Hey Mike.  I'll have to check but I think I might be able to get us
into a bus trip to the Dover race if your interested.  I never been
to a race either and would love to go.  Hey even if we don't go on
the bus we can drive down and go to one sometime soon.


--- In theofficialnascar2dayclub@yahoogroups.com, michaelirishcoley
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I've never been to a Nascar event in person, and have been
thinking
> I need to go to one, perhaps on the East Coast or midwest.
Watkins
> Glenn is close to home but its not an easy race to watch in person
> (for viewing).  The partying I hear ia blast.
>
> --- In theofficialnascar2dayclub michaelirishcoley wrote:
>
> Is anyone going to the ROCK this weekend for the Subway 400?  What
> time does the party usually start there?  Or has it started
> already?

Hello Earnhardt Fans
We have Updated our site With a new background and Music  also the
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--- In theofficialnascar2dayclub michaelirishcoley wrote:

Is anyone going to the ROCK this weekend for the Subway 400?  What
time does the party usually start there?  Or has it started
already?

Is anyone going to the ROCK this weekend for the Subway 400?  What
time does the party usually start there?  Or has it started
already?

In a message dated 02/16/2003 1:37:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
no_reply@yahoogroups.com writes:

> What do you guys think about the fuel tank issues this year?
>
>

Hard to say - seems to work as far as breaking up the tracks.  If did seem to
create a problem of pit stops, however..  The latter was very scary.

For safety sake, let's think this out better before using it again.

Don in Winter Park FL



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NASCAR's rise: Hold the applause Great news for its regular fans as
well as cigarette-makers, oil men, automakers, unregenerate
Confederates and folks who get a buzz from highspeed wrecks on their
big-screen TVs. Excuse us if we don't stand up and cheer.

Paul Oberjuerge is sports editor of The Sun. Readers may write him at
399 North D St., San Bernardino, 92401, or e-mail him at
paul.oberjuerge@s...

Drop him a Note or two. Tell him what you think!


Coz: thats what he wants you to do so he can show his editor how
valueable he is by how much hate mail he generates, ignor him and
he'll go away this crap happens every year especially the day after
Daytona...i say ignor the idiot :=/

NASCAR's rise: Hold the applause


NASCAR has won the motor racing war.

Forget green, yellow or checkered flags. Open-wheel racing in this
country is flying a white flag of surrender.

Today, NASCAR's Daytona 500 will be the most-watched motorsports
event on the racing calendar, for the eighth consecutive year, with
an audience around 30 million.

Hard concept to grasp, for a Yankee born before 1980, when the
Indianapolis 500 was still king and NASCAR was a Dixie curiosity. But
the open-wheel circuit fractured, went downhill, and now many of its
biggest names are swapping paint with NASCAR's good ol' boys.

A Mears, an Andretti and a Fittipaldi will be racing today. At
Daytona. A Foyt attempted to qualify but didn't make the grid.

That those guys scrambled to get a NASCAR ride, in vehicles the open-
wheel community once derided as "tin tops' and "taxi cabs,' tells you
all you need to know about who is top dog in U.S. racing.

NASCAR is fat, sassy and boastful. It will inform you 17 of the
nation's 20 biggest sports events each year (in terms of single-day
attendance) are NASCAR races. It notes that NASCAR events get higher
television ratings than regular-season baseball and basketball.

There is that $2.8 billion TV contract, trailing the NFL but no one
else.

NASCAR is huge. We admit it. It cannot be ignored. It has steamrolled
its way to the upper echelon of American sports.

Still doesn't mean it is uniformly admirable. Not that many big
sports are.

There are upsides to the sport. It is highly competitive and
tactically compelling. It is colorful. Its technology appeals to
gadget-crazed Americans. Many fans are impressed by the courage of
its drivers, most of whom seem like regular guys. Guys who manage to
avoid police blotters, too.

But it has significant drawbacks we can't ignore even while its
Nielsens continue to rise.

