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Training Session 2/26/06 NEOHEMAS   Message List  
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Re: Training 2/26/06 NEOHEMAS 28/2 MobiusMMAPC

Hey Ken

--- In western-arts@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Pfrenger"
<kenpfrenger@...> wrote:
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> On 3/1/06, Stuart McDermid <s_j_mc@...> wrote:
> > --- In western-arts@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Pfrenger"
> > <kenpfrenger@> wrote:

>I really want to make good solid contact but there is the safety of
>the padd holder to consider as well. I find that if you double up
>on your hands, ie one pad behind the other and hold them slightly
>above you head on the ground(AAnd by above I mean further out than
>your head not right above) that you can withstand some decent but
>too crushing> of a blow.

Gotchya. I can see why you are doing this now.

>Also although we have not done this yet, out next step will be for
>the feeder to take the other guy down and feed him the pads from
>either a mounted or other advantageous position to get some work
>from the bottom in.

This is a *very* good idea. When everyone turns up and we start our
new cycle on striking, we will try this.

>We tried a variety of different ways to work it and it just seemed,
>as in Ralphs comment in his message that footwork was the key(As it
>is in many things)...there seems to sort of an offensive blindspot
>for me in reverse grip...or more better put, a way to move to
>hinder my attacks that was quickly picked up on. I am not saying it
>can't be done just giving our experience with it last session. I am
>sure we will work on it more and will see new things come to light
>as time goes by.

Movement is the key to all systems but with knives it is vital. A
few inches out of place in a sword fight means a hasty parry. The
same with a knife leads to a hit.

When fighting reverse vs forward, you need to be ready to make a
contrajiros type pivot in order to stop you being blindsided. Ralph
is right that there is a blind spot but you can cover it via body
sway and foot movement.
Cheers,
Stu.


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> ken
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Feelinga bit under the weather and only Justin braved the cold this week so we skipped over the grappling. Before anyone got here I did my warrior wellness and...
Ken Pfrenger
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Feb 27, 2006
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This is a great new site for upcoming fighters www.combatmax.com They are always looking for good input.... Check it out Matt ... Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to...
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Feb 27, 2006
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Hi Ken, ... The trouble with this is that nobody will do it outside class in my group. With the way we train, if you don't work on your joint health and ROM,...
Stuart McDermid
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... This is also true here. But i have made the decision to let them handle that themselves. if they do not want the benefits gained from outside work, then so...
Ken Pfrenger
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Mar 1, 2006
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Fascinating stuff chaps - thanks for sharing :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
James Marwood
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Mar 1, 2006
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... Oh now I get it. How do you deal with the fact that when on his back, the padholder cannot absorb shock very effectively? Just by going light? If so, why...
Stuart McDermid
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... I really want to make good solid contact but there is the safety of the padd holder to consider as well. I find that if you double up on your hands, ie one...
Ken Pfrenger
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Mar 2, 2006
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Hey Ken ... Gotchya. I can see why you are doing this now. ... This is a *very* good idea. When everyone turns up and we start our new cycle on striking, we...
Stuart McDermid
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stu, ken--i am a guro in filipino arts and teach western close combat, it has ben my exp. despite the elbow beening held laterally or horizontal--the reverse...
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Hi Ralph, ... This is very interesting indeed. You have my respect and I don't doubt for a minute that things happened for your group as you have described...
Stuart McDermid
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Mar 3, 2006
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stu, everything we do is hard to explain unless you are fighting with distance based on point--the true meaning of styers cold steel system. it is that ...
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Hi Ralph, As you know, I prefer point out for ranged sparring, and completely agree with your points below. But I believe there is one additional range where ...
Eric Coles
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eric, are you talking stuff like you see in the german manuals, then i agree, however that is somewhat different. i think that anyone that puts themselves in a...
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eric, by the way, i will be retiring in june! so yes, i will have time to do some knife sparring but most of all continue my rapier lessons under you! i will...
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Hi Ralph, Equal skill, of course - otherwise it isn't really a test. I think of trapping range as basically 1' to 2' body separation. It's a difficult range...
Eric Coles
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eric, in that range [ 1 to 2 inches] i probably would have to do some nasty unarmed stuff before getting a weapon out:) , but i agree in forward grip a great...
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