Hello all,
 
Are you looking to use the "Eggs" or other misc gaunts for longsword drills or
free play?  I love my Egg gaunts, but they make performing the windings awkward
and not as strong if they were to be performed without them.
 
Then again, I have kind of given up on any form of longsword free play.  Most
folks I have near enough to practice with would rather have a knock-about with
the waters or just sit back and snipe at the hands to really explore the art as
a whole which gets to be dull really quickly.  So without having folks more
serious to practice with, it's unfortunately more forms and pell work for me. 
Sigh...
 
Take care,
 
Matthew

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From: Paul Wagner <galloglaigh@...>
Subject: RE: [western-arts] looking for suggestions for hand protection?
To: "western-arts@yahoogroups.com" <western-arts@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 4:34 AM



Fine!

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      Hey Paul, how well do those work when pressed against a crossguard?

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> To: "western-arts@yahoogroups.com" <western-arts@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 10:11:49 PM

> Subject: RE: [western-arts] looking for suggestions for hand protection?

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> While many of our guys use Hockey / Lacrosse / Cricket gloves, they are simply

> NOT adequate protection. I've had a finger broken by a feathersword through a

> Lacrosse glove, and this is a very ,widespead, yet under-reported problem.

>

>

> Many reproduction gauntlets are also not adequate, *or* weigh as much as the

> sword, thus effect movement rather seriously! Plus the good ones are pretty

> expensive.

>

>

> We are now using Egg Armor Kydex Gauntlets (google it!), which are ballistic

> plastic mitten made for SCA use, and they are the best protection we've yet

> found. We use them for shinai, plastic wasters and steel, and even
quarterstaff,

> and they are brilliant.

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> Paul

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> >> This has been the subject of much discussion on the Schola Gladiatoria

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> >> forum. The consensus there is that Lacrosse gloves provide the best

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> >> protection, with the addition of thumb ends used in cricket.

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> >> On 23 Nov 2009, at 02:00 (23/11), John Enzinas wrote:

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> >>> Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.

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> >>> I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:

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> >>> but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated

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> >>> since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking

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> >> off

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> >>> with someone's money.

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> >>> Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?

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> >>> -j

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Ahh thank you. I can now add that to my ever growing list on uses for child
molesters and abusers. Sharp sward sparring.

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From: Jon Dow <beowulf_firestorm@...>
To: western-arts@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 4:29:22 PM
Subject: Re: [western-arts] looking for suggestions for hand protection?

those are really nice but I have gotten away with Lacross and Hocky gloves, and
they are a lot less pricey, though if you are intending to be sparing with sharp
swords go with the Gauntlets (Never recomend sparing with sharp swords by the
way)

Tim

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Subject: [western-arts] looking for suggestions for hand protection?
To: western-arts@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 9:00 PM






Hey All,
I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable for
Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.

I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:
http://www.performa ncearmour. com/Individual_ Item_Pages/ Fingergauntlets_
type2.html

but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated
since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking off
with someone's money.

Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?

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Subject: [western-arts] Krigarenve
To: western-arts@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 6:28 PM


 



Hello Everyone,

Ok, as some of you know I teach a Martial arts class called the Krigarenve which
is a Northern European Martial Art. I have been working on a students training
hand book that will help not only the local students that I have but also the
out of state students that are trying to expand on there training. I have a
started hand book which is downloadable form the website but have been unhappy
with my ability to finish it properly.

That having been seed myself, my students and the others that have helped me
with the research used in the development of the Krigarenve have all come to 3
conclusions, I am a good researcher, I am a good instructor, but I am a terrible
author. so I have written a new hand book outline to help me re-write the
student hand book better and hopefully faster with a stronger finished product
that will help me to better put together the video training projects that will
fallow the hand book.

I am including the outline in this post hopping that if there is anyone out
their that has some positive or constructive feed back that may be helpful or
sees something that I missed that really shouldn't have your opinions will be
very welcomed.

Please keep in mind that this outline i not quite completed yet. I wanted to get
more public input before I put the finishing touches on it just in case I missed
some big things.

The Krigarenve Student Handbook Outline

Part 1

1. - Book Dedication or Preface

2. - Book Table of Contents

3. - Introduction and history of the Krigarenve
A. - What is the Krigarenve
B. - The Development of the Krigarenve
C. - The History of the Krigarenve

4. - Introduction to Training
A. - Training Safety
I. - The importance of warming up
II. - The importance of strength training
III. - The importance of falling exercises
IIII. - The importance of self control and patients in your training
B. - Training Warmups
I. - Neck stretches
a. - Neck rolls
b. - Side to sides
II. - Shoulder stretches
a. - Shoulder rolls
b. - Cross chest pulls
III. - Wrist stretches
a. - Wrist rolls
b. - Wrist twists
c. - Wrist pushes
IIII. - Waist stretches
a. - Barrel rolls
b. - Front to backs
c. - Side to sides
V. - Knee & Leg stretches
a. - Knee rolls
b. - Hurdlers
c. - Leg pulls
VI. - Ankle stretches
a. - Ankle rolls
b. - Front to backs
VII. - Falling exercises
a. - Forward falls
b. - Side falls
c. - Back Falls
d. - Front falls
C. - Strength Training
I. - Solo drills
a. -
II. - Partner drills
a. -
III. - Group drills
a. -

5. - Introduction to the stages of Krigarenve training
A. - The Gestir
I. - The Krigarenve's definition of a fighter
II. - The overall training requirements for a all 3 Gestir training Levels
B. - The Dreng
I. - The Krigarenve's definition of a warrior and how it compares to a fighter
II. - The overall training requirements for a all 3 Dreng training Levels
C. - The Styrsman
I. - The Krigarenve's definition of a leader and how it compares to a fighter or
warrior
II. - The overall training requirements for a all 3 Styrsmen training Levels
D. - The Jarl
I. - The Krigarenve's definition of a martial leader and teacher
II. - The overall training expectations of a Jarl

