GPL froze mid race after a spin at the hairpin, so unfortunately I had
to give it up :( Excellent battle Doc! Hope you get your well deserved win.

Marko

Turn off specular highlights and dynamic lighting.  This works especially well
with OpenGL on nVidia cards, but my experience with OGL on my old ATI card
wasn't good.  There's still improvement with these things turned off in
Direct3D, but not nearly as much in my experience.  Also, turn mirrors down to
"cars only," and disable pribluda if you use it.  If you've already done all of
that, not sure what else to suggest -- this track is hard on a lot of machines,
though I'm a bit surprised its hard on yours.

   Doc


cliffordmould <vrocf2@...> wrote:
           I can't make it either as I can't get Montj to run smoothly for some
reason. I'm sure I had it running under 65s a while back but its
just not smooth even using lo res install.

Also tried 800x600 and even there its not brill and of course looks
terrible on a large screen.

iMac with ATI 2600HD Pro card 256m (2.8Ghz dual core)
Running XP home

Cliff
--- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Cornelison
<drcornelison@...> wrote:
>
> Bummer. Hope to see you soon!
>
> Doc
>
>
> John Phillips <jona.phillips@...> wrote:
> --- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
> >
> > Reminder from: vroc-f2 Yahoo! Group
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vroc-f2/cal
> >
> > Montjuich
> > Saturday February 2, 2008
> > 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm
>
> At the moment Doc, looks like I will be unable to make it:(
>
> Dad
>
>
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I can't make it either as I can't get Montj to run smoothly for some
reason.  I'm sure I had it running under 65s a while back but its
just not smooth even using lo res install.

Also tried 800x600 and even there its not brill and of course looks
terrible on a large screen.

iMac with ATI 2600HD Pro card  256m  (2.8Ghz dual core)
Running XP home

Cliff
--- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Cornelison
<drcornelison@...> wrote:
>
> Bummer.   Hope to see you soon!
>
>   Doc
>
>
> John Phillips <jona.phillips@...> wrote:
>           --- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
> >
> > Reminder from: vroc-f2 Yahoo! Group
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vroc-f2/cal
> >
> > Montjuich
> > Saturday February 2, 2008
> > 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm
>
> At the moment Doc, looks like I will be unable to make it:(
>
> Dad
>
>
>
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Bummer.   Hope to see you soon!

   Doc


John Phillips <jona.phillips@...> wrote:
           --- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Reminder from: vroc-f2 Yahoo! Group
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vroc-f2/cal
>
> Montjuich
> Saturday February 2, 2008
> 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm

At the moment Doc, looks like I will be unable to make it:(

Dad






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--- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Reminder from: vroc-f2 Yahoo! Group
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vroc-f2/cal
>
> Montjuich
> Saturday February 2, 2008
> 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm

At the moment Doc, looks like I will be unable to make it:(

Dad

Hey Marko-

Good to hear you're still around. Yeah, not a fan of the new-fangled
"wings" (wings belong in the air!), but I've kinda come to the
realization that I just don't like rfactor that much. Hehe maybe it's
because all the cars have wings :)

Maybe, like racing, I should learn to love wings with GPL. How's
turnout these days?

-Jack

--- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, Marko Räsänen <marko.rasanen@...> wrote:
>
> John Phillips wrote:
> >
> > Hallo Jack:)
> > Am still here(just), though not as quick as I used to be, be great to
> > have you race with us.
> >
> > "We're still running 69F2's, GPL's "undiscovered" gem."
> > Love that Doc .LOL
> >
>
> I'm here as well. Too bad you don't like the 69's that much, or was
that
> a performance issue with your computer?
>
> Sad to say I'll have to miss Adelaide next weekend as I'll be out of
> town. I have previously posted a Mclaren setup into Yahoo site, which
> IIRC I wasn't completely satisfied with. Will have to see if I can
> improve it before the weekend.
>
> Marko
>

Hey Dad,

We all know what "not as quick as I used to be" means. You've been
saying that for years, you know, over your shoulder as you blow by. ;)

Wings, eh? Maybe :)

-Jack

--- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, "John Phillips" <jona.phillips@...> wrote:
>
> --- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Cornelison <drcornelison@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Jack -- long time, no see!
> >
> >   We're still running 69F2's, GPL's "undiscovered" gem.  Saturdays,
> 9 eastern, 1400 GMT.  Come on back!
> >
> >   Doc.
>
> Hallo Jack:)
> Am still here(just), though not as quick as I used to be, be great to
> have you race with us.
>
> "We're still running 69F2's, GPL's "undiscovered" gem."
> Love that Doc .LOL
>
> Dad
>

--- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Cornelison <drcornelison@...>
wrote:
>
> Heh, I've tried to get the word out, but sometimes I feel like that
nutty preacher with the loudspeaker standing on the busy streetcorner
where everyone walks by, ignoring him.
>
>   So for the time being, it seems it will remain "our little
secret."  ;^)
>
>   Doc
>
>
> John Phillips <jona.phillips@...> wrote:
>
>
> "We're still running 69F2's, GPL's "undiscovered" gem."
> Love that Doc .LOL
>
> Dad

>Hey guys!
Over at NAGPL we race 69ats & 69bts too!!! Tuesday nights at 9PM(est)
are regular races & Saturday nights at 9PM(est) fun & practice night.
Give Bob a holler if you'd like to join us too. The more, the merrier!!!!
We just started a new season. They are great for good close racing :)
Hope to make more races with you soon.

