Being out here in the LA area, I heard a lot about Edwin Jackson when he was in
the Dodger organization.  He was always touted as the next big thing, but the
Dodgers gave up on him and shipped him to Tampa.

The Rays used in the pen his first year and he was pretty bad.  His second year,
they started him and he was worse (5-15, 5.76).  His third year, he was 14-11
but the ERA was still high (4.42) and hitters hit .281 against him.  That was,
of course, the year the Rays won the AL pennant, so his record no doubt
benefitted from the Rays offensive production.

His one good year was 2009 in Detroit when he was 13-9, 3.62.  He suddenly
developed into a strikeout pitcher, which was not what he was known for in
Tampa.  He's always thrown hard (mid-90s) but before 2009 was plagued with
control problems.

Here's a somewhat disturbing thought.  The Tigers had another guy a few years
ago who put up one really decent year and at age 25 (Jackson's age) was thought
to be on the verge of greatness.  That guy was, of course, future Yankee Jeff
Weaver.



--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Randy West <rwest_achla@...>
wrote:
>
> Who really wants Jackson? He wasn't very good in Tampa. He's had 1 good year
in Detroit. Granderson intrigues me, but I don't want Jackson. I also agree
Detroit wouldn't want Melky. He's a decent outfielder, but would only be under
control for a couple of more seasons. Also, what you see is what you get. He
made strides, but I wouldn't count on him turning into a 20+ homerun guy.
>  
> Randy
>
>
>  
>
> --- On Fri, 11/13/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@...>
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:54 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I don't know about "low cost" talent getting us #27. The core team (Jeter,
A-Rod, Tex, CC, AJ, Mo, Posada, Damon, Matsui) are quite the opposite of that.
>
> As for Melky, I'm not sure Detroit would want him. We all seem to like Melky a
lot, but other teams may not value him as much as we do. I could see them
wanting Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, and another minor league pitcher, maybe
Zach McAllister or Ivan Nova.
>
> If so, this really boils down to Granderson vs. A-Jax, the known vs. the
unknown.
>
> --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, Kathy Agel <badkarma.one@
...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Granderson and Jackson would be 2 great acquisitions. But what would
> > >it take? A lot. I don't think Cashman wants to give up a lot of
> > >young talent which is what Detroit would want - high-end-low cost talent.
> >
> > I hope Cashman is too smart to make this trade. Our high-end,
> > low-cost talent helped bring a 27th World Championship home to the Bronx.
> >
> > They want Melky? The player with 3 of the 15 walkoffs, a high BA in
> > the 7th inning and later (it always seemed that when we needed a late
> > hit, if Melky was up, he delivered)?
> >
> > They want Joba or Hughes? If Cashman wouldn't give them up for
> > Santana, Lee or Halladay, why on earth would he give them up for
> > Granderson? And then, if you make the trade, you need a replacement starter.
> >
>

I think people like the fact that he's got speed and he's not afraid to get his
uniform dirty (I often see him referred to as "gritty").  Personally, I prefer
Melky to Gardner for the reasons you stated.


--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Agel <badkarma.one@...>
wrote:
>
> Can someone please tell me what the fascination is with Gardner? He
> seems like a nice guy, and he's fast, but as a bench player, he's no
> Ruben Sierra.  He can play center, has no power, whereas Melky is a
> switch-hitter (with nearly identical averages from both sides), can
> play all three outfield positions,  can tire a pitcher out with his
> patience, and has reasonable power.
>

At 12:54 PM 11/13/2009, you wrote:
>I don't know about "low cost" talent getting us #27.  The core team
>(Jeter, A-Rod, Tex, CC, AJ, Mo, Posada, Damon, Matsui) are quite the
>opposite of that.

But your middle-relievers were all young guys, and our cheap
home-grown center-fielder was the definition of clutch this year.

>As for Melky, I'm not sure Detroit would want him.  We all seem to
>like Melky a lot, but other teams may not value him as much as we do.

Good! All the better if he flies under their radar.

>
>I agree that it will depend on the players needed to make this
>trade. I don't see the Yanks giving up on Melky now that he finally
>seems to have turned the corner. A year ago definitely but not now.

Yeah, last year was the nadir for him. But he learned from it, and
produced this year.

>As for Joba and Hughes, they are still young and their upside,
>despite everyone's frustration with them, as starters is still very high.

