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----- Original Message -----

From: kim

To: training-horses@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:22 PM

Subject: [training-horses] trailering

My 2 year old stud colt has been trailered 6-8 times and this last time
it took us over 2 hours to get him loaded. He had always been a little
hesitant but this time was really bad.

We were at a park trail riding and could not wait any longer to get
him. Finally some other riders were there and more or less helped us
push him right in. It was almost dark and we couldn't wait any longer.

We had tried everything-exercising him outside the trailer, put a buddy
in first, applying steady pressure and then releasing, etc. etc.

Does anyone else have any suggestions for us? We are going to feed him
this week in the trailer when we go grain the horses. We had grain
with us that day but it still didn't help.

Kim

My 2 year old stud colt has been trailered 6-8 times and this last time
it took us over 2 hours to get him loaded.  He had always been a little
hesitant but this time was really bad.

We were at a park trail riding and could not wait any longer to get
him.  Finally some other riders were there and more or less helped us
push him right in.  It was almost dark and we couldn't wait any longer.

We had tried everything-exercising him outside the trailer, put a buddy
in first, applying steady pressure and then releasing, etc. etc.

Does anyone else have any suggestions for us?  We are going to feed him
this week in the trailer when we go grain the horses.  We had grain
with us that day but it still didn't help.

Kim

----- Original Message -----

From: Shelley Strain

To: training-horses@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:02 PM

Subject: Re: [training-horses] Oops. Forgot the pix

He's adorable.  Congratulations!!

Shelley

On 8/15/07, Jean Obrist <innisfreehorses@hughes.net > wrote:

 

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--- In training-horses@yahoogroups.com, Anne Maehle
<annemaehle2001@...> wrote:Its training/riding only no stall
cleaning.I hope they pay the trip,im waiting for news.
>
> Malaga is a very nice town, do have a house just south of there.
1000Euro with house, you can live good on that in Andalucia, Malaga
is in Andalucia. If you want some real good exsperiance then do it.
Do they pay the trip ? What kind of job are you going to do for
them ? Train horses, clean stalls or what.......
>   Anne M
>
> equestrianme <equestrianme@...> wrote:
>           -it is in Malaga? Other jobs seem to be paying about
1000 euros a
> month ,so maybe i should ask for a bit more than that?????
>
> -- In training-horses@yahoogroups.com, Anne Maehle
> <annemaehle2001@> wrote:
> >
> > As fare as I know, not very much. I was living in Spain for 13
> years, having my horses boarded at a stable, they do not pay very
> much.
> > Where in Spain is it ? Is it for Spainish people or for Germans ?
> > Anne M
> >
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-it is in Malaga? Other jobs seem to be paying about 1000 euros a
month ,so maybe i should ask for a bit more than that?????

-- In training-horses@yahoogroups.com, Anne Maehle
<annemaehle2001@...> wrote:
>
> As fare as I know, not very much. I was living in Spain for 13
years, having my horses boarded at a stable, they do not pay very
much.
> Where in Spain is it ? Is it for Spainish people or for Germans ?
> Anne M
>
>
>
>
>
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-it is in Malaga? Other jobs seem to be paying about 1000 euros a
month ,so maybe i should ask for a bit more than that?????


-- In training-horses@yahoogroups.com, Anne Maehle
<annemaehle2001@...> wrote:
>
> As fare as I know, not very much. I was living in Spain for 13
years, having my horses boarded at a stable, they do not pay very
much.
>   Where in Spain is it ? Is it for Spainish people or for Germans ?
>   Anne M
>
>
>
>
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Hey everyone,who knows how much a trainer would get paid to work 6
days a week,housing provided in Spain??
>

Hey everyone,who knows how much a trainer would get paid to work 6
days a week,housing provided in Spain??
>

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When I retrain show/speed horses to the trail, I will just pony him
with my quiet gelding.  That way they can get confidence without
worrying a rider.  When they are quiet on the trail only then will I
put a confident rider (usually my daugher VBG) on him for several
weeks.  Then its time for the owner to take over.  Usually it takes a
few weeks to a month for this to work out.  I also work extensively on
ground manners to gain the horses confindence too.
Patrice
Where we will get dust storms today....


--- In training-horses@yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Santos-Reed"
<sactokat@...> wrote:
>
> I have a problem with my Morab gelding.  He was trained to
> compete at Morab Nationals and he did quite well, he was
> a National Champion 2 years in a row.
>
> Then, we shipped him to California and have barely ridden him.
> He's perfect in the roundpen and the arena, but when we try
> to ride him out and about in the pasture, he only wants to go
> back to th barn.  At first we thought we was just being willful,
> but it's because he's only been trained as a rail horse for showsd.
> Even the trainers who've worked with him in California have only
> ridden him in the roundpen or arena.
>
> He doesn't know anything other than roundpens and arenas!
>
> Okay...what should we do to get him accustomed to being ridden
> out there in the world?  I haven't heard of anyone else having
> this problem in years, so I have no idea how to correct it.
>
> Kathy
>

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So glad your taking your ring horse out in to the world.  Without the stimulation of new things we go stagnant.  Take it slow, and as someone mentioned, walking from the ground can accomplish much.  My Morgan mare was taught young, well before I could go mounted. We went  throughout the countryside, over and under whatever came up that we could safely navigate.  The only thing she never got really used to was being right next to semi trailers.  The same approach will work for older horses, take your que from the horse, only push as far as he's willing to be pushed.  start out in the ring where he's safe, and add a little more outside time while decreasing the inside the ring time.  If he gets scared, back up a step for a few days , then continue going forward again.  Good Luck.    Cheryl of WindWood

--- In training-horses@yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Santos-Reed" <sactokat@...> wrote:
>
>
> He's perfect in the roundpen and the arena, but when we try
> to ride him out and about in the pasture, he only wants to go
> back to th barn. Kathy

I have a problem with my Morab gelding. He was trained to
compete at Morab Nationals and he did quite well, he was
a National Champion 2 years in a row.

