alvin patrimonio and isabelo lastimosa were both members of the
original purefoods team and were teammates from 1988 afc-90. both
also won their 1st title together with purefoods. both are also
members of the pba 25 greatest players. patrimonio has won 4 mvp's,
1 all-star mvp and 6 championships while lastimosa has won roy and
10 championships including a grandslam. both had great careers in
the pba but who has won the duel between these 2 former glamour boys
of purefoods?
1991: 3-2 in favor of alvin and purefoods
1992: 5-1 including a knockout match victory in favor of alvin and
purefoods
1993: 4-2 in favor of alvin and purefoods
1994: 8-6 including a 4-1 commissioners cup finals victory still in
favor of alvin and purefoods
1995: 7-2 including a 115-89 win in favor of jolas and alaska
1996: 9-4 including a 4-1 win in the all-filipino finals in favor of
jolas and alaska
1997: 6-4 including a 4-1 win in the governors cup finals in favor
of jolas and alaska
1998: 4-3 in favor of jolas and alaska
1999: 6-3 including wins in the quarterfinals in the all-filipino
and semis sweep in the governors cup still in favor of jolas and
alaska
2000: 4-0 in favor of jolas and pop cola
2001: 2-1 in favor of jolas and pop cola
2002: 6-4 including a 4-3 win in the governors cup finals in favor
of alvin and purefoods
OVERALL: 53-43 in head2head games in favor of jolas. 3-2 in finals
meeting still in favor of jolas. 5-3 in playoff duels still in favor
of jolas. so in this great match-up between 2 great players its
obvious that jolas has gotten the better of the match-up against
alvin. the only consolation for alvin is that he won the first and
last duel against jolas. but for most part it was jolas who
dominated alvin. since 1991 jolas has won 9 championships including
a grandslam and 16 finals appearance while alvin would win 5 more
championships and 12 finals appearance. overall jolas has won 10
titles in 21 finals stints while alvin has won 6 titles in 16 finals
stints but would win 4 mvp's.

1990 Third Conference Finals (Best of 5 series)
#2 Purefoods - no.1 in offense
#1 Alaska - no.1 in defense
Playdates: December 10,13,15,17,20
Game 1: Alaska 105 Purefoods 103
Game 2: Alaska 118 Purefoods 112
Game 3: Purefoods 117 Alaska 103
Game 4: Purefoods 104 Alaska 99 (ot)
Game 5: Purefoods 99 Alaska 98

Series story:
alaska was having a long rest bcoz they defeated pfoods in the last
game of the semis 114-107 to win the three way tie braker against
purefoods and shell. purefoods needed to overcome a 12pt halftime
deficit against shell in the knockout match to win 121-101 and earn
a shot at winning their 1st title in the pba. going into the series
purefoods and alaska were even at 2-2 in their head2head in that
conference. both has never won a title. alaska made it to the finals
for the 1st time since 1987 while purefoods has lost their first 4
trips to the finals.
Game 1: alvarez buzzer beating lay-up won it for alaska
Game 2: winston crites defense and alvarez offense was simply too
much for purefoods to handle
Game 3: alvarez got injured in the 2nd quarter and that spelled doom
for alaska as they never recovered in this series. lastimosa
exploded the entire game to extend the series to another game
Game 4: elmer cabahug's 2 3pt shots tied the game at 95-95 and
forced overtime but best import darren queenan exploded in overtime
to force a deciding game
Game 5: it was tight all the way and with the score at 96-95 in
purefoods favor coach baby dalupan called for a timeout and set up a
critical play with 37 seconds left in the game. al solis drilled a
trey with 14 seconds left to give purefoods a 99-95 lead. frankie
lim hit a 3pt shot with 8 seconds left pulled alaska to within 99-98
but with alaska far away from penalty purefoods wasted the clock and
celebrated their 1st ever title. tim cone was so angry and mad that
he keep on shouting and cursing in the locker room and noone among
the sportscasters would dare to enter that alaska locker room. it
was like hell with the locker room getting smashed to pieces. baby
dalupan would retire with 15 titles including 2 grandslams under his
belt. who would have thought that this showdown would be the 1st of
6 finals duel and the start of a lot of playoff encounters in their
history.

with menk best best player and finals mvp in the fiesta 1 and phil
cup it would be total injustice if he losses the mvp title.
rich alvarez has every reason to win the rookie of the year title.
shell is a winner while purefoods is a loser. alvarez and shell beat
yap and purefoods twice in the playoffs. alvarez was getting the
playing time and he has played more games and more minutes than yap.
Purefoods made history by losing 41 games in a single season. there
seems to be no move by the purefoods management to replace the
coaching staff and the ineffective players in the team. could this
be a case of "awa", "pusong mamon", "utang na loob", "paki-usap"
or "sipsip" kaya dehins naaalis ang mga undeserving sa team?
purefoods keeps on planning to get big men and yet they keep on
hiring small players. purefoods obviously is no match for teams that
have big line-ups simply because they keep getting smaller by
trading their big players and getting small ones. in a generation
were big men really dominate like for instance the top 5 teams this
fiesta 2 smb, tnt, shell, red bull and alaska all 5 of them have big
line-ups. same thing in the philippine cup. purefoods will lose most
of the time to big teams.
the current purefoods team has size from the 1st to the 4th
position. the problem is gregorio is not using that height advantage
but instead opted for his losing game plan by going small and
totally belittling his opponents and it resulted in purefoods
getting beaten up badly.
gregorio set a franchise record by winning game 7 in 2002. he set a
franchise record by winning only 9 games in 2003. he set a pba
record by losing 41 games in 2004-05. now what would be gregorio's
new franchise or pba record in 2005-06 season be? will it be good or
bad? i would not bet on the good side coz he is a loser!

What so good about being ranked at the bottom half and not performing
to the team's potential? Ahh maybe getting a high draft pick :)That's
all the consolation we have for the past couple of years with
Gregorio calling the shots.

I bet the coach and the team governor doesn't have the balls anymore
to read the messages in thie egroup coz all they'll see are vehement
reactions of fans for retaining the services of a dumb headed coach.

--- In teampurefoods@yahoogroups.com, Che Geronimo <charmedbops@y...>
wrote:
> Thank You for a good season
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
> The 2004-2005 PBA season has just ended and the team would just
like to extend its gratitude to all of those who supported us to the
last game.  Maraming Maraming Salamat po!!
>
> We fought to the end but we failed to reach the semi-finals.
>
> We offer no excuses, we practiced and prepared hard for each game
but as the saying goes "you can't win them all".
>
> The team is basically a young team and we have eight players
expiring in 2005, and the coaching staff is taking a look at the
composition of the team, to make it more competitive in the coming
2005-2006 PBA Season which starts in October, 2005.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Purefoods TJ hotdogs Team
>
> ---------
>
> Rene Pardo
> 30.06.05
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From Hardcourt Star To (Reluctant) Leading Man

First posted 09:01am (Mla time) July 03, 2005
By Jasmine W. Payo
Inquirer News Service

Editor's Note: Published on page Q5 of the July 3, 2005 issue of the
Philippine Daily Inquirer

THE COACH has a well-meaning reminder: Don't lose your focus,
Purefoods tactician Ryan Gregorio tells his rookie player.

