My friend and former ECHL, UHL, and WPHL netminder Rob
Laurie is in negotiations with the CHL Fort Worth
Brahmas on the renewal of his contract. The team had
made him an offer, but it was not much more than a
rookie would make.

Rob's a great guy and because he's really easy going,
tends to get taken advantage of in his jobs.  He's
still owed money by Anaheim, and this last summer he
played roller hockey for team USA on the promise of
new equipment.  He got a pair of new gloves out of the
deal.  They never even ordered new goalie sticks for
him!

Rob's not asking for a lot of money, just a fair
contract.

The Brahma fans have put together a petition to Todd
Lalonde and the Brahmas front office to get Rob the
attention he need's to get him a decent offer on his
contract for this year. As far as the petition goes,
the total number of signatures - not whether you're a
Brahma fan - is the important thing.  We have 84 right
now.  We'd like to break the 100 mark!

Please help out, even if you don't know him, by
signing the petition at
http://www.petitiononline.com/signrob/petition.html

There's also a banner available you can display on
your site if you wish to help out even more, the
coding is as follows:

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width="400" height="120" alt="Bring Back
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More about a great guy (including pictures), an
outstanding netminder, and a good freind of mine, can
be found at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/roblaurieappreciationsociety


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At 10:02 PM 8/24/01 -0400, Darby31897@... wrote:
>Hans, is this info valid?
>"Since the WCHL is keeping quiet about future expansion sites,
>here is what to expect:
>* Sacramento (could obtain expansion teams early as next season)

I've heard the same information, I believe from the same source.  However,
I remain in a "I'll enjoy it if it happens, but I'm not counting on all the
things coming together" mode.  The person who's driving the Sacto effort is
devoted and I admire his persistence and will, but I haven't heard anything
from any other sources to confirm these efforts.

>* Stockton (will come in when new downtown arena is built)

If Stockton is building a downtown arena, it's a possibility, but I think
Stockton and Sacto are too close to support two teams -- too little
population between the two to make it work.  If it's true, I think it's a
bad idea -- it should be one or the other, not both.

>* Vancouver, WA (2003-2004)

This is true -- assuming that the owners can sell the naming rights to the
building by October.  If not, the whole project might go up in smoke --
plus, the local residents are going to court to force an election on
whether or not to build this events center.  This team will be owned by the
owner of the dormant Phoenix Mustangs -- and might even _be_ the Mustangs.

>* Las Vegas (when downtown arena is built)

There's people behind this effort, but until ground is broken and the plans
are approved by the city, anything can and quite likely will go wrong.

>* Ontario (2-3 years, owned by Long Beach owner)

They've had to redo the plans and designs, scaling down from a 10,000 seat
arena to a 6,000 seat "events center", and the financing still isn't in
place.  However, yes, the Long Beach owner is behind the push for this
arena, and owns the dormant Tucson WCHL franchise to place there when/if it
comes to fruition.  This is Ontario, CA -- inland from Los Angeles, near
San Bernardino.

>* Everett, WA (owned by Long Beach owner)

Yes, the LB owner has the WCHL rights to an Everett franchise, but the city
still hasn't decided between the WCHL and the Canadian Major Junior
WHL.  My personal money is on the WHL, as they would be a travel partner
for the Seattle Thunderbirds -- or a place for the Thunderbirds to move to.

>Phoenix franchise will move to Chandler, AZ based on new arena.

Possible -- but I've heard no word from the area that Chandler is going to
go with the arena -- again, color me skeptical until there's more firm
confirmation.

>* San Francisco was talked about in recent meeting, based on getting new
>arena built."

If true, this is a stupid, stupid, stupid move, IMO -- San Francisco and
Oakland have been the death of many a pro hockey franchise, from the old
pro WHL to the NHL to the IHL and so on -- it just doesn't work, minor
league or major league, and even if it's a 6,000 seat mid-town arena, I'm
very skeptical that WCHL hockey would have a wing and a prayer there --
just take a look at the IHL Los Angeles Ice Dogs their one year in the LA
Sports Arena.


