I'm sorry for my multiple posts that came through in the email digest.  I
deleted them online but Yahoo! still sent them in the digest.   It's a good
reminder for me not to return a prior page or reload a page when posting.

12/3 and 12/9 are the correct dates for my webinars.  These are a great
opportunity to pick my brain as both a USAT / USAC certified coach and elite
triathlete (pro card 2007-2009, 2 x sub 9-hour Ironman's) for the cost of
absolutely nothing except for your time.

If you can't attend, I plan to record and will make available online.

For more information and to register, please visit: www.enduranceworks.net
(click on "Clinics & Seminars")

Cheers,
David

--- In trirats@yahoogroups.com, "daveglover" <david.glover@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Friends,
>
> I'm offering two webinars in the next few weeks:
> - 12/3: Planning Your Triathon Season: From A to Z
> - 12/9: Winter Training for Triathletes
>
> There is no cost to register and you can watch and listen from the comfort of
> your home computer.
>
> For more information and to register, please visit: www.enduranceworks.net
> (click on "Clinics & Seminars")
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Glover
> Triathlon Coach
> Web: enduranceworks.net
>

Anyone know anything about Cozumel, there was an Ironman jacket on the plane who
mentioned Cozumel. When ? Route? Anyone from trirats ?

I guess I could google, but I'm too busy soaking up off-season sun here in
Cancun
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Ditto - that's the report my client gave me.  Maybe it was the same guy with
hairy knuckles that grabbed her and pulled her under.



She also mentioned that the lake venue was quite small - which probably led
to the more aggressive behavior?  Why they don't do a two wave start is
beyond me.  Just waiting 3-5 min for a wave to clear out isn't going to make
that much of a difference.



Congrats to both of you - heard the conditions were near to perfect except
for the SLIGHT headwind on part of the course..15mph to 30 mph on the bike.



Debi



From: trirats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:trirats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
emelis@...
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:51 PM
To: Bradley Schultz; trirats@yahoogroups.com; Debi Bernardes
Cc: Chuck Potter; mmtri@yahoogroups.com; CMS - YAHOO Group
Subject: Re: [Tri RATS] IM Arizona...





Don't know what Deb's client reported but having just the swim yesterday I
can say the following :

- Water's quite cool - 62 @ eace start. Had one of my buddies get severe
hypothermia and had be medevac'd when his core body temp and BP crashed big
time

- Water's quite murky and silty so you can't see hand in front of your face
or see the feet of the swimmers in front you (I took a heel to the eye and
my wife took a good hard kick to the diaphragm)

- Sighting difficult as the first 1.2 mile leg is into the rising sun so
this lends itself to people going every whixh way on the course

- Most interestingly and dismaying is that this seemed to be an exceedingly
agressive swim start, even more so than IMLP last year; there were the usual
accidental contacts but my wife had someone intentionally shove her
underwater and I managed to fracture one of my fingers in the crown that
never seemed to clear out; I never had any clear water.

Just my observatios on the swim. My observations on the rst of the race will
be in my race report to follow.

Erik

P.S. As a side note, despite the less than ideal swim conditions, my wife
and I both set new IM pr's - she by and hour and me by an hour twenty-five
over our IMLP times
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Bradley Schultz <budschlitz1@...
<mailto:budschlitz1%40gmail.com> >
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:59:26
To: Debi Bernardes<bernardes@... <mailto:bernardes%40vabb.com> >
Cc: Chuck Potter<chuckp88@... <mailto:chuckp88%40gmail.com> >;
<mmtri@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mmtri%40yahoogroups.com> >;
RATS<trirats@yahoogroups.com <mailto:trirats%40yahoogroups.com> >; CMS -
YAHOO Group<cambmultisport@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:cambmultisport%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: Re: [Tri RATS] IM Arizona...

OK, I'll bite...what about the swim?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Debi Bernardes <bernardes@...
<mailto:bernardes%40vabb.com> > wrote:

>
>
> After hearing from my client about the swim..no thanks!
>
> Good luck you guys!
>
> From: trirats@yahoogroups.com <mailto:trirats%40yahoogroups.com>
<trirats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> trirats@yahoogroups.com <mailto:trirats%40yahoogroups.com>
<trirats%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> Chuck Potter
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:04 AM
> To: mmtri@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mmtri%40yahoogroups.com>
<mmtri%40yahoogroups.com>; RATS; CMS - YAHOO
> Group
> Subject: [Tri RATS] IM Arizona...
>
>
> Michele and I are registering for 2010.....anyone else?
>
> -Chuck
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Don't know what Deb's client reported but having just the swim yesterday I can
say the following :

- Water's quite cool - 62 @ eace start. Had one of my buddies get severe
hypothermia and had be medevac'd when his core body temp and BP crashed big time

- Water's quite murky and silty so you can't see hand in front of your face or
see the feet of the swimmers in front you (I took a heel to the eye and my wife
took a good hard kick to the diaphragm)

- Sighting difficult as the first 1.2 mile leg is into the rising sun so this
lends itself to people going every whixh way on the course

- Most interestingly and dismaying is that this seemed to be an exceedingly
agressive swim start, even more so than IMLP last year; there were the usual
accidental contacts but my wife had someone intentionally shove her underwater
and I managed to fracture one of my fingers in the crown that never seemed to
clear out; I never had any clear water.

Just my observatios on the swim. My observations on the rst of the race will be
in my race report to follow.

Erik

P.S. As a side note, despite the less than ideal swim conditions, my wife and I
both set new IM pr's - she by and hour and me by an hour twenty-five over our
IMLP times
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Bradley Schultz <budschlitz1@...>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:59:26
To: Debi Bernardes<bernardes@...>
Cc: Chuck Potter<chuckp88@...>; <mmtri@yahoogroups.com>;
RATS<trirats@yahoogroups.com>; CMS - YAHOO Group<cambmultisport@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Tri RATS] IM Arizona...

