--- In wadokarate@yahoogroups.com, "melrose1587456" <melrose1587456@...> wrote:

> Mr Threadgill showed us some really interesting 2 man drills/kata/gata that I
hadn't seen before during a 2 day seminar in Taunton a few years back (maybe
2005????) that I was most fortunate to attend. I believe that these were
performed by Ohtsuka to teach kuzushi - are these kumite gata/urawaza the same
thing? Whilst my question asking courage is still well and truly plucked, is
there a difference between a "gata" and a "kata" or is it simply 2 ways to
translate the same word?
>

Hello,

For clarification.......

The kata I demonstrated in Taunton were from the SYR kuzushi no kata. As far as
I know Ohtsuka never performed them in their original form. However, these SYR
kata were obviously the inspiration for some of Ohtsuka's 36 kumite gata. The
similarity is plainly obvious.

Toby Threadgill