Part 2

6. - Introduction to Gestir training requirements and Bragds
A. - Introduction to the name Gestir and the philosophy and educational
expectations of this Beginners class
B. - Class 3 Gestir training
II. - Defensive Bragd
a. - Upper Parry
b. - Downward Parry
c. - Outward Body Parry
d. - Inward Body Parry
e. - Evasion Body Movements
f. - Contact Absorption
III. - Striking Bragd
a. - Jab (and variations of)
b. - Uppercut (and variations of)
c. - Hook (and variations of)
d. - Elbow (and variations of)
e. - Cross
f. - Palm Strike
g. - Hammer Strike (and variations of)
h. - Spear Hand (and variations of)
i. - Shoulder Bash
j. - Head But
IIII. - Kicking Bragd
a. - Front Kick (and variations of)
b. - Stomp
c. - Side Kick (and variations of)
d. - Knee (and variations of)
e. - Chicken Kick
C. - Class 2 Gestir training
I. - Falling Bragd
a. - Forward Fall
b. - Back Fall
c. - Side Falls
d. - Front Falls
II. - History of Glima and its relation to the Krigarenve
a. - What is Glima
b. - What Glima Taught Viking Warriors
c. - Where Glima has Survived
d. - How Glima Relates to the Krigarenve
III. - The 8 basic Bragds of Glima
a. - The Outside Stroke
b. - The Inside-click, the Cross-Click & Back-Heel
c. - The Twist over the Knee, the Outside Hip
d. - The Hook
e. - The Cross Buttock
f. - The Inside-Hip
g. - The Cross-Buttock Aloft
h. - The Full or Half Buttock
D. - Class 1 Gestir training
I. - Fundamentals of Grappling
a. - General body orientation
b. - Balance
c. - The principals of Martial arts
II. - Introduction to the First Quarter of the Throws and Takedowns
a. - The difference between Throws and Takedowns
b. - The first quarter of Takedowns
c. - The first quarter of Sweeping and Tripping throws
d. - The first quarter of Hand and Pushing throws
e. - The first quarter of Hip throws
f. - The first quarter of Shoulder throws
g. - The first quarter of Body throws

Part 3

7. - Introduction to Dreng training requirements and Bragds
A. - Introduction to the name Dreng and the philosophy and educational
expectations of this fighters class
B. - Class 3 Dreng Training
I. - Introduction to the Second Quarter of the Throws and Takedowns
a. - The second quarter of Takedowns
b. - The second quarter of Sweeping and Tripping throws
c. - The second quarter of Hand and Pushing throws
d. - The second quarter of Hip throws
e. - The second quarter of Shoulder throws
f. - The second quarter of Body throws
II. - Introduction to the Third Quarter of the Throws and Takedowns
a. - The third quarter of Takedowns
b. - The third quarter of Sweeping and Tripping throws
c. - The third quarter of Hand and Pushing throws
d. - The third quarter of Hip throws
e. - The third quarter of Shoulder throws
f. - The third quarter of Body throws
C. - Class 2 Dreng Training
I. - Introduction to the Last Quarter of the Throws and Takedowns
a. - The last quarter of Takedowns
b. - The last quarter of Sweeping and Tripping throws
c. - The last quarter of Hand and Pushing throws
d. - The last quarter of Hip throws
e. - The last quarter of Shoulder throws
f. - The last quarter of Body throws
II. - Introduction to Throwing Bragd Counters
a. - Sweeping and tripping counters
b. - Hand and pushing counters
c. - Hip counters
d. - Shoulder counters
e. - Body counters
III. - Introduction to the First Half of Grappling Bragd
a. - The first half of arm locks
b. - The first half of leg locks
e. - The first half of chokes
d. - The first half of pins
D. - Class 1 Dreng Training
I. - Introduction to the Last Half of Grappling Bragd
a. - The second half of arm locks
b. - The second half of leg locks
e. - The second half of chokes
d. - The second half of pins
II. - Introduction to Grappling Bragd Counters
a. - Arm lock counters
b. - Leg lock counters
c. - Choke counters
d. - Pin counters
III. - Introduction to Function and use of the Stav
a. - Striking techniques
b. - Parrying techniques
c. - Takedown techniques
d. - Advanced techniques and counters

Part 4

8. - Introduction to Styrsmen training requirements and Bragds
A. - Introduction to the History of the name Styrsmen and the philosophy and
educational expectations of this Warrior class
B. - Class 3 Styrsmen Training
I. - Introduction to the function and use of the Axe Handle
a. - Striking techniques
b. - Parrying techniques
c. - Takedown techniques
d. - Advanced techniques and counters
II. - Introduction to the function and use of the Saex
a. - Striking techniques
b. - Parrying techniques
c. - Takedown techniques
d. - Advanced techniques and counters III. - Introduction to Philosophies and
tactics of the ancient Northern European Warrior
a. -
C. - Class 2 Styrsmen Training
I. - Introduction to the function and use of the hand Axe
a. - Striking techniques
b. - Parrying techniques
c. - Takedown techniques
d. - Advanced techniques and counters
II. - Introduction to the function and use of the Large Axe
a. - Striking techniques
b. - Parrying techniques
c. - Takedown techniques
d. - Advanced techniques and counters
III. - Introduction to the function and use of the Spear
a. - Striking techniques
b. - Parrying techniques
c. - Takedown techniques
d. - Advanced techniques and counters IIII. - Introduction to teaching
philosophies and skills
a. -
D. - Class 1 Styrsmen Training
I. - Introduction to function and use of the Shield
a. - Striking techniques
b. - Parrying techniques
c. - Advanced techniques and counters
II. - Introduction to function and use of the Sword
a. - Striking techniques
b. - Parrying techniques
c. - Takedown techniques
d. - Advanced techniques and counters
III. - Development of function and use of the sword and shield
a. - Offensive combinations
b. - Defensive combinations
c. - Advanced combinations and counters
IIII. - Development of function and use of the Shield with other weapons
a. - Shield and the saex
b. - Shield and axes
c. - Shield and the spear
V. - Introduction to leadership philosophies and skills
a. -

Part 5

9. - Introduction to Jarl training requirements and Bragds
A. - Introduction to the name Jarl and the philosophy and educational
expectations of this Leadership class
I. -
B. - Introduction to advanced Jarl training tactics
I. -
C. - Introduction to advanced Jarl skill sets
I. -

Thanks for your help,
Vince











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Hello Everyone,

Ok, as some of you know I teach a Martial arts class called the Krigarenve which
is a Northern European Martial Art. I have been working on a students training
hand book that will help not only the local students that I have but also the
out of state students that are trying to expand on there training. I have a
started hand book which is downloadable form the website but have been unhappy
with my ability to finish it properly.