They're babies (which I say from the perspective of a 54-year-old) --
they need to grow up and mature as players.

>If it happens, I think it would be other player involved like maybe
>Gardner, Kennedy, McCallister or Nova from Scranton. I don't seem
>giving up on AJax this quickly.

Can someone please tell me what the fascination is with Gardner? He
seems like a nice guy, and he's fast, but as a bench player, he's no
Ruben Sierra.  He can play center, has no power, whereas Melky is a
switch-hitter (with nearly identical averages from both sides), can
play all three outfield positions,  can tire a pitcher out with his
patience, and has reasonable power.

At 11:58 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote:


>I agree with you again. On the list below Mo should be #4. He is the
>reason they've won all the championships in this era.

As much as I loved Mickey, I'd put Mo ahead of him on the list. In
fact, I'd put Mo 2nd, followed by The Mick, then Gehrig, then
Dimaggio (whom I never saw play -- I'm relying on my father's opinion of him).

I'm not sure how good A-Jax will be.

Here are his AAA numbers from last season:

BA .300
HR    4
RBI  65
2B   23
3B    9
SB   24
CS    4
OBP .354 (identical with his 2008 OBP at Trenton)
Slug .405
BB   40
SO  123

If these were MLB numbers, would he be our every day CF?  Honestly, I think
these are numbers that Brett Gardner could easily replicate.

Jackson hits for average and has speed to steal bases and leg out a 2B or 3B. 
But he has no power, strikes out too much and doesn't walk enough, which may
indicate lack of plate discipline.


--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
wrote:
>
> I wouldn't trade Ajax unless it's in a package for someone like Felix
Hernandez. Otherwise, why give up on someone like him so quickly. If Gardner was
ready to step in full time he'd be ideal because of his speed and defense in CF.
Melky could then shift to one of the corner outfield spots. But Gardner doesn't
appear ready yet so they can't just go ahead and give him CF. So if Damon leaves
they will need an OF to replace him. So the possibilities are: 1) Sign Damon and
keep Melky/Gardner in CF, 2) Sign Damon and trade Melky, etc. for Grandeson 2)
Let Damon go and put Melky in LF and Gardner or AJax or both in CF, 3) Trade
for Grandeson and put him CF and keep Melky and put him in LF, 4) Let Damon go
and sign either Holliday, Bay, Nady, Figgins or Byrd. 5) Sign one of the free
agents in #4 and trade Melky, etc. for Grandeson.
>  
> I'm going with #1 although trading for Grandeson is tempting.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/13/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@...>
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:54 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I don't know about "low cost" talent getting us #27. The core team (Jeter,
A-Rod, Tex, CC, AJ, Mo, Posada, Damon, Matsui) are quite the opposite of that.
>
> As for Melky, I'm not sure Detroit would want him. We all seem to like Melky a
lot, but other teams may not value him as much as we do. I could see them
wanting Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, and another minor league pitcher, maybe
Zach McAllister or Ivan Nova.
>
> If so, this really boils down to Granderson vs. A-Jax, the known vs. the
unknown.
>
> --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, Kathy Agel <badkarma.one@
...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Granderson and Jackson would be 2 great acquisitions. But what would
> > >it take? A lot. I don't think Cashman wants to give up a lot of
> > >young talent which is what Detroit would want - high-end-low cost talent.
> >
> > I hope Cashman is too smart to make this trade. Our high-end,
> > low-cost talent helped bring a 27th World Championship home to the Bronx.
> >
> > They want Melky? The player with 3 of the 15 walkoffs, a high BA in
> > the 7th inning and later (it always seemed that when we needed a late
> > hit, if Melky was up, he delivered)?
> >
> > They want Joba or Hughes? If Cashman wouldn't give them up for
> > Santana, Lee or Halladay, why on earth would he give them up for
> > Granderson? And then, if you make the trade, you need a replacement starter.
> >
>

I agree with most of this.  They won with the 2009 lineup, what's to say they
couldn't win again with it?