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At 02:30 PM 8/23/01 -0400, Tim Burns wrote:

>Nothing about purchasing of a dormant franchise or anything like that -
>expansion - they created a new team - they didn't take a "dormant" team
>and move it to Bridgeport.  I believe that the Manchester franchise is the
>former Corwall Aces - but I could be wrong about that one.  What are your
>sources Hans?  Do you have any press releases or documentation that I may
>have overlooked that shows that Bridgeport was purchased from elsewhere
>and moved there?

I only have second-hand reports that THN and the New Haven register
reported that Roy Boe purchased the Bridgeport franchise from the Carolina
Hurricanes, making it the old Monarchs/Beast franchise -- I don't have the
original sources, I'm afraid...


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"AHL adds Manchester, N.H.

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To: uhl_list@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 08/23/01 14:01:24

Subject: RE: [uhl_list] Kill List 8/23/01

At 01:44 PM 8/23/01 -0400, you wrote:
>I thought that Manchester and Bridgeport of the AHL were pure expansion
>teams, not "re-births" of past teams.

Not from what I've been able to ferret out -- these were rights to teams
that were dormant and sold, from everything I've learned.


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At 01:44 PM 8/23/01 -0400, you wrote:
>I thought that Manchester and Bridgeport of the AHL were pure expansion
>teams, not "re-births" of past teams.

Not from what I've been able to ferret out -- these were rights to teams
that were dormant and sold, from everything I've learned.


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----- Original Message -----

From: Hans Hornstein

To: ahl@yahoogroups.com;uhl_list@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 08/23/01 12:41:57

Subject: [uhl_list] Kill List 8/23/01

Updates (8/23/01):  Names all determined, Indy stays in CHL, updated some
rumors and future expansions.     
-----------------------------
==========
NHL (30 teams in 2001):
==========
No Change

==========
IHL (-11 teams, RIP):
==========
KILLS (5):
      Cleveland Lumberjacks -fold, financial, 5/23/01
      Orlando Solar Bears - fold, financial, 6/5/01
      Cincinnati Cyclones - fold, financial, 6/5/01
      Detroit Vipers - fold, financial, 6/5/01
      Kansas City Blades - fold, financial, 6/5/01
DEFECTIONS (6):
      Utah Grizzlies -> AHL, 6/4/01
      Houston Aeros -> AHL, 6/4/01
      Manitoba Moose -> AHL, 6/4/01
    ! nbsp; Grand Rapids Griffins -> AHL, 6/4/01
      Milwaukee Admirals -> AHL, 6/4/01
      Chicago Wolves -> AHL, 6/4/01

==========
AHL (+7 teams, 27 in 2001):     
==========
KILLS (1):
      Louisville Panthers - suspend operations, arena + financial, 5/23/01
MOVES (1):
      Kentucky Thoroughblades (Lexington) -> Cleveland, 6/4/01
EXPANSIONS (8):
      Bridgeport Sound Tigers (CT) - rebirth of Beast of New Haven, RIP 1999
      Manchester Monarchs (NH) - rebirth of Cornwall Aces(?), RIP 1996?
      Utah Grizzlies (Salt Lake City) - from IHL
      Houston Aeros - from IHL
      Manitoba Moose (Winnipeg) - from IHL
      Grand Rapids Griffins -! from IHL
      Milwaukee Admirals - from IHL
      Chicago Wolves - from IHL
FUTURE EXPANSIONS (3):
      Toronto [2002] - rebirth of Louisville Panthers, RIP 2001 (pending approval)
      ?? [2002?] - rebirth of PEI Senators, RIP 1996
      Kansas City? [2002?] - rebirth of Adirondack Red Wings(?), RIP 1999