NASCAR remains the most crassly commercial of sports entities. Every
square inch of every car and every firesuit is for sale, making them
moving billboards. Corporate America is in your face all day long.

Baseball fans squawk when teams peddle naming rights to their
stadium. NASCAR would sell the space on drivers' eyelids if someone
wrote a check.

See how often today, while watching the race, you don't have
somebody's logo in your field of vision. May not happen once, not
over 500 miles. Beer, detergent, candy, fast food, sexual-performance
enhancers ... NASCAR is one relentless shill.

Advertisers love NASCAR because it is thought to be quintessentially
American. No foreigners with funny accents here.

But it also is fairly seriously exclusionary, as well. No women in
today's field, no Latins (Fittipaldi aside) and no African Americans.

NASCAR still has that Confederate battle flag thing going among fans
in the infield, and for some reason that seems to have a chilling
effect on minorities. Imagine. Even with all its growth, the sport's
hardcore audience remains white and male.

NASCAR's competitive edge comes with a couple of asterisks. Much of
it is legislated through ever-changing rules that seek to put all
teams on equal footing. Some is due to the infamous "NASCAR yellow'
mysterious caution flags that bring leaders back to the pack just
when a race is getting dull. Nobody wins by two laps in this sport.

Another issue that leaves some squeamish are the stories, that just
don't go away, that NASCAR scripts the occasional outcome. Races and,
more often, who wins the pole.

Let's just say there have been a lot of coincidences, over the years,
from Dale Earnhardt Jr. winning the first race at Daytona after his
father's death there ... to guys winning the races closest to their
homes ... to backmarkers winning the pole just when a major sponsor
is getting antsy.

That kind of manipulation, never proved but a constant topic of
speculation among journalists closest to the sport, would put NASCAR
only a step ahead of professional wrestling.

There's more not to like. NASCAR remains allied to R.J. Reynolds,
which gives its name to the Winston Cup. Now, we all decided a while
back that smoking is a national health crisis, but NASCAR still
cozies up to the tobacco guys to the tune of $40 million-plus
annually.

Then again, if you want to talk about industries with disastrous
impacts on the modern world, carmakers and the internal-combustion
engine rank high on the list. Think of the environmental damage
wreaked by gasoline-burning vehicles over the past century, consider
the history-changing pursuit of oil ... and here we are celebrating
the greasy mess. Keen. Carbon monoxide, we salute you!

Last, and anything but least, NASCAR and motor racing people continue
to accept death as a part of doing business. It happened at Daytona
just two years ago.

Every fatality is labeled a "freak accident' but we rarely get
through a year without one of those freaks. Imagine baseball and
basketball shrugging if a couple of its guys died violently during
competition every year. Yeah, ludicrous.

NASCAR is big and getting bigger. It has run the competition off the
track. Great news for its regular fans as well as cigarette-makers,
oil men, automakers, unregenerate Confederates and folks who get a
buzz from highspeed wrecks on their big-screen TVs. Excuse us if we
don't stand up and cheer.

Paul Oberjuerge is sports editor of The Sun. Readers may write him at
399 North D St., San Bernardino, 92401, or e-mail him at
paul.oberjuerge@...


Drop him a Note or two. Tell him what you think!

His second Daytona 500, I'm glad this wasn't his first, wins like
this one kind of put an "*" next to them, congrat's to Michael in
any event.

--- In theofficialnascar2dayclub@yahoogroups.com, "cincy9891
<cincy9891@y...>" <cincy9891@y...> wrote:
> --- In theofficialnascar2dayclub@yahoogroups.com,
michaelirishcoley
> <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Everyone seems to think Daytona will be rained out, is it that
bad
> > in Florida right now?
>
>
> cincy9891 writes:
>
> the race was "rain shortened" with michael waltrip being the
winner!!.

