Yeah, I forgot to put the *'s in the last post.  The teams we're
intested in are:

Amherst Varsity*
NMH*
Scarsdale*
Stuyvesant*

*cough* *cough*   How come I don't see Princeton on that list? We
did beat scarsdale 13-1 and columbia 13-4 just the other day....

-ted
PHS Ultimate
--- In ultimate@y..., "andoverultimatefrisbee"
<andoverultimatefrisbee@y...> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I was just wondering if people could let me know how well the A div
> teams for Amherst have been doing so far this season.  Either a
> website or a quick list of wins/losses for each team would be
> sufficient.  I know their good...but HOW good?  The teams with a *
> are the ones I am most interested in.  Thanks...
>
> Joseph Kolchinsky
> Andover High Golden Gophers (1999-2002)
>
> List of teams:
>
> Amherst Varsity
> NMH
> Scarsdale
> Stuyvesant
> Paideia
> Greenfield
> Phillips Academy
> Newton North
> Andover High
> Columbia

----- Original Message -----

From: tgardner@...

To: Juniors Ultimate List ; Chris Lehmann

Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Jrs Ultimate] College / H.S. crossover

U vermont has three ex-captains from the top fifteen teams in the nation last
year, two of which went to nationals...(north penn and hanover, the other being
phillips academy)...one freshman from scarsdale, and two sophmores from newton
north.

wouldn't this be more of a compilation of statistics? and not so much an article?
..seems like it might be a difficult article to write

tyler
u vermont


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i seem to be with a large number of people here when i say i'll be
headed out to stanford next year. can't wait to get out there, even
if some say it is too warm (though i would dispute that, having lived
in wisconsin my whole life). looking forward to meeting some of the
stanford bound students at junior nationals, can't wait

Doug Allen
Midwest Express
Madison, WI

Wouldn't it be great if there was a website with all Jrs scores? Who
beat who, by how much?

Wait ... there is one!

http://RichFranck.com

Mouse-over: JUNIORS
Mouse-over: NATIONAL
click on: GAME DATABASE
click on: SCORE CHECKER


-Rich Franck
PS Rankings have been updated as of April 30.


Joseph wrote:
-------------------
> Hey,
>
> I was just wondering if people could let me know how well the A div
> teams for Amherst have been doing so far this season.  Either a
> website or a quick list of wins/losses for each team would be
> sufficient.

>
> Also what's the requirements for playing on another universities team? Do you
have to take a course, or can you play with them if your college doesn't have a
team?

Go to www.upa.org/college and scroll down to the heading called Team Info. 
There's a link under that called "Single Team" that establishes the criteria and
procedure for schools to form single teams for the UPA College Series.

Will

Churchill Ultimate (A 1st year HS team) is most likely
sending 3 seniors to Columbia (2 guys and 1 girl) and
1 to an art school near brown (He is hoping to play
with Brown as I am positive the arts school does not
have a team)...  He's 6'4" and a very good athelete,
so hopefully those guys at Brown can make that happen.

They'd be better if I had been able to coach them for
the past 4 years instead of 1, but they will still
have a pretty good head start on all the rookies who
never played in HS.

-t
Churchill Ultimate, Coach

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JUST-Indiana is 10 days away and so far only three teams have committed:

South Bend Clay
Mishawaka Marian
South Bend St. Joseph's

Anyone else?

The tournament is set for Saturday May 11 at Roseland Park in South Bend.
Please contact me ASAP if you can bring a team.

If you can't come please contact me anyway so we have contact info for next
year.

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Let me add Beacon's captain Matt Shapiro to the list. He's been a starter
since his frosh year, gradually taking a bigger and bigger year. This
year, Beacon has a young team, having graduated six seniors each of the
last two years, including Carmelo last year. Aside from Matt, there are
five players with one year of experience and ten new players this year. It
was very much looking like a rebuilding year for Beacon, but as the year
goes on, that's looking less and less the case.

Matt is unquestionably our leader on the field. He spent the summer and
fall working on so many parts of our game, but more importantly, Matt sets
a tone for the whole team. Beacon has no fields at our school, and there's
no field space anywhere in Manhattan after school, so we practice at 6:45
every morning. For four years, Matt has been there every day on time. This
year, when it would have been so easy for him to get frustrated, he's
taken the challenge of making sure that he leaves a strong team for
Beacon's future, still there every day. And it's paying off. After
starting 0-3, Beacon went to the Semis of Hop-on-Pop B, and we're looking
to do some damage both at Amherst this weekend and at New York States in
June. And it's due, in large part, to the example that Matt has set.

So, for both his play on the field where he clearly belongs with the names
on that list, and, perhaps more importantly, because of the way he
completely embodies the Spirit of the Game, I think that Matt Shapiro
belongs on the USA Worlds team this year.

