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#454 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Thu Jun 3, 2010 6:12 pm
Subject: Fw: Battle of Fort Wayne Tournament southbendhoc...
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Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

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--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Rick Moran <rmoran@...> wrote:

From: Rick Moran <rmoran@...>
Subject: Battle of Fort Wayne Tournament
To: southbendhockey@...
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 1:07 PM

SBSHL,

My name is Rick Moran and I’m contacting you because we are running an adult tournament, the “Battle of Fort Wayne” here later this month and we are in need of some more players and teams. This is going to be a blast, the cost is just $875/team, you get a minimum of 3 games, beer in the locker rooms, theres a party at our restaurant Friday night at the start of the tournament. Labatt will be sponsoring so theres going to be a lot of great giveaways throughout the weekend. This is the first year of what will be an annual tournament here at the brand new 3 sheet rink in Fort Wayne. This tournament will be highly organized and is sanctioned by USA Hockey.

We’ve got teams coming from all over the state and I would love to get a couple of teams from the SBSHL, I have attached all of the info, please get this to your guys and have them contact me if interested.

Thanks a lot, I hope to hear from you soon,

Rick Moran

rmoran@...

Cell: (716) 725-9219

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#455 From: "Peter" <bauer_peter@...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:37 am
Subject: Upcoming Rat Hockey peter01bauer
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Open rat ($10 per skater, goalies free) on these Fridays:
6/25 at 1:30
7/9 at 2:00
7/16 at 1:30
7/23 at 1:30

   We also have open rat on Wednesdays at 3:30 every week.  Goalies especially
welcome!

Pete

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#456 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:14 am
Subject: 3 on 3 tourney saturday july 31st southbendhoc...
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Guys just passing this on and am forwarding this out. Feel free to pass this on to youre teammates. Bill schmatz is setting up a 3 on 3 tourney as a fund raiser for the holy cross college hockey team.    Its open to anyone in the mens division and will be taking place saturday july 31st.    I am guessing it will be around $250 -275 a team, A bit more since its a fund raiser, but probably along the lines of something to very similar to what I have set up in the past.    Its my sabbath so I wont be there, but I plan on helping out and recommend they use the same format as I have done previously.   4 games and a 5th for the top 2 teams. Since there is only one rink it might be a half day event and run 2 teams, or possibly a little longer and have 3 divisions and 15 teams if the demand is there.

Bills email is bill.schmatz@... and cell number is 574-370-2064.

Beer and pizza will probably be provided as was done in the past.      Right now they are in their infancy stages and are looking for commitments to get things going.    If you have any questions, or want to reserve a team spot, please contact bill and let him know sooner rather than later.

Turnout has always been great in the past and it should be a fun event, for all those participating.

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

219-898-5705

www.eteamz.com/sbshl
Join the SBSHL YAHOO GROUP BY CLICKING HERE
I went to a fight the other night, and a hockey game broke out. ---Rodney Dangerfield

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#457 From: "Peter" <bauer_peter@...>
Date: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:02 pm
Subject: No Rat Hockey July 2 (this Friday) peter01bauer
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The Ice Box will be closed this Friday -- no rat hockey.

Have great weekends & holidays.
Pete

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#458 From: Jeff Sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:03 pm
Subject: Fwd: Summer Rat Hockey Schedule southbendhoc...
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Jeff Sax

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219-898-5705

Begin forwarded message:

From: Peter Bauer <peterbauer@...>
Date: July 1, 2010 3:29:57 PM CDT
To: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Cc: scott fraser <sfraser@...>, Brian Moore <lazyernie@...>, bart ridley <canamr@...>, Crystal VanMeerten <c_vanmeerten@...>, Bryan Borger <blborger@...>, christopher zielinski <ctzielinski@...>, dan adams <friction@...>, Dave Lerman <davel@...>, joe zielinski <jnuggz24@...>, kelvin byer <kelvinbyer@...>, kevin nobes <knobes@...>, Maria Barton <bartonmt@...>, sean hoffman <seanhoffmanauto@...>, seth frank <ikf.franky@...>, Ted Lerman <tedl@...>, tim nush <drtimnush@...>, Allen Dobereiner <adobereiner@...>, ANDY REHRER <REHRER@...>, Arturo Sandoval <arturo_sandoval21@...>, "Christopher A. Fuchs" <cfuchs@...>, jeff gulotta <jgulotta@...>, Jeff Martin <jeffthemartin@...>, john banks <jcbanks@...>, Justin Brandon <jrbrandon@...>, max brown <maxabrow@...>, moshe gubin <caterernco@...>, philip smith <sbfd0416@...>, Zachary Juniper <zjuniper@...>, mike klute <mklute@...>
Subject: Summer Rat Hockey Schedule

WED 30-Jun 3:30 PM 5:00 PM $10 Rat
WED 07-Jul 3:30 PM 5:00 PM $10 Rat
FRI 09-Jul 2:00 PM 3:30 PM $10 Rat
WED 14-Jul 3:30 PM 5:00 PM $10 Rat
FRI 16-Jul 1:15 PM 2:45 PM $10 Rat
WED 21-Jul 3:30 PM 5:00 PM $10 Rat
FRI 23-Jul 1:15 PM 2:45 PM $10 Rat
WED 28-Jul 3:30 PM 5:00 PM $10 Rat