That having been seed myself, my students and the others that have helped me
with the research used in the development of the Krigarenve have all come to 3
conclusions, I am a good researcher, I am a good instructor, but I am a terrible
author. so I have written a new hand book outline to help me re-write the
student hand book better and hopefully faster with a stronger finished product
that will help me to better put together the video training projects that will
fallow the hand book.

I am including the outline in this post hopping that if there is anyone out
their that has some positive or constructive feed back that may be helpful or
sees something that I missed that really shouldn't have your opinions will be
very welcomed.

Please keep in mind that this outline i not quite completed yet. I wanted to get
more public input before I put the finishing touches on it just in case I missed
some big things.

The Krigarenve Student Handbook Outline

Part 1

1. - Book Dedication or Preface

2. - Book Table of Contents

3. - Introduction and history of the Krigarenve
	 A. - What is the Krigarenve
	 B. - The Development of the Krigarenve
	 C. - The History of the Krigarenve

4. - Introduction to Training
	 A. - Training Safety
		 I. - The importance of warming up
		 II. - The importance of strength training
		 III. - The importance of falling exercises
		 IIII. - The importance of self control and patients in your training
	 B. - Training Warmups
		 I. - Neck stretches
			 a. - Neck rolls
			 b. - Side to sides
		 II. - Shoulder stretches
			 a. - Shoulder rolls
			 b. - Cross chest pulls
		 III. - Wrist stretches
			 a. - Wrist rolls
			 b. - Wrist twists
			 c. - Wrist pushes
		 IIII. - Waist stretches
			 a. - Barrel rolls
			 b. - Front to backs
			 c. - Side to sides
		 V. - Knee & Leg stretches
			 a. - Knee rolls
			 b. - Hurdlers
			 c. - Leg pulls
		 VI. - Ankle stretches
			 a. - Ankle rolls
			 b. - Front to backs
		 VII. - Falling exercises
			 a. - Forward falls
			 b. - Side falls
			 c. - Back Falls
			 d. - Front falls
	 C. - Strength Training
		 I. - Solo drills
			 a. -
		 II. - Partner drills
			 a. -
		 III. - Group drills
			 a. -

5. - Introduction to the stages of Krigarenve training
	 A. - The Gestir
		 I. - The Krigarenve's definition of a fighter
		 II. - The overall training requirements for a all 3 Gestir training Levels
	 B. - The Dreng
		 I. - The Krigarenve's definition of a warrior and how it compares to a fighter
		 II. - The overall training requirements for a all 3 Dreng training Levels
	 C. - The Styrsman
		 I. - The Krigarenve's definition of a leader and how it compares to a fighter
or warrior
		 II. - The overall training requirements for a all 3 Styrsmen training Levels
	 D. - The Jarl
		 I. - The Krigarenve's definition of a martial leader and teacher
		 II. - The overall training expectations of a Jarl

Part 2

6. - Introduction to Gestir training requirements and Bragds
	 A. - Introduction to the name Gestir and the philosophy and educational
expectations of this Beginners class
	 B. - Class 3 Gestir training
		 II. - Defensive Bragd
			 a. - Upper Parry
			 b. - Downward Parry
			 c. - Outward Body Parry
			 d. - Inward Body Parry
			 e. - Evasion Body Movements
			 f. - Contact Absorption
		 III. - Striking Bragd
			 a. - Jab (and variations of)
			 b. - Uppercut (and variations of)
			 c. - Hook (and variations of)
			 d. - Elbow (and variations of)
			 e. - Cross
			 f. - Palm Strike
			 g. - Hammer Strike (and variations of)
			 h. - Spear Hand (and variations of)
			 i. - Shoulder Bash
			 j. - Head But
		 IIII. - Kicking Bragd
			 a. - Front Kick (and variations of)
			 b. - Stomp
			 c. - Side Kick (and variations of)
			 d. - Knee (and variations of)
			 e. - Chicken Kick
	 C. - Class 2 Gestir training
		 I. - Falling Bragd
			 a. - Forward Fall
			 b. - Back Fall
			 c. - Side Falls
			 d. - Front Falls
		 II. - History of Glima and its relation to the Krigarenve
			 a. - What is Glima
			 b. - What Glima Taught Viking Warriors
			 c. - Where Glima has Survived
			 d. - How Glima Relates to the Krigarenve
		 III. - The 8 basic Bragds of Glima
			 a. - The Outside Stroke
			 b. - The Inside-click, the Cross-Click & Back-Heel
			 c. - The Twist over the Knee, the Outside Hip
			 d. - The Hook
			 e. - The Cross Buttock
			 f. - The Inside-Hip
			 g. - The Cross-Buttock Aloft
			 h. - The Full or Half Buttock
	 D. - Class 1 Gestir training
		 I. - Fundamentals of Grappling
			 a. - General body orientation
			 b. - Balance
			 c. - The principals of Martial arts
		 II. - Introduction to the First Quarter of the Throws and Takedowns
			 a. - The difference between Throws and Takedowns
			 b. - The first quarter of Takedowns
			 c. - The first quarter of Sweeping and Tripping throws
			 d. - The first quarter of Hand and Pushing throws
			 e. - The first quarter of Hip throws
			 f. - The first quarter of Shoulder throws
			 g. - The first quarter of Body throws