--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Fisher" <bob@...> wrote:
>
>
> I agree on number 1 as well.
>
> Resign Damon keep Melky & Gardner.
>
> Personally I'd keep the offense & position players
> pretty much as the 2009 team and spend on
> pitching again. Lackey is the logical choice moving
> Andy to #4 spot and let the current BP guys fight
> for the #5 spot.
>
> I'd probably offer Matsui a deal as well.
>
> If I were Joba and I really wanted to be a regular
> starterr, I would find a pitching coach or mentor
> who understands how to be a power pitcher, and
> work with him all during the off season. If Joba
> shows up at spring training with his current skill
> level he is destined for the BP in a set up role.
> I 'would' suggest Nolan Ryan except for all that
> Texas loyalty stuff, :) I also know how some feel
> about Clemens and all that roids stuff but he does
> know how to be a power pitcher without them.
> I really believe Joba wants to be a starter and I
> don't think the Yankees have anyone currently
> on the coaching staff that can help him mature
> into that role. I am sorry but a pitcher doesn't
> get stronger by not pitching.
>
> Pitching, pitching & more pitching. Where have
> I heard that before?
>
> bob f.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
> To: <thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 13:32
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
>
>
> I wouldn't trade Ajax unless it's in a package for someone like Felix
> Hernandez. Otherwise, why give up on someone like him so quickly. If Gardner
> was ready to step in full time he'd be ideal because of his speed and
> defense in CF. Melky could then shift to one of the corner outfield spots.
> But Gardner doesn't appear ready yet so they can't just go ahead and give
> him CF. So if Damon leaves they will need an OF to replace him. So the
> possibilities are: 1) Sign Damon and keep Melky/Gardner in CF, 2) Sign Damon
> and trade Melky, etc. for Grandeson 2) Let Damon go and put Melky in LF and
> Gardner or AJax or both in CF, 3) Trade for Grandeson and put him CF and
> keep Melky and put him in LF, 4) Let Damon go and sign either Holliday, Bay,
> Nady, Figgins or Byrd. 5) Sign one of the free agents in #4 and trade Melky,
> etc. for Grandeson.
>
> I'm going with #1 although trading for Grandeson is tempting.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/13/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@...>
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:54 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I don't know about "low cost" talent getting us #27. The core team (Jeter,
> A-Rod, Tex, CC, AJ, Mo, Posada, Damon, Matsui) are quite the opposite of
> that.
>
> As for Melky, I'm not sure Detroit would want him. We all seem to like Melky
> a lot, but other teams may not value him as much as we do. I could see them
> wanting Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, and another minor league pitcher, maybe
> Zach McAllister or Ivan Nova.
>
> If so, this really boils down to Granderson vs. A-Jax, the known vs. the
> unknown.
>
> --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, Kathy Agel <badkarma.one@
> ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Granderson and Jackson would be 2 great acquisitions. But what would
> > >it take? A lot. I don't think Cashman wants to give up a lot of
> > >young talent which is what Detroit would want - high-end-low cost talent.
> >
> > I hope Cashman is too smart to make this trade. Our high-end,
> > low-cost talent helped bring a 27th World Championship home to the Bronx.
> >
> > They want Melky? The player with 3 of the 15 walkoffs, a high BA in
> > the 7th inning and later (it always seemed that when we needed a late
> > hit, if Melky was up, he delivered)?
> >
> > They want Joba or Hughes? If Cashman wouldn't give them up for
> > Santana, Lee or Halladay, why on earth would he give them up for
> > Granderson? And then, if you make the trade, you need a replacement
> > starter.
> >
>

I agree on number 1 as well.

Resign Damon keep Melky & Gardner.

Personally I'd keep the offense & position players
pretty much as the 2009 team and spend on
pitching again. Lackey is the logical choice moving
Andy to #4 spot and let the current BP guys fight
for the #5 spot.

I'd probably offer Matsui a deal as well.

If I were Joba and I really wanted to be a regular
starterr, I would find a pitching coach or mentor
who understands how to be a power pitcher, and
work with him all during the off season. If Joba
shows up at spring training with his current skill
level he is destined for the BP in a set up role.
I 'would' suggest Nolan Ryan except for all that
Texas loyalty stuff, :) I also know how some feel
about Clemens and all that roids stuff but he does
know how to be a power pitcher without them.
I really believe Joba wants to be a starter and I
don't think the Yankees have anyone currently
on the coaching staff that can help him mature
into that role. I am sorry but a pitcher doesn't
get stronger by not pitching.