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#459 From: Ed Hickman Jr <skibum157@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 1:27 pm
Subject: players skibum157
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Jeff, I played goalie for team x last week and we played the hawks. I am curious as to why at least b league level players are on their team and why they are not helping the other members of the team out. Their ego seems to be getting in the way of positive influence in their team. It was not fun to have learning level players out on the ice and have them coming down to score when the game was way lopsided. This is my beef and I thought I would convey it to you and see your opinion. Ed

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#460 From: "Keith A. McIndoo" <kam1193@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 2:29 pm
Subject: RE: players kam1193
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Ed,

I couldn’t agree with you more. We need some enforcement on keeping players in their respective leagues. The older guy, Don, with the red helmet (plays defense, maybe Boatshed?) in the C league, has been draining the fun out of the C league and tournaments for years.

A possible solution: the captains should agree that if someone is “out of the league”, too good, the opposing captain should be able to dismiss them from the game.

Your thoughts?

---------------------------------------------------------------

Keith A. McIndoo

From: southbendhockey@yahoogroups.com [mailto:southbendhockey@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Hickman Jr
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:27 AM
To: Jeff Sax
Subject: [southbendhockey] players

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#461 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:29 pm
Subject: RE: players southbendhoc...
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don sheliga isnt playing for vyagra anymore he plays for SBF in the B league now

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

219-898-5705

www.eteamz.com/sbshl
Join the SBSHL YAHOO GROUP BY CLICKING HERE
I went to a fight the other night, and a hockey game broke out. ---Rodney Dangerfield

--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Keith A. McIndoo <kam1193@...> wrote:

From: Keith A. McIndoo <kam1193@...>
Subject: RE: [southbendhockey] players
To: "'Ed Hickman Jr'" <skibum157@...>, "'Jeff Sax'" <southbendhockey@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 10:29 AM

Ed,

I couldn’t agree with you more. We need some enforcement on keeping players in their respective leagues. The older guy, Don, with the red helmet (plays defense, maybe Boatshed?) in the C league, has been draining the fun out of the C league and tournaments for years.

A possible solution: the captains should agree that if someone is “out of the league”, too good, the opposing captain should be able to dismiss them from the game.

Your thoughts?

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

Keith A. McIndoo

From: southbendhockey@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:southbendho ckey@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Ed Hickman Jr
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:27 AM
To: Jeff Sax
Subject: [southbendhockey] players

Jeff, I played goalie for team x last week and we played the hawks. I am curious as to why at least b league level players are on their team and why they are not helping the other members of the team out. Their ego seems to be getting in the way of positive influence in their team. It was not fun to have learning level players out on the ice and have them coming down to score when the game was way lopsided. This is my beef and I thought I would convey it to you and see your opinion. Ed

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#462 From: Ron Grisoli <rgrisoli@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 5:57 pm
Subject: RE: players Rgrisoli
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Guys,

I certainly understand the frustration when some of the b league guys are skating circles around us, but please keep in mind that many of them (like Don) have gracoiusly offered to help teach the slower guys (like me) how to be better hockey players.

I've learned a great deal from the faster guys through one-on-one instruction as well as watching just how they are ablle skate circles around me.

If everyone on my team played at my level, it would be no fun either. Everyone enjoys winning, but I'd like to think that I'm out there to learn, get some exercise, and socialize with all of you folks - an yes, occasionally win a few games.

I'd just hate to see anyone who is capable of playing at the B league level banned from the C league. I think that C league would be a little less interesting.

Just my 2 cents.

Thanks,

Ron

--- On Fri, 7/2/10, jeff sax <southbendhockey@...> wrote:

From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Subject: RE: [southbendhockey] players
To: "'Ed Hickman Jr'" <skibum157@...>, "'Jeff Sax'" <southbendhockey@yahoogroups.com>, "Keith A. McIndoo" <kam1193@...>
Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 11:29 AM

don sheliga isnt playing for vyagra anymore he plays for SBF in the B league now

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

219-898-5705

www.eteamz.com/ sbshl
Join the SBSHL YAHOO GROUP BY CLICKING HERE
I went to a fight the other night, and a hockey game broke out. ---Rodney Dangerfield

--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Keith A. McIndoo <kam1193@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Keith A. McIndoo <kam1193@gmail. com>
Subject: RE: [southbendhockey] players
To: "'Ed Hickman Jr'" <skibum157@yahoo. com>, "'Jeff Sax'" <southbendhockey@ yahoogroups. com>
Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 10:29 AM

Ed,

I couldn’t agree with you more. We need some enforcement on keeping players in their respective leagues. The older guy, Don, with the red helmet (plays defense, maybe Boatshed?) in the C league, has been draining the fun out of the C league and tournaments for years.

A possible solution: the captains should agree that if someone is “out of the league”, too good, the opposing captain should be able to dismiss them from the game.

Your thoughts?

