Hi all --

As a newbie to the list, what do you consider 'ultra-light' touring?

We are looking to be about 20kg of gear each, including panniers but
not food/water/bike for an extended tour (we being me and my husband).
Haven't really tried to knock that down too much, but then we haven't
been on the road yet either! A few days may see some stuff go.

How does that compare? Heavy as heck? So-so? I have a hunch it is not
in the ultra-light category, which appeals to me yet also worries me
as I don't want to be without some comforts.

Eating cold food until we find a restaurant, for example, is not an
option. I want a stove so I can have coffee in the morning and hot
food at night. Not to mention the cost factor that would come with
eating out frequently.

Nice to meet you all.

Friedel