What? No nasty side.... Running bra's for woman are just as much a part
of the attire as the shoes. For me, I'm not gonna wear men's used
running shorts.... LOL!!

Larry who probably should not comment on Cheryl's posts anymore... ;-)
--- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
>
> Ewwwwwwwwww....I hadn't even thought that far!!!! I was just thinking
> about shoes!  Larry, leave it to you to take it to the nasty
> side....!
>
>  Larry James <horizontal_velocity@...> wrote:No used running
> bra, ah???
>
> Larry in rainy RI...
>
> --- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
> >
> > I was just looking at their website and got that impression.
> > However, will do my best to check it out and let you know.  I don't
> > mind getting "last year's model"...just prefer that it not be a
> used
> > return!  ;o)
> >
> >  Lani Teshima <lani@...> wrote:On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Larry James
> > wrote:
> > >I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car
> maybe
> > you
> > >can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to
> > the
> > >public.
> >
> > They may have changed in the last handful of years, but it used to
> be
> > that their "store" was more like an outlet store, where they sold
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Ewwwwwwwwww....I hadn't even thought that far!!!! I was just thinking about
shoes!  Larry, leave it to you to take it to the nasty side....!

  Larry James <horizontal_velocity@...> wrote:No used running bra, ah???

Larry in rainy RI...

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>
> I was just looking at their website and got that impression.
> However, will do my best to check it out and let you know.  I don't
> mind getting "last year's model"...just prefer that it not be a used
> return!  ;o)
>
>  Lani Teshima <lani@...> wrote:On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Larry James
> wrote:
> >I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car maybe
> you
> >can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to
> the
> >public.
>
> They may have changed in the last handful of years, but it used to be
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> clearance items and used return merchandise. If you go, let us know
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No used running bra, ah???

Larry in rainy RI...

--- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
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> I was just looking at their website and got that impression.
> However, will do my best to check it out and let you know.  I don't
> mind getting "last year's model"...just prefer that it not be a used
> return!  ;o)
>
>  Lani Teshima <lani@...> wrote:On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Larry James
> wrote:
> >I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car maybe
> you
> >can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to
> the
> >public.
>
> They may have changed in the last handful of years, but it used to be
> that their "store" was more like an outlet store, where they sold
> clearance items and used return merchandise. If you go, let us know
> if
> they've started carrying all of their regular merchandise as well.
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I was just looking at their website and got that impression.  However, will do
my best to check it out and let you know.  I don't mind getting "last year's
model"...just prefer that it not be a used return!  ;o)

  Lani Teshima <lani@...> wrote:On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Larry James wrote:
>I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car maybe you
>can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to the
>public.

They may have changed in the last handful of years, but it used to be
that their "store" was more like an outlet store, where they sold
clearance items and used return merchandise. If you go, let us know if
they've started carrying all of their regular merchandise as well.

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On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Larry James wrote:
>I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car maybe you
>can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to the
>public.

They may have changed in the last handful of years, but it used to be
that their "store" was more like an outlet store, where they sold
clearance items and used return merchandise. If you go, let us know if
they've started carrying all of their regular merchandise as well.

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Yup!!! San Diego is filled with fly-boys, sailors, soldiers, marines.
You name the service, San Diego has 'em... LOL!!


Larry in RI where I have not run since saturday.

--- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
>
> Larry, does that mean I might find some fly-boys around the area
> too???? LOL!!!
>
>  Larry James <horizontal_velocity@...> wrote:5553 Copley Drive.
> San Diego, Ca. 92111
> (858) 974-4455
>
> Monday - Friday 10:00 AM to 8:00 PM
> Saturday 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM
> Sunday 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM
>
> You can get a map off there website
> www.roadrunnersports.com
>
> The store is between I-805 and 163, up near Miramar Air Station...
>
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> --- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the head's up on Road Runner Sports -- any idea approx.
> > where they are located (general area)?
> > I'm on a conference call so have to keep the answers short!
> >
> >  Larry James <horizontal_velocity@...> wrote:Cheryl,
> > Bill Hermann on the PB list lives in San Diego. He can help you
> > directly.
> >
> > I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car maybe
> > you
> > can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to
> the
> > public.
> >
> > Have fun... in the sun...
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > --- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good morning all!  I'm going to be heading to San Diego for a
> > weekend
> > > in a couple weeks and wondered if anyone could recommend some
> good
> > > walking/running paths?  I'd heard of Balboa Park as being a good
> > > place.  Ideal would be a 4-5 mile loop (or something I could turn
> > > into that).
> > > Thanks!
> > > Cheryl
> > > ORN:  Last night 70 minutes on the dreadmill...5 minute walking
> > > warm-up, 5 minute walking cool-down and 60 minutes of 3 min
> > running/2
> > > min walking reps.  It's getting easier -- Yippee!!!  If I can
> keep
> > > that up for the rest of this week, then next week I'm going to
> try
> > to
> > > move up to 5/2 intervals.
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Larry, does that mean I might find some fly-boys around the area too???? LOL!!!

