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Re: Info on E30M3

Jim has a lot more experience on the E30 M3 then I have.

Despite his and Donna's advice, I purchased an E30 M3 that was club
raced for two seasons by Ren Finley last January. I do agree that he
had spent
quite a bit on maintenance but took extremely good care of the car,
so much so that I think I can participate in a concours event
if I wanted to.

The car still has the original engine with 78K miles, and original
transmission, rear diff etc. The compression and leak down tests
performed on the car impressed my mechanic. The suspension setup on
the car is perfect, the control arms were new, and it had a turner
baffle.

I guess where I am going at here, is that if you are willing to care
for the car regularly, I think it is feasible to club race the car.
As far as engine rebuilds go, I budgeted 10K for that based on
Turner's 2.5L kit, although I know that would move me way out of J-
stock. Given regular oil changes, a baffle and careful checking of
oil, I think one may get longer mileage out of an E30 M3.

But if you buy one, make sure you buy one that has been well
maintained, if the person that ran the car got by on a cheap budget,
the car may be lacking a lot of deferred maintenance which is not a
good thing.

As far as driving goes, I also owned an E36 M3 during my ownership of
the E30 M3 and the E30 M3 is a a LOT more fun to drive than my E36 M3
which was completely setup for autocrossing (2nd place in GGC last
year in AA class on street tires).

Bora

ps. Remember to join the E30 M3 SIG, there you will find a lot more
info.

--- In trackaddicts@y..., jim_bassett <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> --- In trackaddicts@y..., dmdm3 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Hi gang, I am considering buying an E30M3 for track use. I found
a
> > race prepped car in LA owned by friend's friend named Vladin.
He's
> > does club racing. He has a J Prepared red car. Supposedly got hit
> at
> > the last Willow Spring's race. Donna, were you there?
>
> No, but I was (first race in the black E30 M3). Vladin was there,
he &
> I ran similar lap times, see:
> http://www.bmwccaclubracing.com/Archives/2001%20Se
> ries/Results/01willow1.htm
> (My first time at the track).
>
> He was involved in that incident at that race, in the Sunday race. I
> don't recall how extensive the damage was, however.
>
> > What can one expect as far as common problems with the E30M3?
>
> Other than the siphon attached to your wallet? Seriously, the S14
> motor is VERY high-strung, and requires pretty nearly constant
> maintenance/upkeep. Also, rebuilds are horrendously expensive ($8K -
> $10K).
>
> Donna (and Mark D.) can give you some particulars, though.
>
> > Please educate me! Thanks.
>
> Short lesson: Unless you have deep pockets, race something else :-)
> Racing in and of itself will have it's own set of expenses,
regardless
> of what vehicle (racing is *much* harder on a car than drivers
> schools).
>
> What are you doing May 11 & 12? :-) Come on up to the CR at THill
and
> get a first-hand look at the goings on at a race.
>
> Jim




Tue Apr 16, 2002 2:13 pm

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Hi gang, I am considering buying an E30M3 for track use. I found a race prepped car in LA owned by friend's friend named Vladin. He's does club racing. He has...
dmdm3
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Apr 16, 2002
1:36 am

I was there and I remember the car. In fact my buddy Ralph and I looked at it pretty hard while we were there. We were thinking about replacing our E-Mod 2002...
stevenmwalsh
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Apr 16, 2002
4:17 am

... at ... No, but I was (first race in the black E30 M3). Vladin was there, he & I ran similar lap times, see: ...
jim_bassett
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Apr 16, 2002
4:29 am

Peter wrote to me privately before I saw his post here, so I gave him a long reply offline, saying the same things in general (of course). ... I inferred from...
donna95m3
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Apr 16, 2002
11:08 pm

Thanks for all the thorough and honest responses. I think I'm gonna take my time to think about what I want. I don't think I will buy a full on race prepped...
dmdm3
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Apr 17, 2002
8:15 am

I agree with Bora (and 5000 others) that an E30 is more fun than an E36. And the fun factor went up again with the race suspension. The question then becomes,...
donna95m3
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Apr 17, 2002
1:56 pm

... Depends on the repair :-) But yeah, an E36 325 is a good choice for the budget-minded. A less high-strung motor, lots of bolt-on stuff (from M3s &...
jim_bassett
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Apr 18, 2002
8:24 pm

... Jim, You've pretty much figured it out. All of the reasons you listed. I think I've reached my comfort level on the track with my daily driver (M3/4)....
dmdm3
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Apr 19, 2002
1:36 am

I think an E30 325i fits what you want more than an E30 M3, I know Kirk Lachman sold his for less than 10K for sure and this was a fully prepped stock class...
boraakyol
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Apr 19, 2002
3:20 am

... I'm going to be controversial here and throw another car out: an early E36 328i/is or 325i/is They can be had for under $15k, have most of the torque...
peterg95m3
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Apr 19, 2002
6:35 am

... Not controversial at all, I believe I mentioned the same thing. :-) ... Jim Bassett M3 for the street, 325is for the track. Cheaper this way (in theory...
jim_bassett
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Apr 22, 2002
6:10 pm

I have an E30M3, adn while I love it, the maintenance issues are pretty significant. If I had it to do over, especially since I put in new springs, shocks etc...
Brian Jeffries
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Apr 18, 2002
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Jim has a lot more experience on the E30 M3 then I have. Despite his and Donna's advice, I purchased an E30 M3 that was club raced for two seasons by Ren...
boraakyol
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Apr 17, 2002
11:45 am

... Not all of it good :-) ... Yep, that car was very well maintained. You got a good one, Bora. ... Just the next class up, I-Stock. ... Oh yeah, I forgot to...
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