone should try it with a <BR>
bodyboard at least once).&nbsp; And me and a friend usually go with a <BR>
ripboard and a bodyboard and switch off a few times when were playing <BR>
in holes.&nbsp; I like being able to run creeks with the ripboard and just <BR>
feel more secure doing the big drops, though my friend would rather <BR>
have an ocean bodyboard and doesn't hesitate to run anything (even <BR>
ten foot drops) on the bodyboard.&nbsp; There are some rivers that have <BR>
enough flow so you can run and not get scraped up on with a <BR>
bodyboard, some that that are runnable if you don't mind scraping <BR>
your knuckles a little bit, and a few like the first mile or two of <BR>
the Ocoee that may very well snap your board (see pictures, but that <BR>
was a cheap board by the way).&nbsp; Hope you can make it up and try out <BR>
some of the rivers.&nbsp; Let me know when you want to and I'll see if I <BR>
can meet you.&nbsp; Kev,&nbsp; 828-461-2152&nbsp; <BR>
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#40 From: rossolot@...
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: Wow, look at all these riverboarders! Good on ya! rossmollenhauer
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Yo Ian,

Awesome site man!  Damn, that did make me jealous.  Florida is the land of fat
lazy rivers with no direction (kinda like its people actually)... maybe i'll
make a visit to North Carolina.  I heard all about the Zambezi though while
working for Serious Fun, but i thought Serious Fun Africa shut down coz of
political problems in Zimbabwe?  Is it back up?  Do you know Jon Imhoof and Tony
and Midge and the other Surf Gods of the Kawarau?

I worked on some Montana and Idaho rivers this summer as a raft guide and went
boarding on my time off and i can see why some people prefer hydrospeeds on
those rocky shallow rivers.

Here's my biggest question for ya though... How do i get a job on the Nile or
the Zambezi starting next fall?  Any suggestions?  When is the best season on
the Zam?

Go with the flow,

Ross

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Good on ya!
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:33:48 +0000 (GMT)

> Hey Ross,
>
> Welcome. I read that you used to work for Serious Fun New Zealand. I used to
be Head Guide for Serious Fun on the Zambezi River. You are on different rivers
now and using different boards. No one in the states really likes to use
bodyboards. The rivers are more bony. Ripboards, Carlson and Morey bodyboards
all have wicked boards so you should look them up.
> I am on the White Nile in Uganda at the moment. Carving up some wicked surf
waves and running some insane grade 5-6 rapids. My site is
www.river-surfing.com. so check it out. Might make you river sick being stuck in
flat florida. But in this site loads of people are hooking up and going to
rivers and posting compitetions so stayed tuned.
>
> Later Bro.
>
> Ian
>
> rossmollenhauer <rossolot@...> wrote:
> Snootchy Bootchies to everybody from a newbie to the board.  I had no
> idea riverboarding had picked up so much in the states!  Its awesome
> to read all yer guys stories and dream of new rivers to play on.
> Anybody know any good rivers in the SE?  Unfortuneatly i live in the
> flatest land on earth now, Florida, and there's not much doing down
> here in terms of riversurfing.  But before this, i lived in
> Queenstown, NZ and worked as a riversurfing guide where i caught the
> bug big time.  (www.riversurfing.co.nz)  We always used boogie boards
> there so its funny now to hear about ripboards and carlson's rescue
> boards.  What does everybody use on here?  And if you've ever used a
> boogie board, which do ya prefer, a boogie board or a hydrospeed?
>
> To that more perfect moment when you're on a wave and the world fades
> away except for the glassy water flying underneath your board,
>
> Ross
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#38 From: Ian Baillie <ianriverboarder@...>
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: Wow, look at all these riverboarders! Good on ya! ianriverboarder
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Hey Ross,

Welcome. I read that you used to work for Serious Fun New Zealand. I used to be Head Guide for Serious Fun on the Zambezi River. You are on different rivers now and using different boards. No one in the states really likes to use bodyboards. The rivers are more bony. Ripboards, Carlson and Morey bodyboards all have wicked boards so you should look them up.
I am on the White Nile in Uganda at the moment. Carving up some wicked surf waves and running some insane grade 5-6 rapids. My site is www.river-surfing.com. so check it out. Might make you river sick being stuck in flat florida. But in this site loads of people are hooking up and going to rivers and posting compitetions so stayed tuned.

Later Bro.