Part 3

7. - Introduction to Dreng training requirements and Bragds
	 A. - Introduction to the name Dreng and the philosophy and educational
expectations of this fighters class
	 B. - Class 3 Dreng Training
		 I. - Introduction to the Second Quarter of the Throws and Takedowns
			 a. - The second quarter of Takedowns
			 b. - The second quarter of Sweeping and Tripping throws
			 c. - The second quarter of Hand and Pushing throws
			 d. - The second quarter of Hip throws
			 e. - The second quarter of Shoulder throws
			 f. - The second quarter of Body throws
		 II. - Introduction to the Third Quarter of the Throws and Takedowns
			 a. - The third quarter of Takedowns
			 b. - The third quarter of Sweeping and Tripping throws
			 c. - The third quarter of Hand and Pushing throws
			 d. - The third quarter of Hip throws
			 e. - The third quarter of Shoulder throws
			 f. - The third quarter of Body throws
	 C. - Class 2 Dreng Training
		 I. - Introduction to the Last Quarter of the Throws and Takedowns
			 a. - The last quarter of Takedowns
			 b. - The last quarter of Sweeping and Tripping throws
			 c. - The last quarter of Hand and Pushing throws
			 d. - The last quarter of Hip throws
			 e. - The last quarter of Shoulder throws
			 f. - The last quarter of Body throws
		 II. - Introduction to Throwing Bragd Counters
			 a. - Sweeping and tripping counters
			 b. - Hand and pushing counters
			 c. - Hip counters
			 d. - Shoulder counters
			 e. - Body counters
		 III. - Introduction to the First Half of Grappling Bragd
			 a. - The first half of arm locks
			 b. - The first half of leg locks
			 e. - The first half of chokes
			 d. - The first half of pins
	 D. - Class 1 Dreng Training
		 I. - Introduction to the Last Half of Grappling Bragd
			 a. - The second half of arm locks
			 b. - The second half of leg locks
			 e. - The second half of chokes
			 d. - The second half of pins
		 II. - Introduction to Grappling Bragd Counters
			 a. - Arm lock counters
			 b. - Leg lock counters
			 c. - Choke counters
			 d. - Pin counters
		 III. - Introduction to Function and use of the Stav
			 a. - Striking techniques
			 b. - Parrying techniques
			 c. - Takedown techniques
			 d. - Advanced techniques and counters

Part 4

8. - Introduction to Styrsmen training requirements and Bragds
	 A. - Introduction to the History of the name Styrsmen and the philosophy and
educational expectations of this Warrior class
	 B. - Class 3 Styrsmen Training
		 I. - Introduction to the function and use of the Axe Handle
			 a. - Striking techniques
			 b. - Parrying techniques
			 c. - Takedown techniques
			 d. - Advanced techniques and counters
		 II. - Introduction to the function and use of the Saex
			 a. - Striking techniques
			 b. - Parrying techniques
			 c. - Takedown techniques
			 d. - Advanced techniques and counters 	 III. - Introduction to Philosophies
and tactics of the ancient Northern European Warrior
			 a. -
	 C. - Class 2 Styrsmen Training
		 I. - Introduction to the function and use of the hand Axe
			 a. - Striking techniques
			 b. - Parrying techniques
			 c. - Takedown techniques
			 d. - Advanced techniques and counters
		 II. - Introduction to the function and use of the Large Axe
			 a. - Striking techniques
			 b. - Parrying techniques
			 c. - Takedown techniques
			 d. - Advanced techniques and counters
		 III. - Introduction to the function and use of the Spear
			 a. - Striking techniques
			 b. - Parrying techniques
			 c. - Takedown techniques
			 d. - Advanced techniques and counters 	 IIII. - Introduction to teaching
philosophies and skills
			 a. -
	 D. - Class 1 Styrsmen Training
		 I. - Introduction to function and use of the Shield
			 a. - Striking techniques
			 b. - Parrying techniques
			 c. - Advanced techniques and counters
		 II. - Introduction to function and use of the Sword
			 a. - Striking techniques
			 b. - Parrying techniques
			 c. - Takedown techniques
			 d. - Advanced techniques and counters
		 III. - Development of function and use of the sword and shield
			 a. - Offensive combinations
			 b. - Defensive combinations
			 c. - Advanced combinations and counters
		 IIII. - Development of function and use of the Shield with other weapons
			 a. - Shield and the saex
			 b. - Shield and axes
			 c. - Shield and the spear
		 V. - Introduction to leadership philosophies and skills
			 a. -

Part 5

9. - Introduction to Jarl training requirements and Bragds
	 A. - Introduction to the name Jarl and the philosophy and educational
expectations of this Leadership class
		 I. -
	 B. - Introduction to advanced Jarl training tactics
		 I. -
	 C. - Introduction to advanced Jarl skill sets
		 I. -


Thanks for your help,
Vince

Fine!

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       Hey Paul, how well do those work when pressed against a crossguard?

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----- Original Message ----

> From: Paul Wagner <galloglaigh@...>

> To: "western-arts@yahoogroups.com" <western-arts@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 10:11:49 PM

> Subject: RE: [western-arts] looking for suggestions for hand protection?

>

>

> While many of our guys use Hockey / Lacrosse / Cricket gloves, they are simply

> NOT adequate protection. I've had a finger broken by a feathersword through a

> Lacrosse glove, and this is a very ,widespead, yet under-reported problem.

>

>

> Many reproduction gauntlets are also not adequate, *or* weigh as much as the

> sword, thus effect movement rather seriously! Plus the good ones are pretty

> expensive.

>

>

> We are now using Egg Armor Kydex Gauntlets (google it!), which are ballistic

> plastic mitten made for SCA use, and they are the best protection we've yet

> found. We use them for shinai, plastic wasters and steel, and even
quarterstaff,

> and they are brilliant.