OK, I'll bite...what about the swim?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Debi Bernardes <bernardes@...> wrote:

>
>
> After hearing from my client about the swim..no thanks!
>
> Good luck you guys!
>
> From: trirats@yahoogroups.com <trirats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> trirats@yahoogroups.com <trirats%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> Chuck Potter
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:04 AM
> To: mmtri@yahoogroups.com <mmtri%40yahoogroups.com>; RATS; CMS - YAHOO
> Group
> Subject: [Tri RATS] IM Arizona...
>
>
> Michele and I are registering for 2010.....anyone else?
>
> -Chuck
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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OK, I'll bite...what about the swim?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Debi Bernardes <bernardes@...> wrote:

>
>
> After hearing from my client about the swim..no thanks!
>
> Good luck you guys!
>
> From: trirats@yahoogroups.com <trirats%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> trirats@yahoogroups.com <trirats%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> Chuck Potter
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:04 AM
> To: mmtri@yahoogroups.com <mmtri%40yahoogroups.com>; RATS; CMS - YAHOO
> Group
> Subject: [Tri RATS] IM Arizona...
>
>
> Michele and I are registering for 2010.....anyone else?
>
> -Chuck
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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After hearing from my client about the swim..no thanks!



Good luck you guys!



From: trirats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:trirats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Chuck Potter
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:04 AM
To: mmtri@yahoogroups.com; RATS; CMS - YAHOO Group
Subject: [Tri RATS] IM Arizona...





Michele and I are registering for 2010.....anyone else?

-Chuck

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Michele and I are registering for 2010.....anyone else?

-Chuck


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Awesome Dave,

Good job getting out there. From what I hear, the cross guys like it as muddy as
possible.

A bunch of my teammates race. Some of the race reports are insane. I'm sure I'll
cave to peer pressure soon and buy a cross bike for next year.


Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "daveglover" <david.glover@...>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:33:08
To: <trirats@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Tri RATS] Re: Reston cyclocross race 12/6

I did my first 'cross race this past weekend at Schooley Mill (near Columbia,
MD).  Very different experience than a triathlon (intensity felt like a 10km and
I heard my breathing the entire 40 minutes) and a lot of fun.

I  raced the Cat 4 'C' race, which started at 9 AM.  I had signed up the morning
of the race so had to line up at the back of the pack of 70 or so riders.  The
ground was wet and slippery on the turns. I only fell once and that was into
grass and soft dirt so hopped right back up.  Unfortunately, I broke the right
shifter on the borrowed bike I was riding, which made for a challenge as I could
only shift some of the time, but it was all good.

I can see how 'cross can be addicting.  :)

Cheers,

David Glover
Blog: davidglover.net
Web: enduranceworks.net

--- In trirats@yahoogroups.com, Charles Barnes <charles_a_barnes@...> wrote:
>
>
> Remember bike, then run. You can swim first, of course, but that is optional.
There are 5k and 10k runs virtually every weekend all year round. 'Cross season
is far too short.
>
>
>
> CB
>
>
>
>
> To: trirats@yahoogroups.com
> From: keith_jacobson@...
> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:05:11 +0000
> Subject: [Tri RATS] Re: Reston cyclocross race 12/6
>
>
>
>
>
> Hmmm. Run Reston Fall Into Winter 10K or do the Cat C Race???? I could run the
race and make it over to the Cat 1 race with the camera for race pics. The
ladies (ok, wife and 2 young daughters) will be in NYC that weekend, so I need
to make my kitchen pass count... I have heard about this race from the folks at
Bike Lane and it sound like a great race with a bunch of elites in the past - so
should be fun to at least spectate.
>
> --- In trirats@yahoogroups.com, Charles Barnes <charles_a_barnes@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> >
> >
> > One of the best local cyclocross races will be December 6 at Lake Fairfax.
Unfortuntately, this is one of the last races of the year. I'll be doing the 9am
men's C race which is appropriate for first timers (and those that do this
strictly for fun).
> >
> >
> >
> > The race is also the mid-atlantic championship for the elite racers. The
Cat-1 races will be FAST!
> >
> >
> >
> > If you're at all curious what this cyclocross stuff is all about come on
out. The course will be open by 8am, so if you'd like to ride the course (an MTB
without bar-ends is OK) you'll be able to do so.
> >
> >
> >
> > Race flyer link:
> >
> > http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Here's the link to the course map -- looks like speghetti:
> >
> > http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/CCCimages/2008NEWCCCmap%20copy.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > And, of course, the registration link:
> >
> > http://www.bikereg.com/events/ConfList.asp?EventID=9216
> >
> >
> >
> > You can register race day up to 1hr before each race, if the weather is
iffy.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bring your cowbell. Hope for mud!
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Hi Friends,

I'm offering two webinars in the next few weeks:
- 12/3: Planning Your Triathon Season: From A to Z
- 12/9: Winter Training for Triathletes

There is no cost to register and you can watch and listen from the comfort of
your home computer.

For more information and to register, please visit: www.enduranceworks.net
(click on "Clinics & Seminars")

Best regards,

David Glover
Triathlon Coach
Web: enduranceworks.net

I did my first 'cross race this past weekend at Schooley Mill (near Columbia,
MD).  Very different experience than a triathlon (intensity felt like a 10km and
I heard my breathing the entire 40 minutes) and a lot of fun.

I  raced the Cat 4 'C' race, which started at 9 AM.  I had signed up the morning
of the race so had to line up at the back of the pack of 70 or so riders.  The
ground was wet and slippery on the turns. I only fell once and that was into
grass and soft dirt so hopped right back up.  Unfortunately, I broke the right
shifter on the borrowed bike I was riding, which made for a challenge as I could
only shift some of the time, but it was all good.

