I told him that Robert Ryan gave me it!

--- In sonsteam@yahoogroups.com, "Moffatt, Russell"
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> Sent: 30 November 2004 14:23
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> Fantastic.  Thanks, Russell.
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> Gordon has just joined the company I work for so that picture has
> been forwarded to everyone in the office.
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> wrote:
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> > He scored a hat trick in Auchinleck's 1992 Scottish Junior Cup
> final
> > 4-0 victory over Glenafton.
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C'mon Stevie it wasn't as good as that!

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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:30 PM
Subject: [sonsteam] Re: Alloa Game


>
>
> Absolutely dire.

Absolutely dire.


--- In sonsteam@yahoogroups.com, "whiplash262000" <grantwhiplash@h...>
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> Erm... where to begin on this one? hmm... one meanigful shot on goal,
> couple of penalty claims - one of which looked like a certain foul.
> Em.. cant really blame match officials, players have to admit fault
> even if the did lose to a strange goal. On a positive note the pies
> were particuarly tasty and oh yeah, Bonar was awful tonight. Very
> disappointed.

Erm... where to begin on this one? hmm... one meanigful shot on goal,
couple of penalty claims - one of which looked like a certain foul.
Em.. cant really blame match officials, players have to admit fault
even if the did lose to a strange goal. On a positive note the pies
were particuarly tasty and oh yeah, Bonar was awful tonight. Very
disappointed.

Hee Hee

I hope you haven't revealed your source....

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Sent: 30 November 2004 14:23
To: sonsteam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sonsteam] Re: Gordon Mills




Fantastic.  Thanks, Russell.

Gordon has just joined the company I work for so that picture has
been forwarded to everyone in the office.

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> He scored a hat trick in Auchinleck's 1992 Scottish Junior Cup
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Fantastic.  Thanks, Russell.

Gordon has just joined the company I work for so that picture has
been forwarded to everyone in the office.

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He scored a hat trick in Auchinleck's 1992 Scottish Junior Cup final
4-0 victory over Glenafton.

I found a crappy photo of him which I have put in the photos section.

Russell


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> He palyed one game (as a trialist) v. Southampton in a friendly in
the 80's. He and his broyher Archie both of whom I knew from school
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He palyed one game (as a trialist) v. Southampton in a friendly in the 80's. He
and his broyher Archie both of whom I knew from school were great Sons fans.
Gordon had an impressive career with Auchinleck and Kilwinning and was always
amongst the top scorers in the junior game.




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Yeah, that sounds about right.  Thanks, Russell.

Any details apreciated.

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I think he played a couple of times for us as a trialist.

He had a good career in the Juniors, someone will no doubt fill us in on who
with.

Ex Hermie Academy boy

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Anybody remember a bloke of this name playing for the Sons in the
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Centre-forward, I think.








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Anybody remember a bloke of this name playing for the Sons in the
eighties?

Centre-forward, I think.

I just thought it was a curious way of describing his target. Anyway great
to get a victory in the cup. This gives us an opportunity to win our first
home Scottish Cup tie against league opposition since February 1979 when we
beat the Bankies courtesy of two Graham Sharp goals (source: D.Carson)

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Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [sonsteam] Re: Most Hated


>
> dont even go there Rab
>
>

Folks

We have been experiencing waht are termed 'techincal difficulties' with the
DFCsite due to re-point of the domain to the correct hosting company.

In the last few days this has meant that when trying to view the site many
of you will be faced with 'server not responding' type messages.

I'm assured the problem clears itself over time, however meantime if you
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Apologies for the frustration this causes.

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dont even go there Rab


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You know I was thinking (no really!). Brian Fairley said at the AGM that he
was targetting a forward. Someone who "has a previous proven goalscoring
record at this level" Who could it be?


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Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:33 PM
Subject: [sonsteam] Re: Most Hated




... and the author has obviously never seen Forfar (Alan Rattray) or
Stranraer (David "Diver" Graham.)

what a shock Tommy got  after the cowden people gave him his winnings
he felt the envelope and said there doesnt seem to be a lot in there
the cowden bloke replied --its a cheque----aye but the sting in the
tail
was it was a GIROCHEQUE

Everybody knows Paddy was a c*nt, no need to single out these guys.
Especially Billy, who never has a strong opinion about anyone other
than match officials.
Actually there's a common link there, neither Paddy nor linesmen know
their offside from their backside :-)


--- In sonsteam@yahoogroups.com, Pinkerton Grant
<grant.pinkerton@g...> wrote:
> Was the voting panel made up of Messrs Findlay, Casey & Billy?
>

Also in todays Record was a short note stating that as a reward to his
performances for Sunderland, Neil Collins has been given a years extention to
his contract which now expires in 2007.