The coach's advice couldn't be more timely for James Carlos Yap who
has always worked on his game with passion.

Hoping to make it big in pro basketball, Yap is certainly on the
right track after making a strong impression in his freshman year as
Purefoods' swingman. But the biggest thing that happened to this 23-
year-old cager didn't happen on the hard court.

The news came in a Sunday slam-bang TV revelation: Yap recently
hooked up with you-know-who. (Okay, it's Kris Aquino, for those who
just stepped out of a monastery.) And Aquino's surprising
announcement of their engagement caused so much tabloid frenzy that
Yap's phone number is suddenly on every entertainments writer's speed
dial.

But Yap-and his manager Dondon Monteverde-have been so elusive these
days that it would have been easier to interview President Gloria M.
Arroyo.

"I dont think he'll talk," says Boysie Zamar, Yap's former coach in
the University of the East. "Sobrang mahiyain yun (he's very shy)."

Shy away

In fact, no ambush interview could get a word out of Aquino's current
squeeze. As one story goes, a persistent reporter waited for him
after a game but Yap just walked on, appearing to have heard none of
the writer's questions.

"He's a misinterpreted person," insists Gregorio. "People mistake his
being silent for being a snob. But he's really shy. He has a tendency
to shy away from crowds."

So even if his name has become as ubiquitous as Aquino's face in
Edsa , Yap is apparently trying to maintain his low profile. And
right now, everyone has to be content that Yap is just everywhere but
nowhere.

There's no denying, however, that Yap makes his presence felt every
time he steps on court.

By the simple numbers, the 6'3" player averages 15.5 points and 5.4
rebounds. He's considered one of the top three-point shooters in the
league, and barely misses at the free throw line (fourth-best at 81.9
percent).

As Inquirer sports columnist Al Mendoza once wrote: "In Yap, you have
an explosive natural forward who can win games if he wants to. You
will need the likes of the late Ed Ocampo to stop him from scoring
baskets at will."

Although Gregorio believes there's still room to fine tune Yap's
offensive game, the young mentor is effusive with praises for his
controversial ward.

"He's a complete package," notes Gregorio. "He's still working on his
shot selection, but I'm sure his improvement will come as the years
go by. The way he plays defense also amazes me."

Gregorio, in fact, had long eyed the young shooter. And he had his
wish when Purefoods selected Yap as the second overall pick in the
2004 PBA draft.

"Two months before the draft, I had already decided that I was
picking James no matter what," Gregorio reveals. "I've seen him in
college and in the PBL and he really has this ability to score."

For Yap, it was the most thrilling experience of his career. On top
of that, he got the longest contract and the biggest paycheck among
the rookies-an P11-million agreement spread over three years and nine
months.

"Joining the PBA is the fulfillment of my longtime dream," he said in
a previous Inquirer interview. "I tell myself, wala akong pupuntahan
kung hindi sa baba (I have nowhere to go but down). So I practice a
lot, discipline myself and really play my best."

This hoop dream, though, all started in Escalante, Negros Occidental.
Born on Feb. 15, 1982, Yap grew up a very athletic kid. "We live near
the town plaza," he shared in that earlier interview. "Everyday, my
friends and I would play at the plaza's basketball court."

But it took a while before Yap played in an organized league. At Mt.
Carmel School in Negros Occidental, there was no varsity basketball
squad for eager elementary students like him.

"I joined the baseball team instead," shared Yap, who took on
numerous sports including volleyball, soccer, football and track and
field. "It was fun. That year, the school even sent us to compete in
the Palarong Pambansa."

Most valuable player

Yap then moved to the Chinese Commercial High School in Iloilo City,
where he gained a lot of exposure. Soon, he got Manila-based college
scouts flying south after winning the Most Valuable Player award in
the National Secondary cage championship in 2000.

It was the University of the East, however, which eventually snagged
him after battling it out with three other UAAP schools.

"He's very meek and humble but he's a competitor on court," recalls
Zamar, who mentored Yap for three years.

The UE Warriors counted heavily on his abilities, and Yap responded
by flashing his hot shooting hands. Although he never led his team to
the Finals, there was no question about his individual talent when he
bagged the 2003 MVP plum in his senior year.

It proved to be Yap's banner season, as he also played a key role in
the RP Team's gold-medal victory in the 2003 Southeast Asian Games in
Vietnam.

Thus, it seemed the most opportune time for Yap to move on to the
pros. Yet many were still surprised when he decided to skip his fifth
and final eligibility year in the UAAP for the PBA rookie draft.

For Yap, the decision was made easier when Zamar got fired as UE head
coach. "I reminded him that his loyalty is to the school, not to me,"
Zamar says . "I told him to stay for one more year because with him,
the team was consistent in the Final Four. Pero kung ano ang gusto
niya, gusto niya (What he wants, he wants)."

The image may conjure a hard-headed Yap, but it's in fact far from
true. As Zamar attests, the beefy cager remains a "do-gooder" who
seems unaffected by the fame and honor coming his way.

Not only does Yap contribute to his family's finances, Zamar says, he
also lends support to aspiring players.

"The less privileged players, kinukupkop niya (he'd take in)," shares
Zamar. "When he was playing in the PBL, there were players from the
province living with him. There were even Team B players from UE. I
was surprised. He was helping other players."

Apparently, such kindness also translates on court. "What I admire in
him is he's level-headed," says Gregorio. "Even if he knows he's the
target and opponents play physical with him, he's cool-headed.
Maganda ang persona ng bata."

Unfortunately, Yap's "nice jock" personality doesn't fit in the
extroverted world of showbiz. "He has to improve on his ability to
communicate especially now that he's immersed not just in
basketball," Gregorio surmises.

Yet even his coach agrees that it does take time to understand a
complex player like Yap.

"I deal with him on court the same way I do off court," says
Gregorio. "He rarely opens his mouth. He just shows what he can do.
So I don't really have to motivate him through words. I just have to
remind him."

So how in the world did this reserved cager ask for the Queen of
Talk's hand in marriage? No one knows for sure. Well, at least, not
until Aquino's next tell-all talk show.

