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Dave,
Thanks for the free week. My partner & I got some nice winners from
tracks I usually don't play. Now I just hops you have a good day at
Keeneland today!
Vikki

Girl friends are NICE -:)
Thankyou-Marty
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Vikki
   To: surethingselections@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 9:11 AM
   Subject: [NY Winners] nice job Marty


   Nice pick on thar race Marty. Need a girlfriend?
   Vikki



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Nice pick on thar race Marty. Need a girlfriend?
Vikki

Our Balmoral analsyt comes up with a $14,000 super box in th
Balmoral 1st!!!!! Way to go Marvin!
Dave G

Hello to all the new faces that have joined the club recently and
feel free to ask questions, chat about racing or what have you.
While this group is moderated that is more of a way to keep message
SPAM down as well as stop abusive, inflamatory and or just plain
nonsensical e-mails to a minimum. I usually ok most messages that
fall within the guidelines I set up which are not very stringent @
all. So have fun, hoepfully learn a thing or two and make some
friends.
Dave Gonzalez

Dave,
I saw those computer aided selections of yours spanked some cards
Sunday! I wish I hadn't been out of town or I could have cashed in.
Keep up the good work and I'll see you at the races this weekend!
Vikki :-)

Hello group members,
This is just a friendly notice to let you know that all selections
this week (3/29/04 to 4/4/04 will be free! They are posted in the
frre stuff section of the site so enjoy. It will also give you folks
a chance to get aquainted with our newest analsyts Marty & Jake who
are covering a few of the bigger harness meets in the country. We
also made a few changes to other areas as well such as the ability
to offer detailed analysis for any card thoroughbred or harness with
24 hours notice. The fee for that will be $10 & while we cannot give
that away for free during this week it will be available should any
of you need it. The price for any regular detailed analysis is still
the same $5, a bargain in every sense of the word since we are the
only site good enough to back up our selections with a guarantee!
Good luck to all & may you never be DQ'd & win every photo!
Dave Gonzalez
Founder
$urethingselections.com
The only sure thing in racing history!

Well, folks pool 2 for the Kentucky Derby & Kentucky Oaks futures
has just opened and I seem some potential value in them as I look to
connect on another Funny Cide this year (I had him in pool 1 last
year for which I was rewarded with a $188 dollar payoff. In fact the
only two horses I bet last year ran 1-2 in the Derby making my
futures record to date 3-6 which I think is pretty damn good.)

First of all in the Derby the two horses I like a bit are Tapit &
Rock Hard Ten.
Tapit runs on Saturday in the Florida Derby so you may want to wait
to see that race before betting on him. A moderate finish is ok,
dead last, a win or a close up in-the-money finish are not. The
latter two will depress his value while the former might mean he
will not run. Bear in mind this is his first start this year so he
should need the race though his trainer is notorious for having
horses like this ready to go off a break.
Rock Hard Ten is a lot lighter raced then I like @ this stage of the
game but he has looked so good in his two starts to date that if he
is near his line of 50-1 it may look like a gift after the fact. He
has the breeding to go this far now all he needs is the seasoning &
a route race. Do not go crazy on this one but 50-1 is reasonable
odds to offset the risks.
In the Oaks, there are only 3 horses worthy of considering, they are
Ashado, Halfbridled & Madcapescapade. The latter maybe the only to
offer any significant value as well as having the potential to be an
absolute freak. However, if either of the former two are above 3-1
or 2-1 in the pools take the shot because on Oaks Day neither will
be that big. Good luck to all.

Dave Gonzalez
surethingselections.com

Phil Karacson has decided to move on & will no longer be doing picks
for Delta Downs for this site. We at Surethingselcetions.com wish
him nothing but the best for him and his family.
Dave Gonzalez
owner
surethingselections.com

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visit http://www.bettorsdaily.com
then visit BD horse racing forum

Marty,
Nice going with those winners this weekend 88% ROI @ the Meadowlands
& a 65% ROI @ Balmoral along with the truckload of exotics you hit
at each was very impressive. Keep up the good work.
Dave Gonzalez
owner
surethingselections.com

Great hit Phil!!!!!!
Marty
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dave
   To: surethingselections@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 3:14 AM
   Subject: Re: [NY Winners] I think I'm in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


   Thanks Melanie & Marty. Phil also had a good night w/ a cold
   superfecta hit in the Delta for $1500 & change!
   Dave Gonzalez

