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Re: [the_click_that_teaches] "Spot" training with clicker


On May 13, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Laurie Higgins wrote:

> Looking back on it, I don't think I set the horses up for unmet
> expectations. But I might have.
>
>
This is very helpful, Laurie. I'll pass it on. When I thought about it,
I was convinced it could work for "spot" training, but wanted to be
sure there was a way to do and still be fair to the horses. It sounds
like you've had a lot of experience trying different methods as the
situation required but ended up where you wanted to be. Thanks so much
for the feedback! Lucky horses!!

Kathy & Jodie





Tue May 13, 2008 1:40 pm

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Kathy, Looking back on it, I don't think I set the horses up for unmet expectations. But I might have. I definitely phased out CT for the blanket issue. When...
Laurie Higgins
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May 13, 2008
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... This is very helpful, Laurie. I'll pass it on. When I thought about it, I was convinced it could work for "spot" training, but wanted to be sure there was...
Kathryn Hollen
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May 13, 2008
1:42 pm

Hi Kathryn, I think there is a huge variation in how people use clicker training and it would be interesting to have some kind of numbers. I suspect there are...
Katie Bartlett
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May 13, 2008
2:31 pm

... Katie, you've expressed my basic concerns exactly. I know my friend "gets" it, because she's already a good horseperson and has seen me in action with...
Kathryn Hollen
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May 13, 2008
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Hi Kathryn, I am glad my reply was helpful. I think you brought up a good and important subject and I am glad that Laurie jumped in and shared her experiences...
Katie Bartlett
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May 13, 2008
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... Me too, although my contact with others is limited, but I expect that to pick up considerably now that I'm almost semi-retired and will be out and about...
Kathryn Hollen
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May 13, 2008
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"I would be curious to know other people's experiences sharing clicker training with friends and other horse people. And maybe even just how people on the list...
Dolores Arste
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May 13, 2008
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... I am a fairly recent convert from ³spot training² to .........lots of things but not everything? But I¹m still working on changing the mindset. With a...
Jane Jackson
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May 13, 2008
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Katie wrote: I would be curious to know other people's experiences sharing clicker training with friends and other horse people. And maybe even just how ...
M.Pitre
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May 13, 2008
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Katie knows my answers and my horses. Katie's prior very thoughtful, insightful, and deep answer to Kathryn's question pretty much said it all: It depends. ...
Laurie Higgins
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May 13, 2008
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**I find I don't convert people either. I certainly don't try anyway.** Likewise....as Laurie wrote, people have to be open to the concept before they can take...
Amanda
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May 14, 2008
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It is certainly possible to use clicker training selectively. I think the main thing the 'circumstantial' clickers will miss out on is the horse offering...
Cynthia Kiser
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May 13, 2008
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... Cynthia, I absolutely agree and have explained that to Mary, but I'm glad you pointed it out because it bears repeating. ... This is an excellent point. My...
Kathryn Hollen
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May 13, 2008
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HI all: I want to thank everybody who responded to my question about spot training. Not only did many of you make great suggestions and highlight important...
Kathryn Hollen
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May 14, 2008
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Hi Amanda, ... I too have been lucky to have found just such an instructor in the John Lyons-certified trainer who is now helping me with the riding lessons on...
Arlene
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May 16, 2008
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OK- now I¹m going to turn the tables: many of you have commented on finding (or not finding) instructors who are of varying degrees of helpfulness and ...
Jane Jackson
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May 16, 2008
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... Interesting twist to the original question, Jane. I'm looking forward to the responses. Kathy...
Kathryn Hollen
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May 16, 2008
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Hi Jane, I no longer teach, largely because of some of the frustrations you alluded to in your email. One thing that has become clear to me is that in order ...
Elaine
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May 16, 2008
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... Elaine, this is such an insightful and important point, and I think was one of my concerns when I first posed the question--clicker training is more than a...
Kathryn Hollen
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Hi Elaine, I am just starting to do a bit of teaching (in person) and I am finding it is very difficult. There are so many things that can come into play and ...
Katie Bartlett
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May 17, 2008
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Hi Jane, I've taught the Instructors. I love working one on one. We always use a marker, we always use a reward. How we use it depends on the Instructor. It is...
Dolores Arste
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May 17, 2008
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... unless it isn't. right:) Thanks as always, Jane Vermont Re: [the_click_that_teaches] WAS "Spot" training with clicker, now instructors? On 5/17/08 10:20...
Jane Jackson
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Hi Katie, I almost deleted this email before sending because it all sounds so introspective and mentally twisted, but maybe it will help someone to see what...
Elaine
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May 17, 2008
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I thought I'd jump in here even though I'm not a teacher or even a seasoned clicker trainer. I do have experience with what you describe below, Elaine. I had a...
Jennifer
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May 17, 2008
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... Jennifer, you have beautifully expressed the profound benefits of clicker training to both humans and horses. In my reply to Lottie, I tried to say...
Kathryn Hollen
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May 18, 2008
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Hi Elaine, Thanks for sharing by writing both your posts, the introspective one and the "everything is everything else" one. I am glad that you had time to...
Katie Bartlett
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May 18, 2008
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On Saturday, 17 May 2008 at 11:08:04 -0500, Elaine wrote: Hi girls, Sorry I'm late to jump in, just a few thoughts... ... ... or dealing with a horse that has...
Yvonne Lehey
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May 23, 2008
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Some amazing posts on this topic ! I have been offline for a week or so and this made for great reading. **So, maybe I'm analyzing this into the ground but I...
Amanda
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May 23, 2008
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... So do I. Thank you, Elaine, for voicing those thoughts. ... I've had plenty of fear about horses. In fact, it was this very fear that made me first start...
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May 18, 2008
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... Lottie, I completely understand, and I too, Elaine, have so much respect for your candor, especially coming from someone so experienced. Lottie, as you...
Kathryn Hollen
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