Recently, Aquino did share highlights of their strange, 11-year-gap
relationship. In one of those national TV confessions that everyone
has grown accustomed to, she said, "It's hard to be honest to a Kris
Aquino. Si James ang unang lalaking nagkaroon ng paninindigan para
sabihin kung ano siya at ano ang kanyang nakaraan. (James was the
first man who had the integrity to tell me what he is and what his
past was like.) And for that, I love him."

A reformed and candid James Yap? Or maybe, one does become loquacious
in love.

gregorio does not even know what he needs to build a competitive team.
he traded mamaril and siegle last year. so guys dont be surprised if
he trades artadi, simon or castillo. wala naman alam iyan eh... kundi
maging talunan ang purefoods.
   SAME COACH = SAME RESULTS

--- In teampurefoods@yahoogroups.com, loydgee james andaya
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> yeah! we do appreciate all the efforts that the team had during the
campaign. we're hoping for a better campaign next season. purefoods
fans will always be here. GO PUREFOODS!!!
>
> Che Geronimo <charmedbops@y...> wrote:Thank You for a good season
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
> The 2004-2005 PBA season has just ended and the team would just like
to extend its gratitude to all of those who supported us to the last
game.  Maraming Maraming Salamat po!!
>
> We fought to the end but we failed to reach the semi-finals.
>
> We offer no excuses, we practiced and prepared hard for each game
but as the saying goes "you can't win them all".
>
> The team is basically a young team and we have eight players
expiring in 2005, and the coaching staff is taking a look at the
composition of the team, to make it more competitive in the coming
2005-2006 PBA Season which starts in October, 2005.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Purefoods TJ hotdogs Team
>
> ---------
>
> Rene Pardo
> 30.06.05
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ano iyan, you still have plans on retaining gregorio? mr. pardo what
you're doing is for the benefit of 1(gregorio) at the expense of
others(fans).
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--- In teampurefoods@yahoogroups.com, Che Geronimo <charmedbops@y...>
wrote:
> Thank You for a good season
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
> The 2004-2005 PBA season has just ended and the team would just like
to extend its gratitude to all of those who supported us to the last
game.  Maraming Maraming Salamat po!!
>
> We fought to the end but we failed to reach the semi-finals.
>
> We offer no excuses, we practiced and prepared hard for each game
but as the saying goes "you can't win them all".
>
> The team is basically a young team and we have eight players
expiring in 2005, and the coaching staff is taking a look at the
composition of the team, to make it more competitive in the coming
2005-2006 PBA Season which starts in October, 2005.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Purefoods TJ hotdogs Team
>
> ---------
>
> Rene Pardo
> 30.06.05
>
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If the votings favored over Rich Alvarez for the top rookie plum, he maybe
deserve it, for James Yap there's more season to come and not winning the ROY is
not the end for his career, James had did his job well done only last conference
maybe because injury plague him durng his 1st conf stint! He infact ranked #11
in the BPC, a quite good job and he help the TJ hotdogs to enter the Quarter
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yeah! we do appreciate all the efforts that the team had during the campaign.
we're hoping for a better campaign next season. purefoods fans will always be
here. GO PUREFOODS!!!

Che Geronimo <charmedbops@...> wrote:Thank You for a good season


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The 2004-2005 PBA season has just ended and the team would just like to extend
its gratitude to all of those who supported us to the last game.  Maraming
Maraming Salamat po!!

We fought to the end but we failed to reach the semi-finals.

We offer no excuses, we practiced and prepared hard for each game but as the
saying goes "you can't win them all".

The team is basically a young team and we have eight players expiring in 2005,
and the coaching staff is taking a look at the composition of the team, to make
it more competitive in the coming 2005-2006 PBA Season which starts in October,
2005.

Thank you very much.

Purefoods TJ hotdogs Team

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Thank You for a good season


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The 2004-2005 PBA season has just ended and the team would just like to extend
its gratitude to all of those who supported us to the last game.  Maraming
Maraming Salamat po!!

We fought to the end but we failed to reach the semi-finals.

We offer no excuses, we practiced and prepared hard for each game but as the
saying goes "you can't win them all".

The team is basically a young team and we have eight players expiring in 2005,
and the coaching staff is taking a look at the composition of the team, to make
it more competitive in the coming 2005-2006 PBA Season which starts in October,
2005.

Thank you very much.

Purefoods TJ hotdogs Team

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Five-way fight for MVP plum
By Dominic Menor

2005-07-03 21:30:22
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TWO KINGS, two Phone Pals and a Beerman are the five hottest candidates vying
for the Most Valuable Player plum of the 30th season of the PBA.



With Ginebra winning the two previous tournament in the season, Mark Caguioa and
Eric made a strong case for the top individual plum.

In their history, no King has ever taken home the MVP.

The Talk ’N Text starting backcourt tandem of Jimmy Alapag and Willie Miller and
San Miguel forward Nic Belasco complete the five choices.

Though the Kings were ousted in the current Fiesta Conference, Caguioa still
emerged the frontrunner in the statistical points category, tallying 1,852 SPs.
Miller, the SPs leader for the conference Best Player, is a close second with
1,827 followed by Menk’s 1,824.

The five lead 20 other players vying for a slot in the elite 10-man Mythical
Selection.

Among the five, however, only Miller, the 2002 MVP, could take home at least
three awards.

He is one of three candidates for the Sportsmanship Award.

Two Purefoods freshmen are up for Rookie of the Year honors but Shell forward
Rich Alvarez (1,183) is the frontrunner in the SPs category.

Hotdogs guards Janes Yap and Paul Artadi join Alvarez together with Alaska
center Sonny Thoss and FedEx forward Ranidel de Ocampo.

Statistical points account for 30 percent of the MVP selection process.

Players’ votes and sports media votes take in 30 percent each while a four-man
committee accounts for the remaining 10 percent.

The committee is composed of one representative each from the Philippine
Sportswriters Association,PBA television coveror ABC-5, the photographers’ group
and the SCOOP.

The awards night is set before Game Four on July 8 Friday at the Araneta
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NAMIN, GUD LUCK SA BAGO MONG CAREER, BYE GREGGY BOY...........

--- In teampurefoods@yahoogroups.com, "qwcdqwcd" <qwcdqwcd@y...>
wrote:
> yes, you're right w/ what you wrote. gregorio, actions speak louder
> than words. ang problema sa iyo puros ka da-da wala ka naman
> mabat-bat as coach. why dont you just RESIGN, and be a tv analyst
for
> the PBA, NCAA, UAAP and PBL as well. ANYWAY THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE
GOOD
> AT.............
>
>                  SAME COACH = SAME RESULTS
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In teampurefoods@yahoogroups.com, "some12k3" <some12k3@y...>
wrote:
> > Watching the game 1 championship between San Miguel and Talk and
Text.
> > TV analyst ang bobong coach ng PF. Mas bagay syang analyst kasi
puro
> > dada lang alam nya.
> >
> > Nagcomment pa ang kumag "One day Purefoods will be in the
> > championship". Yeah, PF will reach the championship under a new
coach.

yes, you're right w/ what you wrote. gregorio, actions speak louder
than words. ang problema sa iyo puros ka da-da wala ka naman
mabat-bat as coach. why dont you just RESIGN, and be a tv analyst for
the PBA, NCAA, UAAP and PBL as well. ANYWAY THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE GOOD
AT.............