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... and the author has obviously never seen Forfar (Alan Rattray) or
Stranraer (David "Diver" Graham.)

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> The article, in full, is below.  It reads like it has been written
by
> an illiterate 12-year-old.  I miss a lot of things about Scotland –
> the Daily Record isn't one of them!
>
> NEIL LENNON joins a long lost of players who have endured abuse in
> Scotland. Whether it's religion, haircut, face or inability to go
> through a game without a fight, footballers have been getting stick
> for years.
> Here are 10 more players supporters loved to hate.
> WILLIE MILLER RARELY has such a revered figure in Scottish football
> been so barracked by fans. Reason: Because he was so good. The
> Aberdeen legend took dogs' abuse at every ground.
> PAUL GASCOIGNE A FLAWED genius whose off-field escapades - of which
> there were many - made him a hate figure for everyone outside Ibrox.
> DAVE BOWMAN ONCE owned a florists but was no softy. Bowman's tough
> attitude led to a huge number of bookings and opposing fans gave
him
> pelters for it.
> DARREN JACKSON DAZZA was mouthy and narky, two traits which do not
go
> down well with fans who always let Jackson know what they thought
of
> him.
> KENNY BLACK WHETHER it was the mullet or the way he could very
rarely
> be slightly late in the tackle, there was never a game when he
didn't
> get verbally abused.
> PETER GRANT EASILY one of the nicest people off the pitch but on it
> he moaned like the missus after you had come home five hours late.
It
> wasn't just the Rangers fan who didn't like Pedro, it was everyone.
> CHIC CHARNLEY HAD almost as many rows with fans as he did referees.
> Easy to wind up and everybody tried it.
> PADDY FLANNERY ASK any fan of lower-league clubs who their least
> favourite player was and almost everyone will pick Paddy.
> The former Dumbarton striker seemed to revel in the abuse, nearly
as
> much as the ones who dished it out.
> PAOLO DI CANIO WHINED, screamed abuse at referees and slagged
players
> through the media - and that was before he pushed referee Paul
> Alcott. Even detractors could not disagree that he was brilliant
with
> the ball.
> GORDON STRACHAN OFTEN viewed as a wee annoying so-and-so who always
> had a word to say about everyone else and wound up everyone around
> him.

The article, in full, is below.  It reads like it has been written by
an illiterate 12-year-old.  I miss a lot of things about Scotland –
the Daily Record isn't one of them!

NEIL LENNON joins a long lost of players who have endured abuse in
Scotland. Whether it's religion, haircut, face or inability to go
through a game without a fight, footballers have been getting stick
for years.
Here are 10 more players supporters loved to hate.
WILLIE MILLER RARELY has such a revered figure in Scottish football
been so barracked by fans. Reason: Because he was so good. The
Aberdeen legend took dogs' abuse at every ground.
PAUL GASCOIGNE A FLAWED genius whose off-field escapades - of which
there were many - made him a hate figure for everyone outside Ibrox.
DAVE BOWMAN ONCE owned a florists but was no softy. Bowman's tough
attitude led to a huge number of bookings and opposing fans gave him
pelters for it.
DARREN JACKSON DAZZA was mouthy and narky, two traits which do not go
down well with fans who always let Jackson know what they thought of
him.
KENNY BLACK WHETHER it was the mullet or the way he could very rarely
be slightly late in the tackle, there was never a game when he didn't
get verbally abused.
PETER GRANT EASILY one of the nicest people off the pitch but on it
he moaned like the missus after you had come home five hours late. It
wasn't just the Rangers fan who didn't like Pedro, it was everyone.
CHIC CHARNLEY HAD almost as many rows with fans as he did referees.
Easy to wind up and everybody tried it.
PADDY FLANNERY ASK any fan of lower-league clubs who their least
favourite player was and almost everyone will pick Paddy.
The former Dumbarton striker seemed to revel in the abuse, nearly as
much as the ones who dished it out.
PAOLO DI CANIO WHINED, screamed abuse at referees and slagged players
through the media - and that was before he pushed referee Paul
Alcott. Even detractors could not disagree that he was brilliant with
the ball.
GORDON STRACHAN OFTEN viewed as a wee annoying so-and-so who always
had a word to say about everyone else and wound up everyone around
him.

