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Re: [Wado Forum] Kumite Gata

It is not that nobody wants to talk about it. For me
personally hadn't had the time yet to read the article
thoroughly.
But still looking it over left me that I want to
purchase the books it was dealing with, to see where
Mr. Klemola came up with his enlightments.
Ohtsuka sensei stated a number of times that Naihanchi
was his favorit and there is more in the kata. So
that's very interesting.

So what were the parts you had a hard time with,
Tommi?

Jaron
Wado Ryu karate Israel

--- Tim Shaw <tim.shaw@...> wrote:
> Tommi wrote:
> >I have spent quite a long time reading and thinking
> mr. Klemola's
> >article. What he offers in his article is very
> systematic method to
> >practice the essence of wado: 3 timings, taisabaki,
> irimi, nagashi.
>
> >There are some parts which can be hard to accept,
> or at least I have
> >put some question marks on some arguments, but this
> article is worth
> >reading.
>
> >Any comments?
>
> Seems nobody wants to talk about this - a pity
> really.
> Mr Klemola obviously put a lot of work in on the
> section of this article made available to us. I
> would really be interested in seeing the whole
> article and possibly other articles that may have
> been translated into English. Any chance of someone
> sending it to me?
>
> I really thought we'd done the subject of kumite
> gata to death in previous postings, but this just
> goes to prove that there's always a little more that
> can be added.
>
> I suppose to anyone who has not come across the
> kumite gata this gives a little more info.
> particularly regarding the structure and logic of
> these techniques. Like I said, it's a well written
> article, but it left me wanting a little bit more,
> maybe that's in the rest of the article? Not sure
> about his accreditation for the Ippon Gumites. And
> all that Erle Montaigue stuff at the beginning was a
> bit strange - but probably that's because the
> section is taken away from its context.
>
> Tommi, I'd be interested in which parts you found
> hard to accept.
>
> Tim Shaw
> Essex
> UK
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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... Seems nobody wants to talk about this - a pity really. Mr Klemola obviously put a lot of work in on the section of this article made available to us. I...
Tim Shaw
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It is not that nobody wants to talk about it. For me personally hadn't had the time yet to read the article thoroughly. But still looking it over left me that...
jaron ben yochanan
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Feb 12, 2004
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We just finished our bi-annual Shiomitsu Sensei Hanshi Seminar here in Toronto, Canada. As usual he spent a whole session on Naihanchi kata. It is incredible...
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Feb 12, 2004
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Next Question from me: What is go-no-sen? I think, Go-no-Sen means: First i defend me by avoid the attack or go out of attackline (by Tai Sabaki), and then (in...
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... http://www.geocities.com/keikoden/principles.htm Ok, Go no Sen means not to wait with the counter attack, but the counter attack is executed, before, or...
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... Is this the same footage as in "Wado's Otsuka"? BTW: The name is not Wado Ryu Jujutsu Kempo the correct name (type it in the search) is Wado Ryu Jujutsu...
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"I would really be interested in seeing the whole article and possibly other articles that may have been translated into English. Any chance of someone sending...
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Hi Sorry about the delay of my answer. I'm quite busy with my daily job. Mr Klemola says that there is nothing he has created himself and Ohtsuka's Kumite Gata...
Tommi Kutilainen
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Feb 12, 2004
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... I can say that Shiomitsu Sensei has gone through this in one or two of his courses here in the UK. He did mention the systemisation of the jodan, chudan...
Gordon Fong
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Feb 20, 2004
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Hi Tommi, ... Sorry, my English is very bad. But i try to answer. When Shiomitsu Sensei in 2002 was here (in Switzerland!), she told the same about the Kumite...
Alexander Moshe
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Alex, I agree on you when you ask why isn't it on the sallybus. What i know of kumite gate i see wonderfull technics. Good practice in timing. But isnt it the...
Arnold Keizer
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... is no ... Sensei had ... Imai ... use the ... Hi Alex, I think you've raised an interesting question and I know the subject has been touched on a little in...
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Does anyone know where can this Budokan Video be found with the 36 kumite? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8:...
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... kumite? ... If your asking after the video I referred to, you can obtain it through www.buyubooks.com and its called Wado Ryu Jujutsu Kempo. BP...
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Mar 5, 2004
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Is this tape available in PAL european format? thanks, francis philippe, ... kumite? ... If your asking after the video I referred to, you can obtain it ...
Wado Ryu
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Mar 6, 2004
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Hi Wadoka ... hm, Kumite Gata was always changing ... possible there was 36 Kumite Gata in the 1940's, but not the same like today? Otsuka I. has developed and...
Alexander Moshe
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Mar 5, 2004
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Hi Tyrone... Training with George Grimes last time he was in Australia he also said similar things about Kumite Gata and as we practised a little it entered my...
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Hi you all, First I want to thank mr. Threadgill for his reply. Good, respectful conversation should and must be a basic skill of us all. I hope you will ad...
Arnold Keizer
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Nov 9, 2004
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Arnold, great questions, where did the syllabus go? It's obvious that Ohtsuka sensei wanted Wado to develop on the lines of Su Ha Ri, which are core principles...
ROBERT CAMPBELL
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Nov 9, 2004
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I think of techniques special for women or police ... Gata ... Arnold, If you look at Jiro Otsuka's video, he illustrates the women's self defense techniques....
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Nov 9, 2004
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The threat of drinking pints with you in Florida is daunting. Is it true? You are of course very welcome. But I doubt you will go home feeling very well (and...
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Hi Tyrone, If you don't mind please email me details of the 22 kumite gata you practise, they may indeed contain those that I know + variations however if they...
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Nov 10, 2004
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Hello, Jap. I am Mike Spain. I live in Chiang Mai, Thailand. Would you mind emailing your kumite gata explanations to me also? nippon_kokusai_karate@... ...
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APOLOGIES!!!!!! hello JAB..... It really was a mistake.... Sorry... Anyway, would you be able to email your descriptions of gumite? And I will look closer at...
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Hi Jap... Oops, Jab, It would be pointless to email details of Kumite Gata. It is impossible to learn anything from typed words. I can't claim to 'know' the...
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Hi, In case someone is interested, below there is a link to demovideoclips where our instructor Timo Klemola practises a one version of kumite gata training...
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Nov 11, 2004
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The trouble with learning from video is that it is a moment frozen in time. The old video of Ohtsuka sensei and his son is more a demonstration than a...
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Nov 11, 2004
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Tyrone, I don't know if it's because I recently developed a hitherto unknown tolerance (quite a high one actually) for Guinness, but I'm solidly in agreement...
ROBERT CAMPBELL
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Nov 12, 2004
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Hey Rob, Aye, its the Guinness talkin' to be sure (LOL). Yes, we make a lot of assumptions based on how people look, how techniques look. I trained for Shiai...
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