Ian

rossmollenhauer <rossolot@...> wrote:

Snootchy Bootchies to everybody from a newbie to the board. I had no idea riverboarding had picked up so much in the states! Its awesome to read all yer guys stories and dream of new rivers to play on. Anybody know any good rivers in the SE? Unfortuneatly i live in the flatest land on earth now, Florida, and there's not much doing down here in terms of riversurfing. But before this, i lived in Queenstown, NZ and worked as a riversurfing guide where i caught the bug big time. (www.riversurfing.co.nz) We always used boogie boards there so its funny now to hear about ripboards and carlson's rescue boards. What does everybody use on here? And if you've ever used a boogie board, which do ya prefer, a boogie board or a hydrospeed? To that more perfect moment when you're on a wave and the world fades away except for the glassy water flying underneath your board, Ross
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#37 From: "rossmollenhauer" <rossolot@...>
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:27 am
Subject: Wow, look at all these riverboarders! Good on ya! rossmollenhauer
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Snootchy Bootchies to everybody from a newbie to the board.  I had no
idea riverboarding had picked up so much in the states!  Its awesome
to read all yer guys stories and dream of new rivers to play on.
Anybody know any good rivers in the SE?  Unfortuneatly i live in the
flatest land on earth now, Florida, and there's not much doing down
here in terms of riversurfing.  But before this, i lived in
Queenstown, NZ and worked as a riversurfing guide where i caught the
bug big time.  (www.riversurfing.co.nz)  We always used boogie boards
there so its funny now to hear about ripboards and carlson's rescue
boards.  What does everybody use on here?  And if you've ever used a
boogie board, which do ya prefer, a boogie board or a hydrospeed?

To that more perfect moment when you're on a wave and the world fades
away except for the glassy water flying underneath your board,

Ross

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#36 From: "boatnswim" <cuff_cuff@...>
Date: Sat Jan 3, 2004 12:07 am
Subject: new member....hi all! boatnswim
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h'lo!
  from the ottawa river,
i live on the river from apr-nov, generally board from may -sept,
have been getting more into boarding over the past couple of summers
rather than boating, gotten away from boating mainly for 2 reasons
1- too many ego-tourists out there, another term being "citiots"
    and pro boaters who think they own the river....sad case when one
    who is 3rd generation living on these river banks and can't even
get out on the river to surf or play in the waves & holes for huge
lineups.

2- working in the whitewater boat design biz part time kinda
    sickend me for w/w boats,tired of the damn things in general.

so whilst it's brrrr up heeerrre i'll be lookin' fwd. to hearing
stories from those of you'se in the sunny south, and itchin to get
back on....or rather ..IN the river.

also have a great place to river board on our mississppi river up
here, it involves all kindsa extra toys too and a water ski rope tied
to a tree,

Mikie !
near ottawa canada

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#34 From: "Kevin" <bigkevnc@...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 12:54 am
Subject: Re: EPA Proposes to Allow Dumping of Partially Treated Sewage Into Rivers hxcsouljah
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Liz,

thanks for the heads up on the alert.  I sent in my comments to the
epa.  Everyone should do the same.  I for one don't want to have to
add a HazMat suit to my equipment just so I can go out when the water
levels are really cranking.

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#31 From: "oceanmad23" <richard.lewis@...>
Date: Wed Nov 5, 2003 6:01 pm
Subject: new to group oceanmad23
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hello all, My name is Richard and with california white water extreme
and i am new to your group. i have post some of my pictures if you
would like to look at them...i am from sacramento california and
board on the south fork of the american although there are many,many
rivers around here...i am planning some winter trips ( after big
storms ) if anyone lives close an would like to attend just let me
know...peace and board easy....

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#29 From: marshvet@...
Date: Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: New Photos marshall_breite
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Kevin et al,
Thanks for the pictures. I haven't gone boarding since the Spring but hope to get out soon. Since you showed 2 pix of broken styrofoam boards, how come you are selling your Ripboard?
Next question, since you mentioned (picture caption) that the good surfing spot was a keeper, what was you experience getting out of it? ie. any thoughts on techniques to share?
Thanks,
Marshall

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#26 From: "asemite" <asemite@...>
Date: Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:33 pm
Subject: cool new magazine asemite
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there's a cool magazine launching next month called Xtreme Video.
check it out at www.dv.com/xtremevideo.

Here's a brief description:

From skateboarding, surfing, and motorcross to mountain climbing and
deep-sea exploration, Xtreme Video Magazine celebrates capturing life
in the extreme. Xtreme Video Magazine is geared for professionals and
thrill seekers with an avid desire to shoot video and photos of their
adventures. Feature stories and photo essays take readers behind the
scenes to reveal the secrets of capturing the option on video and in
photographs.