Unofficial Race Results

Daytona 500 | Daytona International Speedway

February 16, 2003 | Race 1 of 36

Overview

Immediately following each race, NASCAR.com takes the
order of finish shown on Race Cast and lists each
driver's probable points, including bonus points for
laps led. Unofficial race results do not reflect any
post-race changes, such as penalties, which may be
levied by NASCAR. (now sortable)  Related Information

Driver Standings Unofficial

Schedule
Points System Explained







Fin St Car Driver Make Sponsor Pts/Bonus Laps Status
1 4 #15 Michael Waltrip  Chevrolet NAPA Auto Parts
185/10 109 Running
2 34 #97 Kurt Busch  Ford Rubbermaid 170/0 109 Running

3 10 #48 Jimmie Johnson  Chevrolet Lowe's 170/5 109
Running
4 43 #29 Kevin Harvick  Chevrolet GM Goodwrench
Service 160/0 109 Running
5 40 #6 Mark Martin  Ford Viagra 155/0 109 Running
6 3 #31 Robby Gordon  Chevrolet Cingular Wireless
150/0 109 Running
7 8 #20 Tony Stewart  Chevrolet Home Depot 151/5 109
Running
8 20 #19 Jeremy Mayfield  Dodge Dodge Dealers 142/0
109 Running
9 18 #09 Mike Wallace  Dodge Miccosukee Indian Gaming
138/0 109 Running
10 11 #88 Dale Jarrett  Ford UPS 134/0 109 Running
11 9 #99 Jeff Burton  Ford CITGO 130/0 109 Running
12 13 #24 Jeff Gordon  Chevrolet DuPont 127/0 109
Running
13 28 #45 Kyle Petty  Dodge Georgia Pacific 124/0 109
Running
14 24 #0 Jack Sprague * Pontiac NetZero 121/0 109
Running
15 5 #21 Ricky Rudd  Ford Motorcraft Quality Parts
118/0 109 Running
16 21 #23 Kenny Wallace  Dodge Stacker 2 115/0 109
Running
17 7 #40 Sterling Marlin  Dodge Coors Light  112/0 109
Running
18 6 #154 Todd Bodine  Ford Army National Guard 114/5
109 Running
19 42 #10 Johnny Benson  Pontiac Valvoline 106/0 109
Running
20 31 #17 Matt Kenseth  Ford DeWalt Power Tools 108/5
109 Running
21 27 #16 Greg Biffle * Ford Grainger 100/0 109
Running
22 15 #25 Joe Nemechek  Chevrolet UAW/Delphi 97/0 109
Running
23 16 #38 Elliott Sadler  Ford M&M's 94/0 109 Running
24 35 #77 Dave Blaney  Ford Jasper Engines &
Transmissions 91/0 109 Running
25 36 #2 Rusty Wallace  Dodge Miller Lite 88/0 109
Running
26 25 #32 Ricky Craven  Pontiac Tide 90/5 109 Running
27 41 #41 Casey Mears * Dodge Target 87/5 109 Running
28 38 #01 Jerry Nadeau  Pontiac U.S. Army 79/0 109
Running
29 30 #1 Steve Park  Chevrolet Pennzoil 76/0 109
Running
30 37 #5 Terry Labonte  Chevrolet Kellogg's 73/0 109
Running
31 19 #42 Jamie McMurray * Dodge Havoline 70/0 109
Running
32 14 #9 Bill Elliott  Dodge Dodge Dealers 67/0 109
Running
33 29 #74 Tony Raines * Chevrolet Staff America 64/0
109 Running
34 12 #43 John Andretti  Dodge Cheerios 61/0 108
Running
35 32 #33 Christian Fittipaldi  Chevrolet Monaco
Coaches 58/0 108 Running
36 2 #8 Dale Earnhardt Jr.  Chevrolet Budweiser 60/5
108 Running
37 39 #4 Mike Skinner  Pontiac Kodak 52/0 108 Running
38 17 #22 Ward Burton  Dodge Caterpillar 49/0 106 Out
of Race
39 1 #30 Jeff Green  Chevrolet America Online 46/0 95
Out of Race
40 23 #7 Jimmy Spencer  Dodge Sirius Satellite Radio
43/0 95 Out of Race
41 22 #18 Bobby Labonte  Chevrolet Interstate
Batteries 40/0 81 Running
42 26 #49 Ken Schrader  Dodge 1-800-CALLATT 37/0 58
Out of Race
43 33 #12 Ryan Newman  Dodge ALLTEL 34/0 57 Out of
Race