I thought a certain Mr Donald would be there
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   Subject: RE: [sonsteam] Most Hated


   Was the voting panel made up of Messrs Findlay, Casey & Billy?

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   Hated" players are listed. Two former Sons are there. At number 7 perhaps
   unsurprisingly is Chic Charnley but at number 8 (Ahead of Paulo Di Canio and
   Gordon Strachan) is one Patrick Flannery Esq.!!!!


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Was the voting panel made up of Messrs Findlay, Casey & Billy?

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Subject: [sonsteam] Most Hated




In a feature in the Daily Retard today (as part of the Neil Lennon "story" -
shock! horror! the Old Firm fans are sectarian! goodness!) The 10 "Most
Hated" players are listed. Two former Sons are there. At number 7 perhaps
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In a feature in the Daily Retard today (as part of the Neil Lennon "story" -
shock! horror! the Old Firm fans are sectarian! goodness!) The 10 "Most Hated"
players are listed. Two former Sons are there. At number 7 perhaps
unsurprisingly is Chic Charnley but at number 8 (Ahead of Paulo Di Canio and
Gordon Strachan) is one Patrick Flannery Esq.!!!!


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The DFC website is currently unavailable for updates due to re-pointing of
the domain name to a new host.

Below is this week's Sons Lotto Result

Sons Weekly Lotto
Draw Numbers for 24.11.2004
5 16 28 30
No Jackpot Winner
Next Week’s Jackpot:
£6250
£10 Winners
J. Stewart, Dumbarton
B.L. & M.F. Pryke, Dumbarton
Andrew Whitfield, Dumbarton
S. Johnston, Dumbarton
D. MacPherson, Dumbarton
Thomas Mailley, Alexandria


Next Draw at:
Alexandria Post Office
On Wednesday 1 December, 2004

One other thing - another postponement on Saturday will see us travel
to Cowdung on Tuesday night.

Good to know what you're doing and when, isn't it?

--- In sonsteam@yahoogroups.com, "andrewg312003" <andrewg31@h...> wrote:
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> Folks,
>
> As you will see on the website fixture list, I've been informed by
> Graeme that the Alloa match has been scheduled for a week tomorrow
> night (Tuesday the 30th) at 7:30pm.
>
> However, if we draw with Cowdung, the replay will take place that
> night instead.

And if the Cowden game is postponed again, we'll still be trying to get it
played at Central Park.

Great Fun.
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   Subject: [sonsteam] Alloa match



   Folks,

   As you will see on the website fixture list, I've been informed by
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   night (Tuesday the 30th) at 7:30pm.

   However, if we draw with Cowdung, the replay will take place that
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Folks,

As you will see on the website fixture list, I've been informed by
Graeme that the Alloa match has been scheduled for a week tomorrow
night (Tuesday the 30th) at 7:30pm.

However, if we draw with Cowdung, the replay will take place that
night instead.

but eff-icious has a bit of a ring to it....

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>Reply-To: sonsteam@yahoogroups.com
>To: <sonsteam@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [sonsteam] Rocket Science-NOT
>Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:57:04 -0000
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>It's officious.
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>
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The key to this is:

"We as a club lost heavily from catering supplies which had to be
destroyed."

By calling an early inspection it makes it easier for the ref. to call the
game off. By leaving it late, Cowden probably were hedging their bets (not
to mention 30 lunches and 300 pies) on the ref giving the ok due to the late
hour. I can tell you that Fairley gave a quote to the press to the effect
that the pitch was unplayable. Maybe D.F.C. will complain but probably not.
Glass houses and stones spring to mind.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Alec Darroch" <alec_darroch@...>
To: <sonsteam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 6:28 AM
Subject: [sonsteam] RE: cancellation of saturdays game


