Thanks Gary!

It looks like Glanville's letter implies that the 2001 Gold Glove won by Jim
Edmonds might be the one he's unhappy about. Glanville was .991 that year with
425 chances, most of his career. Personally, I love outfield assists (being a
Manny Ramirez fan) and Glanville's best years there were 98 and 99.

Also IMHO, 1998 was really his best defensive year with only 2 errors, a .995
average and 14 assists. Really a stellar year for him, and as reported at
http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/gold_glove_nl.shtml Jones, Walker and
Bonds won that year.

If indeed its 2001 he's after here, he does have a case. Edmonds had a very
good year, with a .982 average and quite a few less chances, with 12 assists. I
also like to look at double plays from outfielders, which are rare. That year I
believe Glanville won 3-1.

I've never thought that a gold glove should gaurantee a "1" rating, and although
I'm less familiar with Abreu (being an AL fan) I'm guessing the rating he
received is what he deserved. Sounds like an improvement for strato, after all.

Chris Johnson

Gary Kirchherr wrote:
> Fellow list members:
>
> First, I'd like to say "Kung Hei Faht Choi," to those of you who
> recognize today as New Year's Day. :-)
>
> OK, Strat-O-Matic Baseball's "Opening Day" has come and gone, and
> presumably, the new card sets are on their way to those of us who
> preordered.
>
> The anticipation of getting the newest cards is a feeling that hasn't
> changed much since 1973, when I submitted a preseason order for the
> first time. Some things *are* different now, though. I grew up in an age
> when no one knew what would be on the new cards until they showed up.
> Today, of course, the Internet has changed all that. Not only are some
> details of the cards available; they're already generating controversy.
>
> Strat has already anticipated what probably will be the biggest
> controversy once cards actually make their way into players' hands:
> Phillie right fielder Bobby Abreau's "3" defensive rating, a historic
> low for a Gold Glove winner. Harold Richman himself went on record as
> defending the decision. He said, in not so many words, that Abreau's
> Gold Glove is a crock, and that Abreau doesn't deserve to be better than
> a "3," no matter what the managers and coaches who voted him the award say.
>
> http://www.strat-o-matic.com/sphere/abreugg.htm
>
> The game company even got one of Abreau's former teammates, recently
> retired center fielder Doug Glanville, to submit a letter defending
> Strat's decision. Glanville's letter is interesting for its chastisement
> of the company for previous automatic-1 rankings of Gold Glove winners.
> The fact that this letter is on Strat's Web site seems to be Strat's way
> of issuing a mea culpa for previous bad policy while not actually
> getting Richman or someone else affiliated with the game company to
> acknowledge past mistakes.
>
> As an aside, Glanville apparently still feels he was once cheated out of
> the Gold Glove, after which he then had to suffer the indignity of a "2"
> rating while the allegedly undeserving winner got a "1." I haven't been
> able to figure out the season or the other player, he's talking about,
> though. If anyone else knows, tell me.
>
> http://www.strat-o-matic.com/sphere/dougg.htm
>
> A Q-and-A relating to this issue already has appeared in Glenn Guzzo's
> officially sanctioned "Talk Show" column. Answering a complaint about
> Abreau's "3," Guzzo correctly points out that Abreau can't be compared
> with someone like a young Steve Garvey, who in the early '70s went from
> being a part-time "4" at first base one year to a mature, full-time "1"
> the next.
>
> In the same letter, Guzzo ducks the question of why it was OK to give
> Davey Lopes a "1" in 1978. The game company and its minions aren't quite
> ready to say that that was a mistake. But why not? So it was a mistake.
> Just because Lopes got an undeserved "1" 27 years ago doesn't mean SOM
> is obligated to compound the problem by continuing to give automatic "1"
> ratings to Gold Glove winners.
>
> http://www.strat-o-matic.com/sphere/talkshow0106.htm
>
> Anyway, enough on that.
>
> Strat already published online the 2005 players' fielding ratings.
>
> http://www.strat-o-matic.com/sphere/2005rate.htm
>
> The ratings provide no real surprises, but one disappointment: Indians
> shortstop Jhonny Peralta is a "4." Again, a disappointment, not a
> surprise, especially to those of us who saw him in the field last year.
> :-) I also see that A-Rod again got a generous "2" rating at short,
> despite playing only three games there, during which he made a whopping
> two assists and one putout.
>
> Another Strat-O-Sphere article gives more detailed look at some of the
> ratings.
>
> http://www.strat-o-matic.com/sphere/somworld0106.htm
>
> This piece gives advance warning on Bernie Williams, who may now have
> the worst fielding numbers ever for a starting center fielder: a 5e3
> rating, and +4 arm. Ouch. And he played 112 games there last year? I
> realize Williams was a fan favorite, but you can't have a center fielder
> who can't hit, field or throw, and expect to win anything.
>
> Anyway, enjoy the new set. I certainly will. Feedback on my observations
> and/or the cards themselves is welcome.
>
> -Gary
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