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------

Keith A. McIndoo

From: southbendhockey@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:southbendho ckey@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Ed Hickman Jr
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:27 AM
To: Jeff Sax
Subject: [southbendhockey] players

Jeff, I played goalie for team x last week and we played the hawks. I am curious as to why at least b league level players are on their team and why they are not helping the other members of the team out. Their ego seems to be getting in the way of positive influence in their team. It was not fun to have learning level players out on the ice and have them coming down to score when the game was way lopsided. This is my beef and I thought I would convey it to you and see your opinion. Ed

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#463 From: "Erik" <Driven_4him@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: players fireboy3015
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I agree with you Ron that it is good to have better players in the league to
help the newer guys learn.  But when it comes to game time they need to learn to
play down to a C league level to make it fare for every one.  I have seen some B
leaguers play in C league and skate around every one, but I have also seen some
play down in a supprting role and those are the kind of guys we need in the
league.

Erik Krantz

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#464 From: SEAN and AMY GODBEY <godbey2@...>
Date: Sat Jul 3, 2010 4:28 am
Subject: RE: Re: players sgodbey6969
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guys,
I know as a C/rec level player that I have learned alot by skating with guys above my ability, as I am sure all of you have as well, as for skating around and running up the score that sucks!! and I hate it as much as anyone but that is what we have captins for I feel that it is their responsablity to keep their team in check, and if they can not maybe they should be scheduled a game against the A league and let them get their asses kicked, I would hate to see guys kicked out of the c league that are truly there to play with friends and help teach us slugs. however they need to under stand that if they are playing in a lower league than they must play down to that level. I think most all c league teams have a B player but most of them are there as support and teachers. lets just remind them and their captins of that.

just my two cents.

Sean Godbey

To: southbendhockey@yahoogroups.com
From: Driven_4him@...
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:17:32 +0000
Subject: [southbendhockey] Re: players

I agree with you Ron that it is good to have better players in the league to help the newer guys learn. But when it comes to game time they need to learn to play down to a C league level to make it fare for every one. I have seen some B leaguers play in C league and skate around every one, but I have also seen some play down in a supprting role and those are the kind of guys we need in the league.

Erik Krantz

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#465 From: "southbendhockeyplayer" <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Thu Jul 8, 2010 2:53 pm
Subject: FRIDAY RAT SESSIONS southbendhoc...
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guys Pete bauer is running rat hockey through the summer from 1-3pm on Fridays  
if you plan on attending please email him  bauer_peter@...   its more
like a beginner level and the pace is pretty relaxing  cost is 10 bucks

Also john banks runs rat hockey on fridays 3:30 to 5:30pm  but its more for guys
in the upper C or B leagues   it is invite only, but you can get yourself on
weekly email list by contacting him by email  jcbanks@...
cost is also 10 bucks

he is looking for 10 guys this friday

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#466 From: "southbendhockeyplayer" <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:48 pm
Subject: jobs at the ice box southbendhoc...
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guys mike klute is looking for 2 night zam drivers and a daytime maintenance
guy.  If youre interested or know someone who is please contact mike at
574-250-7814

thanks

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#467 From: Jeff Sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:54 pm
Subject: Fwd: 3 on 3 tourney saturday july 31st southbendhoc...
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Jeff Sax

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219-898-5705

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Schmatz, Bill" <bill.schmatz@...>
Date: July 20, 2010 10:35:22 AM EDT
To: 'jeff sax' <southbendhockey@...>, alex regenery <alex@...>, bob montgomery <frogs-sbiceboxb@...>, "brandon lasota" <Brandon.Lasota@...>, charlie RICE <crice@...>, chris chockley <cchockley@...>, Dave Mensik <dmensik@...>, ed hums <Edward.F.Hums.2@...>, flint dille <fdille@...>, Jeff Smelser <tradergt@...>, john banks <jcbanks@...>, kevin masters <kpmasters@...>, kevin nobes <knobes@...>, kyle bordeau <kbordeau@...>, len jablonski <L_jablonski@...>, Matthew Donze <mdonze1@...>, "mike jamieson" <sbfd0473@...>, mike person <MPerson@...>, "mike jozwiak" <popsjoz@...>, nick Linarello <boozeman@...>, "patrick ziegler" <pez318@...>, peter bauer <peterbauer@...>, RON DUVALL <rndjr@...>, scott fraser <sfraser@...>, Todd montgomery <kid2433525@...>, wayne popovic <wpopovic@...>
Cc: mike klute <mklute@...>, mike mcneill <mmcneill14@...>
Subject: RE: 3 on 3 tourney saturday july 31st

Guys....just another note about the 3 on 3 tournament being held at the IB on Saturday July 31st.   So far the A division is filling up nicely but we can certainly accomodate more. We still nee several B and C teams.

See the attached flyer for more details or feel free to call.

   Thanks,

    Bill Schmatz,

    574-370-2064

From: jeff sax [mailto:southbendhockey@...]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:14 PM
To: alex regenery; bob montgomery; brandon lasota; charlie RICE; chris chockley; Dave Mensik; ed hums; flint dille; Jeff Smelser; jeff sax; john banks; kevin masters; kevin nobes; kyle bordeau; len jablonski; Matthew Donze; mike jamieson; mike person; mike jozwiak; nick Linarello; patrick ziegler; peter bauer; RON DUVALL; scott fraser; Todd montgomery; wayne popovic
Cc: Schmatz, Bill; mike klute; mike mcneill
Subject: 3 on 3 tourney saturday july 31st

Guys just passing this on and am forwarding this out. Feel free to pass this on to youre teammates. Bill schmatz is setting up a 3 on 3 tourney as a fund raiser for the holy cross college hockey team.    Its open to anyone in the mens division and will be taking place saturday july 31st.    I am guessing it will be around $250 -275 a team, A bit more since its a fund raiser, but probably along the lines of something to very similar to what I have set up in the past.    Its my sabbath so I wont be there, but I plan on helping out and recommend they use the same format as I have done previously.   4 games and a 5th for the top 2 teams. Since there is only one rink it might be a half day event and run 2 teams, or possibly a little longer and have 3 divisions and 15 teams if the demand is there.