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#20 From: "curiousboarder2003" <curiousboarder2003@...>
Date: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:24 am
Subject: Greetings curiousboard...
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Doing a little research into this sport...I have never been in a
kayak or a white water raft..

I reside in Atlanta Ga. so I will be trying rbrding in
Nantahala,Ocoee etc..

Was wondering if I might get a little help on equipment referrals:
(if phsical size is a factor stats would be: 6'1" 170 lbs)

PFD?
Wetsuit or Drysuit?  (manufacturer and mm or model)
Helmet?
Fins?
RiverBoard? (I would really love to hear about the difference in the
Carlson brd. and the Ripboard..Of course I can see the difference in
the construction and design)Which rides better...from the pic.'s the
Ripboard looks much more durable.

Peace and thanks in advance!

Ken Taylor

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#15 From: vrablik@...
Date: Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: Re: we just keep growing. garibaldicu
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Thanks for the info. I'm about 25 min from Golden, so that works out
great. I'll be looking into it...

	 - Joe V.
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		  if you're not part of the future
		  then get out of the way..."

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, hxcsouljah wrote:

> If Boulder is near Golding, you might want to check out Ripboard's
> outpost.  www.ripboard.com  They can probably give you great
> instruction as they are one of the two innovators/makers in
> riverboarding in the states.  Me and a friend didn't have anyone to
> teach and it worked out alright.  We are still trying to get surfing
> down pat, but even though we haven't mastered it yet, it doesn't keep
> us from having fun just plowing through the big stuff.  It's really
> just a progression of the level of fear.  The rapids that I was
> nervous going through on the first time, I run with ease now that
> I've done it, whereas some of the stuff I run now, I probably
> wouldn't have run a few months ago because it would've scared the
> crap out of me.  With each time, you will see what you thought was
> possible increase as well as learn your limitations.  Have fun and
> hope you get to get at it some more.
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#12 From: vrablik@...
Date: Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:30 pm
Subject: Re: we just keep growing. garibaldicu
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Thanks for the welcome, Kevin. I've only tried riverboarding once. I had a
rather crappy teacher and didn't learn anything, but I loved it. Looking
forward to trying it some more...

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> welcome garibaldicu, we look foward to hearing from you.  Keep riding
> hard.
>
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#10 From: "RamCharger17" <shanebolling@...>
Date: Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:24 pm
Subject: FIBArk Festival RamCharger17
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This past weekend was the 55th annual First in Boating the Arkansas
River (FIBArk) festival in Salida, Colorada.  The festival included a
number of events ranging from downriver races to slalom events and
rodeo/freestyle. The festival ran for 4 days and on Saturday I
brought along extra riverboards and gear so people could try a free
demo.  The rodeo hole was a great place for first timers to give it a
go as several ended up getting the hang of surfing on a riverboard. I
answered lots of questions and in talking with one person found out
that an article about riverboarding is due to be published in Fortune
magazine in the near future.  Evidently the author tried
riverboarding in Washington - looks like our little known sport is
starting to catch on.

The most noteworthy demo this weekend was a guy named Mark.  Mark was
determined to try a kayak and a riverboard.  He started with the
kayak but found it too tippy.  Next up was the riverboard.  Once Mark
suited up and got on the board, I jumped in along side of him and
together we floated downriver through the whitewater park.  I told
him - just hold onto the board - as I kept one hand on his board to
help him steer.  Mark enjoyed the ride immensely, and wanted to know
if it would be possible for him to do it on his own.  Mark is a
paraplegic and no longer has the use of his legs so kicking is not an
option.  If a riverboard with a fin that could be turned using hand
controls was available - maybe somebody like Mark could do it on his
own.  It was awesome to see someone determined to try something new
regardless of their disability.

Shane

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#5 From: "otis632" <DAVETOOLEY@...>
Date: Tue Jun 10, 2003 9:21 pm
Subject: RIVER SURF COLORADO otis632
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My name is David TOOLEY I live in denver co. I ride a carelson river
board how many other people ride carlsons as well?I ride at the
golden park on monday evenings as I have 2 little kids.I wish i had
more time to surf there are a quite a fer river boarders in the
denver area thanks to shane of ripboards.we also have boarder cross
races thru the gates but as of yet no freestyle venue.take it easy
and always SURF HARD

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