I can see how 'cross can be addicting.  :)

Cheers,

David Glover
Blog: davidglover.net
Web: enduranceworks.net

--- In trirats@yahoogroups.com, Charles Barnes <charles_a_barnes@...> wrote:
>
>
> Remember bike, then run. You can swim first, of course, but that is optional.
There are 5k and 10k runs virtually every weekend all year round. 'Cross season
is far too short.
>
>
>
> CB
>
>
>
>
> To: trirats@yahoogroups.com
> From: keith_jacobson@...
> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:05:11 +0000
> Subject: [Tri RATS] Re: Reston cyclocross race 12/6
>
>
>
>
>
> Hmmm. Run Reston Fall Into Winter 10K or do the Cat C Race???? I could run the
race and make it over to the Cat 1 race with the camera for race pics. The
ladies (ok, wife and 2 young daughters) will be in NYC that weekend, so I need
to make my kitchen pass count... I have heard about this race from the folks at
Bike Lane and it sound like a great race with a bunch of elites in the past - so
should be fun to at least spectate.
>
> --- In trirats@yahoogroups.com, Charles Barnes <charles_a_barnes@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> >
> >
> > One of the best local cyclocross races will be December 6 at Lake Fairfax.
Unfortuntately, this is one of the last races of the year. I'll be doing the 9am
men's C race which is appropriate for first timers (and those that do this
strictly for fun).
> >
> >
> >
> > The race is also the mid-atlantic championship for the elite racers. The
Cat-1 races will be FAST!
> >
> >
> >
> > If you're at all curious what this cyclocross stuff is all about come on
out. The course will be open by 8am, so if you'd like to ride the course (an MTB
without bar-ends is OK) you'll be able to do so.
> >
> >
> >
> > Race flyer link:
> >
> > http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Here's the link to the course map -- looks like speghetti:
> >
> > http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/CCCimages/2008NEWCCCmap%20copy.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > And, of course, the registration link:
> >
> > http://www.bikereg.com/events/ConfList.asp?EventID=9216
> >
> >
> >
> > You can register race day up to 1hr before each race, if the weather is
iffy.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bring your cowbell. Hope for mud!
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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I hear ya.  But riding out here in the 'burbs scares me enough with the cagers. 
I am terrified of riding in the city!  Hmm, then again, maybe city drivers would
actually be better than the burbs...

--- In trirats@yahoogroups.com, "Rich Gendron" <rggendro@...> wrote:
>
> Keith,
>
> Running is sooooo overrated
>
> (Ok, I admit sour grapes)
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "keithjake" <keith_jacobson@...>
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:50:38
> To: <trirats@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Tri RATS] Running in DC - Cool.
>
> I moved to the East Coast 13+ years ago and worked in Dupont Circle for a
year. The past 2 Saturdays while my daughter has been attending a class I have
discovered more about the city than all the years combined! BTW, running on Rock
Creek Parkway is GREAT!  I wish I actually lived in the city when I moved here
from CO - maybe I would have been more of a runner.  OK, probably not.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Home Depot has a head lamp for $4.97 that mounts up well enough on a bike
helmet.  In NO WAY does it compete with one of the dedicated bike helmet lights,
but if you don't have one nor have >$100 to spend on one, then this might be a
good addition to your light setup!  They are Husky brand 1 Watt LED Headlamp
(Item # 317047).  The light has a strap that goes up over the helmet in addition
to around it.  To be fair it is not waterproof and I do not count on its life
expectancy being all that high, but the price is right.  It also is adjustable
up and down.  FWIW, I compared it to my Petzl Tikka Plus and the Husky has MORE
light output (I was surprised).  As of this AM there were at least 3 left at the
Reston HD - located in a light display near the 'contractors' checkout.

Keith,

Running is sooooo overrated

(Ok, I admit sour grapes)
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "keithjake" <keith_jacobson@...>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:50:38
To: <trirats@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Tri RATS] Running in DC - Cool.

I moved to the East Coast 13+ years ago and worked in Dupont Circle for a year.
The past 2 Saturdays while my daughter has been attending a class I have
discovered more about the city than all the years combined! BTW, running on Rock
Creek Parkway is GREAT!  I wish I actually lived in the city when I moved here
from CO - maybe I would have been more of a runner.  OK, probably not.




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Awesome area.  I used to work there back in '94 and '95.  I miss living in
the city.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM, keithjake <keith_jacobson@...> wrote:

>
>
> I moved to the East Coast 13+ years ago and worked in Dupont Circle for a
> year. The past 2 Saturdays while my daughter has been attending a class I
> have discovered more about the city than all the years combined! BTW,
> running on Rock Creek Parkway is GREAT! I wish I actually lived in the city
> when I moved here from CO - maybe I would have been more of a runner. OK,
> probably not.
>
>
>



--
With Regards:

Kevin Kunkel


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I moved to the East Coast 13+ years ago and worked in Dupont Circle for a year.
The past 2 Saturdays while my daughter has been attending a class I have
discovered more about the city than all the years combined! BTW, running on Rock
Creek Parkway is GREAT!  I wish I actually lived in the city when I moved here
from CO - maybe I would have been more of a runner.  OK, probably not.

doubtful.  It coincided with the ITU series which is NOT coming back to DC.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Lindsay Epstein <dolphin_seal@...>wrote:

>
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone had heard if they were planning on holding the
> Dextro Energy tri in DC again next year.  I know they planned it in 6 weeks
> last summer, but would really like to start planning next season now.
>
> Lindsay
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
With Regards:

Kevin Kunkel


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Last I looked it is not on the ITU schedule for 2010 (total bummer).



Debi



From: trirats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:trirats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Lindsay Epstein
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:23 PM
To: trirats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Tri RATS] Dextro Energy Tri






I was wondering if anyone had heard if they were planning on holding the
Dextro Energy tri in DC again next year.  I know they planned it in 6 weeks
last summer, but would really like to start planning next season now.