Bills email is bill.schmatz@... and cell number is 574-370-2064.

Beer and pizza will probably be provided as was done in the past.      Right now they are in their infancy stages and are looking for commitments to get things going.    If you have any questions, or want to reserve a team spot, please contact bill and let him know sooner rather than later.

Turnout has always been great in the past and it should be a fun event, for all those participating.

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

219-898-5705

www.eteamz.com/sbshl
Join the SBSHL YAHOO GROUP BY CLICKING HERE
I went to a fight the other night, and a hockey game broke out. ---Rodney Dangerfield

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#468 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:26 pm
Subject: Fw: RE: 3 on 3 tourney saturday july 31st southbendhoc...
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FYI

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

219-898-5705

www.eteamz.com/sbshl
Join the SBSHL YAHOO GROUP BY CLICKING HERE
I went to a fight the other night, and a hockey game broke out. ---Rodney Dangerfield

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, Schmatz, Bill <bill.schmatz@...> wrote:

From: Schmatz, Bill <bill.schmatz@...>
Subject: RE: 3 on 3 tourney saturday july 31st
To: "'jeff sax'" <southbendhockey@...>, "alex regenery" <alex@...>, "bob montgomery" <frogs-sbiceboxb@...>, "brandon lasota" <Brandon.Lasota@...>, "charlie RICE" <crice@...>, "chris chockley" <cchockley@...>, "Dave Mensik" <dmensik@...>, "ed hums" <Edward.F.Hums.2@...>, "flint dille" <fdille@...>, "Jeff Smelser" <tradergt@...>, "john banks" <jcbanks@...>, "kevin masters" <kpmasters@...>, "kevin nobes" <knobes@...>, "kyle bordeau" <kbordeau@...>, "len jablonski" <L_jablonski@...>, "Matthew Donze" <mdonze1@...>, "mike jamieson" <sbfd0473@...>, "mike person" <MPerson@...>, "mike jozwiak" <popsjoz@...>, "nick Linarello" <boozeman@...>, "patrick ziegler" <pez318@...>, "peter bauer" <peterbauer@...>, "RON DUVALL" <rndjr@...>, "scott fraser" <sfraser@...>, "Todd montgomery" <kid2433525@...>, "wayne popovic" <wpopovic@...>
Cc: "mike klute" <mklute@...>, "mike mcneill" <mmcneill14@...>
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 4:12 PM

Guys,

     With much regret and due to unforseen circumstances, I'm sorry to say we must cancel the tournament. I apologize and thank all who showed interest and enthusiasm, I was looking forward to it. If I get any checks, I'll certainley return them.

   Regards,

    Bill

From: jeff sax [mailto:southbendhockey@...]
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:14 PM
To: alex regenery; bob montgomery; brandon lasota; charlie RICE; chris chockley; Dave Mensik; ed hums; flint dille; Jeff Smelser; jeff sax; john banks; kevin masters; kevin nobes; kyle bordeau; len jablonski; Matthew Donze; mike jamieson; mike person; mike jozwiak; nick Linarello; patrick ziegler; peter bauer; RON DUVALL; scott fraser; Todd montgomery; wayne popovic
Cc: Schmatz, Bill; mike klute; mike mcneill
Subject: 3 on 3 tourney saturday july 31st

Guys just passing this on and am forwarding this out. Feel free to pass this on to youre teammates. Bill schmatz is setting up a 3 on 3 tourney as a fund raiser for the holy cross college hockey team.    Its open to anyone in the mens division and will be taking place saturday july 31st.    I am guessing it will be around $250 -275 a team, A bit more since its a fund raiser, but probably along the lines of something to very similar to what I have set up in the past.    Its my sabbath so I wont be there, but I plan on helping out and recommend they use the same format as I have done previously.   4 games and a 5th for the top 2 teams. Since there is only one rink it might be a half day event and run 2 teams, or possibly a little longer and have 3 divisions and 15 teams if the demand is there.

Bills email is bill.schmatz@... and cell number is 574-370-2064.

Beer and pizza will probably be provided as was done in the past.      Right now they are in their infancy stages and are looking for commitments to get things going.    If you have any questions, or want to reserve a team spot, please contact bill and let him know sooner rather than later.

Turnout has always been great in the past and it should be a fun event, for all those participating.

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

219-898-5705

www.eteamz.com/sbshl
Join the SBSHL YAHOO GROUP BY CLICKING HERE
I went to a fight the other night, and a hockey game broke out. ---Rodney Dangerfield

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#469 From: "Peter" <bauer_peter@...>
Date: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:56 pm
Subject: No rat hockey 8/4 and 8/6 peter01bauer
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The Ice Box has been rented out to the Tire Rack for their winter ad shoot next
week.  No rat hockey Wednesday 8/4 or on Friday 8/6.