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--- In teampurefoods@yahoogroups.com, "some12k3" <some12k3@y...> wrote:
> Watching the game 1 championship between San Miguel and Talk and Text.
> TV analyst ang bobong coach ng PF. Mas bagay syang analyst kasi puro
> dada lang alam nya.
>
> Nagcomment pa ang kumag "One day Purefoods will be in the
> championship". Yeah, PF will reach the championship under a new coach.

isipin nmn natin yung future ng PF, wag nlng puro kamalian.. wala pa
bang official list of candidates para sa 2005 rookie draft ngaun
august?????? kung meron pki reply nmn d2.

Hello sa inyong lahat!

    wla lang napansin ko lng po kse ito sa purefoods at
kya jun limpot ano po un. eto po ang mga ss.

1 Ryan
  - ang purefoods ay laging maganda ang performance at
nanalo ng championship kapag bago ang coach nila.
  - sa kanya lng lumala ang records ng purefoods ng
sobra (di ba kapag sobra na kailangang palitan
na?????)

2 Jun
  - scoring ok sya defense ???????
  - sta. lucia traded him nag champion ang sta lucia
  - ginebra traded him same result.
  - purefoods pinagretire sya grandslam hehehehehe sana

sino kaya sa kanila ang aalisin para mag champion ang
purefoods? si Coach ryan kaya o si june? pero sabi di
ba 2 heads is better than 1? parehas na lang kaya
silang sibakin( ang sama ng term eh no sibakin
hehehehe) nagtatanong lang po. parehas lng din po ako
ng maraming pfoods fans na pagod ng makitang nasa
ilalim ng standings ang team natin. peace po at god
bless us all. go purefoods. hi to bossing cap.




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very nice. by the way, where did you get all of these? the final
scores, quarter scores, number of points trailed etc?

patrimonio got ejected? hindi nga? bakit?

kelan pumasok si dwight lago?

kwento ka pa.


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> May 18, 1993 All-Filipino Conference Finals Game 6
> (Coney Island lead series 3-2)
> #3 Coney Is - 14 40 65 90 99
> #1 San Mig -- 29 45 78 90 96
> Coney Island Ice Cream Stars Win Series 4-2
>
> Starting 5
> Coney Island - pumaren, cabahug, capacio, patrimonio, codinera
> San Miguel - agustin, caidic, lim, dignadice, teng
>
> Series Story
> Coney Island lost to smb in the finals in 1988, 1989 and 1992. the
> last 2 losses were in the afc.
> Coney Island beat smb 2-1 in their head2head in the elims and
semis.
> heading into the finals smb was favored to win the series because
> coney island has never proven that they can win over smb. coney
> island started strong in game 1 leading 52-39 but smb led by caidic
> outscored coney 61-38 since to win 100-90 and lead 1-0. in game 2
> frankie lim hit a critical 3 pointer just when smb was about to
make
> another great comeback and coney hang on to a 104-95 win and tying
> the series at 1-1. in game 3 abe king grabbed 3 consecutive
> offensive rebounds down the stretch to help coney win 94-88 and
lead
> the series 2-1. it was the same result and situation they were in
> the 1992 afc finals. in game 4 coney knew that this is the most
> pivotal game and their only chance to beat smb. led by patrimonio
> coney climbed back from a double digit deficit in the 2nd half to
> escape with a 96-95 squeaker and a commanding 3-1 lead. coney
> avoided smb to repeat history by stealing a win in game 4. in game
5
> smb with a sense of urgency exploded early on led by samboy lim
they
> dominated the 1st half. in the 3rd quarter patrimonio led the
charge
> as coney came to within 6pts until that buzzer beating 3 from half
> court by samboy lim put the game away as smb won 106-91 to cut the
> deficit to 3-2. in game 6 smb again started very strong leading by
> 18pts at 27-9 late in the 1st quarter. patrimonio, codinera,
> cabahug, capacio and pumaren led the 2nd quarter comeback but smb
> once again pulled away in the 3rd with their veterans leading the
> way. in the 4th quarter patrimonio exploded but it was cabahug's
> medium range shot in the dying seconds of regulation that forced
the
> overtime. smb was still ahead in overtime at 94-92 until capacio's
> buzzer beating shot and patrimonio's trademark turnaround spin move
> gave coney the lead for good at 96-94. pumaren's fastbreak lay-up
> gave coney a 98-94 lead. smb had a chance to tie but caidic dribble
> off his left foot and coney went on to avenge their defeat against
> smb with a heartstopping 99-96 victory and a 4-2 series win. 1993
> was purefoods year against smb as they won 10-7 in the season
> series. before their showdown against smb in the finals coney had
to
> overcome a powerful swift team led by asaytono, solis and distrito
> and an emotional game 3 in which saw alvin get ejected and coney
> needing 2 overtimes and 2 big shots by pumaren to finally finish
> swift 3-0 in the playoffs.
> to win a championship by beating their great rival smb team and end
> that curse against smb in the finals is the sweetest thing ever!
> it's like johnson and the lakers ending that curse by putting the
> leprechauns to sleep by beating bird and the powerful celtics team
> in the '80s.
> i burst into tears when i saw purefoods get demolished by smb in
> game 7 of the 1992 afc finals 105-86 with jeffrey graves hitting 2
> straight threes to end the game and add insult to injury. smb was
> celebrating and laughing at purefoods. they keep on saying that
> pfoods will never beat smb in the finals.
> purefoods 1st and 6th titles were very memorable but noone beats
> this feeling that pfoods stunned smb in game 6 of the 1993 afc
> finals. it was the sweetest revenge ever!

Hindi na po new, he's been doing it for ages na.

some12k3 <some12k3@...> wrote:Watching the game 1 championship between San
Miguel and Talk and Text.
TV analyst ang bobong coach ng PF. Mas bagay syang analyst kasi puro
dada lang alam nya.

Nagcomment pa ang kumag "One day Purefoods will be in the
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This is a fact. For those Gregorio supporters who are "hurt" by the
truth, for his stupidity and PF Top Management's, well....