  Larry James <horizontal_velocity@...> wrote:5553 Copley Drive. San Diego,
Ca. 92111
(858) 974-4455

Monday - Friday 10:00 AM to 8:00 PM
Saturday 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM
Sunday 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM

You can get a map off there website
www.roadrunnersports.com

The store is between I-805 and 163, up near Miramar Air Station...


Larry



--- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the head's up on Road Runner Sports -- any idea approx.
> where they are located (general area)?
> I'm on a conference call so have to keep the answers short!
>
>  Larry James <horizontal_velocity@...> wrote:Cheryl,
> Bill Hermann on the PB list lives in San Diego. He can help you
> directly.
>
> I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car maybe
> you
> can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to the
> public.
>
> Have fun... in the sun...
>
> Larry
>
> --- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning all!  I'm going to be heading to San Diego for a
> weekend
> > in a couple weeks and wondered if anyone could recommend some good
> > walking/running paths?  I'd heard of Balboa Park as being a good
> > place.  Ideal would be a 4-5 mile loop (or something I could turn
> > into that).
> > Thanks!
> > Cheryl
> > ORN:  Last night 70 minutes on the dreadmill...5 minute walking
> > warm-up, 5 minute walking cool-down and 60 minutes of 3 min
> running/2
> > min walking reps.  It's getting easier -- Yippee!!!  If I can keep
> > that up for the rest of this week, then next week I'm going to try
> to
> > move up to 5/2 intervals.
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5553 Copley Drive. San Diego, Ca. 92111
(858) 974-4455

Monday - Friday 10:00 AM to 8:00 PM
Saturday 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM
Sunday 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM

You can get a map off there website
www.roadrunnersports.com

The store is between I-805 and 163, up near Miramar Air Station...


Larry



--- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the head's up on Road Runner Sports -- any idea approx.
> where they are located (general area)?
> I'm on a conference call so have to keep the answers short!
>
>  Larry James <horizontal_velocity@...> wrote:Cheryl,
> Bill Hermann on the PB list lives in San Diego. He can help you
> directly.
>
> I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car maybe
> you
> can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to the
> public.
>
> Have fun... in the sun...
>
> Larry
>
> --- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning all!  I'm going to be heading to San Diego for a
> weekend
> > in a couple weeks and wondered if anyone could recommend some good
> > walking/running paths?  I'd heard of Balboa Park as being a good
> > place.  Ideal would be a 4-5 mile loop (or something I could turn
> > into that).
> > Thanks!
> > Cheryl
> > ORN:  Last night 70 minutes on the dreadmill...5 minute walking
> > warm-up, 5 minute walking cool-down and 60 minutes of 3 min
> running/2
> > min walking reps.  It's getting easier -- Yippee!!!  If I can keep
> > that up for the rest of this week, then next week I'm going to try
> to
> > move up to 5/2 intervals.
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Thanks for the head's up on Road Runner Sports -- any idea approx. where they
are located (general area)?
I'm on a conference call so have to keep the answers short!

  Larry James <horizontal_velocity@...> wrote:Cheryl,
Bill Hermann on the PB list lives in San Diego. He can help you
directly.

I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car maybe you
can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to the
public.

Have fun... in the sun...

Larry

--- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
>
> Good morning all!  I'm going to be heading to San Diego for a weekend
> in a couple weeks and wondered if anyone could recommend some good
> walking/running paths?  I'd heard of Balboa Park as being a good
> place.  Ideal would be a 4-5 mile loop (or something I could turn
> into that).
> Thanks!
> Cheryl
> ORN:  Last night 70 minutes on the dreadmill...5 minute walking
> warm-up, 5 minute walking cool-down and 60 minutes of 3 min running/2
> min walking reps.  It's getting easier -- Yippee!!!  If I can keep
> that up for the rest of this week, then next week I'm going to try to
> move up to 5/2 intervals.
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Cheryl,
Bill Hermann on the PB list lives in San Diego. He can help you
directly.

