As an example, a show that I know of was fined, in part, because 2 people attempting to qualify did not do what they'd said they would do (upgrade to full horse recordings from HIDs) prior to the start of the show. Shows do NOT wait for paperwork to accept entries, those must be processed ahead of time in order to set ride times. We prefer to believe in the positive, that people intend to bring copies or file paperwork at the show. To start turning them away (and not assigning ride times) will result in the demise of recognized shows as we know them. To get back to the example above, the penalty from USDF was for "allowing horse/rider in a class for which they were not eligible". These were both "open/qualifying" classes, so the entries WERE legal to compete in the class, but not to qualify. In another case from the same show, a rider had produced online verification of her membership. USDF wrote back and said there were "too many riders with that name, what was the transaction number". Luckily the show was able to produce the transaction code on one entry, not on 2 others in which a volunteer who did not know to make copies of EVERYTHING helped check people in. It's cases like these that are so frustrating, and quickly adding to the costs of hosting recognized show. The shows in my area are not charging for incomplete entries, holding them back only if they can't look up the memberships/recordings online. Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
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David A. Richie, DVM
richieda@...
Aug 30, 2004 9:56 pm
I think USDF is doing itself a huge disservice by issuing fines to show management rather than participants for "incomplete entries"...i.e. horse recordings...
Hi- I am unable to see an attachement as to the ruling you are referring to. It sounds like the USDF is going whacky..... Is there someplace on the USDF site...
No, they have nothing in print, that's part of the problem. I know of at least 3 different competition management groups who have received fines this ...
USEF and USDF have rules that are sent to show management for compliance before the shows take place. At the convention and through committees the decisions...
Landersfrm@...
Sep 8, 2004 12:33 pm
By the way, an interesting fact, over l00,000 rides will be entered in the data base at USDF it is estimated this year. 67,000 and some have been entered ...
Landersfrm@...
Sep 8, 2004 1:15 pm
I'm curious to know (if you happen to know) what is behind USDF's reasoning in punishing the GMO's who host the shows, rather than punishing the riders/owners...
The fact that so many forms are being left incomplete or filled out incorrectly also suggests that there might also be a problem with the forms themselves. Meg...
Margaret R. Hawthorne
meg.hawthorne@...
Sep 8, 2004 2:20 pm
What I have been hearing anecdotally is that the confusion is primarily with the requirement for Horse ID numbers. It appears that competitors as well as show...
Margene Swarts
mswarts@...
Sep 8, 2004 2:53 pm
Dear Susan, I thought that the fines and what they are for was sent to the show organizers. Don't all shows take incomplete forms and not give out numbers for ...
Landersfrm@...
Sep 8, 2004 3:00 pm
Perhaps at the beginning of the year, all GMO's could print some of the reminders again for their members anyway about what is needed. I know that the ...
Landersfrm@...
Sep 8, 2004 3:08 pm
The policies and procedures listed on the web site have the fines listed under USDF.org/Menu/AboutUs.asp, linked in Competition management section of the web...
Landersfrm@...
Sep 8, 2004 3:29 pm
As an example, a show that I know of was fined, in part, because 2 people attempting to qualify did not do what they'd said they would do (upgrade to full ...
USEF and USDF send out and post reams of information concerning every aspect of the rules and regulations. They also send out (in a timely fashion) reams of...
Bonnie Griest
briarfox-bon@...
Sep 8, 2004 9:02 pm
It would be great to be able to discuss these problems at the convention. I do believe that shows must accept incomplete entries and hope that the riders ...
Landersfrm@...
Sep 8, 2004 9:45 pm
Thank you Bonnie, for your suggestions. Linda...
Landersfrm@...
Sep 8, 2004 9:47 pm
I received this today from a longtime USDF member who is also a member of our local GMO. I think she sums up very well what at least part of the problem is: ...
I have to admit I'm mostly a lurker on this list and I will probably regret posting this- so please be kind. I'm not sure what started this so long after the...
msnemecek@...
Sep 9, 2004 4:31 am
Hi Mary, That's a great idea and obviously took a lot of time and effort to put together. You might want to add the clarification that none of those rules...
Thanks Susan- I think I did say that it pertained to training level and above as Intro was USDF recognized only- if not sorry. I have no idea what the rules...
msnemecek@...
Sep 9, 2004 12:14 pm
Sorry Susan, I just learned about your getting hurt. I am so sorry, and I hope you are doing all right.I think that it is good to have discussions and while...
Landersfrm@...
Sep 9, 2004 3:58 pm
Thank you Mary for a wonderful summary of the information needed. I printed it to keep to hand out to newbies. I hope others will do the same, Linda Landers...
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