--- In teampurefoods@yahoogroups.com, ultimatecompetitormvp
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> in 2002 he helped purefoods get back to the champions circle by
> winning the decisive game 7 against alaska. but he flopped in the
> commissioner's cup as he started 1-7 enroute to a 9th place
finish.
> in 2003 he set dubious records as he helped purefoods become the
> worst team in the league. he failed by going 9-27. in 2004 he help
> purefoods win 25 games but he also helped purefoods set a pba
record
> with 41 losses.
> the possibility of gregorio failing us 3 times is a certainty. he
> has done well as a tv analyst and he may do a good job as coach of
> other basketball teams but not for purefoods. he is a failure the
> last 7 conferences and he is bound to add another failure.
> purefoods fired chot reyes a coach who won 135 games in just 4
> seasons with 2 titles and gave purefoods its 2 best season's ever
so
> why not replace gregorio who has given purefoods tremendous shame
by
> not making it to the semis 7 straight conferences and setting
> numerous records in futility. purefoods averaged 32.2 wins during
> their first 10 seasons in the league. they averaged 24 wins from
> 1998-01. during gregorio's time purefoods averaged 18.6 wins.
> purefoods never had a stretch were in the would be under 10
> games .500 and with gregorio purefoods was 41 games below .500 and
> counting.
> in 2002 gregorio was good. in 2003 he was horrible. in 2004-05 he
> was a nightmare.
> purefoods badly needs a very good coach. i hope they give koy
banal
> 1 season to prove his worth or find someone else but not magsanoc
> who is much worse than gregorio.
> i don't like gregorio for 5 reasons:
> 1.he doesn't take the blame for purefoods failure. he's pride make
> him not wanna admit his failure and instead he says its just that
> luck and opportunity was not in their way.
> 2.he adjusts very very slow. he keeps on making the same game plan
> and leo austria and shell gave gregorio and purefoods the same
> result.
> 3.he trades strong big men for shooting forwards. he was behind
the
> trade of seigle for limpot and mamaril for laure. purefoods
doesn't
> need softy shooters who when their shots does not click is useless.
> 4.he is not a lover of defensive big men and he just wants
shooting
> big men. like the trading of seigle and mamaril purefoods replaced
> antonio smith for a shooting import who was a flop against shell.
> the evidence of this thing is the acquisition of mike hrabak.
> gregorio loves shooters but when its game time he does not let
them
> take the shots. like for example the case of castillo who plays
> decoy instead of being the 2nd offensive option.
> 5.redundances at the 1 and 3 positions. purefoods is not filling
up
> the holes but instead is getting players in positions that they
> don't need. hrabak plays the 3. yee and evangelista also plays the
> 3. with laure who is more a 3 spot with james yap starting at the
3
> then you got 5 players fighting for that small forward. are they
> hiring players just for them to have a job? noone was looking at
> espinosa, simon and madrid in the free agency. noone even wanted
to
> make a trade for limpot. is there any team interested in spending
> millions of pesos for evangelista and laure? castro is just fair
but
> he needs practice in his shooting and he needs body strengthening.
> with espinosa at point guard then you got artadi unbelievable
> substituting for him with simon as the alternative and even
castillo
> if gregorio's trip and with the addition of madrid then you got 5
> players at the point.
> masarap kainin ang hotdog pero ang maging pulutan ng mga kalaban
ay
> nagiging habit ng purefoods. i'm sure one of the star players of
> purefoods is very mad at gregorio pero hindi niya ito masabi dahil
> may pusong noypi siya.

in 2002 he helped purefoods get back to the champions circle by
winning the decisive game 7 against alaska. but he flopped in the
commissioner's cup as he started 1-7 enroute to a 9th place finish.
in 2003 he set dubious records as he helped purefoods become the
worst team in the league. he failed by going 9-27. in 2004 he help
purefoods win 25 games but he also helped purefoods set a pba record
with 41 losses.
the possibility of gregorio failing us 3 times is a certainty. he
has done well as a tv analyst and he may do a good job as coach of
other basketball teams but not for purefoods. he is a failure the
last 7 conferences and he is bound to add another failure.
purefoods fired chot reyes a coach who won 135 games in just 4
seasons with 2 titles and gave purefoods its 2 best season's ever so
why not replace gregorio who has given purefoods tremendous shame by
not making it to the semis 7 straight conferences and setting
numerous records in futility. purefoods averaged 32.2 wins during
their first 10 seasons in the league. they averaged 24 wins from
1998-01. during gregorio's time purefoods averaged 18.6 wins.
purefoods never had a stretch were in the would be under 10
games .500 and with gregorio purefoods was 41 games below .500 and
counting.
in 2002 gregorio was good. in 2003 he was horrible. in 2004-05 he
was a nightmare.
purefoods badly needs a very good coach. i hope they give koy banal
1 season to prove his worth or find someone else but not magsanoc
who is much worse than gregorio.
i don't like gregorio for 5 reasons:
1.he doesn't take the blame for purefoods failure. he's pride make
him not wanna admit his failure and instead he says its just that
luck and opportunity was not in their way.
2.he adjusts very very slow. he keeps on making the same game plan
and leo austria and shell gave gregorio and purefoods the same
result.
3.he trades strong big men for shooting forwards. he was behind the
trade of seigle for limpot and mamaril for laure. purefoods doesn't
need softy shooters who when their shots does not click is useless.
4.he is not a lover of defensive big men and he just wants shooting
big men. like the trading of seigle and mamaril purefoods replaced
antonio smith for a shooting import who was a flop against shell.
the evidence of this thing is the acquisition of mike hrabak.
gregorio loves shooters but when its game time he does not let them
take the shots. like for example the case of castillo who plays
decoy instead of being the 2nd offensive option.
5.redundances at the 1 and 3 positions. purefoods is not filling up
the holes but instead is getting players in positions that they
don't need. hrabak plays the 3. yee and evangelista also plays the
3. with laure who is more a 3 spot with james yap starting at the 3
then you got 5 players fighting for that small forward. are they
hiring players just for them to have a job? noone was looking at
espinosa, simon and madrid in the free agency. noone even wanted to
make a trade for limpot. is there any team interested in spending
millions of pesos for evangelista and laure? castro is just fair but
he needs practice in his shooting and he needs body strengthening.
with espinosa at point guard then you got artadi unbelievable
substituting for him with simon as the alternative and even castillo
if gregorio's trip and with the addition of madrid then you got 5
players at the point.
masarap kainin ang hotdog pero ang maging pulutan ng mga kalaban ay
nagiging habit ng purefoods. i'm sure one of the star players of
purefoods is very mad at gregorio pero hindi niya ito masabi dahil
may pusong noypi siya.

Alam mo ilang conferences nang kulelat ang Purefoods at coach na
lang ang hindi pinapalitan.Laging isang conferences na po and
counting.Kayong mga supporter ni Gregorio ang makikitid ang utak at
marapat tawaging TANGA.Kundi ba naman kayo GAGO nagpapauto kayo kay
Gregorio.Manood ka ng game mabuti ha at sabihin mo sa aming mga anti
Gregorio kung hindi BOBO ang sinasanto nyong Coach.