I know Mission Bay is good for running. And if you have a car maybe you
can stop by Road Runners Sports. They have a retail store open to the
public.

Have fun... in the sun...

Larry

--- Cheryl White <cawhite60156@...> wrote:
>
> Good morning all!  I'm going to be heading to San Diego for a weekend
> in a couple weeks and wondered if anyone could recommend some good
> walking/running paths?  I'd heard of Balboa Park as being a good
> place.  Ideal would be a 4-5 mile loop (or something I could turn
> into that).
> Thanks!
> Cheryl
> ORN:  Last night 70 minutes on the dreadmill...5 minute walking
> warm-up, 5 minute walking cool-down and 60 minutes of 3 min running/2
> min walking reps.  It's getting easier -- Yippee!!!  If I can keep
> that up for the rest of this week, then next week I'm going to try to
> move up to 5/2 intervals.
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Good morning all!  I'm going to be heading to San Diego for a weekend in a
couple weeks and wondered if anyone could recommend some good walking/running
paths?  I'd heard of Balboa Park as being a good place.  Ideal would be a 4-5
mile loop (or something I could turn into that).
Thanks!
Cheryl
ORN:  Last night 70 minutes on the dreadmill...5 minute walking warm-up, 5
minute walking cool-down and 60 minutes of 3 min running/2 min walking reps. 
It's getting easier -- Yippee!!!  If I can keep that up for the rest of this
week, then next week I'm going to try to move up to 5/2 intervals.



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On Saturday night - after being completely saturated with news coverage all
day -- I decided to lay in bed and read a book.  I didn't want to reread
something I had already read - so I finally read "Heart Rate Monitor Training
for the Complete Idiot" -- somewhat appropriate.  I have had my monitor for
more than a year and rarely used it (heck I had no idea what to do with the
numbers - or how to determine my numbers).

To make a long story short - I read the book cover to cover.  And decided to
give the program a month to see how it works. Today was day 1, an easy day
which equates to a truly slow day. Goal - run at less than 70% of my maximum
heart rate - or keep that number at less than 155 beats per minute.  I ran
(ok - walked 80%) for 2 miles (30:34 minutes) - the slowest 2 miles I have
done in the past month!!!  I would run for a small bit and my heart rate
would jump to 160 - and then I would slow the treddie down to a walk - and
then it would go to 145 or so - so I would run again.  Frustrating. Of course
- the author said it would be like this in the beginning.

Tomorrow I am supposed to run "hard" or greater than 85% of my max heart rate
- which means I have to stay above 169 bpm for the entire run - then
alternate between those two types of runs for each of my efforts.  My long
runs will be easy of course - since the goal there is distance - not speed.

So I am back on the books for a new month! Consistency in weekly runs - how
strange is this??

Courage is not often heard as a roar,
But as a quiet statement at the end of the day,
"I will try again tomorrow"

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2002 - Disney; Country Music; Canada Rock n Roll; RnR Half Marathons; Danskin
Triathlon @ WDW
2001 - Disney Marathon; OKC Memorial Marathon; RNR & Jacksonville Half
Marathons
2000 - Marine Corps Marathon
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Wow Lani, very well said!   I only too well remember watching the Challenger
take-off on tv and the tragedy as it happened...what a horrible day then, and a
horrible day on Saturday.  My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the
astronauts, as well as anyone else who is involved with the program.
On a cheerier note, I do like the way that Mortimer managed to sneak into that
picture!
Cheryl
  Lani Teshima <lani@...> wrote:My heart is absolutely broken.

After Alex and I checked out of the Coronado Springs Resort, we spent
some time during the rest of the week watching the launching of
Columbia, and visiting the Kennedy Space Center.

Since we did not have official launch viewing tickets, we chose to
watch the launch from Cocoa Beach. For those of you who remember,
Cocoa Beach is home to "I Dream of Jeannie" (since "Master" was an
astronaut). We found a little park off of a little street called I
Dream of Jeannie Lane
(http://www.lava.net/~alexman/florida/jeannie.jpg), and watched the
launching of the shuttle on Thursday. You can view the photo we took
of the launch (the sheep on the left is 'Mortimer', a globe-trotting
little fellow from England [who belongs to a friend of ours] who
wanted to run the marathon with Alex [who kept him in his little fanny
pack during the marathon]):
http://www.lava.net/~alexman/florida/shuttle.jpg

[A co-worker of mine three offices down actually traveled to Florida
specifically to attend the official shuttle launch with her boyfriend.
I have yet to speak to her, but I know they got photos of the launch,
and I know they must be devastated as well.]