Lindsay

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Last I checked DC wasn't on the circuit this year for ITU, so I thought we
wouldn't have the race.  Who knows though, maybe they will put it together
without the Dextro/ITU support.

I remember hearing that putting on a race in DC for ITU of that caliber was too
expensive and had too many barriers (federal/city permits, no ready made
international cable provider to tape and cast the video, not enough money coming
from the city and sponsors, etc.)




________________________________
From: Lindsay Epstein <dolphin_seal@...>
To: trirats@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 1:23:14 PM
Subject: [Tri RATS] Dextro Energy Tri

 

I was wondering if anyone had heard if they were planning on holding the Dextro
Energy tri in DC again next year.  I know they planned it in 6 weeks last
summer, but would really like to start planning next season now.
 
Lindsay

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This is an event my tri coaching company and the shop I work at are putting on.
I have personal experience with the fitter and he's incredible.

Jen Tallman
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: jen@...
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:01:32
To: Jen Tallman<jmo1928@...>
Subject: Fw: [Bike Rack Multisport Team] Professional Bike Fitting at The Bike
Rack...


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck <chuck@...>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:00:04
To: The Bike Rack of Washington DC MultiSport
Team<bikerackmultisport@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [Bike Rack Multisport Team] Professional Bike Fitting at The Bike
	 Rack...

The Bike Rack and ATP Endurance Systems Announce: BIKE FIT WEEKEND

World class bike fitter, Bob Duncan of Veritas Fit Systems and Bob
Duncan Racing is offering his services at The Bike Rack on Saturday,
December 5 from 10-6 and Sunday, Dec 6 from 10-5.

Bob has been involved in competitive cycling, triathlon and multi-
sport since 1983, as an athlete, coach, shop owner, custom bike
builder, and bike fitter.  He ran Ohio's premier multi-sport shop,
Wheelie Fun, from 1999 to 2009, and has recently passed the reigns of
that operation so that he can bring his custom bike fitting systems to
the rest of us.

Bob is the inventor and owner of Veritas Fit Systems.  He has done
over 9,000 road and triathlon bike fittings including 6 national
triathlon age group champions, 1 national road race champion, 2
Ironman age group champions, 1 Ironman age group world champion,
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summer, but would really like to start planning next season now.
 
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TOTALLY AMAZING!! Congratulations, Jack!!  You are unbelievable.

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Subject: [Tri RATS] Ironman Florida Race Report (long and self-indulgent)

The early miles of the bike are supposed to be the fun part, right?  Something
was wrong.  My shoulders and neck ached and I was chafing between my
legs.  Even
my forearms couldn’t seem to get comfortable on the elbow pads. It never
felt like this in training.  There wasn’t a single second when I didn’t want
to sit up.  Screw aero--I’ll be a barn door into the wind to avoid one more
minute in this god-forsaken position.  Every bump in the bad roads felt like
a kick in the crotch and every time I looked down and my my bike computer
read 16 mph, my morale sagged.  This wasn’t the noble suffering of an epic
athletic event.  This was just a pain in the ass.  I wasn’t an Ironman.  I
was a whiner.

The day hadn’t begun badly.  I had come out of the water slightly slow, but
felt fine.  The seas had been a bit rough, but it hadn’t been anything
serious.  I had started way wide on the beach and managed to avoid most of
the traffic.  It was smooth sailing, even if it was a bit depressing to get
kicked by so many big guys doing the breast stroke.  Shouldn’t I be faster
than them?

A 1:18 swim split wasn’t a disaster, but combined with a T1 made long by
having to run much farther than years past and by a porta-potty break, it
left me behind my sub-11 schedule, and the schedule was the only thing that
was keeping me down in my aero position, riding miserably and slowly into
the headwinds on endless Florida highways.  This sucked.

I had no answer to my negative self-talk.  It had been like that for days.  I
had been a bundle of nerves and pessimism since arriving in Panama City
Beach.  There were plenty of pre-fab excuses, ready for me to imagine
making, post-race.  The swim was choppier.  The bike, windier.  The
temperature, a few degrees hotter.  Everyone’s times would be slower.  I had
had a plan, but I wasn’t sure I had ever really believed in it.

The plan, in fact, had been clear from the day after IMFL 2008.  If I could
just duplicate my 1:15 swim and 3:36 run splits, all I had to do was bike
fifteen minutes faster to break 11:00.   But the plan had presumed a repeat
of last year’s perfect conditions.  And it had presumed my crotch wouldn’t
be screaming in pain at mile 40.

The cruel irony was that I had been banking on a great bike.  The new tri
bike would give me a chunk of improvement for free, and the bike-focus I’d
had all year should easily give me the remaining minutes.  I had spent last
winter on the trainer, sweating puddles on my floor with only Coach Troy’s
Spinervals and a podcast called The Sufferfest for company.  I had been
outside climbing Massanutten in numbingly cold February weather and putting
in mileage, soaked by March’s constant rainstorms.  I’d done six or seven
century rides over the summer, 40k tt’s in JMU’s exercise physiology lab,
and epics like the century stage of the Tour de Burg and Mountain Mama. I
had to be in the best bike shape of my life, right?

But that’s what I had thought before Ironman Louisville 11 weeks before.  On
that day, an over optimistic bike and a lack of run training caused one of
the biggest crashes of my life: a 4:20 marathon that was sheer
torture.  Louisville
cast a long shadow over the lead-up to Florida and all the way to the 70
mile mark of the bike course.  I was pacing myself by HR to avoid the
mistakes of Louisville, but my splits were too, too slow.  I was already
telling myself that I should be happy with anything under last year’s
time—11:15—and expecting more had probably been hubris.

Five hours into the race, I tapped my last big treat: the first of six
Viverin that I would take on the hour through hour ten.  I wasn’t
optimistic, though: 200mg of caffeine might be able to bring my legs back to
life, but it wasn’t going to make me any more comfortable or relieve the
ache that went from my lower back down my glutes and all the way down the
adductor tendons along my inner thighs..  Soon afterwards, I went over the
one timing mat on the bike course and I stopped at the same aid station as
last year.  I’d hoped they’d have some Vaseline handy, but they couldn’t
find it while I was in the porta-potty, so I headed on my way.