--- In teampurefoods@yahoogroups.com, Lanie Panganiban
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> Alam mo hindi siguro maganda kung magsasalita ka pa ng mga bagay
na akala mo talagang alam mo.Sino sa tingin mo ang BOBO sa inyong
dalawa?IKAW NA laging napapasin ang mali ng ibang tao at
nagpapanggap na supporter ng PF.Lahat ng Coaches nae-experience ang
lahat ng Struggles na dumadaan sa kanya at sa team nya.Alam mo bang
tuwing game nila nakikita ko sa mukha nya na laging may kulang sa
kanya.Siguro di mo yon nakikita yon  dahil ikaw ang BOBO at MAKITID
ang utak.HE ALWAYS TRY HIS BEST kaya huwag mo syang husgahan.Hindi
hinuhusgahan sinasabi ko lang kung ANO KA AT SINO KA.
>
> some12k3 <some12k3@y...> wrote:Watching the game 1 championship
between San Miguel and Talk and Text.
> TV analyst ang bobong coach ng PF. Mas bagay syang analyst kasi
puro
> dada lang alam nya.
>
> Nagcomment pa ang kumag "One day Purefoods will be in the
> championship". Yeah, PF will reach the championship under a new
coach.
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Purefoods after 18 seasons and their All-Purefoods 1st, 2nd and 3rd
Team

POSITION:--------1ST TEAM----------2ND TEAM---------3RD TEAM
Point Guard------Dindo Pumaren-----Noy Castillo-----Al Solis
Shooting Guard---Glenn Capacio-----Jojo Lastimosa---Elmer Cabahug
Small Forward----Rey Evangelista---Nelson Asaytono--James Yap
Power Forward----Alvin Patrimonio--Kerby Raymundo---Zandro Limpot
Center-----------Jerry Codinera----Ramon Fernandez--Andy Seigle

Current Purefoods Team (Gregorio rotation style)
POSITION:--------Starting Unit-----2nd Unit---------3rd Unit
Point Guard------Tony Boy Espinosa-Paul Artadi------Madrid
Shooting Guard---Noy Castillo------Jun Simon--------
Small Forward----James Yap---------Rey Evangelista--
Power Forward----Zandro Limpot-----Richard Yee------Laure
Center-----------Kerby Raymundo----Mike Hrabak------Castro

it is quite obvious that gregorio's rotation is bad and undefined
roles. kerby is a natural 4. Hrabak is simply best at 3. Laure's
addition gives a lot of redundances in the 3 spot. castillo and
simon are so undersized at 2. espinosa and madrid diminishes the
time and confidence of artadi. undefined roles, the lack of a
natural center and undersized players in each position makes
purefoods a very disorganized team.
If these same players will be back for purefoods next season then
don't expect miracles to happen. it just gets worse each year. they
will surely not make it to the semis. with taulava back in tnt, menk
will be back for sure in ginebra and smb at full force with alaska,
red bull and shell improving each conference purefoods would be
lucky to finish at no.6 in the coming philippine cup.
i don't see any major changes in the purefoods team. in fact i don't
see any changes at all. the losing formula is still in their blood
and if they don't revamp quickly chances are their sickness will
only get worse and worse and it will become a very infectious habit
and they will be in a real big hole. purefoods is in their worst
stretch ever. 40-81 in the last 8 conferences. the ratio is 1:2 in
every 3 games played for a 33% winning percentage. i'm sicked and
tired of losing. i want purefoods to be back among the elite teams
of the pba just like in the good old days of alvin.

May 18, 1993 All-Filipino Conference Finals Game 6
(Coney Island lead series 3-2)
#3 Coney Is - 14 40 65 90 99
#1 San Mig -- 29 45 78 90 96
Coney Island Ice Cream Stars Win Series 4-2

Starting 5
Coney Island - pumaren, cabahug, capacio, patrimonio, codinera
San Miguel - agustin, caidic, lim, dignadice, teng

Series Story
Coney Island lost to smb in the finals in 1988, 1989 and 1992. the
last 2 losses were in the afc.
Coney Island beat smb 2-1 in their head2head in the elims and semis.
heading into the finals smb was favored to win the series because
coney island has never proven that they can win over smb. coney
island started strong in game 1 leading 52-39 but smb led by caidic
outscored coney 61-38 since to win 100-90 and lead 1-0. in game 2
frankie lim hit a critical 3 pointer just when smb was about to make
another great comeback and coney hang on to a 104-95 win and tying
the series at 1-1. in game 3 abe king grabbed 3 consecutive
offensive rebounds down the stretch to help coney win 94-88 and lead
the series 2-1. it was the same result and situation they were in
the 1992 afc finals. in game 4 coney knew that this is the most
pivotal game and their only chance to beat smb. led by patrimonio
coney climbed back from a double digit deficit in the 2nd half to
escape with a 96-95 squeaker and a commanding 3-1 lead. coney
avoided smb to repeat history by stealing a win in game 4. in game 5
smb with a sense of urgency exploded early on led by samboy lim they
dominated the 1st half. in the 3rd quarter patrimonio led the charge
as coney came to within 6pts until that buzzer beating 3 from half
court by samboy lim put the game away as smb won 106-91 to cut the
deficit to 3-2. in game 6 smb again started very strong leading by
18pts at 27-9 late in the 1st quarter. patrimonio, codinera,
cabahug, capacio and pumaren led the 2nd quarter comeback but smb
once again pulled away in the 3rd with their veterans leading the
way. in the 4th quarter patrimonio exploded but it was cabahug's
medium range shot in the dying seconds of regulation that forced the
overtime. smb was still ahead in overtime at 94-92 until capacio's
buzzer beating shot and patrimonio's trademark turnaround spin move
gave coney the lead for good at 96-94. pumaren's fastbreak lay-up
gave coney a 98-94 lead. smb had a chance to tie but caidic dribble
off his left foot and coney went on to avenge their defeat against
smb with a heartstopping 99-96 victory and a 4-2 series win. 1993
was purefoods year against smb as they won 10-7 in the season
series. before their showdown against smb in the finals coney had to
overcome a powerful swift team led by asaytono, solis and distrito
and an emotional game 3 in which saw alvin get ejected and coney
needing 2 overtimes and 2 big shots by pumaren to finally finish
swift 3-0 in the playoffs.
to win a championship by beating their great rival smb team and end
that curse against smb in the finals is the sweetest thing ever!
it's like johnson and the lakers ending that curse by putting the
leprechauns to sleep by beating bird and the powerful celtics team
in the '80s.
i burst into tears when i saw purefoods get demolished by smb in
game 7 of the 1992 afc finals 105-86 with jeffrey graves hitting 2
straight threes to end the game and add insult to injury. smb was
celebrating and laughing at purefoods. they keep on saying that
pfoods will never beat smb in the finals.
purefoods 1st and 6th titles were very memorable but noone beats
this feeling that pfoods stunned smb in game 6 of the 1993 afc
finals. it was the sweetest revenge ever!