>

>

> Paul

>

>

>

>

> >> This has been the subject of much discussion on the Schola Gladiatoria

>

> >> forum. The consensus there is that Lacrosse gloves provide the best

>

> >> protection, with the addition of thumb ends used in cricket.

>

> >>

>

> >> Regards,

>

> >>

>

> >> James

>

> >>

>

> >>

>

> >> On 23 Nov 2009, at 02:00 (23/11), John Enzinas wrote:

>

> >>

>

> >>> Hey All,

>

> >>> I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable

>

> >> for

>

> >>> Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.

>

> >>>

>

> >>> I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:

>

> >>>

>

> >>

>
http://www.performancearmour.com/Individual_Item_Pages/Fingergauntlets_type2.htm\
l

>

> >>>

>

> >>> but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated

>

> >>> since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking

>

> >> off

>

> >>> with someone's money.

>

> >>>

>

> >>> Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?

>

> >>>

>

> >>> -j

>

> >>>

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> >>>

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Taught FMA on Sundays in October and Nov - review of several guest GM's lessons,
intro to sparring, basic falls. Student population has been mixed (old timers
like me, high school students, college students, one family of 4 all with
different skill sets)

The last three Thursdays at BSP, we have focused on the cane aspects of
Bartitsu, Kali flow fundamentals (stick, empty hand, check vs.jam) empty hand vs
knife, take down and finish locks.

Did a 10 hour workshop (over the course of several days) at Lowell High School.
Class of 30+ freshman.

Yesterday - did a Defensive Gymnastics/Singlestick workshop at the Dickens Fair
build weekend. Had ten men (including Serious Martial Artist, Experienced Stage
Combatants, Begining Actors, Security guards) and one little ten year old girl
who wanted to fight like a pirate.

Have a happy thanksgiving everyone,

Tom

--- In western-arts@yahoogroups.com, Ken Pfrenger <kenpfrenger@...> wrote:
>
> Saturday found me in Mechanicsville Maryland at Tim Anderson's
> "Maryland Martial Arts". I gave a 5 hour seminar to their fight team
> on leg locks, takedowns and takedowns into submissions from sambo. We
> also worked some casting punches for brutal ground and pound. We also
> touched a bit on savate since there was some interest in seeing just
> what it was like. A very good time was had by all, I hope, and I look
> forward to going back down in a few months to do it again.
>
> Sundays session:
> 2 rds shadow boxing
> 2 rds boxing
> 1 rd floor GnP bag
> 2 rds footwork
>
> We then broke out the longsword trainers and went over some basics and
> a few plays of Durchlaufen...not something we are heavily focusing on
> but a fun diversion from the constant punching and twisting of limbs.
> It is still great training but the variety is welcome.
>
> We ended the session with some more entrenching tool work. Basically
> covering what we did last week and getting more comfortable with it.
> We worked lopatka vs knife a bit more this time around, getting used
> to intercepting the knife with the flat of the shovel rather than the
> edge. The edge is definitely more deadly but the flat of the shovel
> offers a much greater chance of successfully defending oneself against
> the attack that IMO it is vastly
> superior. I will have to try and get a few clips of this filmed to share.
>
> So what have you all been up to?
>
> Ken
>

On 23 Nov 2009, at 03:11 (23/11), Paul Wagner wrote:

>
> While many of our guys use Hockey / Lacrosse / Cricket gloves, they are simply
NOT adequate protection. I've had a finger broken by a feathersword through a
Lacrosse glove, and this is a very ,widespead, yet under-reported problem.

Not something I've experienced.

Hey Paul, how well do those work when pressed against a crossguard?
 George


When people told themselves their past with stories, explained their present
with stories, and foretold their future with stories, the best place by the fire
was kept for the storyteller.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Paul Wagner <galloglaigh@...>
> To: "western-arts@yahoogroups.com" <western-arts@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 10:11:49 PM
> Subject: RE: [western-arts] looking for suggestions for hand protection?
>
>
> While many of our guys use Hockey / Lacrosse / Cricket gloves, they are simply
> NOT adequate protection. I've had a finger broken by a feathersword through a
> Lacrosse glove, and this is a very ,widespead, yet under-reported problem.
>
>
> Many reproduction gauntlets are also not adequate, *or* weigh as much as the
> sword, thus effect movement rather seriously! Plus the good ones are pretty
> expensive.
>
>
> We are now using Egg Armor Kydex Gauntlets (google it!), which are ballistic
> plastic mitten made for SCA use, and they are the best protection we've yet
> found. We use them for shinai, plastic wasters and steel, and even
quarterstaff,
> and they are brilliant.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> >> This has been the subject of much discussion on the Schola Gladiatoria
>
> >> forum. The consensus there is that Lacrosse gloves provide the best
>
> >> protection, with the addition of thumb ends used in cricket.
>
> >>
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >>
>
> >> James
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> On 23 Nov 2009, at 02:00 (23/11), John Enzinas wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> Hey All,
>
> >>> I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable
>
> >> for
>
> >>> Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
http://www.performancearmour.com/Individual_Item_Pages/Fingergauntlets_type2.htm\
l
>
> >>>
>
> >>> but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated
>
> >>> since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking
>
> >> off
>
> >>> with someone's money.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?
>
> >>>
>
> >>> -j
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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http://www.eggarmor.net/01.htm
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----- Original Message ----
> From: Paul Wagner <galloglaigh@...>
> To: "western-arts@yahoogroups.com" <western-arts@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 10:11:49 PM
> Subject: RE: [western-arts] looking for suggestions for hand protection?
>
>
> While many of our guys use Hockey / Lacrosse / Cricket gloves, they are simply
> NOT adequate protection. I've had a finger broken by a feathersword through a
> Lacrosse glove, and this is a very ,widespead, yet under-reported problem.
>
>
> Many reproduction gauntlets are also not adequate, *or* weigh as much as the
> sword, thus effect movement rather seriously! Plus the good ones are pretty
> expensive.
>
>
> We are now using Egg Armor Kydex Gauntlets (google it!), which are ballistic
> plastic mitten made for SCA use, and they are the best protection we've yet
> found. We use them for shinai, plastic wasters and steel, and even
quarterstaff,
> and they are brilliant.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> >> This has been the subject of much discussion on the Schola Gladiatoria
>
> >> forum. The consensus there is that Lacrosse gloves provide the best
>
> >> protection, with the addition of thumb ends used in cricket.
>
> >>
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >>
>
> >> James
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> On 23 Nov 2009, at 02:00 (23/11), John Enzinas wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> Hey All,
>
> >>> I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable
>
> >> for
>
> >>> Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
http://www.performancearmour.com/Individual_Item_Pages/Fingergauntlets_type2.htm\
l
>
> >>>
>
> >>> but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated
>
> >>> since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking
>
> >> off
>
> >>> with someone's money.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?
>
> >>>
>
> >>> -j
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
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> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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While many of our guys use Hockey / Lacrosse / Cricket gloves, they are simply
NOT adequate protection. I've had a finger broken by a feathersword through a
Lacrosse glove, and this is a very ,widespead, yet under-reported problem.