-- Chris Lehmann, Coach
-- Beacon Blue Demons
--
"Nothing great could be accomplished without enthusiasm"
                              -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

There are three kids this year from phillips who could run with many of the top
players in the country for juniors : greg booth, nadeem mazen, and krishna rao.
they've all played for about four years now and hopefully will lead the team to
good things at amherst this weekend.

i haven't seen any of them play this year, so i couldn't pick one over the other
for the nomination.

but greg booth has better spirit than any player i've ever seen in highschool
and college disc alike.

later

tg

another idea is to just name an all-tournament team, based on individual
performance at nationals.  no, it doesn't include people who are deserving of
being on a US national team that don't go to jnats, however, it makes the
selection process far less arbitrary and we don't necessarily have to pretend
that it's a "national team."  in lieu of a national team, it's probably the next
best thing, but it's also something that could be done in addition to a national
team.  we could do the all-tournament team, of say, 15, and then maybe do a
national team of 15 that includes the top 10 from the all-tournament team and 5
other kids from non-nationals teams, who have either been examined or applied or
whatever.

just throwing out lots of meaningless ideas and numbers.  inspired, naturally,
by middle school soccer.

patty% (shafted in all-HVAC tournament selections, '97)
elixirmusic.com



oh, and to adam and whoever else interested, my full name is patrick hart. . .

When you mentioned the "Top Guy from St. Johns", were you referring to St. John's-Ravenscourt of Winnipeg?  If so, great call!  In fact, two former SJR players and two current players are going to be at Worlds, playing for Canada (Adam, Andrei, Brent and Eric).

Adam Simon wrote:

 

So, the USA isn't going to worlds. Everyone knows that sucks, and no one is happy about it. I know of a few players myself who will not get their shot at international competition despite deserving it. That also sucks. But the least we can do is give them some recognition. We said that we could still name the team(and a second and third). So who's gonna do that? Will applications still be sent in? Or will Michael and Tiina just name the team after Jr. Nats? I am in absolutely no position of authority, but I would like to name my picks, and then if I leave anyone out, please feel free to correct me without attacking me(Ed, from Columbia). I realize that both Yorktown and Princton have been handing out some beatdowns, but I never played against either team when I was a Junior, so I don't know their top guys. So if you guys are out there and want to nominate a player or two, feel free to do that. Tyler can probably help me out with the Philips academy guys. Remember this is not official. If I leave your name off the list, it does not mean you suck. It means that I probably don't know you. And without further Adieu... Dylan Tunnell-PaideiaJacob Goldstien-NMHCarmelo Pabon-NMHJolian Dahl-PaideiaJeff Ahern-AmherstNick Hollan-NashvilleTom Burkly-Newton NorthWilliam Chen-StyvesantJoel Cincotta-ColumbiaNathan Segal-PaideiaWill Thomsen-PaideiaHudson(last name?)-WoodwardRandy White-WoodwardPatti(last name?)-Nashville...That's all I got. Somewhat disappointing that I couldn't even get twenty guysAdditions/Alternates:2 or 3 from AmherstTop guy from YorktownTop one or two from MidwestTop guy from St. JohnsShort handler from Columbia(Sorry I don't know your name)Sam Berry-PaideiaNot sure about the rest, so...Why doesn't someone help me fill in the holes??I'll see(and meet) many of you in Atlanta in a couple of weeks. I am looking forward to it. If anyone wants any info about Cu-Boulder's ultimate program , let me know. You can access the men's page at  www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/mamabird and the women's at http://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/Kali Best of luck to everyone as another exciting Junior's season comes to a close. ASIGruel 1998-2001Mamabird 2002

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----- Original Message -----

From: tgardner@...

To: ultimate@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:23 PM

Subject: Re: [Jrs Ultimate] World's Team

There are three kids this year from phillips who could run with many of the top
players in the country for juniors : greg booth, nadeem mazen, and krishna rao.
they've all played for about four years now and hopefully will lead the team to
good things at amherst this weekend.

i haven't seen any of them play this year, so i couldn't pick one over the other
for the nomination.

but greg booth has better spirit than any player i've ever seen in highschool
and college disc alike.

later

tg


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Shannon Wallack wrote:

"my name is Shannon Wallack i play for ARHS ultimate,
located in Amherst, Mass. i will be attending Umass in
the fall along with many of my team mates."

Hi all,

Missing most of the scores, but here are the results of B Division Pool
play:

Haverhill over ARMS 15-4
Haverhill over ARHS JV
Haverhill over CSW
CSW over ARHS JV
CSW over ARMS 15-9
ARHS JV over ARMS 15-4

Weston over Newton South
Weston over ARHS 9th
Weston over Beacon
Newton South over ARHS 9th
Newton Soutn over Beacon
ARHS 9th over Beacon

Jim

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question from Spencer:
"So... is there any next year worlds or will this years
lead to the way it will be done in the future. Because
I was really looking forward to just applying for
worlds next year. Half the fun is getting there,
right."

answer:
The next Worlds will be in the summer of 2004.

