Spending the holidays planning a potential summer trip and the issue of
water is coming up. Much of the route I'm planning has a lot of
climbing, high temperatures, no services and long distances (60 - 90
miles). I'm contemplating a system of two 3L Platy water bags strapped
to each side of the bike. Depending on the day I can try to fortune tell
and determine whether I need one, both or neither. Anyone have any other
great ideas?

r

i bought a pair of "chill blocker seal skins"
they seem to be twice the thickness of my "rei storm socks"
so i wore a pair of wool socks and my storm socks and my seal skins....
mind you i am also wearing sandles.....my feet got a little cold....not
bad.....to the point where it gets painful.....but i knew that my feet
were cold....
tomorrow i will try a pair of "toe warmers"   hopefully that will do
the trick....
it was 32 F  with a very strong wind ....so maybe it was some where in
the lower 20`s windchill....my face near the end of my ride started to
burn....but it was nice to be out....

good insight into the wind proof outer layer.....
i will try my showers pass rain booties as my outer layer over my neoprene
booties

--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Tim Greiner <casey51234@...> wrote:

From: Tim Greiner <casey51234@...>
Subject: [ultralightbiking] Re: a ride?
To: ultralightbiking@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 12:58 PM

I have steadily accumulated various gear for cold weather, usually go
with multiple layers and make sure the outer one is windproof.
Finally found some neoprene booties to finish it off, feet and hands
are two difficult places to keep warm.

I have steadily accumulated various gear for cold weather, usually go
with multiple layers and make sure the outer one is windproof.
Finally found some neoprene booties to finish it off, feet and hands
are two difficult places to keep warm.

When it is quite cold (for around here, Willamette Valley, 20 deg)
the problem I still have is with my lungs. It isn't a single trip,
but after several days they start to hurt. I tend to mouth breathe
when exerting myself and the cold air directly into the bronchii
doesn't go well. Has anyone found a system for pre-warming the
inhaling air that works well?

Semi-amusing anecdote- When I was a kid I didn't like the klickety
noise of my freewheel so I packed it with heavy grease. Worked fine
until winter and I took a long ride, the grease got too sticky and
the pawls would not engage. Ended up limping home by simultaneously
putting my left foot in the toeclip, pedalling, and kicking the
freewheel with my right foot. Then clipping in my right foot while
still pedaling wuth the left. Good times.

Happy Thanksgiving, Tim Greiner

--- j.a. tackett wrote:
>
> neoprene booties with wool socks
> sandles
> long under wear bottoms from columbia sports
> winter bicycling tights from mt. borah
> long under wear top from columbia sports
> wool long seleve top from performance
> down vest
> lobster gloves
> balacalva
> showers pass club rain coat (took this off after 1 mile)
> i was comfortable....  
> what did you do to stay warm?
>
> --- Richard Levenberg wrote
>
> And if you are, tell us what youre wearing and how light it is :)
>
>
> conifir1 wrote:
> > its 36 outside with a windchill of 26......
> > its a nice day for a ride......
> > anybody else out there riding today?
> >

i just purchased from epicdesignsalaska a complete ultra light pack system .....
it is worth every penny....go for it

--- On Tue, 11/25/08, AUGUST HAHN <augusthahn@...> wrote:

From: AUGUST HAHN <augusthahn@...>
Subject: Re: [ultralightbiking] a ride?
To: ultralightbiking@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 5:38 PM

In ultralight backpacking there are hundreds of choices in ultralight 
packs,but I find that most bike panniers are heavy and over built with heavy
fabrics,anyone know of alternitve ultralight panniers for touring ?

Check out Specialized Sub-zero finger gloves.  They are water-proof and
breathable and come with liners as well.  You liner gloves may be better.
 
Adrian

--- On Tue, 11/25/08, Joel Wilson <saddletime@...> wrote:

From: Joel Wilson <saddletime@...>
Subject: Re: [ultralightbiking] a ride?
To: ultralightbiking@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 10:15 PM






Yeah!  Thanks for sharing Gary!  It's great to hear from others that are
embracing the seasons.