Pitching, pitching & more pitching. Where have
I heard that before?

bob f.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
To: <thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 13:32
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson


I wouldn't trade Ajax unless it's in a package for someone like Felix
Hernandez. Otherwise, why give up on someone like him so quickly. If Gardner
was ready to step in full time he'd be ideal because of his speed and
defense in CF. Melky could then shift to one of the corner outfield spots.
But Gardner doesn't appear ready yet so they can't just go ahead and give
him CF. So if Damon leaves they will need an OF to replace him. So the
possibilities are: 1) Sign Damon and keep Melky/Gardner in CF, 2) Sign Damon
and trade Melky, etc. for Grandeson 2) Let Damon go and put Melky in LF and
Gardner or AJax or both in CF, 3) Trade for Grandeson and put him CF and
keep Melky and put him in LF, 4) Let Damon go and sign either Holliday, Bay,
Nady, Figgins or Byrd. 5) Sign one of the free agents in #4 and trade Melky,
etc. for Grandeson.

I'm going with #1 although trading for Grandeson is tempting.

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:


From: SLC <theslick1@...>
Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:54 PM






I don't know about "low cost" talent getting us #27. The core team (Jeter,
A-Rod, Tex, CC, AJ, Mo, Posada, Damon, Matsui) are quite the opposite of
that.

As for Melky, I'm not sure Detroit would want him. We all seem to like Melky
a lot, but other teams may not value him as much as we do. I could see them
wanting Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, and another minor league pitcher, maybe
Zach McAllister or Ivan Nova.

If so, this really boils down to Granderson vs. A-Jax, the known vs. the
unknown.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, Kathy Agel <badkarma.one@
...> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Granderson and Jackson would be 2 great acquisitions. But what would
> >it take? A lot. I don't think Cashman wants to give up a lot of
> >young talent which is what Detroit would want - high-end-low cost talent.
>
> I hope Cashman is too smart to make this trade. Our high-end,
> low-cost talent helped bring a 27th World Championship home to the Bronx.
>
> They want Melky? The player with 3 of the 15 walkoffs, a high BA in
> the 7th inning and later (it always seemed that when we needed a late
> hit, if Melky was up, he delivered)?
>
> They want Joba or Hughes? If Cashman wouldn't give them up for
> Santana, Lee or Halladay, why on earth would he give them up for
> Granderson? And then, if you make the trade, you need a replacement
> starter.
>

I don't know about "low cost" talent getting us #27.  The core team (Jeter,
A-Rod, Tex, CC, AJ, Mo, Posada, Damon, Matsui) are quite the opposite of that.

As for Melky, I'm not sure Detroit would want him.  We all seem to like Melky a
lot, but other teams may not value him as much as we do.  I could see them
wanting Austin Jackson, Ian Kennedy, and another minor league pitcher, maybe
Zach McAllister or Ivan Nova.

If so, this really boils down to Granderson vs. A-Jax, the known vs. the
unknown.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Agel <badkarma.one@...>
wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Granderson and Jackson would be 2 great acquisitions. But what would
> >it take? A lot. I don't think Cashman wants to give up a lot of
> >young talent which is what Detroit would want - high-end-low cost talent.
>
> I hope Cashman is too smart to make this trade. Our high-end,
> low-cost talent helped bring a 27th World Championship home to the Bronx.
>
> They want Melky? The player with 3 of the 15 walkoffs, a high BA in
> the 7th inning and later (it always seemed that when we needed a late
> hit, if Melky was up, he delivered)?
>
> They want Joba or Hughes? If Cashman wouldn't give them up for
> Santana, Lee or Halladay, why on earth would he give them up for
> Granderson? And then, if you make the trade, you need a replacement starter.
>

At 07:08 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote:


>now is for repeating and if it takes signing Lackey so be it
>when Yankees repeated in was it 98,99,2000, Didnt they add starting
>pitching in say a
>Clemons or David ,not Cone the other big guy ??

David Wells was traded for Roger Clemens after the 1998 season.

At 10:29 AM 11/12/2009, you wrote:
>1. Babe Ruth-always the rock the Yanks were built on-nuff said!
>2. Joe DiMaggio-56 game hitting streak, 3 AL MVPs, 9x WS champion!
>3. Mickey Mantle-7 World Series titles, 3 AL MVPs, 18yrs a Yankee!
>4. Reggie Jackson-marked the renaissance of Yankee baseball
>5. Donnie Baseball a/k/a Don Mattingly-he WAS the Yankees in the 80's!
>
>close runners up: Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera.