==========
ECHL (+4 teams, 29 in 2001):
==========
MOVES (2):
      Birmingham Bulls (AL) -> Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies (NJ), 5/14/01
      Tallahassee TigerSharks -> Macon Whoopee (GA) (from CHL), 6/15/01
EXPANSIONS (4):
      Columbia Inferno (SC)
      Reading Royals - rebirth of Columbus Chill, RIP 1999
      Columbus Cottonmouths (GA) - from CHL, rebirth of Ha! mpton Roads Admirals,
RIP 2000
      Cincinnati Cyclones - rebirth of Miami Matadors, RIP 1999
FUTURE EXPANSIONS/MOVES (4):
      Beaumont (TX) [2002] - rebirth of Huntington Blizzard(?), RIP 2000
      Myrtle Beach Thunderboltz (SC) [2002] - rebirth of ?, move of ?
      Jacksonville Lizard Kings [2003?, 2004?] - rebirth of selves, RIP 2000
      Atlanta (Gwinett Co) [2003] - ??

==========
UHL (-1 teams, 14 in 2001):
==========
KILLS (1):
      Mohawk Valley Prowlers - mid-season fold, 2/21/01
ALLEGED FUTURE EXPANSION (2):
      Lehigh Valley Xtreme [2002] - only Brosal believes this one
      Arctic Xpress [2002] - only Brosal believes this one, too

==========
CHL, formerly CHL/WPHL (-11 teams, 6 in 2001 - 6 former CHL,! 10 former WPHL):
==========
KILLS (9 = 5 WPHL, 4 CHL):
      Tucson Scorch, WPHL - preseason fold, 10/12/00
      Central Texas Stampede (Belton), WPHL - mid-season fold, 1/9/01
      Border City Bandits (Texarkana), CHL - mid-season fold, 2/20/01
      Topeka Scarecrows, CHL - fold, defection to USHL, 4/10/01
      Huntsville Tornado, CHL - fold, arena, 5/24/01
      Lake Charles Ice Pirates, WPHL - suspend operations, financial, 6/5/01
      Monroe Moccasins, WPHL - fold, financial, 6/15/01
      Fayetteville Force, CHL - fold, geography, 7/2/01
      Tupelo T-Rex, WPHL - dropped to AWHL, 7/13/01
DEFECTIONS (2 = 0 WPHL, 2 CHL):
      Macon Whoopee, CHL -> ECHL via Tallahassee
 &n! bsp;    Columbus Cottonmouths, CHL -> ECHL via Hampton Roads
FUTURE EXPANSION (5):
      Rio Grande Valley (Hidalgo, TX) [2002?]
      Laredo (TX) [2002]
      Ozark/Springfield (MO) [2002] - move of Indianapolis?
      Birmingham (AL)? [2002?]
      Fort Collins (CO) [2003]

==========
WCHL (-1 team, 8 in 2001):
==========
KILLS (1):
      Phoenix Mustangs - suspend operations, arena + financial, 5/24/01
FUTURE/RUMORED EXPANSION (too many to count, none solid):
      Las Vegas Wranglers [2003?] - pending arena development
      Everett (WA) [2003?] - if city chooses WCHL over WHL
      Reno [2003?] - if city plans events center by June 2002.
      Vancouver (WA) ! [2003?, 2004?] - rebirth of Phoenix Mustangs?, RIP 2001
      Ontario (CA) [2003?, 2004?] - rebirth of Tucson Gila Monsters, RIP 1998
      Phoenix Mustangs? [?] - rebirth of selves?
      Sacramento [?]