Many reproduction gauntlets are also not adequate, *or* weigh as much as the
sword, thus effect movement rather seriously! Plus the good ones are pretty
expensive.


We are now using Egg Armor Kydex Gauntlets (google it!), which are ballistic
plastic mitten made for SCA use, and they are the best protection we've yet
found. We use them for shinai, plastic wasters and steel, and even quarterstaff,
and they are brilliant.


Paul




>> This has been the subject of much discussion on the Schola Gladiatoria

>> forum. The consensus there is that Lacrosse gloves provide the best

>> protection, with the addition of thumb ends used in cricket.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> James

>>

>>

>> On 23 Nov 2009, at 02:00 (23/11), John Enzinas wrote:

>>

>>> Hey All,

>>> I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable

>> for

>>> Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.

>>>

>>> I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:

>>>

>>
http://www.performancearmour.com/Individual_Item_Pages/Fingergauntlets_type2.htm\
l

>>>

>>> but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated

>>> since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking

>> off

>>> with someone's money.

>>>

>>> Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?

>>>

>>> -j

>>>

>>>

>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>>>

>>>

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The only supplier I know of is
http://www.millichampandhall.co.uk/acatalog/Accessories.html but I bet there are
others.

They work well under any kind of gloves.


On 23 Nov 2009, at 02:13 (23/11), John Enzinas wrote:

> Thanks James,
>
> Where would one purchase the Thumb Ends?
>
> They do have the disadvantage of not being shiny though.
>
> --j
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:03 PM, James <james@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> John,
>>
>> This has been the subject of much discussion on the Schola Gladiatoria
>> forum. The consensus there is that Lacrosse gloves provide the best
>> protection, with the addition of thumb ends used in cricket.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> On 23 Nov 2009, at 02:00 (23/11), John Enzinas wrote:
>>
>>> Hey All,
>>> I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable
>> for
>>> Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.
>>>
>>> I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:
>>>
>>
http://www.performancearmour.com/Individual_Item_Pages/Fingergauntlets_type2.htm\
l
>>>
>>> but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated
>>> since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking
>> off
>>> with someone's money.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?
>>>
>>> -j
>>>
>>>
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those are really nice but I have gotten away with Lacross and Hocky gloves, and
they are a lot less pricey, though if you are intending to be sparing with sharp
swords go with the Gauntlets (Never recomend sparing with sharp swords by the
way)
 
Tim

It only hurts till the pain goes away!!!

--- On Sun, 11/22/09, John Enzinas <jenzinas@...> wrote:


From: John Enzinas <jenzinas@...>
Subject: [western-arts] looking for suggestions for hand protection?
To: western-arts@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 9:00 PM


 



Hey All,
I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable for
Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.

I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:
http://www.performa ncearmour. com/Individual_ Item_Pages/ Fingergauntlets_
type2.html

but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated
since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking off
with someone's money.

Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?

-j

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Thanks James,

Where would one purchase the Thumb Ends?

They do have the disadvantage of not being shiny though.

--j

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:03 PM, James <james@...> wrote:

>
>
> John,
>
> This has been the subject of much discussion on the Schola Gladiatoria
> forum. The consensus there is that Lacrosse gloves provide the best
> protection, with the addition of thumb ends used in cricket.
>
> Regards,
>
> James
>
>
> On 23 Nov 2009, at 02:00 (23/11), John Enzinas wrote:
>
> > Hey All,
> > I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable
> for
> > Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.
> >
> > I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:
> >
>
http://www.performancearmour.com/Individual_Item_Pages/Fingergauntlets_type2.htm\
l
> >
> > but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated
> > since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking
> off
> > with someone's money.
> >
> > Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?
> >
> > -j
> >
> >
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John,

This has been the subject of much discussion on the Schola Gladiatoria forum.
The consensus there is that Lacrosse gloves provide the best protection, with
the addition of thumb ends used in cricket.

Regards,

James


On 23 Nov 2009, at 02:00 (23/11), John Enzinas wrote:

> Hey All,
> I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable for
> Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.
>
> I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:
>
http://www.performancearmour.com/Individual_Item_Pages/Fingergauntlets_type2.htm\
l
>
> but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated
> since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking off
> with someone's money.
>
> Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?
>
> -j
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Hey All,
I'm looking for suggestions for hand protection that would be suitable for
Longsword both for metal swords and wooden and rattan wasters.

I really like the type 2 gauntlets from Performance Armour:
http://www.performancearmour.com/Individual_Item_Pages/Fingergauntlets_type2.htm\
l

but I could not find any reviews online, the website has not been updated
since 2007 and the only commentary I could find was about them walking off
with someone's money.

Anyone have any comments about them or suggestions for other gauntlets?