When I got back on my bike and began the last 42 miles back to town, though,
the tide turned.  Suddenly it was like another race: I’d stopped in the
middle of a nightmare and woke up in a dream.  The wind was to our back; the
roads were long, gentle downhills; and we turned onto pavement that had been
resurfaced so recently that ours were the first wheels to touch its virgin
surface.  I was flying, frequently holding >22mph for long periods of time
with no spikes of heart rate or effort.

Gradually, the math began to change.  Instead of leaving transition at 7:30
and needing a big PR in the marathon to break 11:00, I began to think I
might leave T2 at 7:20 or maybe even better.  I would only have to duplicate
my marathon split from last year, not exceed it.  I was back on plan, but
the memory of crashing and burning in Louisville was fresh, and I knew
nothing was guaranteed.

The last straightaway into T2 was crowded but I cruised in comfortably,
letting my legs get ready for the run and taking in the last of my
nutrition.  I’d had consumed nothing but Perpetuum, a Hammer bar, my
original bottle of Heed, water and electrolyte capsules.  It had worked well
up to this point, but the true test was ahead of me.  I’d never had an IM
marathon free of GI issues, but I’d never this good before, either.

T2 was smooth.  I had everything except my racebelt in a ziplock freezer
bag, so I was able to get out of T2 quickly and deal with my hat, my
nutrition flasks and bottle, and my stashes of electrolyte capsules and
viverin while I was running.  I exited T2 at 7:15, a far better outcome than
I’d dared hope for.  Everything was simple: 3:45 to run the marathon.  That
was something like an 8:20/mi, right?  It was a struggle to stay slow enough
during the early miles.  I felt good—not great—but good.  I soaked in the
crowds, found a good rhythm and tried to stay positive, but I also
remembered how it had snuck up on me in Louisville and how a serious bonk
can lurk around any corner.

Around mile 7, in the State Park, the lead woman passed me, which was fun.
She was at mile 19 or so, so she was going pretty slow (for her) and I was
still fresh enough to be going pretty fast (given my projected pace), so it
took her a while to pass me.  It was fun to have the lead bike and the
cameraman on the motorcycle with me for a while.

The miles weren’t easy.  I was seriously focused.  I don’t remember much. 
My
nutrition went smoothly—no GI issues and a constant intake of nutrition
(100% Hammer Perpetuum) throughout the whole race.  I kept hitting good
miles and thought just one thing: sub-11:00.  The miles at the end of the
first lap and the beginning of the second were great.  The crowds gave a
huge boost.  Heading out again, though, it got real serious real fast.  I
had two hours to run the second half: plenty of time if I could stay on
pace, but in Louisville I’d gone much slower.  The residential neighborhood
was lonely and long.  It was getting dark and I began to bribe myself with
ridiculous treats like taking off my sunglasses or stopping in a porta potty
at various mile markers.  I hit 20 miles and let myself do the math: I had
something like 1:06 to run the last 10k.  I crossed the last timing mat and
thought of my friends tracking my progress.  They would know I was going to
make it.  I imagined them being happy for me and tried to absorb some of
that energy from afar.

I just had to hold it together.  My attention was crystallized on the task.
  I remember very, very little.  It wasn’t my most painful race—I’d pushed
myself far deeper into pain in other races—but there’s no escaping the
suffering in an IM.  Night came early in November, after daylight savings
time and on the far eastern edge of the central time zone, and the darkness
wasn’t any fun.

During those miles, I had imaginary conversations with my training partners,
friends and kids to keep me going.  I remembered all the times my riding
buddies had come back for me when I’d been dropped, and how, no matter how
bad it felt, I had to get on their wheel and close the distance back up to
the peleton.  I imagined those guys pulling me through the bleak, lonely
residential neighborhood.  I thought of friends who were, at that very
moment, in front of their computers waiting for me to finish.   And even as
I knew sub-11 was mine, there’s no hiding from how hard it is to push your
body over 140.6 miles.

At mile 25, it started to get good.  The crowds were thicker and though I
was desperate to be done, I was also soaking it in.  I was giving high fives
and there was a spring in my step.  Around the last corner and onto the
finishing stretch, I was ecstatic.  I don’t think I’ve ever been happier at
the end of a race.  Someone was finishing in front of me and I slowed down
in the finish chute to let him finish alone, but he slowed down even more
and I was so excited that I ended up trailing him a little closer than I had
planned.  I normally fall into the arms of my catcher, but this time I
startled him with a big hug and a joyful punch.  I practically dancing
through the finish area and was already munching on some grapes when Mike
Reilly was urging in the last of the sub-11 finishers.

It’s not like I wasn’t a bit roughed up.  I doubled over and dry heaved when
I first tried to eat half a banana and my hamstrings cramped up when I tried
to get up from sitting, but nothing could diminish my elation.  It was as
close to a perfect day as I could have imagined.  I don’t think I could have
paced out my effort any better: my last miles were slow—I had nothing
left—but the plan had worked and I had smashed my goal.



Splits:

Swim: 1:18

Bike: 5:42

Run: 3:35

Finish time: 10:50


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The early miles of the bike are supposed to be the fun part, right?  Something
was wrong.  My shoulders and neck ached and I was chafing between my
legs.  Even
my forearms couldn’t seem to get comfortable on the elbow pads. It never
felt like this in training.  There wasn’t a single second when I didn’t want
to sit up.  Screw aero--I’ll be a barn door into the wind to avoid one more
minute in this god-forsaken position.  Every bump in the bad roads felt like
a kick in the crotch and every time I looked down and my my bike computer
read 16 mph, my morale sagged.  This wasn’t the noble suffering of an epic
athletic event.  This was just a pain in the ass.  I wasn’t an Ironman.  I
was a whiner.

