I have no problems with changing dates as long as
1) tournament venue can be rebooked
2) TD is ok with it
3) nzfda list is given a week to object - I wouldn't want to change it if
people have already booked non-refundable/non-changeable flights.

I would rather not be the one to organise this - any volunteers out there
(ie anyone actually wanting to go to Kaimana and the "national event") for
checking points above?

Justin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Sanders [mailto:dave@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:27 AM
> To: upc-international@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [upc-international] Finland 2004
>
>
> - Kaimana Klassic (Hawaii) Feb 2003 - (bids close 15 Nov)
> (unfortunately this is also the same weekend as one of our
> tour events... we
> should maybe try to avoid this clash for next year? a small
> number of us
> went to this tournament in 2002 and it was great, would be
> cool to get 2
> full NZ teams there, Open and Womens)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Grindlay [mailto:rachg@...]
> Sent: Thursday, 7 November 2002 10:23 p.m.
> To: upc-international@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [upc-international] Finland 2004
>
>
> I agree with most of your sentiments/concerns Dave.
>
> I think it is possible to get teams in all divisions. But to
> do so, we (I)
> need to prepare people now, not 6 months before. If certain
> people only want
> to go on a 'top' team then that is there prerogative. If they
> don't make the
> 'top' team (which I presume will be the co-ed team) then they have the
> choice of playing with the open or womens team (should there be enough
> players to form) or not going at all. This is why I am keen
> to make people
> aware of the potential situation now, not 8 months out, so if
> people only
> want to play on the top team they can start putting in the
> hard yards now to
> ensure they do as much as possible to ensure selection.
>
> I agree that getting people to Finland is going to be hard enough (re:
> money/leave from work) without expecting attendance at other
> international
> tournaments. I was not suggesting that attendance at build-up
> events would
> be part of the selection criteria. This is just another
> reason for planning
> for Finland now - so that players can (if they want to) plan
> to expand their
> international experience prior to then. If NZ teams can get
> to Kaimana or
> some other overseas tournament - great! If not, well we need
> to work with
> what we've got.
>
> I am also sceptical about World Disc Games. I don't think
> that our energies
> should be focused on it, if someone wants to organise a kiwi
> team to go then
> good for them. But I don't see that an official NZ team will
> go. I have not
> heard anything more from Japan about the possibility of the
> Pacific Rim
> championships (chasing up on this though).
>
> In my mind the possibilities for teams (or parts of teams) to
> prepare prior
> to Finland are:
>
> Open/Womens Teams
> - Kaimana Klassic (Hawaii) Feb 2003 - (bids close 15 Nov)
> - Australian Nationals April 2003
> - Kaimana Klassic (Hawaii) Feb 2004
> - Australian Nationals April 2004
>
> Co-ed
> - Australian Mixed Nationals - Oct 2003
>
> There may be other events which are also suitable.
>
> Rachel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Sanders [mailto:dave@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2002 3:52 p.m.
> To: upc-international@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [upc-international] Finland 2004
>
>
> I think we should go to any/all events as long as enough
> people are keen to
> train and capable of representing NZ. However, it isn't
> always that easy is
> it...
>
> Finland. Right now I wouldn't think we have enough people
> willing and/or
> able to represent NZ to fill teams in every division, there
> will always be
> some people that would want to go, but only if it is a top
> team. In which
> case it comes back to what division or divisions are aimed for.
>
> The build-up of other international tournaments is a nice
> idea, however, it
> again becomes tough as there will always be people that for
> some reason or
> another would want to go some of them and not others. If we
> start putting
> rules in place about having to go to a certain number of build-up
> tournaments or something, then there will always be
> exceptions asked for,
> and that will be hard to deal with. Our current international player
> numbers do not really suit being able to exclude people
> completely because
> they can't make one of the build-up events.
>
> Sorry to be a bit pessimistic about it all, personally I know
> I'd love to go
> to as many tournaments as possible, especially world class
> tournaments, but
> there is a limit to how many of these you can attend and how
> far into the
> future many people here can plan for. It was tricky enough
> getting the 2
> teams to WUCC with many people initially entered withdrawing
> for a multitude
> of reasons.
>
> WDG. Can't really find out much about this, the organiser
> Tom was at WUCC
> trying to convince as many people/teams/countries as possible
> to go, and
> really seemed to put it on a bit thick. I can't seem to find
> out much about
> what is happening with Ultimate there, and what I have found
> worries me a
> little, such as:
> Under "Registered Ultimate teams" there are only 3.
> http://www.worlddiscgames.com/format_ultimate.htm - talks
> about how it will
> be run... just sounds dodgy to me, what do you lot think?
>
> Sorry if not a lot of this makes sense, just rambling off
> some thoughts...
> Dave S.
>
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