TOTALS:
==========
17 kills
6 expansions
8 defections
3 moves
--
137 teams started play in October, 2000
124 teams to play in October, 2001




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-----------------------------
==========
NHL (30 teams in 2001):
==========
No Change

==========
IHL (-11 teams, RIP):
==========
KILLS (5):
	 Cleveland Lumberjacks -fold, financial, 5/23/01
	 Orlando Solar Bears - fold, financial, 6/5/01
	 Cincinnati Cyclones - fold, financial, 6/5/01
	 Detroit Vipers - fold, financial, 6/5/01
	 Kansas City Blades - fold, financial, 6/5/01
DEFECTIONS (6):
	 Utah Grizzlies -> AHL, 6/4/01
	 Houston Aeros -> AHL, 6/4/01
	 Manitoba Moose -> AHL, 6/4/01
	 Grand Rapids Griffins -> AHL, 6/4/01
	 Milwaukee Admirals -> AHL, 6/4/01
	 Chicago Wolves -> AHL, 6/4/01

==========
AHL (+7 teams, 27 in 2001):
==========
KILLS (1):
	 Louisville Panthers - suspend operations, arena + financial, 5/23/01
MOVES (1):
	 Kentucky Thoroughblades (Lexington) -> Cleveland, 6/4/01
EXPANSIONS (8):
	 Bridgeport Sound Tigers (CT) - rebirth of Beast of New Haven, RIP 1999
	 Manchester Monarchs (NH) - rebirth of Cornwall Aces(?), RIP 1996?
	 Utah Grizzlies (Salt Lake City) - from IHL
	 Houston Aeros - from IHL
	 Manitoba Moose (Winnipeg) - from IHL
	 Grand Rapids Griffins - from IHL
	 Milwaukee Admirals - from IHL
	 Chicago Wolves - from IHL
FUTURE EXPANSIONS (3):
	 Toronto [2002] - rebirth of Louisville Panthers, RIP 2001 (pending approval)
	 ?? [2002?] - rebirth of PEI Senators, RIP 1996
	 Kansas City? [2002?] - rebirth of Adirondack Red Wings(?), RIP 1999

==========
ECHL (+4 teams, 29 in 2001):
==========
MOVES (2):
	 Birmingham Bulls (AL) -> Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies (NJ), 5/14/01
	 Tallahassee TigerSharks -> Macon Whoopee (GA) (from CHL), 6/15/01
EXPANSIONS (4):
	 Columbia Inferno (SC)
	 Reading Royals - rebirth of Columbus Chill, RIP 1999
	 Columbus Cottonmouths (GA) - from CHL, rebirth of Hampton Roads Admirals,
RIP 2000
	 Cincinnati Cyclones - rebirth of Miami Matadors, RIP 1999
FUTURE EXPANSIONS/MOVES (4):
	 Beaumont (TX) [2002] - rebirth of Huntington Blizzard(?), RIP 2000
	 Myrtle Beach Thunderboltz (SC) [2002] - rebirth of ?, move of ?
	 Jacksonville Lizard Kings [2003?, 2004?] - rebirth of selves, RIP 2000
	 Atlanta (Gwinett Co) [2003] - ??

==========
UHL (-1 teams, 14 in 2001):
==========
KILLS (1):
	 Mohawk Valley Prowlers - mid-season fold, 2/21/01
ALLEGED FUTURE EXPANSION (2):
	 Lehigh Valley Xtreme [2002] - only Brosal believes this one
	 Arctic Xpress [2002] - only Brosal believes this one, too

==========
CHL, formerly CHL/WPHL (-11 teams, 6 in 2001 - 6 former CHL, 10 former WPHL):
==========
KILLS (9 = 5 WPHL, 4 CHL):
	 Tucson Scorch, WPHL - preseason fold, 10/12/00
	 Central Texas Stampede (Belton), WPHL - mid-season fold, 1/9/01
	 Border City Bandits (Texarkana), CHL - mid-season fold, 2/20/01
	 Topeka Scarecrows, CHL - fold, defection to USHL, 4/10/01
	 Huntsville Tornado, CHL - fold, arena, 5/24/01
	 Lake Charles Ice Pirates, WPHL - suspend operations, financial, 6/5/01
	 Monroe Moccasins, WPHL - fold, financial, 6/15/01
	 Fayetteville Force, CHL - fold, geography, 7/2/01
	 Tupelo T-Rex, WPHL - dropped to AWHL, 7/13/01
DEFECTIONS (2 = 0 WPHL, 2 CHL):
	 Macon Whoopee, CHL -> ECHL via Tallahassee
	 Columbus Cottonmouths, CHL -> ECHL via Hampton Roads
FUTURE EXPANSION (5):
	 Rio Grande Valley (Hidalgo, TX) [2002?]
	 Laredo (TX) [2002]
	 Ozark/Springfield (MO) [2002] - move of Indianapolis?
	 Birmingham (AL)? [2002?]
	 Fort Collins (CO) [2003]