Alam mo hindi siguro maganda kung magsasalita ka pa ng mga bagay na akala mo
talagang alam mo.Sino sa tingin mo ang BOBO sa inyong dalawa?IKAW NA laging
napapasin ang mali ng ibang tao at nagpapanggap na supporter ng PF.Lahat ng
Coaches nae-experience ang lahat ng Struggles na dumadaan sa kanya at sa team
nya.Alam mo bang tuwing game nila nakikita ko sa mukha nya na laging may kulang
sa kanya.Siguro di mo yon nakikita yon  dahil ikaw ang BOBO at MAKITID ang
utak.HE ALWAYS TRY HIS BEST kaya huwag mo syang husgahan.Hindi hinuhusgahan
sinasabi ko lang kung ANO KA AT SINO KA.

some12k3 <some12k3@...> wrote:Watching the game 1 championship between San
Miguel and Talk and Text.
TV analyst ang bobong coach ng PF. Mas bagay syang analyst kasi puro
dada lang alam nya.

Nagcomment pa ang kumag "One day Purefoods will be in the
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talagang alam mo.Sino sa tingin mo ang BOBO sa inyong dalawa?IKAW NA laging
napapasin ang mali ng ibang tao at nagpapanggap na supporter ng PF.Lahat ng
Coaches nae-experience ang lahat ng Struggles na dumadaan sa kanya at sa team
nya.Alam mo bang tuwing game nila nakikita ko sa mukha nya na laging may kulang
sa kanya.Siguro di mo yon nakikita yon  dahil ikaw ang BOBO at MAKITID ang
utak.HE ALWAYS TRY HIS BEST kaya huwag mo syang husgahan.Hindi hinuhusgahan
sinasabi ko lang kung ANO KA AT SINO KA.

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Miguel and Talk and Text.
TV analyst ang bobong coach ng PF. Mas bagay syang analyst kasi puro
dada lang alam nya.

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Ryan Gregorio keeps hiring small players like madrid, espinosa,
simon at the guard spot and laure (power forward) and limpot for pf
and c position). they don't need this crap players. what purefoods
should look for is a tall and wide bodied big man. they should have
gone for allado when alaska was making a trade for him. purefoods
keeps getting smaller and their chances also gets smaller. castillo,
artadi at point guard with james yap at the backcourt is enough.
like detroit having hamilton, billups and hunter and san antonio's
ginobilli, parker and bowen. had gregorio exposed this trio more
instead of letting everybody play purefoods should have won more
games. yee and hrabak are quality big men but gregorio seems to
believe more on laure and evangelista. evangelista and laure can box
out noone with their slim size. limpot is so so softttttty!!!!!!
purefoods needs a hard nose defender and not a commercial model.
crisano and/or wallkvist could be a great addition to purefoods next
season. they are big men who can complement raymundo at the
frontcourt. with limpot purefoods has no natural center to match
against taulava, aquino, seigle and de ocampo.
purefoods doesn't need a scoring center coz they already has the
scorers to do the job. they only need a defensive center who can hit
jumpshots like codinera.
purefoods doesn't need a lot of backcourt players coz its gonna
diminish the playing time of their star players. they don't need a
lot of point guards. all they need is to trust their playmakers
castillo and artadi. artadi, yap and hrabak has great potentials. we
know what yee and castillo can do whenever they get the playing time.
purefoods should focus at getting 2 quality centers and a quality
back-up guard who's tall and can shoot consistently unlike simon who
is very turn over prone and very inconsistent.
a coaching revamp must be first made to start a process. then fill
up the holes in their roster.
purefoods believes in so many stuffs:
1.one title a year is enough (everyone except pfoods wants a
grandslam)
2.let everyone play first before focusing on winning the game
3.get a good looking player for a good marketing business even if he
doesn't deserve to be in the team
4.get a lot of guards to find the right combinations (it took them
several years and they have not found an answer until now) the
answer for me is castillo, artadi and yap exposed a lot.
5.blames luck and opportunity for the misfortunes of the team when
it is no secret that it is the front office fault for this
disastrious record
6.loyalty. it really hurts pfoods future. they traded codinera in
the past after playing for 10 seasons with them so why not trade
evangelista while he still has something left.

The Purefoods coaching records after they win a championship:
1.Baby Dalupan - 60-49 when he won a title and 8-8 since
2.Ely Capacio - 17-13 when he won a title and 25-32 since
3.Chot Reyes - 71-45 when he won 2 titles and 64-71 since
4.Eric Altamirano - 18-10 when he won a title and 49-61 since
5.Ryan Gregorio - 16-8 when he won a title and 37-73 since
it's plain and simple. the words coming out of the mouth of the top
officials of purefoods says it all. one title is enough. after these
words purefoods killer instinct vanishes. they never recovered.

Ryan Gregorio is setting franchise and pba records in futility and a
fluke success each year. after duplicating the feat of chot reyes
and eric altamirano by winning a fluke title in 2002 he has
struggled a lot since. in 2003 he set a franchise record 9 wins and
36 games played in a season. in that same year he set another
franchise record 0 win and only 4 games played and finished 14th
place in the invitationals. also purefoods was once down by 46pts to
coca cola in the all-filipino. it was the worst of the worst in
franchise history. in 2004-05 he set a pba record with 41 losses in
a single season. he also set a franchise record 15 losses in 1
conference. his 14 losses this conference is franchise 2nd worst for
most losses in a conference. purefoods 0-6 record against smb marks
the 1st time they never beat smb in a season. in 2003 purefoods was
blanked by several teams another franchise record.
Ryan Gregorio does not have what it takes to be a great winner. only
a grandslam championship will make me forget all his futility
records.