The day hadn’t begun badly.  I had come out of the water slightly slow, but
felt fine.  The seas had been a bit rough, but it hadn’t been anything
serious.  I had started way wide on the beach and managed to avoid most of
the traffic.  It was smooth sailing, even if it was a bit depressing to get
kicked by so many big guys doing the breast stroke.  Shouldn’t I be faster
than them?

A 1:18 swim split wasn’t a disaster, but combined with a T1 made long by
having to run much farther than years past and by a porta-potty break, it
left me behind my sub-11 schedule, and the schedule was the only thing that
was keeping me down in my aero position, riding miserably and slowly into
the headwinds on endless Florida highways.  This sucked.

I had no answer to my negative self-talk.  It had been like that for days.  I
had been a bundle of nerves and pessimism since arriving in Panama City
Beach.  There were plenty of pre-fab excuses, ready for me to imagine
making, post-race.  The swim was choppier.  The bike, windier.  The
temperature, a few degrees hotter.  Everyone’s times would be slower.  I had
had a plan, but I wasn’t sure I had ever really believed in it.

The plan, in fact, had been clear from the day after IMFL 2008.  If I could
just duplicate my 1:15 swim and 3:36 run splits, all I had to do was bike
fifteen minutes faster to break 11:00.   But the plan had presumed a repeat
of last year’s perfect conditions.  And it had presumed my crotch wouldn’t
be screaming in pain at mile 40.

The cruel irony was that I had been banking on a great bike.  The new tri
bike would give me a chunk of improvement for free, and the bike-focus I’d
had all year should easily give me the remaining minutes.  I had spent last
winter on the trainer, sweating puddles on my floor with only Coach Troy’s
Spinervals and a podcast called The Sufferfest for company.  I had been
outside climbing Massanutten in numbingly cold February weather and putting
in mileage, soaked by March’s constant rainstorms.  I’d done six or seven
century rides over the summer, 40k tt’s in JMU’s exercise physiology lab,
and epics like the century stage of the Tour de Burg and Mountain Mama. I
had to be in the best bike shape of my life, right?

But that’s what I had thought before Ironman Louisville 11 weeks before.  On
that day, an over optimistic bike and a lack of run training caused one of
the biggest crashes of my life: a 4:20 marathon that was sheer
torture.  Louisville
cast a long shadow over the lead-up to Florida and all the way to the 70
mile mark of the bike course.  I was pacing myself by HR to avoid the
mistakes of Louisville, but my splits were too, too slow.  I was already
telling myself that I should be happy with anything under last year’s
time—11:15—and expecting more had probably been hubris.

Five hours into the race, I tapped my last big treat: the first of six
Viverin that I would take on the hour through hour ten.  I wasn’t
optimistic, though: 200mg of caffeine might be able to bring my legs back to
life, but it wasn’t going to make me any more comfortable or relieve the
ache that went from my lower back down my glutes and all the way down the
adductor tendons along my inner thighs..  Soon afterwards, I went over the
one timing mat on the bike course and I stopped at the same aid station as
last year.  I’d hoped they’d have some Vaseline handy, but they couldn’t
find it while I was in the porta-potty, so I headed on my way.

When I got back on my bike and began the last 42 miles back to town, though,
the tide turned.  Suddenly it was like another race: I’d stopped in the
middle of a nightmare and woke up in a dream.  The wind was to our back; the
roads were long, gentle downhills; and we turned onto pavement that had been
resurfaced so recently that ours were the first wheels to touch its virgin
surface.  I was flying, frequently holding >22mph for long periods of time
with no spikes of heart rate or effort.

Gradually, the math began to change.  Instead of leaving transition at 7:30
and needing a big PR in the marathon to break 11:00, I began to think I
might leave T2 at 7:20 or maybe even better.  I would only have to duplicate
my marathon split from last year, not exceed it.  I was back on plan, but
the memory of crashing and burning in Louisville was fresh, and I knew
nothing was guaranteed.

The last straightaway into T2 was crowded but I cruised in comfortably,
letting my legs get ready for the run and taking in the last of my
nutrition.  I’d had consumed nothing but Perpetuum, a Hammer bar, my
original bottle of Heed, water and electrolyte capsules.  It had worked well
up to this point, but the true test was ahead of me.  I’d never had an IM
marathon free of GI issues, but I’d never this good before, either.

T2 was smooth.  I had everything except my racebelt in a ziplock freezer
bag, so I was able to get out of T2 quickly and deal with my hat, my
nutrition flasks and bottle, and my stashes of electrolyte capsules and
viverin while I was running.  I exited T2 at 7:15, a far better outcome than
I’d dared hope for.  Everything was simple: 3:45 to run the marathon.  That
was something like an 8:20/mi, right?  It was a struggle to stay slow enough
during the early miles.  I felt good—not great—but good.  I soaked in the
crowds, found a good rhythm and tried to stay positive, but I also
remembered how it had snuck up on me in Louisville and how a serious bonk
can lurk around any corner.

Around mile 7, in the State Park, the lead woman passed me, which was fun.
She was at mile 19 or so, so she was going pretty slow (for her) and I was
still fresh enough to be going pretty fast (given my projected pace), so it
took her a while to pass me.  It was fun to have the lead bike and the
cameraman on the motorcycle with me for a while.