On Friday, the day after the launch, we spent the whole day at the
Kennedy Space Center. We spent part of our time observing and viewing
the memorial for astronauts who passed away in their line of duty...
never did we imagine that we might be seeing the names of the seven
Columbia astronauts on this memorial.

On Saturday, we were up at 6:00am because we were driving down to
Disneyland for the weekend (it is for us a 7-hour drive each way). As
I always do, I turned on the radio as I was getting dressed. The news
announcer interrupted regular programming at roughly 6:20 to announce
that all communication had ceased from the Columbia as it was
flying over Texas, and that they were afraid something terrible had
happened.

We immediately turned on the TV, and Soledad O'Brien from the Today
Show was already discussing this. We watched in horror, the two of us,
in the same way we did when we saw the WTC on fire a year and a half
ago.

I am grateful I had the radio on. I am grateful we had to get up
early... any normal Saturday might have seen us in bed for another
three hours.

I kick myself now for not buying up all of the STS-107 merchandise we
saw at the Kennedy Space Center gift shop -- T-shirts, patches,
programs...

but most of all, I cry at the loss of seven bright, successful and
eager adventurers, who had worked hard all their lives to reach for
the stars... and I cry for their families.

As Ronald Reagan said just 17 years ago, almost to the day, in his
moving, eloquent speech about the Challenger disaster, "they slipped
the surly bonds of Earth, and touched the face of God."

May they rest in peace.

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Thanks Jim!  The only thing injured was my ego!  Thankfully it was dark and
nobody saw me - LOL!  I also doubt anyone heard me, although if they did, they
might have mistaken me for a sailor!
I'm definitely looking forward to the Indy Mini -- I'm not sure how much I'll
end up running vs. walking.  The one thing I'm finding as I start on this
running voyage, is that I prefer running on the mill to running outside....the
exact opposite to how I feel with walking.  I can't explain it except that
perhaps on the mill I keep my pace slower and don't get ahead of myself?  Oh
well, with time and better weather I hope that will change!
Cheryl in Chicago....who is seriously considering the 3 block walk to get Krispy
Kremes.....mmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!

  Jim <solar@...> wrote:Cheryl,

Sorry about your fall.  Hope you are feeling better.

I just started running again after the Disney Marathon.  Those three weeks
off have really made me anxious to start running again. I am training for
the Indy Mini now.
See you there.

Jim K.
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To: <teampenguin-disney@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:05 PM
Subject: TP-Disney Happy Sunday!


> Hi all, hope you had a good weekend (with, of course, the exception
> of Saturday morning's tragedy)!
>
> Today's OR/WN:  5 miles tonight...about 90% of it walking since there
> is still quite a bit of ice on the sidewalks...I hit an ice patch
> about 2/3 into the 1st mile...then I hit the ground (ouch!) and the
> rest was walking!  I was feeling groggy earlier so took a nap and
> woke up feeling like I"m getting the flu...getting outside for an
> hour plus was very helpful, though!
>
>
>
>
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My heart is absolutely broken.

After Alex and I checked out of the Coronado Springs Resort, we spent
some time during the rest of the week watching the launching of
Columbia, and visiting the Kennedy Space Center.

Since we did not have official launch viewing tickets, we chose to
watch the launch from Cocoa Beach. For those of you who remember,
Cocoa Beach is home to "I Dream of Jeannie" (since "Master" was an
astronaut). We found a little park off of a little street called I
Dream of Jeannie Lane
(http://www.lava.net/~alexman/florida/jeannie.jpg), and watched the
launching of the shuttle on Thursday. You can view the photo we took
of the launch (the sheep on the left is 'Mortimer', a globe-trotting
little fellow from England [who belongs to a friend of ours] who
wanted to run the marathon with Alex [who kept him in his little fanny
pack during the marathon]):
http://www.lava.net/~alexman/florida/shuttle.jpg

[A co-worker of mine three offices down actually traveled to Florida
specifically to attend the official shuttle launch with her boyfriend.
I have yet to speak to her, but I know they got photos of the launch,
and I know they must be devastated as well.]

