look, i like to play for fun just as much, and i have
tried to put together a game near me, and just to let
you know that it isnt my fault if i cannot access the
internet and this is the first time ive said something
about the games not being near me.
lets actually try to be nice, i try to keep an ear out
and join a game when i can

--- Katie Sobush <k_sobush@...> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> I sent you an email off list with directions. In
> addition by the time you sent the email requesting
> where the game was being played I had already sent
> an email to the group with directions that you could
> have very easily read and understood. I am calling
> you out on this. You failed to take initiative here
> by just reading the emails sent to you personally
> and on the list and for that you should take
> responsibility. William, who has taken all of the
> intitaive in forming games, bringing people
> together, forming the list, and has only in default
> taken a position of leadership because nobody else
> wants to sent you a public apology to the list- yet
> you continue to press on without acknowledging your
> own failures.
>
> And now that I'm on a rant- i want you to know that
> I do not appreciate your listing of all of the
> events/excuses in your life that have prevented you
> from playing soccer with us.
> 1. because it gives me the impression that you
> believe the rest of us do not have lives of our own
> that are not contingent on these very sporadic
> soccer games.
> 2. because honestly, I don't care if you come to
> play. I like it when new people come, and certainly
> when there are more people, but never have I left
> one of these semi pick-up games without having had a
> lot of fun and a pretty decent work-out- regardless
> of how many people were there.
> 3. It's fun- it's one of the care-free things in my
> life and now you continue to make an issue because
> you fail to take initiative and i don't think i'd
> like very much to be around you because you are
> stressful.
> and
> 4. You haven't been a part of this group for a
> while- you are just someone on a public list who
> complains every chance he gets.
>
> There will be no martyrs in soccer atlanta yahoo
> groups not you or anyone else. It's a soccer game-
> one with only rules regulating aggressive behavior,
> a game when the next goal only means halftime or the
> end- no recorded points, no trophies, no glory, just
> a good time.
>
> Katie
> usually much more pleasant than this.
>
>
>
>
>
> Alan <mpsasoccer19@...> wrote:
> id just like to let you know that ive been apart of
> this group for a while, and i havent been able to
> attend a lot of these games either because i have to
> play my own league games or i had another event to
> attend. as of now im in college and im playing
> soccer
> there as well. i just happen to be in town and now
> one would tell me where the game was being played at
> until hours after it was played and if someone did
> say
> i couldnt reach my email, and im sorry. there wasnt
> a
> need to answer like that william
>
> --- William Gerdes <wegerdes@...> wrote:
>
> > hey folks, sorry about my multiply poor judgement
> in
> > starting what
> > has potential to be a list gobbling flame war. i
> > didn't mean to be
> > rude. i just was frustrated by the failure to
> read
> > and by the
> > complaints from someone who hasn't bothered to
> > organize any games. i
> > hope i didn't hurt anyone's feelings nor turn
> anyone
> > off from playing
> > soccer.
> >
> > this is an informal listserv. it was started to
> > help people meet
> > each other and organize games, but it relies on
> your
> > initiative to do
> > so.
> >
> > six of us met at candler park today and played for
> > an exhausting
> > almost two hours. the weather was great, if hot.
> > and if i can speak
> > for the others, we lacked both soccer skill and
> > physical
> > conditioning. but it was a lot of fun. thank you
> > russ, greg, katie,
> > zenzi, and jeff for coming on out. thank you also
> > to designated
> > cheerperson lisa. afterwards we went to fellini's
> > for pizza.
> > hopefully we'll see a couple more new folks the
> next
> > time we do this.
> >
> > yours,
> > william
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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