Mike should have the Wednesday and Friday schedules to me soon for August
through March.  I'll post them when available.  (Remember that once the kids get
back, Fridays are no longer open rat.  There will be a few Fridays when the kids
are not skating, and those dates will be open rat and will be included in the
August through March schedule.

If you know anyone not on this board who plays weekday rat, please pass along
this info.

Thanks!
Pete

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#470 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Tue Aug 3, 2010 2:19 am
Subject: fall winter hockey southbendhoc...
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guys the annual email is going out tonight    you might get a duplicate

First off   you are receiving this email because in the past about an interest in hockey.   If you want off the list, please let me know.

First off the rink has youth, high school, college and womens league besides the mens league and I just wanted to share the other opportunities at the rink.

The IYHL (irish youth hockey league) is having registration august 4th, 8th, and 14th. Theres more information on their website

http://www.irishyouthhockey.com

Saturday august 14th from 1-6pm is the rinks official back to hockey day, where there will be a used equipment sale activities for the kids, food and registration for the IYHL. There will also be prizes raffled off as well. The rink will be open for an open skate if you want to come out and skate. I am looking to put up a table for the mens league and am looking for volunteers to basically sit at the table and field questions.   We will be raffling of a couple of $200 vouchers for the mens league. The vouchers can be applied for your league fees for the upcoming fall winter session.

I am working on some adult clinics given by mike mcneill starting around mid august and run thru sept before the session.   Cost is going to be $10 a session and this time, we are going to split the sessions up for those who are truly new and for those with a year or two under their belt.   No need to reserve a spot, just show up and bring 10 bucks.

I will try and setup some open rat sessions through the week if ice is available and I will post the times on the yahoo group (link below)

There will be a 3 on 3 tourney on Sunday Sept 12th and will run from about noon to 7:30. This year we are making this a charity event for a friend of steve rogers AUTOPLUS98@... who has fallen on hard times. He is in the hospital at the moment, and steve can get you the details if you want to hear the story. I have chosen to get involved and hope we raise some money for him.    Steves brother in law is a caterer in Chicago and will be donating the food. He has a grill and will be grilling pulled pork and chicken with side dishes.   We will have kegs, as we have in the past and maybe get some donations to raffle off as well. I am hoping for 20 teams, 4 divisions, 4 games with a possible 5th.   Cost will be $270 per team goalies free....   Please email me either steve or myself if you want to play, have questions, or want to donate something. I am hearing there will be other things being donate for raffles and what not. It will be a good time to get on the ice before we start the regular season. All proceeds will go to the cause.

Fall/winter division will start monday sept 13th and run thru mid/end march.   We will split into 4 divisions, maybe 5 A, B (possibly split), C and REC.   I am still working on costs. A few things to consider: ice, insurance, security fee, and refs.   I base the team fee on these costs and then figure out how many games played to come up with a figure.

    We have not had our annual board meeting for the rink, so I have no idea what the costs of ice will be. Last year it was $250, but I am going to assume it will be $260 this year.   Thats what the IYHL is basing their fees on and without a board decision, thats what I am going to have to go on as well. We paid the refs each game $20 a piece and I expect the same this year. Each game will have 2 refs.    So with the 260 + 40= 300 you can figure each team pays $150 per game for just the ice and ref costs.

The rink charged each player $10 bucks for the spring/summer to help pay for the security guards and I would assume the same this winter.   I never did a head count and rather applied it evenly per team. I figured each team on a 14 man roster. Some had more some had less, but regardless every team paid 140 bucks. Expect the same this winter, although since we havent had our annual board meeting, I am just guesstimating if thats even a word.

Insurance was around $23 bucks last year and I am still waiting to hear back from our insurance guy to see what were paying this year. We have more players and more teams so our insurance policy will cost more, but I always split it up per person. I am not sure what its going to cost but estimate around 25 bucks a guy just to be safe.   It was 20 bucks 2 winters ago, and 18 the year before. USA hockey costs $35 and doesnt have as good medical coverage that we carry. USA hockeys $35 fee is based per individual not team. If theres people on the ice and if one person does not have insurance and an injury occurs, USAH wont pay the claim. Also, with USAH we would only be able to use USAH refs. If for some reason, we dont have 2 refs on the ice for a game and an injury occurs, USAH wont pay the claim. Our policy is an umbrella policy and we wont have to worry about those things. Working in chicago, I dont have time to monitor this stuff on who is and who isnt insured. The policy covers everyone regardless if a refs not there, or if some guys brother in law sneaks in and wants to play a game. Like the security fee, I am going to base it per team. Again figure 25 bucks a guy and 14 guys regardless of your roster. So figure $350 per team.    I dont have time to figure out if guys are playing on two teams or if a guys is part time, just count on $350 a team.