On Friday, the day after the launch, we spent the whole day at the
Kennedy Space Center. We spent part of our time observing and viewing
the memorial for astronauts who passed away in their line of duty...
never did we imagine that we might be seeing the names of the seven
Columbia astronauts on this memorial.

On Saturday, we were up at 6:00am because we were driving down to
Disneyland for the weekend (it is for us a 7-hour drive each way). As
I always do, I turned on the radio as I was getting dressed. The news
announcer interrupted regular programming at roughly 6:20 to announce
that all communication had ceased from the Columbia as it was
flying over Texas, and that they were afraid something terrible had
happened.

We immediately turned on the TV, and Soledad O'Brien from the Today
Show was already discussing this. We watched in horror, the two of us,
in the same way we did when we saw the WTC on fire a year and a half
ago.

I am grateful I had the radio on. I am grateful we had to get up
early... any normal Saturday might have seen us in bed for another
three hours.

I kick myself now for not buying up all of the STS-107 merchandise we
saw at the Kennedy Space Center gift shop -- T-shirts, patches,
programs...

but most of all, I cry at the loss of seven bright, successful and
eager adventurers, who had worked hard all their lives to reach for
the stars... and I cry for their families.

As Ronald Reagan said just 17 years ago, almost to the day, in his
moving, eloquent speech about the Challenger disaster, "they slipped
the surly bonds of Earth, and touched the face of God."

May they rest in peace.

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Cheryl,

Sorry about your fall.  Hope you are feeling better.

I just started running again after the Disney Marathon.  Those three weeks
off have really made me anxious to start running again. I am training for
the Indy Mini now.
See you there.

Jim K.
----- Original Message -----
From: <cawhite60156@...>
To: <teampenguin-disney@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:05 PM
Subject: TP-Disney Happy Sunday!


> Hi all, hope you had a good weekend (with, of course, the exception
> of Saturday morning's tragedy)!
>
> Today's OR/WN:  5 miles tonight...about 90% of it walking since there
> is still quite a bit of ice on the sidewalks...I hit an ice patch
> about 2/3 into the 1st mile...then I hit the ground (ouch!) and the
> rest was walking!  I was feeling groggy earlier so took a nap and
> woke up feeling like I"m getting the flu...getting outside for an
> hour plus was very helpful, though!
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Hi all, hope you had a good weekend (with, of course, the exception
of Saturday morning's tragedy)!

Today's OR/WN:  5 miles tonight...about 90% of it walking since there
is still quite a bit of ice on the sidewalks...I hit an ice patch
about 2/3 into the 1st mile...then I hit the ground (ouch!) and the
rest was walking!  I was feeling groggy earlier so took a nap and
woke up feeling like I"m getting the flu...getting outside for an
hour plus was very helpful, though!

Absolutely horrible and tragic.  I'll never forget watching the Challenger
launch and disaster.   Thoughts and prayers with all those involved with this
mission....
  "widefoot1 <widefoot@...>" <widefoot@...> wrote:     What a shock
to hear the news about the Space Shuttle.  The only
time in my life I was able to see a shuttle launch, how be it from
the airport while waiting for our plane.
      Then this morning to hear that same shuttle had broken up during
its landing approach over Texas.  This was indeed sad.

Russ Armstrong
Orem, Utah


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Thanks Russ!  If anyone else has some fun pictures, I hope they'll add them too!
  "widefoot1 <widefoot@...>" <widefoot@...> wrote:     I added a
photo of the other table at the dinner.
Russ Armstrong
Orem, Utah


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Yea, it's a mess. I work satelite communications lab and we have a
"feed" from CNN. It's always on. I don't hear many warm and fuzzy
stories much anymore. IT's all war, war, war. Either home or aboard.


Larry


--- Susan Barmess <suezooper@...> wrote:
> I too, am heartsick over this Russ.  So mcuh sad news lately...  I
> feel like my heart is breaking into bits.
>
> Sue
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I too, am heartsick over this Russ.  So mcuh sad news lately...  I feel like my
heart is breaking into bits.

Sue

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I added a photo of the other table at the dinner.
Russ Armstrong
Orem, Utah

What a shock to hear the news about the Space Shuttle.  The only
time in my life I was able to see a shuttle launch, how be it from
the airport while waiting for our plane.
      Then this morning to hear that same shuttle had broken up during
its landing approach over Texas.  This was indeed sad.