==========
WCHL (-1 team, 8 in 2001):
==========
KILLS (1):
	 Phoenix Mustangs - suspend operations, arena + financial, 5/24/01
FUTURE/RUMORED EXPANSION (too many to count, none solid):
	 Las Vegas Wranglers [2003?] - pending arena development
	 Everett (WA) [2003?] - if city chooses WCHL over WHL
	 Reno [2003?] - if city plans events center by June 2002.
	 Vancouver (WA) [2003?, 2004?] - rebirth of Phoenix Mustangs?, RIP 2001
	 Ontario (CA) [2003?, 2004?] - rebirth of Tucson Gila Monsters, RIP 1998
	 Phoenix Mustangs? [?] - rebirth of selves?
	 Sacramento [?]

TOTALS:
==========
17 kills
6 expansions
8 defections
3 moves
--
137 teams started play in October, 2000
124 teams to play in October, 2001

Link courtesy of Tom Cannon over on the SillySeason list... my condolences
to fans of the Ice.  Maybe the rumors of Chen purchasing them to move them
to Ozark, MO, in 2002-03 will come to fruition, and the UHL or AHL can move
into Indy for 2002.

>Ice return to Chen's sports empire
>Previous owner buys team back from Pedigo's group, plans to
>keep it in his revamped CHL.
>
>By Phillip B. Wilson
>Indianapolis Star
>July 27, 2001
>Horn Chen is in, Gary Pedigo and friends are out, and the
>Indianapolis Ice are staying in a reconstructed Central Hockey
>League.....
>
>http://www.starnews.com/print/articles/ice27.html

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Just curious who your Knoxville Speed reporter is...

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> JH is still lacking writers for the following teams: Adirondack, BC,
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JH is still lacking writers for the following teams: Adirondack, BC,
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and only 1 inquiry on BC. There must be fans in these cities that want to
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Topics in this digest:

       1. Wanting CoHL/UHL magnet schedules
            From: wmichsked@...
       2. Wanting 1991-92 pocket schedules
            From: wmichsked@...
       3. Re: Wanting 1991-92 pocket schedules
            From: Darby31897@...
       4. Re: Wanting 1991-92 pocket schedules
            From: wmichsked@...


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Message: 1
    Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:28:42 -0000
    From: wmichsked@...
Subject: Wanting CoHL/UHL magnet schedules

Hello:

I would like to know if the following teams produced a magnet
schedule for the following seasons:

1995-96:  Detroit Falcons, Quad City Mallards, Utica Blizzard
1996-97:  Thunder Bay Thunder Cats
1998-99:  Asheville Smoke, Thunder Bay, Winston-Salem Icehawks
1999-00:  Adirondack, Knoxville, Madison Kodiaks, Mohawk Valley
2000-01:  Quad City

If one was made, does anyone have an extra one that you can send me?
Any help is appreciated.  Thanks.

                     Rich



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Message: 2
    Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:31:03 -0000
    From: wmichsked@...
Subject: Wanting 1991-92 pocket schedules

Hello:

I would like to know if anyone has an extra pocket schedule for the
following:

1991-92:  Colonial Hockey League schedule, Thunder Bay ThunderHawks

Will buy or trade for them.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks.

