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Re: [Wado Forum] Re: Grades

B"H

Dear Ray,

It is not amazing at all to be a "black belt" if you train hard and
seriously but if you fail for a Pinan Kata on Sho-dan level, then it would
indeed be amazing to be a "black belt" !

Dovid Pfeiff
Wado Ryu Israel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Lamonde" <raylamonde@...>
To: <wadokarate@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:56 PM
Subject: [Wado Forum] Re: Grades


> I want to know what some of you think about grading. I took my shodan
> test and failed it last year and now I will have to take it again son. I
> think that it is amazng to be a black belt and that is why I am dong it
but
> I dont think that it was really fair that I failed the first time. I
think
> that you should get your level depending on how good you are at karate
> especially fighting and not on wether you pass a test or not. Like I had
to
> do pinan yondan and I mixed it up
> with some other katas and so it was a whole lot longer than it is
> supposed to be but I think that the way that I did it was even in some
ways
> better because it was longer and had more stuff in it and so I shouldn't
> have been given such a hard time about it. There are certain people in my
> dojo that look really good when they are doing katas but they are not as
> good at karate as I am and so I dont think that it is fair.
>
> "Dont concentrate on teh finger or you will miss all the heavenly
> glory." Bruce Lee.
>
> Ray Lamonde
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I want to know what some of you think about grading. I took my shodan test and failed it last year and now I will have to take it again son. I think that it...
Ray Lamonde
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Jan 16, 2003
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I am afraid that if you failed Pinan Yodan as part of Shodan grade. You deserved to fail on that occasion. Yes it is very important to be good at fighting but...
Steve 'DJ' Reed
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Jan 16, 2003
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Ray, fighting is a benefit of training karate. To be a Sho-dan, you should show dedication to your training. That dedication involves practicing all of the...
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Jan 16, 2003
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B"H Dear Ray, It is not amazing at all to be a "black belt" if you train hard and seriously but if you fail for a Pinan Kata on Sho-dan level, then it would ...
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Ray, it's sounds like your ego got in the way. To earn a BlackBelt is a great accomplishment but it stands for more than you are seeing. A Blackbelt is a...
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Jan 17, 2003
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Whilst I understand what you are saying, I think you have missed the point of the grading. It is all about how you perform under pressure, and on the day you...
Brian Turner
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Jan 17, 2003
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Okay, I gotta ask - particularly to everyone who has responded to Ray's post: have any of you ever seen anyone granted a grade, kyu or dan, who did not achieve...
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... an exam ... Hi, Where are you trying to go with this? I see 'bait' written all over your question...:-) This might turn out to be fun... Bob...
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Yes, Sally, I have seen kids passed who did not meet the standards you would normally expect a child of their age to meet to achieve their belt grade. BUT...
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I have seen people pass that I would not have passed. It is not mine to question the judgement or motivation of my seniors, so I don't, and I won't. I will say...
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I'm sure you make a far better karate-ka than I ever will, David. I seldom have issues with questioning someone's judgment or motivation. No, it was not my...
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Sally wrote: By the way, is it okay to relax standards for children or people who are differently abled?<< I'd say the standards don't need to be relaxed,...
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... to laugh when I see 6 year olds wearing black belts.< First, no one below the age of 10 can even test for black belt in our school. There is only one who...
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This is the way the dan grade system works in the EKGB the official governing body for Karate in the UK. Juniors can grade to shodan before they are 16 but are...
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... Steve, What are the junior blackbelts required to do to be reassessed at 16? Also what do you do with the jr. black belts before that time? Ours continue...
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Often as you know kids drop out and come back to karate and if they have already passed shodan say at 11 then quit for 4 years you and I both know they will...
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Ray, Glad to hear that you stuck with it in order to test again. Grading sometimes gets overly imoportant to the Karateka because they want to earn belts...
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Ray, One of the things people expect of a black belt is that they know what they are talking about - and black belts are the ones who teach the lower grades ...
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I know I have replied to this posting once, but I feel I have something to add to my earlier message. I myself failed Shodan on the first attempt and even...
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... kata are changed then you lose the best bit of karate.< ... I too found Iain Abernethy's book interesting. I liked his grappling ideas and found them to be...
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