The miles weren’t easy.  I was seriously focused.  I don’t remember much.  My
nutrition went smoothly—no GI issues and a constant intake of nutrition
(100% Hammer Perpetuum) throughout the whole race.  I kept hitting good
miles and thought just one thing: sub-11:00.  The miles at the end of the
first lap and the beginning of the second were great.  The crowds gave a
huge boost.  Heading out again, though, it got real serious real fast.  I
had two hours to run the second half: plenty of time if I could stay on
pace, but in Louisville I’d gone much slower.  The residential neighborhood
was lonely and long.  It was getting dark and I began to bribe myself with
ridiculous treats like taking off my sunglasses or stopping in a porta potty
at various mile markers.  I hit 20 miles and let myself do the math: I had
something like 1:06 to run the last 10k.  I crossed the last timing mat and
thought of my friends tracking my progress.  They would know I was going to
make it.  I imagined them being happy for me and tried to absorb some of
that energy from afar.

I just had to hold it together.  My attention was crystallized on the task.
  I remember very, very little.  It wasn’t my most painful race—I’d pushed
myself far deeper into pain in other races—but there’s no escaping the
suffering in an IM.  Night came early in November, after daylight savings
time and on the far eastern edge of the central time zone, and the darkness
wasn’t any fun.

During those miles, I had imaginary conversations with my training partners,
friends and kids to keep me going.  I remembered all the times my riding
buddies had come back for me when I’d been dropped, and how, no matter how
bad it felt, I had to get on their wheel and close the distance back up to
the peleton.  I imagined those guys pulling me through the bleak, lonely
residential neighborhood.  I thought of friends who were, at that very
moment, in front of their computers waiting for me to finish.   And even as
I knew sub-11 was mine, there’s no hiding from how hard it is to push your
body over 140.6 miles.

At mile 25, it started to get good.  The crowds were thicker and though I
was desperate to be done, I was also soaking it in.  I was giving high fives
and there was a spring in my step.  Around the last corner and onto the
finishing stretch, I was ecstatic.  I don’t think I’ve ever been happier at
the end of a race.  Someone was finishing in front of me and I slowed down
in the finish chute to let him finish alone, but he slowed down even more
and I was so excited that I ended up trailing him a little closer than I had
planned.  I normally fall into the arms of my catcher, but this time I
startled him with a big hug and a joyful punch.  I practically dancing
through the finish area and was already munching on some grapes when Mike
Reilly was urging in the last of the sub-11 finishers.

It’s not like I wasn’t a bit roughed up.  I doubled over and dry heaved when
I first tried to eat half a banana and my hamstrings cramped up when I tried
to get up from sitting, but nothing could diminish my elation.  It was as
close to a perfect day as I could have imagined.  I don’t think I could have
paced out my effort any better: my last miles were slow—I had nothing
left—but the plan had worked and I had smashed my goal.



Splits:

Swim: 1:18

Bike: 5:42

Run: 3:35

Finish time: 10:50


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Remember bike, then run. You can swim first, of course, but that is optional.
There are 5k and 10k runs virtually every weekend all year round. 'Cross season
is far too short.



CB




To: trirats@yahoogroups.com
From: keith_jacobson@...
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:05:11 +0000
Subject: [Tri RATS] Re: Reston cyclocross race 12/6





Hmmm. Run Reston Fall Into Winter 10K or do the Cat C Race???? I could run the
race and make it over to the Cat 1 race with the camera for race pics. The
ladies (ok, wife and 2 young daughters) will be in NYC that weekend, so I need
to make my kitchen pass count... I have heard about this race from the folks at
Bike Lane and it sound like a great race with a bunch of elites in the past - so
should be fun to at least spectate.

--- In trirats@yahoogroups.com, Charles Barnes <charles_a_barnes@...> wrote:
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> One of the best local cyclocross races will be December 6 at Lake Fairfax.
Unfortuntately, this is one of the last races of the year. I'll be doing the 9am
men's C race which is appropriate for first timers (and those that do this
strictly for fun).
>
>
>
> The race is also the mid-atlantic championship for the elite racers. The Cat-1
races will be FAST!
>
>
>
> If you're at all curious what this cyclocross stuff is all about come on out.
The course will be open by 8am, so if you'd like to ride the course (an MTB
without bar-ends is OK) you'll be able to do so.
>
>
>
> Race flyer link:
>
> http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/index.html
>
>
>
> Here's the link to the course map -- looks like speghetti:
>
> http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/CCCimages/2008NEWCCCmap%20copy.jpg
>
>
>
> And, of course, the registration link:
>
> http://www.bikereg.com/events/ConfList.asp?EventID=9216
>
>
>
> You can register race day up to 1hr before each race, if the weather is iffy.
>
>
>
> Bring your cowbell. Hope for mud!
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hmmm. Run Reston Fall Into Winter 10K or do the Cat C Race????  I could run the
race and make it over to the Cat 1 race with the camera for race pics.  The
ladies (ok, wife and 2 young daughters) will be in NYC that weekend, so I need
to make my kitchen pass count...  I have heard about this race from the folks at
Bike Lane and it sound like a great race with a bunch of elites in the past - so
should be fun to at least spectate.

--- In trirats@yahoogroups.com, Charles Barnes <charles_a_barnes@...> wrote:
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> One of the best local cyclocross races will be December 6 at Lake Fairfax.
Unfortuntately, this is one of the last races of the year. I'll be doing the 9am
men's C race which is appropriate for first timers (and those that do this
strictly for fun).
>
>
>
> The race is also the mid-atlantic championship for the elite racers. The Cat-1
races will be FAST!
>
>
>
> If you're at all curious what this cyclocross stuff is all about come on out.
The course will be open by 8am, so if you'd like to ride the course (an MTB
without bar-ends is OK) you'll be able to do so.
>
>
>
> Race flyer link:
>
> http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/index.html
>
>
>
> Here's the link to the course map -- looks like speghetti:
>
> http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/CCCimages/2008NEWCCCmap%20copy.jpg
>
>
>
> And, of course, the registration link:
>
> http://www.bikereg.com/events/ConfList.asp?EventID=9216
>
>
>
> You can register race day up to 1hr before each race, if the weather is iffy.
>
>
>
> Bring your cowbell. Hope for mud!
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

All,



One of the best local cyclocross races will be December 6 at Lake Fairfax.
Unfortuntately, this is one of the last races of the year. I'll be doing the 9am
men's C race which is appropriate for first timers (and those that do this
strictly for fun).