-Rich Franck
(GM of the USA Jr Worlds team in 2000)

Girls Division:

  ARHS V over Andover 15-0
  ARHS V over Stuyvesant 15-0
  ARHS V over ARHS JV 15-2
  ARHS V over Haverhill 15-4
  Haverhill over Stuyvesant 11-1
  Paideia over Andover 10-4
  ARHS JV over Paideia 11-1
  Haverhill over ARHS JV 12-5
  Haverhill over Paideia 13-2
  ARHS JV over Andover 15-4
  missing a few scores from this division, mainly Stuy's


  Open Division A

  ARHS V over Stuyvesant 14-4
  ARHS V over Scarsdale 15-2
  ARHS V over NMH 15-5
  Andover over Stuyvesant 15-8
  NMH over Andover 15-10
  NMH over Scarsdale 15-6
  NMH over Stuyvesant 14-3
  Andover over Scarsdale 13-12

  Paideia over Greenfield 10-4
  Paideia over Newton North 12-5
  Newton North over Columbia 14-7
  Newton North over Phillips Academy 15-11
  Columbia over Greenfield 15-5
  Phillips Andover over Greenfield 11-8
  missing a few scores from this pool, mainly Paideia's, who went undefeated
today

does anyone have the email of the amherst JV boys coach? thanx

                                  Not afraid to get dirty,
                                             Sam Kindick
                                      Captain of LS Ultimate

Open...
Amherst Varsity = undefeated
Paideia = undefeated
Looking like those two will meet (again) in the finals on Sunday.
NMH, Andover and Newton North all looking strong.
VERY EXCITING!

Women...
Amherst women dominating again this year.


-Rich Franck

Rankings have been updated...
see:  http://RichFranck.com
Juniors/Nationals/Game Database/Rankings

1 Paideia (GA)
2 Woodward (GA)
3 St. Margaret's-McTernan (CT)
4 Andover (MA)
5 Cardinal Gibbons (NC)
6 Simley (MN)
7 Amherst (MA)
8 Brutal Grassburn (TN)
9 Chapel Hill (NC)
10 Lexington (MA)

As for the University of Wisconsin, one of our captians has been a
Newton North ultimate Grad for the past 4 years, we have two other
players who went to Junior nationals, and around 8 other players who
played for highschool teams. Every year the freshman coming in and
trying out are getting better and better. This year will be the third
straight trip to nationals for the UW,

jason ludden
UW Hodag #42

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Simon [mailto:asi114@...]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:51 AM
To: ultimate@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Jrs Ultimate] Amherst SUNDAY results

Word is Paideia over Amherst 15-6 in the finals.                                                           Paideia over NMH 14-10 in one semi.

Not sure about any of the other scores from any other divisions. Tiina, Jim can you fill us in? Who made the quarters? Who was in the other semi? What about the women's and B divisions?

ASI

>From: "tiinab"

>To:

>CC: "Aaron Rubin" , "Andrew Vernon-Jones" , "Andy Woglom" , "Anna Berman" , "Audrey JB Hyvonen" , "Austin Booth" , "Chris Meyers" , "Debbie Mullins" , "Daniel Souweine" , "Daniel Roth" , "Donald S. Booth" , "Geoff Kravitz" , "Isaac Bromberg" , "Jim Pistrang" , , "Nicholas C. Lange" , , "Steven Rouisse" , "stidsen"

>Subject: [Jrs Ultimate] Amherst Invitational 02 Results (Partial)

>Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:36:36 -0400

>

>

> Girls Division:

>

> ARHS V over Andover 15-0

> ARHS V over Stuyvesant 15-0

> ARHS V over ARHS JV 15-2

> ARHS V over Haverhill 15-4

> Haverhill over Stuyvesant 11-1

> Paideia over Andover 10-4

> ARHS JV over Paideia 11-1

> Haverhill over ARHS JV 12-5

> Haverhill over Paideia 13-2

> ARHS JV over Andover 15-4

> missing a few scores from this division, mainly Stuy's

>

>

> Open Division A

>

> ARHS V over Stuyvesant 14-4

> ARHS V over Scarsdale 15-2

> ARHS V over NMH 15-5

> Andover over Stuyvesant 15-8

> NMH over Andover 15-10

> NMH over Scarsdale 15-6

> NMH over Stuyvesant 14-3

> Andover over Scarsdale 13-12

>

> Paideia over Greenfield 10-4

> Paideia over Newton North 12-5

> Newton North over Columbia 14-7

> Newton North over Phillips Academy 15-11

> Columbia over Greenfield 15-5

> Phillips Andover over Greenfield 11-8

> missing a few scores from this pool, mainly Paideia's, who went undefeated

>today

>

>

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Hi all,

The results of the Amherst Invitational are posted on our web page:
     http://jpcr.no-ip.com/arhs2002.html

There are a few scores missing and a few unknown results.  If you have
any corrections or additions please send me an email.

Jim

PS: Go Tufts!!!

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I don't think there were "quarterfinalists".  It was pool play, and
then the top two from each pool went at it.  Here's how Andover did
on Sunday:

Amherst over Andover - 14-7 (but Andover was up 4-2 in the beginning,
sense the bias?)

Phillips Academy over Andover for 5th place - 15-12



Joe Kolchinsky
Andover Ultimate

PS.  I also know that NMH lost to Newton North for third place.