                     Rich



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Message: 3
    Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:57:46 EDT
    From: Darby31897@...
Subject: Re: Wanting 1991-92 pocket schedules

Try the hockey history list

Darby


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Message: 4
    Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:30:41 EDT
    From: wmichsked@...
Subject: Re: Wanting 1991-92 pocket schedules

Darby:

I'm looking for the actual pocket schedule that the Thunder Bay Thunder Hawks

made as well as the Colonial Hockey League league schedule if one was made in

a booklet form.  I'm a pocket and magnet schedule collector.  That is what
I'm looking for.  Thanks for your response.

                             Rich


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The Falcons did not have a magnet schedule in 95-96.


--- wmichsked@... wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I would like to know if the following teams produced
> a magnet
> schedule for the following seasons:
>
> 1995-96:  Detroit Falcons, Quad City Mallards, Utica
> Blizzard
> 1996-97:  Thunder Bay Thunder Cats
> 1998-99:  Asheville Smoke, Thunder Bay,
> Winston-Salem Icehawks
> 1999-00:  Adirondack, Knoxville, Madison Kodiaks,
> Mohawk Valley
> 2000-01:  Quad City
>
> If one was made, does anyone have an extra one that
> you can send me?
> Any help is appreciated.  Thanks.
>
>                     Rich
>
>


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Hello:

I would like to know if anyone has an extra pocket schedule for the
following:

1991-92:  Colonial Hockey League schedule, Thunder Bay ThunderHawks

Will buy or trade for them.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks.

                     Rich

Hello:

I would like to know if the following teams produced a magnet
schedule for the following seasons:

1995-96:  Detroit Falcons, Quad City Mallards, Utica Blizzard
1996-97:  Thunder Bay Thunder Cats
1998-99:  Asheville Smoke, Thunder Bay, Winston-Salem Icehawks
1999-00:  Adirondack, Knoxville, Madison Kodiaks, Mohawk Valley
2000-01:  Quad City

If one was made, does anyone have an extra one that you can send me?
Any help is appreciated.  Thanks.

                     Rich

From InfoBeat:

"ECHL-Announced the addition of the Cincinnati Cyclones to the league."

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The owners of the Clones have had talks with UHL officials about joining, but
nothing has been committed. All of this can be found in recent article's in
Indy's paper.

What is going on with Cincy?

Where do people find these rumors?

--- Darby31897@... wrote:
> The UHL will likely make a few different schedules
> due to the Indy and Cincy
> situations and yeah the release will probably be
> delayed.
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The UHL will likely make a few different schedules due to the Indy and Cincy
situations and yeah the release will probably be delayed.

At 09:17 AM 7/6/2001 -0400, bladesgal17@... wrote:
>Idaho Steelheads (WCHL)-- Signed goaltender Blair Allison.
>
>Guess Allison didn't like the UHL too much?  Idaho is a good franchise
>though...

I think it's more a case of liking Idaho's coach.  Allison won the Taylor
Cup with Tacoma in the WCHL in 1999, and I believe got WCHL MVP.  John
Olver, the coach of Tacoma that year, is now coaching the Idaho Steelheads,
and coaches a highly developed trap that allows Allison to see _very_
little rubber.  Given that Olver's performance in Idaho has been very
similar to his style in Tacoma (and earlier Fresno), Allison probably knows
what style of play he'll have in front of him, and figures that he would
like to see that little rubber :)


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Idaho Steelheads (WCHL)-- Signed goaltender Blair Allison.

Guess Allison didn't like the UHL too much?  Idaho is a good franchise
though...

Missouri River Otters (UHL)-- Promoted Jeremy Guest to
assistant general manager; named Adam Gabriel director of
business development.