   --- In surethingselections@yahoogroups.com, "Marty McLean"
   <mwinners1945@z...> wrote:
   > Nice capping Dave.
   > Marty
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Melanie
   >   To: surethingselections@yahoogroups.com
   >   Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 5:34 PM
   >   Subject: [NY Winners] I think I'm in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   >
   >
   >   Dave,
   >   baby you are a genius! I had a great day at Aqueduct today. I
   hit
   >   that cold triple & then I hit the superfecta with your picks in
   the
   >   last race. Keep up the good picks sweetie I am betting your
   picks
   >   for Oaklawn too!
   >   Love & kisses
   >   Melanie
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For those who did not notice we began to offer computer aided
selection coverage of Fonner Park last week when that opened. The
computer aided selections should start to settle in this week as it
now has data to work with. Good luck to all.
Dave Gonzalez
owner
surethingselections.com

Thanks Melanie & Marty. Phil also had a good night w/ a cold
superfecta hit in the Delta for $1500 & change!
Dave Gonzalez

--- In surethingselections@yahoogroups.com, "Marty McLean"
<mwinners1945@z...> wrote:
> Nice capping Dave.
> Marty
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Melanie
>   To: surethingselections@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 5:34 PM
>   Subject: [NY Winners] I think I'm in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>   Dave,
>   baby you are a genius! I had a great day at Aqueduct today. I
hit
>   that cold triple & then I hit the superfecta with your picks in
the
>   last race. Keep up the good picks sweetie I am betting your
picks
>   for Oaklawn too!
>   Love & kisses
>   Melanie
>
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Nice capping Dave.
Marty
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Melanie
   To: surethingselections@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 5:34 PM
   Subject: [NY Winners] I think I'm in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


   Dave,
   baby you are a genius! I had a great day at Aqueduct today. I hit
   that cold triple & then I hit the superfecta with your picks in the
   last race. Keep up the good picks sweetie I am betting your picks
   for Oaklawn too!
   Love & kisses
   Melanie




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Dave,
baby you are a genius! I had a great day at Aqueduct today. I hit
that cold triple & then I hit the superfecta with your picks in the
last race. Keep up the good picks sweetie I am betting your picks
for Oaklawn too!
Love & kisses
Melanie

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The Handicapper

A racing form, pen-marked
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with a tip-sheet on the spread
of a long shot bet
in his head

Deli chicken skin and bones
go cold in a plastic coffin.
Headstones of drained and bent
popcans send cigarette smoke signals
to a scouting-party of flies
picking the winning horses he tries

He ain't no railbird.
He knows his stuff,
Handicapping ponies can be tough.
But it is what he does best,
Five nights a week its not a guess
Before the starting-gate bell
If you ask him he will tell

Luck, good or bad,
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  get in line cause it will surly pay


  James.H

Hello,Thanks for the advice it is very much apersated.
You nailed them Saturday Great Job!!!
Keep up the good work!!
James.H

James,
Relax. Everyone has bad days. The 9th was a nice box hit for an
exacta & most of your analysis made sense. From a vlue standpoint
your handicapping was spot on but the Fairgrounds is playing very
chalky this season & that is the death pf the value player. However,
do not change your approach to fit the track. This past summer @
Saratoga was exceptionally chalky but I did not change my approach &
while I have had better seasons for sure this year was not all that
bad though & were it not for a DQ that cost me a $40,000 pick 4 &
Pat Day riding like an idiot on Travers Day w/ a 43 & 1 half mile
going 7F I would have picked up another pick 4 for about $15,000
that I would have had multiple times. These things happen & while
that does not make you feel much better @ the time the best thing is
to just keep plugging away or you might as well give this game up.
One thing I did notice that stuck out as memorable in your picks was
you mentioned that a horse was not bred to go a route but that his
trainer did well w/ that type. In that case I almost always defer to
the breeding side because a trainer cannot usually get a horse to
outrun it's pedigree when you are referring to distance limitations.
For that matter, trainers can often not get dirt horses w/ no grass
pedigree to handle that surface even when the trainer is a master
grass trainer. There are however, more exceptions to this rule than
the distance one. Hope this helps some & it is not meant as a shot @
your handicapping but merely an observation.
Dave Gonzalez
owner
Surethingselections.com
--- In surethingselections@yahoogroups.com, "greatlakes_48101"
<greatlakes_48101@y...> wrote:
> Well it was a off day for me thats forsure,didn't even have one hit
> that was pretty sad I must admit.I guess my best race was the 9th
> having the 3 horse at 12-1 in my pick,I'll have to try to redeem
> myself with tomorrows races.
> James.H

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hello,Thanks for the welcome note.I used to play nothing but harness
till about 4 years ago now I am playing the thoroughbreds.
What trcks you like the most,I used to play Northville,Raceway
Park,and The Meadowlands.You ever try them tracks?
well I'll talk to you later
James

Welcome aboard James.I to am a new member and a harness racing enthuisast.
I,ll be doing some capping for Dave.
Again welcome aboard and talk to you threw the net.
Marty McLean
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: greatlakes_48101
   To: surethingselections@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:57 AM
   Subject: [NY Winners] New Memeber