* Denotes Rookie


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--- In theofficialnascar2dayclub@yahoogroups.com, michaelirishcoley
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Everyone seems to think Daytona will be rained out, is it that bad
> in Florida right now?


cincy9891 writes:

the race was "rain shortened" with michael waltrip being the winner!!.

What do you guys think about the fuel tank issues this year?

The race is just about to begin, enjoy the race everyone! Go Rusty!

Everyone seems to think Daytona will be rained out, is it that bad
in Florida right now?

Xdon1010 wrote: FYI Toyota is ALREADY in NASCAR, with a Celica no
less. They are running that car in the Goody's Dash Series. They did
quite well last year with it, too.

Don in Winter Park FL



Coz: next we'll see a Prelude and a Lexus mixing it up :-/

In a message dated 02/14/2003 8:22:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cozmic_coyote@... writes:

> Now ive seen it all!! A japanese car in NHRA was enough for me to
> quit flipping through the channels looking for the drags, now Toyota
> is running a truck in the Craftsman Series! another american sport
> ruined by global infiltration that's another NASCAR event i wont be
> watching anymore, next we'll see Todd Bodine driving a Celica at
> Daytona 2004..if so it will be my last NASCAR race :-<

FYI

Toyota is ALREADY in NASCAR, with a Celica no less.  They are running that
car in the Goody's Dash Series.  They did quite well last year with it, too.

Don in Winter Park FL



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Now ive seen it all!! A japanese car in NHRA was enough for me to
quit flipping through the channels looking for the drags, now Toyota
is running a truck in the Craftsman Series! another american sport
ruined by global infiltration that's another NASCAR event i wont be
watching anymore, next we'll see Todd Bodine driving a Celica at
Daytona 2004..if so it will be my last NASCAR race :-<

Don, I loved it when he (Bill Elliot) was drivin the McDonalds car,
he's one of my fav's!

In a message dated 02/12/2003 7:30:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
no_reply@yahoogroups.com writes:

> Where is everyone, its just a few days until Daytona and no chatter,
> what's up??  This place was hoppin' a year ago!  Let's hear from you
> all!
>
>

Bill Elliott rules!

Don in Winter Park FL


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Where is everyone, its just a few days until Daytona and no chatter,
what's up??  This place was hoppin' a year ago!  Let's hear from you
all!

Well, seeing as though I'm enjoyin' a Miller Time, I'm going to take
Rusty to win the Daytona 500 this weekend!

Hello everyone.
We wanted to remind everyone of all the changes on our website and
our newest pages.
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doing what he loved Racing. #2 The Earnhardt Kids- a page about the
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Qualifying Results