I'm in agreement with the fingers & toes.  I'm in love with my ibex wool glove
liners (link).  They're my absolute favorite for fingers, super warm, but I
don't have a decent fingered waterproof shell for them.  Suggestions anyone?

In ultralight backpacking there are hundreds of choices in ultralight  packs,but
I find that most bike panniers are heavy and over built with heavy
fabrics,anyone know of alternitve ultralight panniers for touring ?

neoprene booties with wool socks
sandles
long under wear bottoms from columbia sports
winter bicycling tights from mt. borah
long under wear top from columbia sports
wool long seleve top from performance
down vest
lobster gloves
balacalva
showers pass club rain coat (took this off after 1 mile)
i was comfortable....  
what did you do to stay warm?

--- On Tue, 11/25/08, Richard Levenberg <richardl@...> wrote:

From: Richard Levenberg <richardl@...>
Subject: Re: [ultralightbiking] a ride?
To: ultralightbiking@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 9:59 AM

And if you are, tell us what youre wearing and how light it is :)

r

conifir1 wrote:
> its 36 outside with a windchill of 26......
> its a nice day for a ride......
> anybody else out there riding today?
>
>
>


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And if you are, tell us what youre wearing and how light it is :)

r

conifir1 wrote:
> its 36 outside with a windchill of 26......
> its a nice day for a ride......
> anybody else out there riding today?
>
>
>

its 36 outside with a windchill of 26......
its a nice day for a ride......
anybody else out there riding today?

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 09:23:28AM -0800, Iuliana and Adrian Stingaciu wrote:
> The weight is ok but too bad Rainshield is not very compact.  I
> actually had to return mine when I saw how bulky it was.   

What did you buy that compressed to a smaller size?

  -Matt

Yeah thats the same concern I have over the cheapo PVC vinyl option. A
single use item that I would be potentially carrying around all the time.

r

Iuliana and Adrian Stingaciu wrote:
> The weight is ok but too bad Rainshield is not very compact.  I
> actually had to return mine when I saw how bulky it was.
>
> Adrian
>
> -
>

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 03:44:29PM -0800, Richard Levenberg wrote:
> The reviews on the 02 stuff is that its very flimsy and easily tears. Do
> you find this to be the case?

Relatively, yes.  I have patched my pants a couple times with duct
tape, but the jacket hasn't yet needed it.  But it has only been used
on the road, not the trail.

  -Matt

The reviews on the 02 stuff is that its very flimsy and easily tears. Do
you find this to be the case?

r

Matt Liggett wrote:
> I don't have weights, but I'd compare it to the Rainshield stuff,
> which I find to be truly waterproof, excellently breathable and very
> light.  As in 5 ounces.
>

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:52:07AM -0800, Richard Levenberg wrote:
> Anyone know the weight of this jacket and have any comments? The tried
> and true Zephyr isn't really waterproof and Im looking for something
> light and able to get me through a downpour.

I don't have weights, but I'd compare it to the Rainshield stuff,
which I find to be truly waterproof, excellently breathable and very
light.  As in 5 ounces.
--
Matt Liggett <mml@...>                          http://mml.name/
New Castle County, Delaware              .
                                         ..:

Anyone know the weight of this jacket and have any comments? The tried
and true Zephyr isn't really waterproof and Im looking for something
light and able to get me through a downpour.

r

yeah i have been there......i was just interested in what others have done for
their comfort

--- On Mon, 10/20/08, darryl skrabak <dskrabak@...> wrote:

From: darryl skrabak <dskrabak@...>
Subject: Re: [ultralightbiking] dry feet
To: ultralightbiking@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 12:10 PM

    For good info on winter riding, Google "icebike", or see
www.icebike.org.

                 -- darryl skrabak