   Hello Everone,I have heard and seen alot of good things about dave
   but have not had the honor of introducing myself,I heard about Dave
   Though A good Friend and now one of the newest handicappers for dave
   Phil.Me and Phil grow up together and have been good friends for a
   long time,,,well one day he come up to me at the track and starts to
   tell me about this new handicapper he met online,at the time i was
   thinking to myself who would want someone else to make my picks for
   me.....lol....so there we sat me playing mine him play his bets(with
   the help of Dave.G)And I'll tell you he walked out with a smile that
   day,,,so the next time I keeped a close eye on Dave's picks and much
   to my surprise not only did I learn that he's got to be one of the
   best handicapper out there but from Phil getting to know Through the
   internet that he is a great guy as well.I have been a fan every
   since and have seen him make some great picks over the days.
   Keep up the great work Dave.G and thanks for all the great advice
   you have pased on to all of us!!
   tell you a little about myself my name is James Henderson I live in
   Newport,Mich.I'v been playing the track since I was a little kid and
   my Dad would take me to the track,He says I could read That form
   befor I could read any book....lol....I love the Sport always have
   and lately seems I'v had nothing but time on my hands for the
   sport.Day and night I'm looking at something about horse
   racing....lol....I'd like to share a couble picks for Fair Ground
   the 12th if thats ok with Dave.G
   well let me no dave if that would be ok and Thank Agian!!



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Hello all,
First, welcome to all the new people & thanks for the compliment
James it is appreciated. Second, about posting things to this club,
I approve almost everything that is not offensive, derogatory or
just plain rude. If someone does not like my picks for a race or a
track you can & are encouraged to say something but be polite about
it & wait for my explanation as to why I picked a horse.
Sometimes picking ahead of scracthes, weather & assorted other
changes is not easy & I have not the time to adjust every track's
selections even when I get that information. Anyone's picks,
including mine, should be used as a tool to aid your own
handicapping. The point of this game is about making money, period.
It is not about volume of winners though @ a certain level you
should have a good mix of volume & prices. I pick horses to that
end. I try to beat the favorite whenever I can but that does not
mean that I toss them out of the handicapping equation. My win
percentage as a selector has been about 30% (slightly below the
track favorite hit rate) but I have shown a flat bet profit for 4
years running & that is no easy feat. My actual win bet % for my
personal betting is about 34% because I know how to adjust my picks
on the fly after changes.
Anyway, people post what you like, have fun & hopefully we will all
learn a little something that helps us make more money in the long
run because that should be the end goal of handicapping horses.

Dave Gonzalez
owner
Surethingselections.com

Hello Everone,I have heard and seen alot of good things about dave
but have not had the honor of introducing myself,I heard about Dave
Though A good Friend and now one of the newest handicappers for dave
Phil.Me and Phil grow up together and have been good friends for a
long time,,,well one day he come up to me at the track and starts to
tell me about this new handicapper he met online,at the time i was
thinking to myself who would want someone else to make my picks for
me.....lol....so there we sat me playing mine him play his bets(with
the help of Dave.G)And I'll tell you he walked out with a smile that
day,,,so the next time I keeped a close eye on Dave's picks and much
to my surprise not only did I learn that he's got to be one of the
best handicapper out there but from Phil getting to know Through the
internet that he is a great guy as well.I have been a fan every
since and have seen him make some great picks over the days.
Keep up the great work Dave.G and thanks for all the great advice
you have pased on to all of us!!
tell you a little about myself my name is James Henderson I live in
Newport,Mich.I'v been playing the track since I was a little kid and
my Dad would take me to the track,He says I could read That form
befor I could read any book....lol....I love the Sport always have
and lately seems I'v had nothing but time on my hands for the
sport.Day and night I'm looking at something about horse
racing....lol....I'd like to share a couble picks for Fair Ground
the 12th if thats ok with Dave.G
well let me no dave if that would be ok and Thank Agian!!

I'd like to welcome not 1 but 2 new handicappers to the
Surethingselections family, Phil Karakson & Marty McLean. Phil will
be covering Delta Downs & Great Lakes Downs when it opens. Marty
will be our first venture into harness racing selections & we'll let
you know what he will be covering very shortly. In the meantime
gentleman welcome aboard.
Dave Gonzalez
surethingselections.com

Dover Downs-02/09/04
3rd race-#6-Nevada Yankee 3/1
9th race-#1-Moscow N 4/1
14th race-#2-Red Teddy 2/1

Luck to all,
Marty

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2nd race-#6-Stormy Alex 5/2
Marty

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Hello-My name is Marty McLean and Iam a
harness racing enthusiast.Here are a couple of spot plays I like at balmoral
park tonite.
Bmlp-7th race-#6-parisian falcon n-7/2
Bmlp-10th race #6-draw me bye-5/1
Luck if you play-Marty


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