Mo a runner-up? I'd put Mo in #3 -- without him, forget the last four
WS championships. He has been far more influential than Mattingly or Reggie.

>
>Granderson and Jackson would be 2 great acquisitions. But what would
>it take? A lot. I don't think Cashman wants to give up a lot of
>young talent which is what Detroit would want - high-end-low cost talent.

I hope Cashman is too smart to make this trade. Our high-end,
low-cost talent helped bring a 27th World Championship home to the Bronx.

They want Melky? The player with 3 of the 15 walkoffs, a high BA in
the 7th inning and later (it always seemed that when we needed a late
hit, if Melky was up, he delivered)?

They want Joba or Hughes? If Cashman wouldn't give them up for
Santana, Lee or Halladay, why on earth would he give them up for
Granderson? And then, if you make the trade, you need a replacement starter.

>
>
>The cost?  Probably one of our CF's I suppose (A-Jax, Melky, or
>Gardner) plus one of our pitchers (Joba or Hughes).

Way too high a price. I'd pass.

Still wanted, but he's fallen quite a ways from playing for the Yankees to being
a minor leaguer for the Royals.


--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Ramondo Stallings
<ramondostallings@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Wow, life must be good for Betemit b/c after that horrible year with the WS
and the horrible year with the Yankees he is still wanted!!
>

Joel Sherman speculates that the Yankees would have to part with Austin Jackson,
Ian Kennedy, and Zach McAllister to get Granderson.  However, he notes that the
Tigers have a number of "bad contracts" and if the Yankees took on one of them,
the deal could be a much larger one.  Jeremy Bonderman ($12 mil), Nate Robertson
($7 mil), Maglio Ordonez ($18 mil - he hit only 9 HRs last year), and Gerald
Laird are the ones he mentions.  Of course, there's also Dontrelle Willis at $12
mil but doesn't think the Yankees would buy into that.


--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
wrote:
>
> Let's see if this trade really will happen.
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@...>
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:24 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I really like Granderson but you're right that he strikes out too much and he
has never hit leftys well. So, Jon Lester is going to give him problems.
Fortunately, the rest of the better AL East pitchers are right-handed.
>
> The cost? Probably one of our CF's I suppose (A-Jax, Melky, or Gardner) plus
one of our pitchers (Joba or Hughes).
>
> --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@ .>
wrote:
> >
> > The rumor is Granderson and Edwin Jackson but for who? It would be a big
time trade but for the Yankees. I like both players. However another
negative/positive about Granderson:
> > Granderson does have a downside. He is terrible against lefties (.183 last
year) and strikes out a ton (141 times last year) and though he steals bases (20
last year) he is not known as a strong instinctual base stealer. However, his
power has blossomed in a park not nearly as becoming to a lefty hitter as Yankee
Stadium and he is known as one of the most media friendly and amicable players
in the game.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, SLC <theslick1@ ..> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: SLC <theslick1@ ..>
> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
> > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> > Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 5:15 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > The Tigers have said he's available via trade. Joel Sherman says the Yankees
could be interested.
> >
> > Pro: Blazing speed, superior CF defense, surprising power, very athletic, an
Alfonso Soriano type
> >
> > Con: 2009 was an off year in spite of hitting 30 HR, his 2010 salary is
reasonable but escalates for the next 3 years
> >
> > I posted earlier in the year about seeing him play during a Tigers-Angels
game and all he did was homer, leg out a stand up triple on a hit where most
guys would have stopped at second, and make a game saving catch in CF. He's a
more costly option than Mike Cameron but has far more upside and an exciting
player to watch.
> >
>

This is a minor league deal.  Betemit hit .200 in 20 games with the White Sox
last year.

I guess we know who got the better end of the Betemit for Swisher trade.

For some reason, the more that people talk about a potential trade like this,
the less likely it is to happen.