Then, we shipped him to California and have barely ridden him.
He's perfect in the roundpen and the arena, but when we try
to ride him out and about in the pasture, he only wants to go
back to th barn. At first we thought we was just being willful,
but it's because he's only been trained as a rail horse for showsd.
Even the trainers who've worked with him in California have only
ridden him in the roundpen or arena.

He doesn't know anything other than roundpens and arenas!

Okay...what should we do to get him accustomed to being ridden
out there in the world? I haven't heard of anyone else having
this problem in years, so I have no idea how to correct it.

Kathy

I have a problem with my Morab gelding.  He was trained to
compete at Morab Nationals and he did quite well, he was
a National Champion 2 years in a row.

Then, we shipped him to California and have barely ridden him.
He's perfect in the roundpen and the arena, but when we try
to ride him out and about in the pasture, he only wants to go
back to th barn.  At first we thought we was just being willful,
but it's because he's only been trained as a rail horse for showsd.
Even the trainers who've worked with him in California have only
ridden him in the roundpen or arena.

He doesn't know anything other than roundpens and arenas!

Okay...what should we do to get him accustomed to being ridden
out there in the world?  I haven't heard of anyone else having
this problem in years, so I have no idea how to correct it.

Kathy

Hi Debbie,

I am not sure if you are in PA or not but I know that PA and MD both have
disclosure laws than can quickly derail the sale of a house.  There are
several questions you need to ask though:  Did he know that you had horses and
were going to put them on that land?  Would a reasonable person presume these
pieces of glass would be a danger to the horses (i.e. how big are they?),
other animals or people? And lastly, if he did know, can you prove it and are
you willing to fight him in court over it?

I buy and sell houses for a living and have had the strangest things happen
regarding disclosure.  If, after answering these questions you feel like you
could win in a court of law...

   - - remember we are talking about a court of LAW not a court of JUSTICE, big
difference - -

(and you feel you want to go that route) go get a second opinion from a lawyer
who specializes in real estate.

Good luck

Anna


------ Original Message ------
Received: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:17:56 AM EDT
From: "Jean Obrist" <innisfreehorses@...>
To: <training-horses@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [training-horses] Full of glass

Some state have disclosure laws.  Certain things that are wrong with a
property have to be made known to the buyer.  Usually it's big items like bad
well or septic or whatever.  You could go on the website for your state and
see what disclosure requirements there are.   Jean
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Jlaw4me@...
   To: training-horses@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:52 AM
   Subject: [training-horses] Full of glass


   Hi group,
   I have not been here as I moved and have not been on computer. I would just
read the emails. But I have a problem. I moved my horse home from a stable and
my newly built home. The builder that sold me land and house was a friend,but
not a long time friend. Any way I moved in April and have my horse in just a
small sand paddock next to his run in barn that has been great. I put up the
electric fence and had a spot in front of that for him who is a three year
old.So I let him out and he was beyond happy. But I went to go and just walk
the area and pull some weeds and there was glass in one area then another
area. I have now picked out a bag of small different shapes and color glass.
My closing attorney for house said I can't do anything. Is this true?What can
I do?Builder said he doesn't know how it got there and it's not his problem. I
now see that I have it throughout the yard. I am a single person as I just
should have been more careful.But this guy has been trying to date me f or
some time with no success.He told me after I told him that I sit there all day
on weekends picking out glass,Good at least you are keeping busy and I know
where you are?" Please someone help. I cry over this situation and it's not
like I have money to legally do anything.
   Debbie


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----- Original Message -----

From: Jlaw4me@...

To: training-horses@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:52 AM

Subject: [training-horses] Full of glass

Hi group,
I have not been here as I moved and have not been on computer. I would just read the emails. But I have a problem. I moved my horse home from a stable and my newly built home. The builder that sold me land and house was a friend,but not a long time friend. Any way I moved in April and have my horse in just a small sand paddock next to his run in barn that has been great. I put up the electric fence and had a spot in front of that for him who is a three year old.So I let him out and he was beyond happy. But I went to go and just walk the area and pull some weeds and there was glass in one area then another area. I have now picked out a bag of small different shapes and color glass. My closing attorney for house said I can't do anything. Is this true?What can I do?Builder said he doesn't know how it got there and it's not his problem. I now see that I have it throughout the yard. I am a single person as I just should have been more careful.But this guy has been trying to date me f or some time with no success.He told me after I told him that I sit there all day on weekends picking out glass,Good at least you are keeping busy and I know where you are?" Please someone help. I cry over this situation and it's not like I have money to legally do anything.
Debbie

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> I need some help naming our last surprise baby. Hes out of Brandys
Golden
> Sunshine by Aprils Koko Traveler (we think lol). Here are pics. Im at
a
> total loss what to name him. And i dont want to list him for sale as
foal
> with no name!
>
> http://www.summerwindsfoxtrotterfarm.com/brandysfoal.html
>
> Cheryl
> http://www.summerwindsfoxtrotterfarm.com
> http://summerwindsfoxtrotterfarm.blogspot.com/
>
How about Brandys Traveler?

I need some help naming our last surprise baby. Hes out of Brandys Golden
Sunshine by Aprils Koko Traveler (we think lol). Here are pics. Im at a
total loss what to name him. And i dont want to list him for sale as foal
with no name!

http://www.summerwindsfoxtrotterfarm.com/brandysfoal.html

Cheryl
http://www.summerwindsfoxtrotterfarm.com
http://summerwindsfoxtrotterfarm.blogspot.com/

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