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Re: [Wado Forum] Stance in Pin An Yon Dan

Hi Maicon
 
I have always seen this as a change to gyakazuki stance on the second punch. The reason for this is that unless the hips are opened up by the slight foot shift then the second punch cannot reach its target with correct penetration. If you try these two punches against a bag you will see what I mean. If anything, the second punch would naturally have to travel slightly further as the target is likely to move backwards after the first punch.
 
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David
 
----- Original Message -----
From: kiikuukai
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:31 AM
Subject: [Wado Forum] Stance in Pin An Yon Dan

Hello, my friends.
I'm from ABKW - Brazilian Wado-Kai.
I'm sorry for my bad English...
But I have a doubt about the stance in Pin An Yon Dan.
After the turn from Uraken in Gyaku Neko Ashi, the stance for Soto Uke is Shomen Neko Ashi. But after the Mae Geri, Jun Zuki and Gyaku Zuki I have to keep in Jun Zuki Dachi, Gyaku Zuki Dachi or change the stance from Jun Zuki Dachi to Gyaku Zuki Dachi ?
Here we keep Jun Zuki Dachi for the two punches (Jun Zuki and Gyaku Zuki).
Thanks a lot.
Maicon Nonoyama



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Personally, I would say that the foot position doesn't change through the transition of technique from Junzuki to Gyakuzuki. Gary ...
GARY NEEDHAM
garywado
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9:26 pm

Hi Maicon I think we have been down this road before. I believe this technique is not viewed as two separate punches but a double punch and as such the stance...
Eddie Mc Connell
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9:30 pm

Hi Maicon Going by Shingo Oghamis' book on wado kata. They are two seperate moves one Jun Zuki in Jun Zuki stance and one Gyaku Zuki in Gyaku Zuki stance....
daveshephard1379
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11:44 am

Hi Maicon I have always seen this as a change to gyakazuki stance on the second punch. The reason for this is that unless the hips are opened up by the slight...
David
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... Hi, Personally I have always been taught to change from junzuki position to gyakuzuki position, with the appropriate change in foot position. I have never ...
tim.shaw@...
timshaw2002
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8:32 am

Hi Tim Here's one guy that doesn't make that adjustment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtiYXJcIW1k Reg Kear San no Ya. ... From: tim.shaw@... To:...
Reg Kear
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9:01 am

... Hi Reg, Oops trumped by the man himself. But, you know as well as I do that there are a lot of things in that piece of film that he doesn't do (and that he...
tim.shaw@...
timshaw2002
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10:52 am

Here's Suzuki sensei Tim. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2A_bt3w6MA Reg Kear San no Ya...
reg_kear
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12:15 pm

More puzzled than ever now. I have it written down from a training session I did with him at the Sobell Centre in 1984. Funny, just watching that, on the...
tim.shaw@...
timshaw2002
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1:48 pm

Hi,   As said before that Ohgami sensei's book that Wadokai standarized it to Gyaku zuki dachi. I checked also in Ohtsuka sensei's book and he writes as he...
jaron ben yochanan
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2:10 pm

Jaron, I've never done it that way. This is Pinan so I guess for beginners it is ok to go from junzuki to gyakuzuki dachi and sometimes I teach beginners to do...
bnashrei
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4:23 am

You got me thinking now. This isn't a wadoryu vs wadokai thing. This is advanced vs wherever you happen to be in your path kind of thing. That is what makes...
bnashrei
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This is what happens when I work too many long hours in a row and I don't write down well thought out responses. First of all I have no business trying to...
bnashrei
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3:17 pm

I saw that as well. Maybe it is a case of desired body movement / position driving the foot movement - the cutting in of the hip at the gyakuzuki point? Gary ...
GARY NEEDHAM
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No, it's not your imagination Tim. Reg Kear San no Ya www.sannoya.com...
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... Hi Maicon Going by Shingo Ohgamis' book on Wado Kata. They are two moves and should be performed as such i.e jun Zuki in jun Zuki stance and Gyaku Zuki in...
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