1 #30 Jeff Green
2 #8 Dale Earnhardt
3 #31 Robby Gordon
4 #15 Michael Waltrip
5 #21 Ricky Rudd
6 #29 Kevin Harvick
7 #88 Dale Jarrett Ford
8 #18 Bobby Labonte
9 #40 Sterling Marlin
10 #45 Kyle Petty
11 #42 Jamie McMurray*
12 #9 Bill Elliott
13 #25 Joe Nemechek
14 #6 Mark Martin Ford
15 #32 Ricky Craven Pontiac
16 #48 Jimmie Johnson
17 #1 Steve Park
18 #19 Jeremy Mayfield
19 #22 Ward Burton Dodge
20 #38 Elliott Sadler
21 #16 Greg Biffle*
22 #74 Tony Raines*
23 #41 Casey Mears*
24 #33 Christian Fittipaldi
25 #17 Matt Kenseth
26 #09 Mike Wallace
27 #23 Kenny Wallace
28 #0 Jack Sprague*
29 #24 Jeff Gordon
30 #97 Kurt Busch
31 #10 Johnny Benson
32 #12 Ryan Newman
33 #14 Larry Foyt*
34 #01 Jerry Nadeau
35 #7 Jimmy Spencer
36 #43 John Andretti
37 #5 Terry Labonte
38 #154 Todd Bodine
39 #60 David Green
40 #49 Ken Schrader
41 #11 Brett Bodine
42 #2 Rusty Wallace
43 #4 Mike Skinner
44 #77 Dave Blaney Ford
45 #99 Jeff Burton
46 #02 Hermie Sadler
47 #37 Derrike Cope
48 #90 Kirk Shelmerdine
49 #178 Mike Harmon
50 #20 Tony Stewart-
51 #184 Norm Benning

Gordon confident despite poor showing



DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Jeff Gordon typically has a good qualifying
car at Daytona International Speedway -- but he always has a good
race car.

That's a comforting thought to the two-time Daytona 500 winner,
because he qualified only 29th best Monday afternoon for next
Sunday's "Great American Race."

Gordon says a bevy of NASCAR rules designed to make its Winston Cup
cars ride higher in the air plagues his team. He turned a lap in
49.121 seconds, an average speed of 183.221 mph in his No. 24 DuPont
Chevrolet.

Gordon is scheduled to start 15th Thursday in the first Gatorade 125-
Mile Qualifying Race. Each race determines half of the top 30
starters for the 500.

I'm a little disappointed with that, but we've got the 125s, we've
got a great race car and I know we're going to draft and race well,"
Gordon said. "Having to pass a lot of cars was not the way I wanted
to do it (qualify for the 500), but oh, well."

Gordon's lap trailed Bud Pole Award winner Jeff Green's AOL
Chevrolet's lap by .891 seconds after Green won his second career
pole -- in the season's biggest race -- with a lap of 48.230 /
186.606.

The four-time Winston Cup champion Gordon said he did not think the
Hendrick engine department's work was in question Monday. Rather, he
said the difference for him and his other Hendrick teammates, the
best of whom qualified only 13th, was explained by the rules.

"I feel like we're making good power," Gordon said. "I know about the
gains that we've made in the engine department and we're good there
(but) I don't know what it is. If we knew we'd be a lot faster.

Typically here it's all about getting that spoiler out of the air and
it's different now because NASCAR has limited us greatly on what we
can and cannot do. It's just the rules that they have limiting the
springs, the shocks, limiting the weight transfer, the panhard bar
angle in the back.

"There's a lot of things that we were doing last year that NASCAR
just keeps catching up to the teams with and keeps us from getting
the back of the cars down. It does make the horsepower that much more
important, but like I said, I don't know what other guys are making
for horsepower because I feel like we're making good power."

Gordon went out 17th and there was no doubt what neighborhood he was
going to be in when qualifying ended.

"I guess I'm glad we've got the 125s coming up to race our way in
because we ran so good the other night in the Bud Shootout," Gordon
said, laughing. "I know we've got a good race car, but I don't know
(about qualifying).

"We came down here and tested and felt like we had a good piece (but)
we came back down and we just haven't had the speed. Each time out
we've gained on it, but just not enough.

"When I saw some of those guys run those fast laps I hoped it was the
track that had picked up, but it wasn't for us, anyway."

Gordon said he had no doubt the setup from his Shootout car, which
finished second Saturday night in the 70-lap special event behind
Dale Earnhardt Jr., would swap over to his primary car.

"These cars were fairly close in time when we tested -- in fact the
500 car was even a little better and it drove better," Gordon said of
the two chassis. "Our car is just not that great by itself, but it's
very good in drafting conditions and I like to draft -- we seem to
be able to find our way up through there."

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