Rich(Ratchet)

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Heh, I've tried to get the word out, but sometimes I feel like that nutty
preacher with the loudspeaker standing on the busy streetcorner where everyone
walks by, ignoring him.

   So for the time being, it seems it will remain "our little secret."  ;^)

   Doc


John Phillips <jona.phillips@...> wrote:


"We're still running 69F2's, GPL's "undiscovered" gem."
Love that Doc .LOL

Dad


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John Phillips wrote:
>
> Hallo Jack:)
> Am still here(just), though not as quick as I used to be, be great to
> have you race with us.
>
> "We're still running 69F2's, GPL's "undiscovered" gem."
> Love that Doc .LOL
>

I'm here as well. Too bad you don't like the 69's that much, or was that
a performance issue with your computer?

Sad to say I'll have to miss Adelaide next weekend as I'll be out of
town. I have previously posted a Mclaren setup into Yahoo site, which
IIRC I wasn't completely satisfied with. Will have to see if I can
improve it before the weekend.

Marko

--- In vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com, Michael Cornelison <drcornelison@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi, Jack -- long time, no see!
>
>   We're still running 69F2's, GPL's "undiscovered" gem.  Saturdays,
9 eastern, 1400 GMT.  Come on back!
>
>   Doc.

Hallo Jack:)
Am still here(just), though not as quick as I used to be, be great to
have you race with us.

"We're still running 69F2's, GPL's "undiscovered" gem."
Love that Doc .LOL

Dad

Hi, Jack -- long time, no see!

   We're still running 69F2's, GPL's "undiscovered" gem.  Saturdays, 9 eastern,
1400 GMT.  Come on back!

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Hey guys-

I have a crazy schedule, but I'm curious what you guys are running
these days? The info page says 65F1/67F2, but I remember you were
running 69's last time I checked.

I hope all is well,
Jack

Try this link:
   http://jrpearson.homestead.com/AdelaideDownloads.html


cliffordmould <vrocf2@...> wrote:
           Hi all,
I cant download the adelaide track as the links to the zip files
don't seem to work. Anyone have one saved?

ta
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Hi all,
    I cant download the adelaide track as the links to the zip files
don't seem to work.  Anyone have one saved?

ta
Cliff

Think have hit my limit here, have done 4.16's in BRM, Ferrari and
McLaren, just been unable to go any quicker. Think my age is beginning
to tell at last:)

Dad

LOL I was in the BRM on Saturday!
Just so you all know I have a small practice server on VROC. I shall be
running Road67. I will try and have it up all day Friday.
Let me know if you have connection issues and I'll do my best to solve them.
Ronnie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marko Räsänen" <marko.rasanen@...>
To: <vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 00:09
Subject: Re: [VROC-F2] Re: New file uploaded to vroc-f2


> Hi Ronnie,
>
> I'll try to find a slower car for next Saturday. Mclaren possibly?
> Probably not L63 though, because it's sooo incompetitive on the
> straight. I don't think I've ever seen you race with a BRM. You should
> give it a try, as it's a great car!
>
> Marko
>
> On Jan 14, 2008 5:55 AM, Ronnie <darts180@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> WOW.........I'm NOT gonna be in a Lotus63(4:20.27) with Marko doing 12's
>> to
>>  13's. Nice lap time Marko!
>>  I'll try and keep up, in what I'm not sure just yet.
>>  Ronnie
>>
>>
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>>  To: <vroc-f2@yahoogroups.com>
>>  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 04:17
>>  Subject: [VROC-F2] Re: New file uploaded to vroc-f2
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>>  >> File : /69 F2 /__Put replays here__/MR_Road67_BRMF2_41254.zip
>>  >> Uploaded by : marko_k_rasanen <marko.rasanen@...>
>>  >> Description : Replay for Road67
>>  >
>>  > Thx marko, only have to find another 6secs.LOL
>>  >
>>  > Dad
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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:22
Subject: Re: [VROC-F2] Re: New file uploaded to vroc-f2


On Jan 14, 2008 10:09 AM, Marko Räsänen <marko.rasanen@...> wrote:

> I'll try to find a slower car for next Saturday. Mclaren possibly?

That didn't work as planned. Mclaren seems to be faster here than BRM.
Although I did opt for stiffer springs and arbs, and as a result the
car seems to handle better in the banked sections, and generally
accelerate better through the bits with weird track camber changes.
BRM would probably benefit from stiffer suspension as well, but I
think I'm done with BRM at the moment. Ah well, I guess I hear L63
calling...

Marko


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On Jan 14, 2008 10:09 AM, Marko Räsänen <marko.rasanen@...> wrote:

> I'll try to find a slower car for next Saturday. Mclaren possibly?

That didn't work as planned. Mclaren seems to be faster here than BRM.
Although I did opt for stiffer springs and arbs, and as a result the
car seems to handle better in the banked sections, and generally
accelerate better through the bits with weird track camber changes.
BRM would probably benefit from stiffer suspension as well, but I
think I'm done with BRM at the moment. Ah well, I guess I hear L63
calling...

Marko

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>  >
> Just watched your Road67 replay, don't know how you brake so late
> without losing it. No senior moments there.LOL
>
> Dad

Could be a benefit of having to walk/ride/drive on icy surfaces for few
months every year? Makes one adept at utilising all the grip there is :)