Tracking down the list of purefoods coaches thru the years:
1.Ramon Fernandez (1988 1st and 2nd conference) - 29-18 in 2
conferences. 2 finals stints.
2.Cris Calilan (1988 afc game 3 - 89 1st conference eliminations) -
5-17 in 3 conferences. went blank in the '88 afc finals. eliminated
once.
3.Baby Dalupan (1989 1st conference semis - 1991 1st conference
semis) - 68-57 in 6 conferences with 1 title and 2 finals stints.
eliminated just once.
4.Ely Capacio (1991 1st conference semis - 1992 2nd conference) - 42-
45 in 5 conferences. 1 title and 2 finals stints. eliminated twice.
5.(1992 Team manager ???)- 7-13 record in the 3rd conference.
6.Chot Reyes (1993-96) - 135-116 record in 12 conferences with 2
titles and 5 finals stints. he was never eliminated.
7.Eric Altamirano (1997-98 afc and 2001-02 afc) - 67-71 in 8
conferences. 1 title and 2 finals stints. eliminated thrice.
8.Chito Narvasa (1998 2nd and 3rd conference) - 19-19 in 2
conferences. 3rd place trophy. never eliminated.
9.Derrick Pumaren (1999-00) - 47-49 in 6 conferences. 2 finals
stints. eliminated once.
10.Ryan Gregorio (2002 afc, comm cup and 2003-05) - 53-81 in 8
conferences. 1 title. never made it to the semis the last 7
conferences. eliminated twice.
11.Ronald Magsanoc (2003 reinforced conf elims) - 0-2 with 2 blowout
losses. your not that kinda coach.

alam naman nating lahat na mababa ang nakuha natin this
conference...ciguro dapat d muna palitan si coach.. kasi di mo naman
mahuhusgahan ang isang tao. katulad ni eric altamirano di ba siya din
ang pinakabatang coach dati pero di nagtagtal napagchampion niya rin
ang purefoods.. sa katunayan malaks ang coaching staff natin may koy
banal ka na sa depensa tapos ryan at si ronnie sa opensa.. alam niyo
kung ano ang problema ng purefoods???lagi silang di kumpleto ang line-
up lagi na lang may injured.. tingnan mo lagi silang talo kasi kulang
kulang ang player nila.kaya give ryan gregorio a chance.because a
healthy team can win a game..

Watching the game 1 championship between San Miguel and Talk and Text.
TV analyst ang bobong coach ng PF. Mas bagay syang analyst kasi puro
dada lang alam nya.

Nagcomment pa ang kumag "One day Purefoods will be in the
championship". Yeah, PF will reach the championship under a new coach.

Purefoods is nearly complete in their starting 5 unit. with castillo
at the point guard, james yap at shooting guard, hrabak at small
forward and raymundo at power forward all they need now is a tall
and strong center. had purefoods grab yancy de ocampo their starting
unit could have and should have been an all-star 5.
Limpot is not a center. although he played center in dlsu and in sta
lucia in his first 2 seasons since then he has never played the
center position. the purefoods organization was looking for a center
and yet when they had one they just let it go away.
paul artadi needs a lot of practice in his shooting. yap, hrabak and
castillo needs to get exposed a lot coz they are the teams' main
offensive weapons. raymundo needs a big partner in the froncourt
like patrimonio having codinera in the past.
how can the fans of purefoods trust ryan gregorio and the front
office if it is they who lacks the trust in their own star players.
castillo has proven that he can be the best point guard in the pba
by having a superstar season in 2001. castillo is too small to play
shooting guard while yap is too small for small forward and shell
proved it twice this year that gregorio's small line-up is simply no
match for leo austria's tall line-up. had gregorio used castillo and
yap at the backcourt and hrabak, raymundo and their import at the
front court instead of hrabak watching purefoods could have made it
to the semis. gregorio belittled shell twice and he pays the price.
a small line-up is no match for a tall line-up. it is no wonder why
purefoods went 0-6 against smb this season. they went 1-5 each
against alaska and tnt. they lost 5 of their last 7 meetings against
shell. gregorio always underestimates tall teams. he believes that a
small line-up will outran their opponents but how can they speed up
the tempo if they cannot grab the rebound?
purefoods needs to change their game plan. no more slow tempo style.
with artadi, castillo, yap and raymundo who loves to quicken the
pace of the game its time to change styles and systems. yee needs to
get more exposure just like in 2001. evangelista, limpot, espinosa,
madrid and laure are just too thin and not that tall to bang bodies
and to crash the boards. noone among them is boxing out and thats
one reason why they could not win against tall teams.
shell's 2 wins against purefoods in the quarterfinals exposes the
numerous flaws of gregorio and his coaching staff and the bad
offseason moves of their front office.
when you set an all-time pba record by losing 41 games in just 3
conferences then its time for a new era. a big change. a major
revamp. failure to do so will lead to a new record in futility.

HELLO GARCI???????????

KULANG PA BA UNG 3 YEARS PARA PATUNAYAN NYA NA KARAPAT DAPAT SIYANG
MAGING COACH NG PF, 3 YEARS NA PURO TALO NI DI MAN LANG NYA MAPAABOT
KAHIT SA SEMIS MAN LANG ANG PF, ISA LANG ANG SOLUSYON, MAGRESIGN KA
NA GREGGY BOY SUMAMA KA NA KAY GMA..........

--- In teampurefoods@yahoogroups.com, "Christian Caga-anan"
<christian_cagaanan@y...> wrote:
>
>  I beg to differ with the other members about coach ryan. Purefoods
> has had a history of having good if not the best coaches in the
> league. Yes, coach ryan may have made some mistakes making
decisions
> for the team. But look at the line up now. In another 2 to 3 years,
> Purefoods will be the leagues best Run and Gun team. We have a fast
> and quick frontline that can match Ginebra's frontline. We have
> Gunners from in and out of the 3 point line that can match Talk and
> Text and even Ritualo's hot shots. Teams has its weaknesses.
> Obviously, our team's is the Big man in the shaded lane. Purefoods
is
> lucky for having assistant coach koy Banal to head the defensive
> strategy for the team. I know for a fact that coach Ryan's
offensive
> strategy is one of the best in the league. Why?.. I'll explain
why...
>
>  For one, The Hotdogs made it further that what most people
expected
> wihtout a legitimate Dominant Big man in the paint. Now tell me how
> was that possible? If you ask me, thats the mastery of Coach Ryan's
> offensive smarts and asst. coach Banal's defensive brilliance.
>
>  Another reason, Purefoods is a very young team. The team's gunners
> are not even on their peaks. Raymundo, Yap and Artadi are very
> promising players. And the team's veterans may not have the same
> skills they had when they were still young but there is something
> that they have that is more important for the team, their heart.
>
>  Yes, I agree that some players are suppose to be traded for other
> potential dominant big men. And I know that is what coach Ryan's
next
> big step. I have confidence in Coach Ryan's capability to lead a
team
> like the Hotdogs. He just needs a little more time to build the
team
> that can bag the title, or even a grand slam.
>
>  As a closing line, Purefoods is in good hands, just have faith
> because the promise land isnt that far away. I can feel it.
>
>  Go.. Go.. TJ Hotdogs!!!!
>
> >>Die Hard PF Fan-Christian MC<<
>
>  PS: To my idol, "The Captain" Alvin Patrimonio... Im happy to know
> that we can still see you in the court. We love yah Cap!!!