The race is also the mid-atlantic championship for the elite racers. The Cat-1
races will be FAST!



If you're at all curious what this cyclocross stuff is all about come on out.
The course will be open by 8am, so if you'd like to ride the course (an MTB
without bar-ends is OK) you'll be able to do so.



Race flyer link:

http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/index.html



Here's the link to the course map -- looks like speghetti:

http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/ccc/CCCimages/2008NEWCCCmap%20copy.jpg



And, of course, the registration link:

http://www.bikereg.com/events/ConfList.asp?EventID=9216



You can register race day up to 1hr before each race, if the weather is iffy.



Bring your cowbell. Hope for mud!

Charlie




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I thought I was the second Doug....who knew.

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Debi Bernardes <bernardes@...> wrote:

From: Debi Bernardes <bernardes@...>
Subject: RE: [Tri RATS] Off topic: In need of a lawyer!
To: "'David Flynn'" <swingandhustle@...>, dmrostant@..., "'Douglas K.
Landau'" <doug@...>
Cc: jmo1928@..., trirats@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 2:22 PM







 









       I second Doug.



From: trirats@yahoogroups .com [mailto:trirats@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of

David Flynn

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:41 AM

To: dmrostant@aol. com; Douglas K. Landau

Cc: jmo1928@yahoo. com; trirats@yahoogroups .com

Subject: Re: [Tri RATS] Off topic: In need of a lawyer!



Gosh Guys - call the guy we ALL know and love - the athletes lawer - Doug

Landau



On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, <dmrostant@aol. com

<mailto:dmrostant% 40aol.com> > wrote:



>

>

>

> jen - michele bertoli cain is a local atty who does a fair amount of

> dental malpractice. her url is

> _http://www.bartolic ainlaw.com_ (http://www.bartolic ainlaw.com)

>

> donna rostant

>

> In a message dated 11/18/2009 10:20:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> jmo1928@yahoo. com <mailto:jmo1928% 40yahoo.com>  <jmo1928%40yahoo. com>

writes:

>

> Is anyone out there a lawyer who might deal with cases of dental

> malpractice? Or does anyone know of a lawyer who would take a case like

> this?

>

> My dentist just did a root canal on the incorrect tooth and then lied,

> tried to cover it up AND charge me for it. Please email me directly.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Jen

> _jmo1928@yahoo. jmo <mailto:_jmo1928% 40yahoo.jmo>  <_jmo1928%40yahoo. jmo>_

(mailto:jmo1928@yahoo. com <mailto:jmo1928% 40yahoo.com>

<jmo1928%40yahoo. com>)

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>



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I second Doug.



From: trirats@yahoogroups.com [mailto:trirats@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
David Flynn
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:41 AM
To: dmrostant@...; Douglas K. Landau
Cc: jmo1928@...; trirats@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Tri RATS] Off topic: In need of a lawyer!





Gosh Guys - call the guy we ALL know and love - the athletes lawer - Doug
Landau

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, <dmrostant@...
<mailto:dmrostant%40aol.com> > wrote:

>
>
>
> jen - michele bertoli cain is a local atty who does a fair amount of
> dental malpractice. her url is
> _http://www.bartolicainlaw.com_ (http://www.bartolicainlaw.com)
>
> donna rostant
>
> In a message dated 11/18/2009 10:20:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jmo1928@... <mailto:jmo1928%40yahoo.com>  <jmo1928%40yahoo.com>
writes:
>
> Is anyone out there a lawyer who might deal with cases of dental
> malpractice? Or does anyone know of a lawyer who would take a case like
> this?
>
> My dentist just did a root canal on the incorrect tooth and then lied,
> tried to cover it up AND charge me for it. Please email me directly.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jen
> _jmo1928@... <mailto:_jmo1928%40yahoo.jmo>  <_jmo1928%40yahoo.jmo>_
(mailto:jmo1928@... <mailto:jmo1928%40yahoo.com>
<jmo1928%40yahoo.com>)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Gosh Guys - call the guy we ALL know and love - the athletes lawer - Doug
Landau

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM, <dmrostant@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> jen - michele bertoli cain is a local atty who does a fair amount of
> dental malpractice. her url is
> _http://www.bartolicainlaw.com_ (http://www.bartolicainlaw.com)
>
> donna rostant
>
> In a message dated 11/18/2009 10:20:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jmo1928@... <jmo1928%40yahoo.com> writes:
>
> Is anyone out there a lawyer who might deal with cases of dental
> malpractice? Or does anyone know of a lawyer who would take a case like
> this?
>
> My dentist just did a root canal on the incorrect tooth and then lied,
> tried to cover it up AND charge me for it. Please email me directly.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jen
> _jmo1928@... <_jmo1928%40yahoo.jmo>_
(mailto:jmo1928@...<jmo1928%40yahoo.com>)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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I've thought long and hard about this, and I have decided to sell my beloved
race bike, since her replacement is now painted and on its way back to the
builder.

She's a 47cm, 2007 Scott Speedster Contessa (their women's model)... 105 front
and rear derailleurs, 105 cassette 12/27, TruVativ Elita crankset with triple
chainring setup, Ultegra short reach integrated shifter/brake levers, 700c
wheels, Profile Design T2 Aeorbars, and 2 saddle options (stock saddle or
currently installed Terry Damselfly...

ALL NEW brake & shift cables and housing, new bottom bracket, new cassette and
chain, new large chainring...

I'm a bicycle mechanic, so this bike has been tuned and maintained as if it
belonged to a pro.

I'm asking $1000 (paid nearly $1500), AND I'm throwing in free labor on any
repairs or maintenance! (worth hundreds of dollars if you tune regularly)

Email me directly!

- Jen Tallman
jmo1928@...