A league will be run by brandon rigby brandonr@... right now they are at 42 guys but could use some more. I believe they have 4 goalies and they look to start the A league back up again.   A league consists of guys out of high school, current NDU players, guys who played juniors, and basically anyone who is able to play at the highest local level. The teams will be based on a draft. They usually play 32 games and times are usually on sundays wednesdays and thursdays.    At 32 games figure

4800 (32 x 150 ice and refs)
350 (insurance)
140 (security)

=5290     I like round numbers and will round up to cover the $400 in vouchers for the IYHL back to hockey and to cover any unexpected costs like bounced checks and guys stiffing the league. I have the stories if you want. so guys figure $5325 per team. If you guys play more games, then the cost goes up. Were talking $35 bucks extra a team or about 2 or 3 bucks a guys.....suck it up!!!!     based on a 14 man roster were talking 380 bucks. A few years back we were charging 400 a guys so this isnt anything extensive.

B league is going to be headed up by dave mensik and kevin masters.   B league will have about 8-12 teams.   Right now they are making an effort to have parity and will be going thru rosters and pushing the better players up to A league.   The B league is also competitive but not as fast as the A league. The B league consists of guys who have played for a while and are usually guys in the 30-50's.   B league will probably play the same amount of games as the A guys, so figure on the same figure $5325. Games are anywhere from sunday night thru thursday night.

There is a possibility of having a lower B division for those teams that dont quite fit in the middle, like bulls, nd faculty, goshen, beavers, maybe franks silver? We will figure out where everyone is going at the captains meeting.

C league started out as the beginners league 7 or years ago with 2 teams and blossomed to about 12-15 teams last fall and then split those teams up for the B and C league.   We plan on doing the same with the C and rec league this fall. C league is for the guy who plays at a lower pace but is looking for a good time. Most of the guys in C have been playing for a several years or who have played for awhile and have slowed down. Games are anywhere from sunday night thru thursday night. The C league has traditionally played 26 games in the past. Based on that

3900 (26 x 150 ice and refs)
350 insurance
140 security

=4390

Again, looking for a round number and to create a small surplus I am going to with $4425 per team.   based on a 14 man roster were looking at just under 320 a person.   I think most guys it was about 325 a guy in the past.   So this is pretty much on target.

Rec league will probably play the same same amount of games so they too can bank on the $4425 team fee. Going on what we created this summer, we will have a rec league this winter.    Rec league is similar to the co ed league in summer, but at a slightly faster pace.    Rec league will encapsulate the love of the game where winning isnt everything.    This is a good way for beginners to join the league without feeling pressured to not hold the team back get their feet wet and have a good time in the process.   Most of the teams will have captains at a higher level that will help build confidence and teach the newbies how to play. Rules and penalties will be called tighter and we will have a zero tolerance policy to keep the spirit of the division.   Games are anywhere from sunday night thru thursday night.

Team fees can be paid by post dated check(s), cash, or by paypal (add 3%) on the eteamz website.   I want half up from by say sept 7th and the other half paid by october 1st.   Teams that dont pay will be called on and information shared with the other teams.    This has always been the biggest thing I have dreaded.   Captains I will be leaning on you guys to come thru.

We are going to be instituting a few rules this winter. First off guys can only play on one team per division. This is to close the loophole when guys get suspensions, and then wondering what team are they sitting games for.    We will add to it that if a guy plays in 2 divisions and get suspended, they will have to sit out all their games until their suspended games are served in their division. Theres really no punishment if they sit out a game, only to play for their "other" team the next night.

With guys wanting more and more and playing on different teams in different divisions, people will have to keep in mind that with two rinks going people will sometimes have both of their teams possibly playing at the same time.    We will make every attempt to work a schedule, but no whining that its not working out.   Theres other teams out there...live with it!!! Scheduling is a nightmare, please make my life easier. If captains want to establiish a schedulinng comittee, be my guest.   I can tell you scheduling as always has been a nightmare and youre always going to piss off someone. I have done my best to get the schedule up as quickly as possible, but sometimes its not good enough. Have at it if you want.

This summer has been pretty lax and we hope to reign things in this winter.   One thing is cages and shields.   Heres a heads up. All players will need to wear an UNmodified cage or shield in order to comply with the rink policy and our insurance. Also, as far as subs go, we encourage guys to increase their rosters so they wont be using subs.   This summer has been horrendous and it seems that some teams had a different set of guys every other night.   In order to eliminate this problem we will be giving the captains a one game suspension for allowing a non rostered sub to play a game with them.   If the captains not there, we will give one to the alternate captain.   Hopefully this will eliminate this problem.

The disciplinary board will consist of 8-10 guys, but will be looking for 2 or 3 more.   We would like representation from all the divisions. Their job will be to take the reports from the refs of incidents and decide what game suspensions if any are needed. Decisions are to be made as quickly as possible and to be given out fairly.    If youre interested and feel that you will have good communication plus the ability to make tough decisions, please let me know.   Currently we have Brandon Rigby A, Dave mensik B, Kevin masters B, Kevin nobes, B, Matt popovic C, Todd montgomery REC.   I dont really sit on the board, but I do get involved on some issues.

There will be a captains meeting sometime the end of august to touch on some things and to express concerns and answer questions.   I will let you know when that happens.

If guys dont have a team yet, please let me know and I will make the utmost effort to place you on one.   Any other questions can be placed to me and I will do my best to answer them.

As I send this out a few things that I have just recently become aware of. The refs might be looking for a raise.   We have paid them each $20 in the past and I have always tried to keep costs down.   Not sure if others are willing to step up and cover for them if they decide to walk.   Keep in mind refs in the IYHL and high school make between 30 and 85 bucks a game.

