Well played.

--- In sixtiesandseventiessoccer@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Young"
<petery@c...> wrote:
> Having said that, I've now reread my response to Kathy, and sent a
note of apology for what I recognise was bad manners directly to
her. I stand by the substance of what I said, but not its tone.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Peter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: golden_rams_aust
> To: sixtiesandseventiessoccer@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 3:56 AM
> Subject: [Sixties and Seventies Soccer] Re: 1966 WC Team Trivia
>
>
> In the words of Monty Python's Four Yorkshiremen - "We used to
live
> in a shoebox in middle of road..."
>
> Whilst this group celebrates nostalgia, coming across as having a
> chip on one's shoulder doesn't serve any purpose.
>
> And while I can work blue as much as the next guy, I'd prefer we
> didn't do it within this group.
>
> "....and when we got home, our mum and dad would thrash us to
death
> with a broken bottle and dance on our grave singing hallelujah.
And
> you try and tell the young people today that. And they won't
believe
> you...."
>
>
> --- In sixtiesandseventiessoccer@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Young"
> <petery@c...> wrote:
> > This really reveals profound ignorance. Limited training? The
> England team of 1966 went into weeks of isolated training and
were
> one of the fittest teams ever assembled; all you have to do is
watch
> the final to see that.. Fry-ups and shenanigans under Alf
Ramsey?.
> You;ve got to be fucking joking, to quote the great man from
another
> context. Nights out were a western movie under Alf's strict
> supervision. He told players that if they broke the rules they
were
> out of the squad. They were not cosseted , of course, but I
suggest
> you read any of the numerous books about the World Cup 1966
victory;
> they all describe the extensive preparations the England team
> undertook. We folks alive in 1966 did not come from the dark
ages;
> we worked hard for what we achieved, and the England team are no
> exception.. By the way, isn;'t it a bit obvious that today;s
players
> have not achieved what the 1966 crop did? We all koow there has
been
> no second World Cup victory.
> >
> > It is, however, interesting that the players of 1966 were born
and
> grew up in an England deprived of many comforts because of the
Second
> World War. No meat to speak of, a tiny bottle of ooncentrated
orange
> juice for the family every week, fried bread daubed with HP sauce
for
> breakfast, an egg per person pe week, that sort of thing. And it
> went on well past the war. I know; I was there. It doesn't seem
to
> have hurt them, does it?
> >
> > Peter Young
> > England Football Online
> > www.englandfootballonline.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kadidia Traore
> > To: sixtiesandseventiessoccer@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:27 AM
> > Subject: [Sixties and Seventies Soccer] 1966 WC Team Trivia
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am doing some research for a possible television program
> > comparing the 1966 England team and today's players. The
> > basic idea is that with all the cossetting, training,
technology,
> > media, diets and money, today's team hasn't achieved what the
> > 1966 team did. What was the footballer lifestyle like for
them?
> > I'm looking for anecdotal or statistical stories about the
1966
> > team and their training/lifestyle regimes, or (particularly)
lack
> > there of. Fry ups, nights out, limited training, anything
that
> > seems to stand out incomparrison to the game today. Any help
> > you could give me would be would be greatly appreciated.
> > Please let me know if you have ideas on good books,
> > columnists, etc.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Kathy
> >
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