-j


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http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781409956709/The-Sentiment-of-the-Sword-Do\
do-Press

James
UK

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781406525526/The-Art-of-Fencing-or-The-Use\
-of-the-Small-Sword-Illustrated-Edition-Dodo-Press

James
UK

Hello all,

We are currently opening the registrations for the Symposium d'Escrime de Québec
2010 or Quebec City's Fencing Symposium 2010. The one day event will take place
in march 20. It is our second edition, and will no doubt be even better than
last time. We have 8 instructors coming from all over the province teaching
diverse workshops:

-Iaido
-Irish stick
-German longsword
-Sword and buckler
-Scottish baskethilt
-Long staff and pole weapons
-Dagger and wrestling
-Rapier
-Plus a two hour period of free exchange

Many of them (4 if I am not mistaken) are former students of Franck Cinato, one
of the top players of I.33 studies in Europe (not much known here but I heard he
deserves to be) and a serious contributor to HEMAC.

This year we'll be located in the heart of the fortified city, in a bicentenial
building with victorian decor. If you ever wanted to see Quebec City and meet
some new people having the same passion as you (as well as having a look to the
other side of the language barrier), this is the time. There might even be a
possibility of sleeping in the building for free, but I must confirm before.

And don't be afraid, even if it is mainly a French event, in a French city,
mostly everyone speaks good English (the building is actually the English
cultural Center) and you won't be left on your own.

For more info you can check the event's blog, I am finishing the whole
translation now, the essential should be there. www.seq2010.wordpress.com

Cheers,

Maxime Chouinard

Awesome Scotty! One day we will have to put together an Ohio team and
send it down there to compete.

Ken

On 11/19/09, Scotty <scottyweeks@...> wrote:
> Here is some footage from our event last weekend.They put up a few others as
> well. It was a good turn out with over 20 wrestlers and no broken bones this
> year.
>
> Scotty
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od67L5PsfTM
>
>
>
>

Here is some footage from our event last weekend.They put up a few others as
well. It was a good turn out with over 20 wrestlers and no broken bones this
year.

Scotty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od67L5PsfTM

I'm glad you liked the web site, and thank you for the thought on the
newsletter, Rick. I'm always doing updates on it, and that is something I will
look into, too.
 Steaphen Fick
Davenriche European Martial Artes School (DEMAS)
650 Nuttman Street, #108
Santa Clara, CA 95054
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    Posted by: "Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc" tutor2000@... Tutor2000
    Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:52 am ((PST))

Very nice site;

The only suggestion I would have would be a marketing one which would be to
offer a newsletter.

Rick
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From: steaphen fick <davenriche@...>
To: Steaphen Fick <davenriche@...>
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 8:40:33 AM
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Hello my friends,

i wanted to let you know that the school has a new web site. Our new domain can
be found at www.swordfightingschool.com. Please take a look at the site, and if
you have a link to the old web site please change it over to this new domain.

Please keep an eye on the site for up coming events, as there is always
something new happening.

Take care everyone,
Steaphen Fick
Davenriche European Martial Artes School (DEMAS)
650 Nuttman Street, #108
Santa Clara, CA 95054
408-776-6808 Message
408-857-0120 cell
408-776-8188 fax
www.swordfightingschool.com


     

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Very nice site;

The only suggestion I would have would be a marketing one which would be to
offer a newsletter.

Rick
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From: steaphen fick <davenriche@...>
To: Steaphen Fick <davenriche@...>
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 8:40:33 AM
Subject: [western-arts] (unknown)

Hello my friends,

i wanted to let you know that the school has a new web site. Our new domain can
be found at www.swordfightingschool.com. Please take a look at the site, and if
you have a link to the old web site please change it over to this new domain.

Please keep an eye on the site for up coming events, as there is always
something new happening.

Take care everyone,
  Steaphen Fick
Davenriche European Martial Artes School (DEMAS)
650 Nuttman Street, #108
Santa Clara, CA 95054
408-776-6808 Message
408-857-0120 cell
408-776-8188 fax
www.swordfightingschool.com




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Hello my friends,

i wanted to let you know that the school has a new web site. Our new domain can
be found at www.swordfightingschool.com. Please take a look at the site, and if
you have a link to the old web site please change it over to this new domain.

Please keep an eye on the site for up coming events, as there is always
something new happening.

Take care everyone, 
 Steaphen Fick
Davenriche European Martial Artes School (DEMAS)
650 Nuttman Street, #108
Santa Clara, CA 95054
408-776-6808 Message
408-857-0120 cell
408-776-8188 fax
www.swordfightingschool.com




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Dear All,

Following hugely successful past events, the Highland Challenge 2010 is
scheduled from Sunday 6th June through to Saturday 12th June, and open to all
who are up for it.

What is it about? -

An entire week of martial training, physical challenges and social sessions, all
in the glorious setting of the West Highlands of Scotland.
The challenge offers an opportunity to train hard, play hard, push yourself,
discover, experience and enjoy, all in the purest environment Nature has to
offer.
Moidart is a land rich in genuine Celtic cultural and combative legends. It
still provides one of the most historic, inspiring and challenging training
grounds available today.

This is the setting for the Highland Challenge.

The 2010 Challenge is all-inclusive, as course costs cover the following -

- Transport - Minibus to and from Edinburgh and around the various Highland
training grounds.
- Accommodation - All participants are based at Glenuig Inn, Moidart
(www.glenuig.com/) which serves as our base of operations for the week.
- Meals - Breakfast and lunches are included each day, as Highland air works up
a rare appetite! Evening meals are available from Glenuig Inns quality range of
local produce and cooking.
- Training - Six days of intense tuition in the traditional Highland weapons of
quarterstaff, backsword, dirk and more! (weapons are supplied), all given in
some of the most stunning locations, steeped in Scottish history and legend. All
tuition is given by Mo. Paul Macdonald of the Macdonald Academy of Arms.