Still not sure on the insurance costs, ice fees, and security fee.    Still a lot of what ifs. I want to basically get the word out and let people know that this is the costs based on my assumptions.   Anything can change, but I am not anticipating any big surprises.   Another thing being floated around is for the A or B divisions to not play the full 32 games and go with a similar schedule like the C or rec. That will be a captains decision.

Thats all for now.

thanks

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#471 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Thu Aug 5, 2010 11:43 am
Subject: URGENT ASSISTANCE NEEDED!!!!... jeff sax southbendhoc...
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I'm sorry this had to come in a hurry,I am caught up in a real mess and i need your help.I regret i didn't tell you about my trip to the United Kingdom before i left,I am in Wales,United Kingdom and a terrible thing happened to me over the night.I was mugged at gun point , the muggers made away with all my belongings.My cell phone,credit card,cash and some important documents are all gone.I was able to make contact with the UK Police and i was directed to the Embassy, but they seems to be taking things too slow... My flight leaves soon but i am having problems sorting out my hotel bills and also need getting my ticket straightened out. I need your help so urgently, please reply asap.So i can tell you how to go about it..

Hope to read from you soon..

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#472 From: "Peter" <bauer_peter@...>
Date: Sat Aug 7, 2010 5:58 pm
Subject: Fall/Winter Rat Hockey schedule peter01bauer
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Please note that the times vary from week to week -- Mike Klute has done a great
job finding space for us, but mark your calendars with the correct times for
each week.

There are two schedules below, but the information is (should be) the same in
both schedules.  The first schedule is a chronological, week-by-week listing. 
The second is the same information presented in a day/time listing for folks who
have work schedules that enable them to make some times but not others.

Please remember that Fridays not on the list below are invitation only.

See you at the rink!
Pete

Chronological
W    8/11    2:00 - 3:30
F    8/13    1:30 - 3:00
W    8/18    2:00 - 3:30
F    8/20    1:30 - 3:00
W    8/25    2:00 - 3:30
F    8/27    1:30 - 3:00
W    9/1     2:00 - 3:30
F    9/3     1:00 - 3:00
W    9/8     2:00 - 3:30
F    910     1:00 - 3:00
W    9/15    2:00 - 3:30
F    9/17    1:00 - 3:00
W    9/22    2:00 - 3:30
F    9/24    1:00 - 3:00
W    9/29    2:00 - 3:30
F    10/1    1:00 - 3:00
W    10/6    3:30 - 5:00
W    10/13   3:30 - 5:00
W    10/20   3:30 - 5:00
W    10/27   3:30 - 5:00
F    10/29   1:00 - 3:30
W    11/3    3:30 - 5:00
W    11/10   3:30 - 5:00
W    11/17   3:30 - 5:00
W    11/24   3:30 - 5:00
W    12/1    3:30 - 5:00
F    12/03   1:00 - 3:00
W    12/8    3:30 - 5:00
W    12/15   3:30 - 5:00
W    12/22   3:30 - 5:00
W    12/29   3:30 - 5:00
W    1/5/11  3:30 - 5:00
F    1/7     1:00 - 3:00
W    1/12    3:30 - 5:00
W    1/19    3:30 - 5:00
W    1/26    3:30 - 5:00
W    2/2     3:30 - 5:00
W    2/9     3:30 - 5:00
F    2/11    1:00 - 3:00
W    2/16    3:30 - 5:00
W    2/23    3:30 - 5:00
W    3/2     3:30 - 5:00
W    3/9     3:30 - 5:00
W    3/16    3:30 - 5:00
F    3/18    1:00 - 3:00
W    3/23    3:30 - 5:00

------------------------------------------------

By Date/Time

Wednesdays from 2:00 to 3:30
8/11
8/18
8/25
9/1
9/8
9/15
9/22
9/29

Wednesdays from 3:30 to 5:00
10/6
10/13
10/20
10/27
11/3
11/10
11/17
11/24
12/1
12/8
12/15
12/22
12/29
1/5
1/12
1/19
1/26
2/2
2/9
2/16
2/23
3/2
3/9
3/16
3/23

Fridays 1:30 to 3:00
8/13
8/20
8/27

Fridays 1:00 to 3:00
9/3
9/10
9/17
9/24
10/1
10/29
12/3
1/7
2/11
3/18

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#473 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Sun Aug 8, 2010 6:08 am
Subject: sept 12th 3 on 3 fundraiser and senior league back to hockey day southbendhoc...
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Guys this is still a work in practice, but its looking to be bigger than just a 3 on 3 tourney. The food will be free and catered for participants and food available for purchase for anyone who wants to show. Steves brother in law is a caterer and is bring pulled pork, chickens, corn on the cob, baked potatoes...etc He has a smoker and it should be good food. He is working on getting a live band to come out and play as well. Right now steve is looking for anything people may want to donate. His email is autoplus98@... and cell is 269-277-0830 If you have rosters or want to play please email me I am sure this will fill up pretty fast.

