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[U.S. Open Cup] Re: Fwd: What happened to the magic?


Oneonta. Oneida is up there, too, I believe, but the Hall of Fame is
in Oneonta.

And if it wasn't so hard to get to, I'd agree. If the Soccer Hall of
Fame was in St.Louis or something, I'd be all about having it there
permanently. If they could combine it with the Hall of Fame inductions
and make it all one big weekend, I think it would be great.

As for the FA Cup, I don't think there's a magic wand that can be
waved so that it's instantly returned to its past glory. Times change,
people change and things change. I think the free market has decided
that other things are more important - the thought of having the FA
Cup Final midweek? Man, you know things have changed if that's being
considered.

I think it'll help once they get the new Wembley built. When the hell
is that going to be done, anyway?

--- In usopen@yahoogroups.com, Martin Vernon <lightning86@y...> wrote:
> Kenn - I agree with your sentiment about the replays. I am one who
tends to agree that it is not
> always that much better in the past. I guess that the main reason
for posting this is just that
> it is a complaint about the FA Cup and I have seen suggestions for
improving the state of the USOC
> (playing the final in a specific location--Oneida, NY and not have
midweek games) and complaints
> (MLS sides are not playing their top players). I do not think that
the suggestion that the games
> be other than midweek is possible; however, playing in a traditional
place like the US Soccer Hall
> of Fame, Oneida, NY and having the top players playing seems doable.
>
> I personnally like the idea of having the final replace or in
conjunction with the MLS All Star
> game.
>
> Vern*
>
> --- Kenn Tomasch <kt@k...> wrote:
>
> >
> > From the article:
> >
> > "Thirdly, the ending of semifinal and final replays and deciding ties
> > on penalty kicks just saps the last of the drama out of the
> > tournament. Who can forget the marathon replays between the likes of
> > Arsenal, Liverpool and United in the 70s and 80s let alone the '99
> > match between the Red Devils and the Gunners. This game contained
> > everything that made the FA Cup the magical, storied competition
it was."
> >
> > Yeah, and why did they ever get rid of laces on the ball and heavy
> > woolen shirts? Who can forget when there were no substitutions
allowed?
> >
> > Heaven forbid we not milk the customers out of money for replay after
> > replay after replay.
> >
> > But everything was always much better back in the day, no matter what
> > sport you're talking about. Sheesh.
> >
> > --- In usopen@yahoogroups.com, "brio_oops_i_mean_hps"
> > <lightning86@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I saw this and thought it may be interesting to forward it to this
> > > list to see the reaction.
> > >
> > > --- In US Open Cup, InWoodbridge> wrote:
> > > What happened to the magical FA Cup?
> > > Nick Webster/ Fox Soccer Channel
> > >
> > > Now the Cup is nothing more than a distraction to the elite that is
> > > the Premier League. The explanation for the oldest knockout
> > > competition in the world losing its luster is incredibly simple and
> > > the English Football Association is solely to blame. Firstly, the
> > > move from its traditional home, Wembley, to the Millennium
Stadium in
> > > Wales was nothing less than sacrilege. No more Twin Towers, Wembley
> > > Way and you've got to schlep to Cardiff instead of a day out in the
> > > Capital. Yes, Wembley did need to be rebuilt but for it to take
> > > almost six years, well that's simply unacceptable.
> > >
> > > More --> http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/3395554
> > >
> > > I am not sure if any of you have read this on the Fox Soccer
Channel
> > > website. It was an interesting read considering that this incluldes
> > > some of the same issues that many of us have stated about the USOC
> > > (not playing the top players, final not in a traditional location,
> > > midweek games). Is it possible that these type of competions are
not
> > > that popular with the public?
> > >
> > > For the newer memebers of the list, the FA Cup is the cup
competition
> > > that was the model for Sir. Thomas Dewar's vision for what has
become
> > > known as the U.S. Open Cup.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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I agree. Good for Chivas. Use a Belgian name, American VP, Dutch coach, Mexican, US and Intl players. I take back the negative comments I made about Chivas ...
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I saw this and thought it may be interesting to forward it to this list to see the reaction. ... What happened to the magical FA Cup? Nick Webster/ Fox Soccer...
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From the article: "Thirdly, the ending of semifinal and final replays and deciding ties on penalty kicks just saps the last of the drama out of the tournament....
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Kenn - I agree with your sentiment about the replays. I am one who tends to agree that it is not always that much better in the past. I guess that the main...
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Oneonta. Oneida is up there, too, I believe, but the Hall of Fame is in Oneonta. And if it wasn't so hard to get to, I'd agree. If the Soccer Hall of Fame was...
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