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RE: [sportsci_rtutorial] R article at the new york times

I presume folks won’t mind if this interaction continues via the list.  Others might make some useful comments.

 

I hadn’t realized a menu-driven R was up and running.  If that’s what the NYT article was referring to, it would imply that menu-driven R is easier to use than all the other menu-driven stats packages. Is R’s menu interface any different from any other?  Does the interface somehow capture R’s strange concepts/jargon for specifying data and models (which I still haven’t attempted to understand, I must admit)?

 

Will

 

From: sportsci_rtutorial@yahoogroups.com [mailto:sportsci_rtutorial@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian Shrier
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2009 11:17 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [sportsci_rtutorial] R article at the new york times

 

Will

 

Within R, there is a feature called R Commander. Once loaded, it is menu-driven. Further, as it runs, it writes the code so you learn how to program as you go along.

 

Unfortunately, I only learned about it after I went through the steepest part of the learning curve. And although I probably should use it sometimes, I tend to rely on the help documentation or my statistician friend who is an R grand master...very helpful if you have one.

 

Ian Shrier MD, PhD, Dip Sport Med, FACSM
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On 8-Jan-09, at 4:05 PM, Will Hopkins wrote:



“But R has also quickly found a following because statisticians, engineers and scientists without computer programming skills find it easy to use.”

This is an example of why I don’t read newspapers on or off line.

 

Will

 

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Sent: Friday, 9 January 2009 1:29 a.m.
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"But R has also quickly found a following because statisticians, engineers and scientists without computer programming skills find it easy to use." This is an...
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Will Within R, there is a feature called R Commander. Once loaded, it is menu-driven. Further, as it runs, it writes the code so you learn how to program as...
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I presume folks won't mind if this interaction continues via the list. Others might make some useful comments. I hadn't realized a menu-driven R was up and...
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Hi Will, Great to see some action happening on this list. Personally, I don't think that providing a menu-driven interface is of any help. We discussed it a...
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I agree with Rob that the menu-driven approach is limited to simple analyses. But this is going to be adequate for many studies. I also have become more aware...
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Hello Guys, I've checked out, although only brief and superficial, R commander. The interface provides most of the typical tests used in undergraduate...
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