Please pass this on

thanks

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#474 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:05 am
Subject: back to hockey day saturday aug 14th southbendhoc...
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Guys matt donze said he would spearhead this. There is the back to hockey day this saturday from 1 to 6 I want to setup a table and do some recruiting If anyone can make it and just answer some questions please contact matt mdonze@... and let him know youre free

We are raffling off 2 $200 vouchers that you can use towards league fees there will be other things being raffled as well

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#475 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:04 am
Subject: adult hockey clinics southbendhoc...
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There will be 5 adult clinics by mike mcneill
$10 a session for guys who are newbies and want to learn how to play hockey

they are
friday aug 20th 8:15-9:45
tuesday Aug 24th 8:45-10:15
monday aug 30th 6:30-8:00
wed sept 8th 8:15-9:45
thur sept 9th 7-8:15

With one rink up this is all thats available. If you have friends interested in playing this should get them ready for the fall/winter session. You dont have to attend all of them either.

This is geared to beginners and those who have little experience

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

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#476 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:36 am
Subject: beginner clinics southbendhoc...
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Guys below is a condensed version of what the beginner clinics will be covering according to mike. Please feel free to pass this on to the newbies you might know, or anyone you feel might be interested in joining the league this fall. Below is a letter I received from mike.

Jeff,

The clinics will be very similar to any learn to play/learn to skate program. Skating will awalys be the big focus of each session.

(FRIDAY AUGUST 20TH 8:15-9:45) Early on, I will introduce the "hockey position" and focus on always trying to skate in a good hockey position. We will talk about understanding our edges, the crossover, tight turns, accelerating out of turns, pivots and stopping.

(TUESDAY AUGUST 24TH 8:45-10:15) Passing would be the big focus of the second clinic. Making a pass, receiving a pass, passing to a player who is moving, and emphasizing no one wants to receive a bad pass.

(MONDAY AUGUST 30TH 6:30-8:00) Stick handling will be the focus of the third clinic. Stationary, moving, moving through obstacles, and how to stick handle in traffic.

(WEDNESDAY SEPT 8TH 8:15-9:45) Shooting will be the focus of the fourth clinic. I will talk about different types of shots, shooting while in stride and what is a shooter looking at when attempting to score.

(THURSDAY SEPT 9TH 7-8:15) The last clinic I plan on getting into some positions, some odd man situations and and some thoughts on how to take advantage of any odd man situation.

These clinics are always a lot of fun and I look forward to lots of input from the group. Some of the best moments are when we are taking a break and simply talking hockey with the group. Thank you for your help in setting up the clinics.

MIike

Guys each session is 10 bucks and you dont have to sign up either. You can attend all or some of them. I probably wont be there to collect and this is based on the honor system. All I ask is that someone there collects the 10 bucks and turns it into mike either before or the end of each session. This is open to anyone male or female OVER 18, so dont bring your kids.

FYI mikes email is mmcneill14@... if you have any questions, or suggestions

thanks

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

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#477 From: "southbendhockeyplayer" <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:07 am
Subject: open rat saturday night 10:30 august 21st $10 southbendhoc...
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Guys I am running rat hockey this saturday night around 10:30pm   I have a
goalie lined up and could use another.    Looking for 22 skaters, cost is $10
bucks goalie is free.   Please email me if youre interested.

thanks

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#478 From: Jeff Sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: open rat saturday night 10:30 august 21st $10 southbendhoc...
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Guys we still have plenty of space. If we can't get at least 15 guys by Friday. I will have to cancel. Please email me if you're coming

Jeff Sax

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On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:07 PM, "southbendhockeyplayer" <southbendhockey@...> wrote:

Guys I am running rat hockey this saturday night around 10:30pm I have a goalie lined up and could use another. Looking for 22 skaters, cost is $10 bucks goalie is free. Please email me if youre interested.

thanks

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#479 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:29 am
Subject: open rat this saturday night 10 pm southbendhoc...
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open rat this saturday night, august 28th 10 pm I am capping it at 20 guys and a couple goalies

cost is 10 bucks, goalies free

Please email me if you want to play

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

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#480 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:15 am
Subject: open rat saturday night 10pm southbendhoc...
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Guys I still have room for 8 more people

we hit the ice @ 10pm cost is 10 bucks

please email me before friday night if you want to come out

Jeff Sax South Bend Senior Hockey League

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#481 From: jeff sax <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:35 am
Subject: 3 on 3 spet 12th southbendhoc...
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Guys we are still looking for teams for the 3 on 3 on sunday sept 12th. We currently have 12 teams and have room for 8 more. I am still looking for goalies as well. Please get the wor out. If you are interested in playing, please let me know ASAP.

thanks

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219-898-5705

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#482 From: "southbendhockeyplayer" <southbendhockey@...>
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2010 12:26 am
Subject: open rat this sunday 7:30pm southbendhoc...
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Guys I am running open rat this sunday @ 7:30 pm   I have 10 skaters already,
looking for 10 more and a goalie.   First 10 to respond, get the nod.


10 bucks, goalie is free.

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#483 From: "Peter" <bauer_peter@...>
Date: Thu Sep 9, 2010 11:51 pm
Subject: Friday open rat 1-3 pm peter01bauer
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Sorry for the late reminder -- the Yeshiva kids are celebrating the Jewish New
Year this week, so tomorrow (Friday 9/10) is Open Rat from 1:00 to 3:00.

Cheers!
Pete

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