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
wrote:
>
> Let's see if this trade really will happen.
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@...>
> Subject: Re: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:24 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I really like Granderson but you're right that he strikes out too much and he
has never hit leftys well. So, Jon Lester is going to give him problems.
Fortunately, the rest of the better AL East pitchers are right-handed.
>
> The cost? Probably one of our CF's I suppose (A-Jax, Melky, or Gardner) plus
one of our pitchers (Joba or Hughes).
>
> --- In thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@ .>
wrote:
> >
> > The rumor is Granderson and Edwin Jackson but for who? It would be a big
time trade but for the Yankees. I like both players. However another
negative/positive about Granderson:
> > Granderson does have a downside. He is terrible against lefties (.183 last
year) and strikes out a ton (141 times last year) and though he steals bases (20
last year) he is not known as a strong instinctual base stealer. However, his
power has blossomed in a park not nearly as becoming to a lefty hitter as Yankee
Stadium and he is known as one of the most media friendly and amicable players
in the game.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, SLC <theslick1@ ..> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: SLC <theslick1@ ..>
> > Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
> > To: thenewyorkyankeesfa nclub@yahoogroup s.com
> > Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 5:15 PM
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> > The Tigers have said he's available via trade. Joel Sherman says the Yankees
could be interested.
> >
> > Pro: Blazing speed, superior CF defense, surprising power, very athletic, an
Alfonso Soriano type
> >
> > Con: 2009 was an off year in spite of hitting 30 HR, his 2010 salary is
reasonable but escalates for the next 3 years
> >
> > I posted earlier in the year about seeing him play during a Tigers-Angels
game and all he did was homer, leg out a stand up triple on a hit where most
guys would have stopped at second, and make a game saving catch in CF. He's a
more costly option than Mike Cameron but has far more upside and an exciting
player to watch.
> >
>

1. Babe Ruth-always the rock the Yanks were built on-nuff said!
2. Joe DiMaggio-56 game hitting streak, 3 AL MVPs, 9x WS champion!
3. Mickey Mantle-7 World Series titles, 3 AL MVPs, 18yrs a Yankee!
4. Reggie Jackson-marked the renaissance of Yankee baseball
5. Donnie Baseball a/k/a Don Mattingly-he WAS the Yankees in the 80's!

close runners up: Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera.

-Adeeb

--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "pezza2015" <pjohnstone@...>
wrote:
>
> I was watching PTI the other day and they mentioned Kobe as one of the 5 most
influential Lakers of all time, it got me thinking, who are the top 5 Yankees.
After plenty of thought I came up with these in order:
>
> 1. The Bambini
> 2. Mo
> 3. The Yankee Clipper
> 4. The current skipper
> 5. Donny Baseball
>
> All 5 have bought something to this organization which sets them apart from
the majority of ball players.
>
> What is everyone's opinion or what is everyone's top 5 influential Yankees?
>
> No 28 is just around the corner
>
> Cheers
>
> Perry
>

I really like Granderson but you're right that he strikes out too much and he
has never hit leftys well.  So, Jon Lester is going to give him problems. 
Fortunately, the rest of the better AL East pitchers are right-handed.

The cost?  Probably one of our CF's I suppose (A-Jax, Melky, or Gardner) plus
one of our pitchers (Joba or Hughes).


--- In thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph P." <jpasseri@...>
wrote:
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> The rumor is Granderson and Edwin Jackson but for who? It would be a big time
trade but for the Yankees. I like both players. However another
negative/positive about Granderson:
> Granderson does have a downside. He is terrible against lefties (.183 last
year) and strikes out a ton (141 times last year) and though he steals bases (20
last year) he is not known as a strong instinctual base stealer. However, his
power has blossomed in a park not nearly as becoming to a lefty hitter as Yankee
Stadium and he is known as one of the most media friendly and amicable players
in the game.
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, SLC <theslick1@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: SLC <theslick1@...>
> Subject: [The NYY Fan Club] Curtis Granderson
> To: thenewyorkyankeesfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 5:15 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> The Tigers have said he's available via trade. Joel Sherman says the Yankees
could be interested.
>
> Pro: Blazing speed, superior CF defense, surprising power, very athletic, an
Alfonso Soriano type
>
> Con: 2009 was an off year in spite of hitting 30 HR, his 2010 salary is
reasonable but escalates for the next 3 years
>
> I posted earlier in the year about seeing him play during a Tigers-Angels game
and all he did was homer, leg out a stand up triple on a hit where most guys
would have stopped at second, and make a game saving catch in CF. He's a more
costly option than Mike Cameron but has far more upside and an exciting player
to watch.
>

HELP PLEASE!!!  My DVR played a nasty trick on me and deleted game 2 of this
years world series. Is there someone who has the DVD and is willing to rerecord
it and send it to me?  Im also looking for game 3 of the 1996 world series on
DVD/VCR. Let me know what the cost will be to cover the DVD/VCR, postage, etc.
etc.