Each day consists of a morning challenge (details of which are not revealed
until the day), a full afternoon of training at specific locations and
naturally, an evening session, all for six days and seven nights straight!

This is as authentic as it gets, as we train on original Jacobite training
grounds with traditional weapons and martial techniques.

It all adds up to one unforgettable adventure and experience.

The last Challenge saw participants arrive from throughout the UK, Norway,
Canada and the US.
Dates are confirmed and booking is now open. Please note that places are
strictly limited, so early booking is advised. Fortune Favours the Brave!

For further details, please contact Macdonald directly at
macdonaldacademy@... or on 0131 557 1510 (0044 131 557 1510 for int'l)

Yours Very Truly,

Paul Macdonald,
Macdonald Academy of Arms,
www.macdonaldarms.com

Check out http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=93326
for info. with images of past Challenge events!

On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 08:57 -0500, Ken Pfrenger wrote:
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> So what have you all been up to?

Had a new guy yesterday.  Started on the basics, 8 angles, attacks,
parries, simple movements.

Sent everyone home half an hour early because I'd neglected to "fall
back" my clock in the training area.  :P

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Hello my friends, 
Just a reminder, here is the information for the class coming up in November.
This month we will be looking at the use of the quarter staff as it was used in
the late medieval and renaissance periods. The basis for this course is
treatises from England and Italy. Some of the manuscripts that we will pull
information from are;
Ø  Joseph Swetnam (1617)
Ø  George Silver (1599)
Ø  Giacomo di Grassi (1570)
Ø  And spear techniques of Fiore dei Liberi (1409)
We will learn the guards of the staff, the way to transition from one side to
the other side whilst maintaining a defensive position of the staff, and the
offensive use of the staff.
While we will not be doing an exhaustive study of each of these manuscripts, we
will be able to look at the similarities and differences between the techniques
put forth in them.
This class is a sample four hour class that will show the student some of the
use of the quarterstaff in a martial use.
 
When: November 14, 2009
Time: 9:30am – 2:00pm
Where: 650 Nuttman Street, Ste. 109
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                     Santa Clara, CA  95054
Cost: $40.00
Equipment: Fencing Helmet, Gloves, Staff, Elbow Guard
If you do not have a staff, you can pick up a closet dowel at a hardware store
for very little money. A ¾ staff of approximately 5 – 6 feet will be the
weapon of the day.
 If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to call me to ask. I look
forward to seeing you at the class!
 Steaphen Fick
Davenriche European Martial Artes School (DEMAS)
650 Nuttman Street, #108
Santa Clara, CA 95054
408-776-6808 Message
408-857-0120 cell
408-776-8188 fax
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Saturday found me in Mechanicsville Maryland at Tim Anderson's
"Maryland Martial Arts". I gave a 5 hour seminar to their fight team
on leg locks, takedowns and takedowns into submissions from sambo. We
also worked some casting punches for brutal ground and pound. We also
touched a bit on savate since there was some interest in seeing just
what it was like. A very good time was had by all, I hope, and I look
forward to going back down in a few months to do it again.

Sundays session:
2 rds shadow boxing
2 rds boxing
1 rd floor GnP bag
2 rds footwork

We then broke out the longsword trainers and went over some basics and
a few plays of Durchlaufen...not something we are heavily focusing on
but a fun diversion from the constant punching and twisting of limbs.
It is still great training but the variety is welcome.

We ended the session with some more entrenching tool work. Basically
covering what we did last week and getting more comfortable with it.
We worked lopatka vs knife a bit more this time around, getting used
to intercepting the knife with the flat of the shovel rather than the
edge. The edge is definitely more deadly but the flat of the shovel
offers a much greater chance of successfully defending oneself against
the attack that IMO it is vastly
superior. I will have to try and get a few clips of this filmed to share.

So what have you all been up to?

Ken

Just Doug and I tonight.

Getting dark early now so no Singlestick outside.

But I just recently had a great training session out with Dwight (very
generous of him to accommodate me; I owe him a great amount of gratitude
for it) so I have brought home a lot of that good material.

Bowie Knife tonight.

Started working a new-and-updated footwork evasion and and
counter-attack drill based heavily on a combination of Tomiki Aikido's
"Unsoko" footmovment, fencing and destreza footwork, and bowie/big-knife
work.  Maybe sometime, if I get less lazy, I'll make some vid. of it.

I've updated it to worry less about parrying and counter-cutting and
replaced that with much more direct thrusting during/after evasion.

Worked that for 30 min or so then went straight to sparring "attacker vs
evader" style to functionalize and internalize the concepts of the
drill.

Then we moved into equal attack/defend "dueling" to push the concepts
deeper into the automatic responses.

After a break we moved on to what Dwight calls "Circular Releases."
This is a set of skills and concept based drills/practices based around
what happens when two knife fighters "come to grips," each capturing his
opponent's knife wrist with his empty hand.

This starts off with two basic "releases" with the knife and works up,
through a series of movements building on each other, to passing,
pulling, and evading along with sensitivity work.

Then we went into "practice to functionalize skills"
oppositional/cooperative work.

Sorry I haven't been posting training reports much.  Busy.  :-)

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

I have posted my report on Bob's seminar at
http://gallowglassacademy.blogspot.com

Allen


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Only Justin and I today...

2 rds shadow boxing
2 rds focused boxing sparring
1 rds heavy bag
1 rd GnP floor bag
1 rds focus gloves

Next up...grappling/sambo
We went without jackets today and had a major focus on getting the
toehold correct since I have some sort of mental block about it when
rolling. We also did a two foot sweeps as well as two leg hook
takedowns into kneebars.

Last up...e-tool or as the Russians call it 'lopatka' which is
infinitely more fun to say that shovel. We worked the lopatka against
some unarmed attacks, punches and kicks. We also worked some lopatka
vs knife and lopatka vs lopatka. Even with a mighty dull edge and then
taped I still got a cut on my hand. Nothing major but blood sells.

Ken