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Re: Systema strike question

Thanks for the help and all the great ideas!

Mike



--- In systema_group@yahoogroups.com, "rkxyz" <rklingberg@...> wrote:
>
> You might also find some of my past writings helpful. Here is a
> review of a strikes seminar with Martin Wheeler:
> http://www.new-pony.com/systema/martinsatdecember2004.html
> and a seminar with Mikhail Ryabko that also covered strikes:
> http://www.new-pony.com/systema/mikhailsatjune2005.html
> Hope this helps.
> *Vsego nailuchshego* (best wishes),
> Rachel
>
> --- In systema_group@yahoogroups.com, "recshooter" <recshooter@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the tips, Rachel and Sharon. You may have to forgive
my
> > newbie excitement but in nearly 20 years of martial arts I have
> never
> > felt anything like that when striking. Truly amazing. I'm sure it
> > would have been funny to have filmed and seen the shocked look on
> > both of our faces.
> >
> > Rachel, I have the Strikes DVD but I never could understand
exactly
> > where the power came from. Maybe I just missed it watching the
> faces
> > eveyone made getting hit ;) I downloaded Val Riazanov's ebook on
> > ballistic striking and that helped me a great deal to understand
> what
> > I needed to be doing. The ebook is probably below basic to
someone
> > who is working with an instructor, but it filled in the gaps for
> me.
> > I'll have to go back and watch the strikes video again now that I
> > have a clearer perception of what is going on
> >
> > Sharon, thanks for pointing me to the videos on youtube. I have
> ran
> > across them before but I will watch them now with greater
> > understanding.
> >
> > I've seen on various clips where Val Riazanov did seminars with
VV
> > and MR..is he still involved with Systema or is he kind of doing
> his
> > own thing?
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> >
> > - In systema_group@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon Friedman" <ransuru@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > A FEW SUGGESTIONS:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvIoaWqRsik
> > >
> > > Work on pushing without tensing up by using your breath as the
> wave
> > > and by letting the movement come from your body as one unit but
> > > relaxed so there is no attempt to keep a certain shape despite
> your
> > > senses telling you it's a bad idea :)
> > >
> > > Fall on your fists and let the movement pass onward.
> > >
> > > Have a partner place his hands on your shoulders and close his
> eyes.
> > > You need to strike him and if he feels you are moving before the
> > > strike hits in, he slaps you in the face.
> > >
> > > Smile, it relaxes the face and than the rest relaxes.
> > >
> > > Remember that learning to take strikes and survive is more
> important
> > > than learning to strike deep. They are connected of course.
> > >
> > > Sharon
> > > Systema Israel.
> > > http://systemablog.blog.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In systema_group@yahoogroups.com, "rkxyz" <rklingberg@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I'm no expert (I have been training 4 years), but it
> sounds
> > > > like you are doing good. That wet smacking noise is a good
> sign.
> > But
> > > > I'd try to get a hold of the Strikes video and see if you can
> > pick up
> > > > some pointers from that. Striking is intermediate to advanced
> > work.
> > > > It is better to have a qualified instructor guiding you, but
I
> > > > realize that's not always possible. The Strikes video will be
> > > > helpful, if you haven't already seen it.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe some other group members will weigh in.
> > > >
> > > > *Vsego nailuchshego* (best wishes),
> > > > Rachel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In systema_group@yahoogroups.com, "recshooter"
> <recshooter@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > My friend and I were messing around with trying to figure
out
> > the
> > > > > Systema striking method. I know it doesn't come in a
couple
> of
> > > > days
> > > > > or anything like that. We were basically just playing
around
> > trying
> > > > > to figure out how in the world you punch and at the same
time
> > are
> > > > > relaxed. Out of nowhere I think I "got it" by accident. I
> > punched
> > > > > him in the stomach and it felt like my fist went in all the
> way
> > up
> > > > to
> > > > > my wrist. He said it felt like the punch, "went through to
> the
> > > > > spine." The sound it made connectiong was different also.
> It
> > is
> > > > > hard to explain what the sound was, kind of a wet smack.
It
> > > > sounded
> > > > > very different than usual. My friend had his abs really
> > tightened
> > > > (I
> > > > > know that's the wrong way to take it) and the punch went
> > through
> > > > like
> > > > > a knife through butter. LOL I think it scared us both
pretty
> > bad!
> > > > > If this is the right way to do it I would suppose it worked
> > becuase
> > > > I
> > > > > quit "trying" and just did it. It is really frustrating to
> try
> > and
> > > > > get back in the right frame of mind to repeat it! I think
> > we've
> > > > > learned not to try that without some sort of pad or
> something.
> > We
> > > > may
> > > > > be too careful but we really don't know what we are doing.
> > Better
> > > > > safe than sorry. Are we on the right path here to proper
> > striking?
> > > > > Or at least taking a baby step in the right direction?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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My friend and I were messing around with trying to figure out the Systema striking method. I know it doesn't come in a couple of days or anything like that....
recshooter
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Nov 8, 2007
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Well, I'm no expert (I have been training 4 years), but it sounds like you are doing good. That wet smacking noise is a good sign. But I'd try to get a hold of...
rkxyz
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Nov 8, 2007
8:08 pm

A FEW SUGGESTIONS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvIoaWqRsik Work on pushing without tensing up by using your breath as the wave and by letting the movement...
Sharon Friedman
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Nov 8, 2007
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Thanks for the tips, Rachel and Sharon. You may have to forgive my newbie excitement but in nearly 20 years of martial arts I have never felt anything like...
recshooter
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Nov 9, 2007
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Hello again, Val is a wonderful fighter and instructor and a very nice person as well. If you want to know what his intentions are I suggest asking him. I got...
Sharon Friedman
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Nov 9, 2007
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You might also find some of my past writings helpful. Here is a review of a strikes seminar with Martin Wheeler: ...
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Thanks for the help and all the great ideas! Mike ... my ... exactly ... someone ... VV ... I ... out ... couple ... around ... time ... It ... pretty...
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... IMO it's best not to use pads. Just decrease the power of the punches. It's important to learn to strike with relaxed shoulder: even if at first your...
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