>
> thought i'd post this reply from the cowden website.  does nt admit blame
> and does nt blame match officials, yet.  i thought both teams had been up
> for playing on it?
>
>
>
>>From: "Gordon McDougall" <Gordon@...>
>>To: "Alec Darroch" <alec_darroch@...>
>>Subject: RE: cancellation of saturdays game
>>Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:25:07 -0000
>>
>>Alec,
>>We are extremely disappointed at the game being called off today. When
>>we checked this morning, we did not consider it necessary to call for an
>>inspection. Following the referee calling the match off, the pitch was
>>seen and checked by Dumbarton directors who were with us in the board
>>room for lunch, the sponsors representative and many Dumbarton fans who
>>had turned up. All were astonished at what they saw. We as a club lost
>>heavily from catering supplies which had to be destroyed. I am not
>>saying the pitch was perfect but if you walked on it at any point other
>>than the very small area at the goalmouth, it let your heel dig in. It
>>has, as you will see next week, a heavy covering of grass which
>>prevented the frost getting right through in the one night or so that
>>had been very cold. The goal areas, about six feet square which were
>>thin on grass were hard but flat, no worse that any late season match
>>after a dry spell, there was absolutely no risk of slipping as there was
>>no frost. After the Dumbarton team left, we trained on the park in a
>>normal session. Unfortunately,I feel that any protest can only rebound
>>on the persons making it and will wait on whatever is said by the
>>referee before making any comment.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Alec Darroch [mailto:alec_darroch@...]
>>Sent: 20 November 2004 21:16
>>To: bluebrazil@...
>>Subject: cancellation of saturdays game
>>
>>hi there, i'm a dumbarton fan who'd travelled thro' on saturday with
>>friends
>>to watch the game.  We'd left early to visit the supporters bar at your
>>park
>>after seeing the invite from one of your directors to the visiting fans.
>>
>>We'd travelled relieved that there did n't appear to be any doubt over
>>wether or not the game would go ahead.
>>
>>I see from your website that the two teams were happy to play but that
>>the
>>ref did n't believe the pitch to be playable.  Could  you confirm this
>>for
>>me, and also what the weather conditions locally had been overnight.
>>
>>I will be e-mailing the SFA to complain about the late call off.
>>Recently
>>we have suffered with late call offs before games at Berwick and East
>>Fife,
>>and as a result of complaints to the SFA and SFL received assurances
>>that if
>>a game was in any doubt arrangements should be made to inspect the pitch
>>no
>>later than mid-day.  I don't believe there to be any fault on your clubs
>>
>>part, but would like to know more about what happened on this occasion.
>>
>>yours sincerely
>>
>>alec darroch
>>
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thought i'd post this reply from the cowden website.  does nt admit blame
and does nt blame match officials, yet.  i thought both teams had been up
for playing on it?



>From: "Gordon McDougall" <Gordon@...>
>To: "Alec Darroch" <alec_darroch@...>
>Subject: RE: cancellation of saturdays game
>Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:25:07 -0000
>
>Alec,
>We are extremely disappointed at the game being called off today. When
>we checked this morning, we did not consider it necessary to call for an
>inspection. Following the referee calling the match off, the pitch was
>seen and checked by Dumbarton directors who were with us in the board
>room for lunch, the sponsors representative and many Dumbarton fans who
>had turned up. All were astonished at what they saw. We as a club lost
>heavily from catering supplies which had to be destroyed. I am not
>saying the pitch was perfect but if you walked on it at any point other
>than the very small area at the goalmouth, it let your heel dig in. It
>has, as you will see next week, a heavy covering of grass which
>prevented the frost getting right through in the one night or so that
>had been very cold. The goal areas, about six feet square which were
>thin on grass were hard but flat, no worse that any late season match
>after a dry spell, there was absolutely no risk of slipping as there was
>no frost. After the Dumbarton team left, we trained on the park in a
>normal session. Unfortunately,I feel that any protest can only rebound
>on the persons making it and will wait on whatever is said by the
>referee before making any comment.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alec Darroch [mailto:alec_darroch@...]
>Sent: 20 November 2004 21:16
>To: bluebrazil@...
>Subject: cancellation of saturdays game
>
>hi there, i'm a dumbarton fan who'd travelled thro' on saturday with
>friends
>to watch the game.  We'd left early to visit the supporters bar at your
>park
>after seeing the invite from one of your directors to the visiting fans.
>
>We'd travelled relieved that there did n't appear to be any doubt over
>wether or not the game would go ahead.
>
>I see from your website that the two teams were happy to play but that
>the
>ref did n't believe the pitch to be playable.  Could  you confirm this
>for
>me, and also what the weather conditions locally had been overnight.
>
>I will be e-mailing the SFA to complain about the late call off.
>Recently
>we have suffered with late call offs before games at Berwick and East
>Fife,
>and as a result of complaints to the SFA and SFL received assurances
>that if
>a game was in any doubt arrangements should be made to inspect the pitch
>no
>later than mid-day.  I don't believe there to be any fault on your clubs
>
>part, but would like to know more about what happened on this occasion.
>
>yours sincerely
>
>alec darroch
>
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