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Re: [Wado Forum] Taijiquan

That's a fairly bold statement Robert and I'm wondering if you can amplify
just how say: Uechiryu or Goju would complement Wado when the two
systems are diametrically opposed in character. I have to confess I am
not a big fan of cross training because I'm not convinced that wado
needs anything that may dilute its character when so many of its
practitioners are still trying to plumb its depths.
 
As for Shotokan, I'm surprised that you think Shotokan can add
anything to wado that will improve it when you consider Ohtsuka Snr
had already spent some considerable time with Funakoshi in the
early years before moving on to Motobu and Mabuni.
 
I'm not sure what grade a red belt is but I would think that regular-ish
training in wado for a year would be too early to consider introducing
any variation in the practice of wado lest it's more counterproductive
than complementary...
 
regards
 
Reg Kear
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Wado Forum] Taijiquan

Hi Reg (and All),

I have a fairly convoluted martial arts background (see my out of
date but soon to be updated webpage at
http://www.p-k-j.org/content/trainedin.html
and I have attended a few Wado sessions over the years... Last year I
started taking regular(ish) classes in Wado (once a week) and a
couple of months ago I graded to red belt (second belt at my club)...
So I have been exposed to Wado kata - but more importantly I would
suggest that Karate (Wado, Goju, Uechi Ryu, Shotokan - you name it)
has a different way of utilising the body to Tai Chi - again NOT
better or worse - just different.

I would also suggest that all the major styles of Karate also have...
"a different way of utilising the body to Tai Chi - again NOT better
or worse - just different." - So I feel that studying Tai Chi is a
worthwhile thing to do and is complimentary to Wado in the same way
that I would argue you could study Shotokan and that could be
complimentary too <PUTS ON FLAK JACKET>

All the best.

Robert.
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Robert Agar-Hutton
www.p-k-j.org



Wed May 7, 2008 3:03 pm

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Hi Reg (and All), I have a fairly convoluted martial arts background (see my out of date but soon to be updated webpage at ...
Robert Agar-Hutton
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May 7, 2008
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That's a fairly bold statement Robert and I'm wondering if you can amplify just how say: Uechiryu or Goju would complement Wado when the two systems are...
Reg Kear
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May 7, 2008
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Hi Reg (and All), ... That's me 'Bold' - OK Good Looking and Bold - OK Intelligent, Good Looking and Bold.... (Could go on but don't want to appear big headed)...
Robert Agar-Hutton
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I'm going to disagree on much of this. As Reg noted it might be a bit early in your Wado career to offer much constructive criticism to the art. Essentially...
tenkhan1600
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May 7, 2008
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Hi, ... I wasn't saying that I was aware of any 'holes' just that simply EVERY martial art (including Wado) has holes. ... Sorry but I think that you misread...
Robert Agar-Hutton
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Robert, Hope I did not sound harsh. Limits of the web and all that. Holes as art: Japanese art has, as you likely know, a principle of use of space and...
tenkhan1600
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May 7, 2008
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Hi All, Since I have a fairly decent background in the various styles (Wado Ryu, Uechi Ryu , & Tai Chi) discussed, I'd like to share my views on this cross...
Mike
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May 12, 2008
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Hi guys, For some time now I have been following the new thread, which woke up the forum again. What is surprising to me is, why should anyone think of...
jaron ben yochanan
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May 12, 2008
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Jaron, You should thank your teacher for that post. You have a good school....
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He has a general idea how much I thank him and owe him. Thank you yours Jaron --- On Tue, 5/13/08, tenkhan1600 <rgoad@...> wrote: From: tenkhan1600...
jaron ben yochanan
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<What is surprising to me is, why should anyone think of anything else to complement his style and in our case, our Wado.> Why should anyone think of it as a...
kodia1963
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... one was certainly never ... in the numerous wado ... You asked for it...you've got it...lol Next time we will do kk10 on that floor.......
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oi weh --- On Wed, 5/14/08, bnashrei <bnashrei@...> wrote: From: bnashrei <bnashrei@...> Subject: [Wado Forum] Re: Taijiquan To:...
jaron ben yochanan
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... To be on the safe side, I'll ask my 6 year old son to teach me some of his judo breakfalls.... ;-) Igor...
Igor Asselbergs
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May 14, 2008
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Hi All, Jaron said: "What is surprising to me is, why should anyone think of anything else to complement his style and in our case, our Wado." Why ever not? ...
Robert Agar-Hutton
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Hi Rob, "What is surprising to me is, why should anyone think of anything else to complement his style and in our case, our Wado." Why ever not? Because if you...
jaron ben yochanan
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May 13, 2008
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Hello dear fraternity, An interesting point seems to have touched here, as the stated problem is actually following: "can I integrate principles of so called...
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May 16, 2008
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Ah Richard, there's no doubt in my mind that the wado in various dojo can test one's credulity - which may well stem from that different perspective you speak...
Reg Kear
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May 8, 2008
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Reg, Different perspective can be taken as a license to wreck havoc if it is not an educated perspective. For example, you could have two very legitimate...
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Hi Robert, Ah yes, thank you for sharing, and you're absolutely right wado does not teach 'firearms skills' but then it doesn't teach Tank or Submarine warfare...
Reg Kear
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Hi Robert Doing the Wado Katas slowly, I know is not Tai Chi but it does have a calming effect after training, but there is always the traditional warm down,a...
steve greenwood
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May 11, 2008
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Hi Richard, My old sensei had a simple answer to this type of lopsided reasoning that suggests 'a need' for something extraneous to 'complement' wado because ...
Reg Kear
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May 14, 2008
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Hi all, Good to see discussion opening out again. Re. the subject in question: It always prompts a smile from me when someone comes out with the old chestnut ...
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May 14, 2008
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And another thing, since this horse is remaining so very still... I will not claim any expertise in any martial arts but I will say that I have had the honour...
tenkhan1600
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... One needs only to experience one or two throws by Toby Threadgill of SYR, to become painfully aware of the historical importance of breakfall in Wado....
Igor Asselbergs
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May 14, 2008
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... Depends on how you are using the word curriculum. If you mean a written down list of what things you will study as part of kyu or dan gradings then I ...
Gordon Fong
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May 14, 2008
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... I agree, it depends who is out front of the class. It's funny I was thinking about this last night. I currently have a bunch of guys training with me who...
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Igor, I don't know why the teaching of Ukemi seems to have gone missing with some Wado groups. It may be as has been said due to the fact that competitions use...
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Hi Igor, It is not just of 'historical importance' Igor, neither is it hot of the press or flavour of the month, nage waza / ukemi waza is very much part of...
Reg Kear
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Hi Igor, That was something I also never quit understood in Holland. I started out with jiu jitsu and after a year or so added karate and judo to my training....
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