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Re: [Stratmat] best strat-o-matic throwing arm rating ever?

This topic came up a while back over at the StratFanForum. Clemente is
rated -6 from 1960 through 1965. All other seasons he was rated -5 except for
his rookie year of 1955 when he was a -4. Steve Barkan from the game company
said that, in retrospect, Clemente should have been given a -6 arm every season.
They aren't going to re-issue new versions of any of the seasons from 55 through
72, other 1958 which should be coming in a couple years. Barkan advised that
gamers should edit Roberto's cards and give him a -6 arm on all of them.

As far as ordering Version 13 is concerned, I've found in the past that you
can order in early January and you'll get the stuff only a week or so after the
first people that ordered before Christmas.

--
Dean Amrhein.

Sarcastic cynic by profession.

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Eric Lutzker <ericlutzker@...>
> i recently got the '71 cards that they just last year redid for
> super-advanced and looking at the pirates i see that roberto clemente's
> arm is a -6. now i don't remember seeing anything better than a -5
> before (am i just remembering poorly). i guess if anyone deserves it it
> is clemente. so how about it? has strat ever assigned anyone a -7? and
> has anyone else ever gotten a -6. would anyone ever try to send a
> runner on this guy? thanks, e




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i recently got the '71 cards that they just last year redid for super-advanced and looking at the pirates i see that roberto clemente's arm is a -6. now i...
Eric Lutzker
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Dec 20, 2007
11:45 pm

... Hi Eric, I bought the super-advanced 1971 set early this year, but I haven't opened it yet, so I was surprised to hear that Clemente is a -6 on the set. He...
Gary Kirchherr
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Dec 21, 2007
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Hmm, what's the fastest running rating you've ever seen? A 1-17 only have a .55 chance of taking the extra base against Clemente. If the run expectancy of...
Wesley Hinkle
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Dec 21, 2007
4:50 am

This topic came up a while back over at the StratFanForum. Clemente is rated -6 from 1960 through 1965. All other seasons he was rated -5 except for his...
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Dec 21, 2007
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Dean, your saying that Bobby Clemente should have a -6 from 55 to 72 ? Are these arm ratings based on statistical evidence, subjectivity or intimidation?...
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Dec 21, 2007
10:45 pm

They're based on Steve Barkan saying so. He's the guy who creates the cards. What he said, and I'm paraphrasing because it's been months since I read it, was...
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Dec 22, 2007
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Dean, Alright, Barkan has intimidated me into taking the extra base & making him all -6. Did you at least like my tribute to the Gunner. Howie...
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Dec 22, 2007
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Tribute to the Gunner? I missed that one. Run it by me again. I loved that guy. He made me a baseball fan. -- Dean Amrhein. Sarcastic cynic by profession. ...
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Dec 22, 2007
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Dean, who else called #21 Bobby?...
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stratovarious1
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Dec 22, 2007
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That's right! Remember his old baseball cards, the Topps ones? They always called him Bob. To call him anything but Roberto now seems sacrilegious. BTW, my...
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dean76gp
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Dec 22, 2007
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Dean, shouldn't he be a piratephysicist?...
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stratovarious1
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Dec 22, 2007
3:31 pm

I think this was Hal's way of playing tribute to Clemente. He is the only player ever to get a -6 arm. From: stratmat@yahoogroups.com...
John Christie
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Dec 23, 2007
8:51 pm

I play in a retro league (currently 1970) and this conversation stream spurred me to contact strat. Here is their one sentence answer. "The game only supports...
tinman
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Dec 24, 2007
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... Now wait a minute. If Strat were saying not to change *existing* ratings, I could understand that. But how can a game-company spokesman say "there is no...
Gary Kirchherr
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Dec 24, 2007
7:09 am

Merry Christmas everyone. What is printed on the card is what is printed on the card and that says -6 on Clemente 1970 card. There are not going to be any...
John Christie
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Dec 24, 2007
1:42 pm

Also, a bad year for him was -5. ... From: tinman To: stratmat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [SPAM] [Stratmat] best...
tinman
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Dec 24, 2007
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I was thinking the same thing, remembering some Barfield cards from the past, I believe he and others have a -5 over the years. I didn't see Clemente in...
Christopher R. Johnson
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Dec 24, 2007
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Steve Barkan an anonymous company hack? Don't you know who he is? He's the guy who does all the research and creates all the baseball cards. That's been his...
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Dec 24, 2007
8:32 pm

I tried to get Strat to clarify their 1st response. This still isn't completely clear (below) but it seems to indicate we should leave ratings as they are. ...
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Dec 24, 2007
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... No, no, no. Re-read Tinman's post, No. 510. The "hack" I was referring to was the company spokesman who told Tinman that "there is no such thing as a -6"...
Gary Kirchherr
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Dec 25, 2007
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The computer can recognize a -6 arm. I don't know where that story originated. -- Dean Amrhein. Sarcastic cynic by profession. ... From: "Gary Kirchherr"...
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Dec 25, 2007
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Hey, I play the board game, and I lost some pitcher batting cards, so if you could send me pictures of #s 1-6, my dad and I would really be thankful. Thanks, ...
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