In a message dated 07/02/2001 5:16:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
uhl_list@yahoogroups.com writes:

<< On a different note - I wonder if this will hold up the schedule. Word
  is the 2001-2002 schedule is supposed to be out this week or next.
  Likewise the word so far is that Elmira will host the all star game this
  year. Works for me! I've never been to one, and now I'll get to be an
  off ice official at one. (I'm team statistician for the Jackals.) >>

Well, considering the UHL schedule is generally drafted on an etch a sketch
and likely to change numerous times before the end of the year, I see no
reason why it should.  I thought I had seen one draft out already though....

Maybe not...

> No, actually it can be summed up in two words: Horn Chen.

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No, actually it can be summed up in two words: Horn Chen.

Prob because they thought the CHL would expand their way rather than going
with a merger and expanding in the opposite direction.

Greg Williams
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----- Original Message -----
From: <bladesgal17@...>
To: <uhl_list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 10:55 AM
Subject: [uhl_list] Indianapolis Ice Sue to Join UHL


I never really understood why they didn't just join the UHL in the first
place.

JUNE 29, 18:47 EST

Indianapolis Ice Sue to Join UHL

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — The Indianapolis Ice filed a lawsuit to end a working
agreement with the Central Hockey League in an effort to join the United
Hockey League.

``We've asked to be relieved of the (remaining) three years and terminate
the
agreement,'' Ice general manager Rod Davidson said.

The suit, filed in Marion Superior Court on Wednesday, alleges the CHL
violated its sanctioning agreement with the Ice by merging with the Western
Professional Hockey League.

The Ice has three years remaining in their agreement with the CHL and the
Indianapolis ownership is not permitted to field a team in another league
until 2009, CHL commissioner Tom Berry said.

``They have that and we anticipate and expect that (the Ice) will continue
to
play in this league,'' Berry said. ``That's why it was a bit of a shock that
they wanted to make some changes.''

The CHL's merger with the WPHL, and the restructuring of the CHL has left
Indianapolis with one close geographic rival — the Memphis RiverKings.

``The merge did not offend us or anything,'' Davidson said, ``but it's
making
it costly for travel.''

Berry said the CHL's new divisional alignment will make the Ice's travel
costs the same as in 1999-2000, when Indianapolis won the league title.

Davidson couldn't estimate when the suit against the CHL will be resolved,
but he is working under the assumption that the Ice will be in another
league
this season.

``I think we have to assume that we will get out of the (CHL) and try to
move
on,'' Davidson said. ``This pre-emptive action that was filed should cause
things to move along.''

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I never really understood why they didn't just join the UHL in the first
place.

JUNE 29, 18:47 EST

Indianapolis Ice Sue to Join UHL

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — The Indianapolis Ice filed a lawsuit to end a working
agreement with the Central Hockey League in an effort to join the United
Hockey League.

``We've asked to be relieved of the (remaining) three years and terminate the
agreement,'' Ice general manager Rod Davidson said.

The suit, filed in Marion Superior Court on Wednesday, alleges the CHL
violated its sanctioning agreement with the Ice by merging with the Western
Professional Hockey League.

The Ice has three years remaining in their agreement with the CHL and the
Indianapolis ownership is not permitted to field a team in another league
until 2009, CHL commissioner Tom Berry said.

``They have that and we anticipate and expect that (the Ice) will continue to
play in this league,'' Berry said. ``That's why it was a bit of a shock that
they wanted to make some changes.''

The CHL's merger with the WPHL, and the restructuring of the CHL has left
Indianapolis with one close geographic rival — the Memphis RiverKings.

``The merge did not offend us or anything,'' Davidson said, ``but it's making
it costly for travel.''

Berry said the CHL's new divisional alignment will make the Ice's travel
costs the same as in 1999-2000, when Indianapolis won the league title.

Davidson couldn't estimate when the suit against the CHL will be resolved,
but he is working under the assumption that the Ice will be in another league
this season.

``I think we have to assume that we will get out of the (CHL) and try to move
on,'' Davidson said. ``This pre-emptive action that was filed should cause
things to move along.''