Russ Armstrong
Orem, Utah

Oh no Larry....I think you were possibly a bit too subtle....ROFLMAO!!!!!
  Larry James <horizontal_velocity@...> wrote:Lani writes.....
> This doesn't mean anything special (since this list pretty
> much runs itself), except that now when someone emails the list and
> asks to be unsubscribed, I can go ahead and do it for them manually
> without telling them to send email to the unsubscribe address.
>
> :)
>
> -- Lani


Way to take charge, Lani!!! So do ya think I was alittle hard on the
folks who wanted off the list?? LOL!!


Larry





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Lani writes.....
> This doesn't mean anything special (since this list pretty
> much runs itself), except that now when someone emails the list and
> asks to be unsubscribed, I can go ahead and do it for them manually
> without telling them to send email to the unsubscribe address.
>
> :)
>
> -- Lani


Way to take charge, Lani!!! So do ya think I was alittle hard on the
folks who wanted off the list?? LOL!!


Larry





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Marty in Atlanta....where are you?  We've not heard from you since
WDW!

I did check the Cgo Hashers site...hopefully sometime I can work my
calendar to be able to do a run with them!

Lani, Lani, Lani.....first the buttons and now moderating the
list...you rick girl!!!!!  Thanks!!!!



> Instead, I got email from John B. himself, explaining that Cathy no
> longer used the email she was registered on the list for, and that
if
> I wanted, he would just leave me as a moderator.
>
> I'm very familiar with Yahoo Groups (I have a couple of groups I
> moderate). This doesn't mean anything special (since this list
pretty
> much runs itself), except that now when someone emails the list and
> asks to be unsubscribed, I can go ahead and do it for them manually
> without telling them to send email to the unsubscribe address.
>
> :)
>
> -- Lani
>
> --
> \0/.| Lani Teshima, MLIS/tech writer. AIM: Traveliter<BR>
> .|D.| Packing tips for 1-bag trips @ http://www.travelite.org<BR>
> /.L.| Simplify your travel life w/ a PDA @
http://www.pilotlite.org<BR>
> ____| Travel writer & copy editing mgr @ http://www.MousePlanet.com

Congratulations Lani.  You must indeed be a miracle worker.  It was nice of you
to take on the task. I bow to you for your powers of persuasion.

I have to take a moment to speak my mind at John Bingham though...  Those of you
who have been with this list since the beginning will understand that I am due
my taking issue with him for this.  I had been minding this list all along.  I
took an outsiders look at it once those of you who were running 2003 were
actually preparing for the race.  I had on several occasions asked John the same
question Lani did.  He would never give me the ability to help administrate.  I
would have to contact each person wanting off the list the hard way and walk
them through doing it themselves... talk about frustrating...   If you guys
remember back we were getting slammed with spam, and then the virus attachments
kept coming.  Each time I would contact JOHN BINGHAM and ask for the ability to
do something about this since he obviously was too busy to keep up.  He would
take forever to get around to adressing the issues, but did eventually fix the
problems and ignore my pleas to become an administrator of some kind.  I just
want to go on record as saying I'm more than miffed by this.   There are a
number of folks that have been with John since he was at the bottom.  I've heard
it said a person climbing the ladder should not eric on the rungs while heading
up.  I have more I want to say, but I'm a lady and will refrain from further
comments.

Sue

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All Hail Yahoo Goddess Lani!!!

:) Just kidding...but thanks for taking up the cause. Way to go!

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Hi folks;

I was perusing through our Yahoo Groups page and noticed that a number
of links on the Links page needed to be updated (there were even some
spam ones! Yuck!), so I contacted Cathy to see if she could update
them. At the same time, I volunteered to do it if she could change my
settings to "moderator" for a short period so I could go do some
housecleaning.

Instead, I got email from John B. himself, explaining that Cathy no
longer used the email she was registered on the list for, and that if
I wanted, he would just leave me as a moderator.

I'm very familiar with Yahoo Groups (I have a couple of groups I
moderate). This doesn't mean anything special (since this list pretty
much runs itself), except that now when someone emails the list and
asks to be unsubscribed, I can go ahead and do it for them manually
without telling them to send email to the unsubscribe address.

:)

-- Lani

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/.L.| Simplify your travel life w/ a PDA @ http://www.pilotlite.org<BR>
____| Travel writer & copy editing mgr @ http://www.MousePlanet.com